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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 23 2009 12:02 am
From: "BGB / cr88192"

"Nobody" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2009.12.23.04.58.45.31000@nowhere.com...
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:05:54 -0700, BGB / cr88192 wrote:
>
>> FWIW, Quake 1 / 2 / 3 were in C.
>>
>> Doom 3, maybe C, but I haven't seen the source (the scripts though have
>> more
>> of an OO style, so possibly C++ may have been used in Doom 3...).
>
> id Tech 4 (the engine used for Doom 3 and Quake 4) uses C++.
>
> OOP is a natural fit for games (and other types of simulation).
>

yes, ok.

I would have figured as much from what I had seen of Doom 3, although
granted I have not seen any of their engine source.

recently, I have been messing with Quake 2 engine (various reasons, mostly
non-serious), and hacked on a number of features, most recently:
expanding the map size (now ~98304 inches, or 8192 ft, or 1.55 mi);
adding "drivable vehicles" (technically, they are neither drivable nor
vehicles, but nevermind this...).

prior additions:
support for shadering;
real-time stencil lighting/shadows;
rigid-body physics;
...

nevermind that it still mostly looks and behaves like Q2 at present, and
infact a lot of content was re-added from Q1 as well, ...

>> Java is one of those languages:
>> one hears about it enough, but where is the code?...
>
> Java's strongest constituency is bespoke enterprise software, which
> typically never leaves the organisation for which it was developed.
>
> You may as well ask where all the COBOL or RPG-III code is.
>

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 23 2009 3:05 am
From: "bartc"

"Ian Collins" <ian-news@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7pdtsdFe9eU1@mid.individual.net...
> Nobody wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:14:33 -0900, jamm wrote:
>>
>>> Isn't it OOP that we should really be blaming?
>>
>> I think that OOP is a reasonable enough concept. It isn't a silver
>> bullet,
>> but nothing ever is.
>>
>> IMHO, C++'s faults can be squarely blamed upon trying to extend C from
>> a low-level systems language into a high-level applications language
>> *without letting go of any of C's low-level features*.
>>
>> Without getting into the actual merits of Java, the idea of producing a
>> "C++ lite" which sacrificed some of the capability and performance in
>> favour of simplicity was an eminently sensible idea.
>
> Until they started adding some of the complexities back in!

I thought I'd give Java a try once. I downloaded 28MB' worth of zips (as 20
x 1.44MB files; this might have been with zmodem, and probably at
14.4Kbaud).

After unscrambling that lot, I found I couldn't do anything without the
documentation. But that was another 20MB to download. I decided to give it a
miss...

--
Bartc

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 23 2009 9:14 am
From: "io_x"

"Stefan Ram" <ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:c++-20091222141336@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de...

i don't like much german programmers (-Herbert if he is german)
you have wrong, C++ is a great language

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TOPIC: using libjpeg.a : "Output file write error"
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 23 2009 4:16 am
From: JR

Hi all,

I'm experiencing a problem using the libjpeg.a (version 7.0) when i
execute a small application of mine that converts a bpm file into jpg
format.
when writing the jpg output to file, the libjpeg complains:

"Output file write error --- out of disk space?"

OK.
1.) yes i have enough disk space left.
2.) my platform is CYGWIN_NT-5.1
3.) inside the libjpeg, i traced the error to the function jdatadst.c,
this is the code fragment that causes the trouble:

/* Write any data remaining in the buffer */
if (datacount > 0) {
if (JFWRITE(dest->outfile, dest->buffer, datacount) != datacount)
{
printf("location 2\n"); fflush(stdout);
ERREXIT(cinfo, JERR_FILE_WRITE);
}
}
4.) the code fragment that calls 3.) looks as follows:
for (y=0; y<height; ++y) {
*rp = (str + y*x);
jpeg_write_scanlines( &cinfo, rp, 1 );
}
with x being the size of a row.

Did anybody experience (and pro'ly solve) this problem before?
TIA,

Jorg.

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 23 2009 4:40 am
From: Ben Bacarisse

JR <j_s_s_p@yahoo.com> writes:

> I'm experiencing a problem using the libjpeg.a (version 7.0) when i
> execute a small application of mine that converts a bpm file into jpg
> format.
> when writing the jpg output to file, the libjpeg complains:
>
> "Output file write error --- out of disk space?"
<snip>
> /* Write any data remaining in the buffer */
> if (datacount > 0) {
> if (JFWRITE(dest->outfile, dest->buffer, datacount) != datacount)
> {
> printf("location 2\n"); fflush(stdout);
> ERREXIT(cinfo, JERR_FILE_WRITE);
> }
> }
<snip>
> Did anybody experience (and pro'ly solve) this problem before?

Did you open the output stream in binary mode? It is possible that
whatever code lies behind JFWRITE might be counting bytes output
rather than elements written (as C's fwrite is obliged to do) and it
is therefore getting confused by a \n to \r\n translation.

Not likely, I admit, but it seems worth checking that first off.

--
Ben.

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 23 2009 5:03 am
From: Barry Schwarz

On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 04:16:35 -0800 (PST), JR <j_s_s_p@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I'm experiencing a problem using the libjpeg.a (version 7.0) when i
>execute a small application of mine that converts a bpm file into jpg
>format.
>when writing the jpg output to file, the libjpeg complains:
>
>"Output file write error --- out of disk space?"
>
>OK.
>1.) yes i have enough disk space left.
>2.) my platform is CYGWIN_NT-5.1
>3.) inside the libjpeg, i traced the error to the function jdatadst.c,
>this is the code fragment that causes the trouble:
>
> /* Write any data remaining in the buffer */
> if (datacount > 0) {
> if (JFWRITE(dest->outfile, dest->buffer, datacount) != datacount)
>{
> printf("location 2\n"); fflush(stdout);
> ERREXIT(cinfo, JERR_FILE_WRITE);
> }
> }

If JFWRITE calls fwrite and returns its return value, there are other
reasons than lack of disk space which can cause this error message.
That is the significance of the "?" at the end of the error message.

Are you certain the output file was opened successfully? Do you have
permission to write to the file? Could another task have the file
locked? Have you checked your disk for bad sectors?

Considerations raised by a brief google search: Have you successfully
used this version libjpeg before? Are you sure you built it correctly
after downloading it? Did you recently convert from version 6.2?

You might want to perform a more thorough review of google hits.

--
Remove del for email

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 23 2009 5:27 am
From: JR

> Are you certain the output file was opened successfully?

yes, certainly checked it before

> Do you have
> permission to write to the file?  

yes

> Could another task have the file
> locked?

no

> Have you checked your disk for bad sectors?

:-) by now, yes. it is OK

>
> Considerations raised by a brief google search: Have you successfully
> used this version libjpeg before?

no, i used 6.2 and upgraded after i experienced the same problem w/
6.2

> Are you sure you built it correctly
> after downloading it?  

yes! (-> "make test")

thank you for the suggestions anyway.

as suggested by Ben, i will now go into jfwrite and implement some
checks and output there.

Jorg

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 23 2009 6:22 am
From: jacob navia

JR a écrit :
> Hi all,
>
> I'm experiencing a problem using the libjpeg.a (version 7.0) when i
> execute a small application of mine that converts a bpm file into jpg
> format.
> when writing the jpg output to file, the libjpeg complains:
>
> "Output file write error --- out of disk space?"
>
> OK.
> 1.) yes i have enough disk space left.
> 2.) my platform is CYGWIN_NT-5.1
> 3.) inside the libjpeg, i traced the error to the function jdatadst.c,
> this is the code fragment that causes the trouble:
>
> /* Write any data remaining in the buffer */
> if (datacount > 0) {
> if (JFWRITE(dest->outfile, dest->buffer, datacount) != datacount)
> {
> printf("location 2\n"); fflush(stdout);
> ERREXIT(cinfo, JERR_FILE_WRITE);
> }
> }
> 4.) the code fragment that calls 3.) looks as follows:
> for (y=0; y<height; ++y) {
> *rp = (str + y*x);
> jpeg_write_scanlines( &cinfo, rp, 1 );
> }
> with x being the size of a row.
>
>
> Did anybody experience (and pro'ly solve) this problem before?
> TIA,
>
> Jorg.

could be that your file is bigger than 2gigs and that your
fwrite is 32 bits?

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 23 2009 6:41 am
From: Barry Schwarz

On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 05:27:55 -0800 (PST), JR <j_s_s_p@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>> Are you certain the output file was opened successfully?
>
>yes, certainly checked it before
>
>> Do you have
>> permission to write to the file?  
>
>yes
>
>> Could another task have the file
>> locked?
>
>no
>
>> Have you checked your disk for bad sectors?
>
>:-) by now, yes. it is OK
>
>>
>> Considerations raised by a brief google search: Have you successfully
>> used this version libjpeg before?
>
>no, i used 6.2 and upgraded after i experienced the same problem w/
>6.2

The first couple of google hits are about problems converting from 6.2
to 7.0.

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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 23 2009 5:07 am
From: gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack)

In article <2a355def-4f02-4222-8d35-5680ac53747e@j9g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
spinoza1111 <spinoza1111@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
(Some schmuck wrote)
>> It is also my experience that some people can /teach/ a subject, and
>> quite badly, without ever having taken the trouble to learn that
>> subject. (I had such a teacher on my C course. For example, I had not
>> only to explain but actually to demonstrate to her that the
>> controlling condition on a loop is tested only once per iteration,
>> not after every single statement.)
>
>I find it hard to believe that she believed any such thing. Based on
>my own experience with disruptive students with learning and
>behavioral disorders, as well as your behavior here, I think you wrote
>down something she said in class and thereafter interpreted it
>literally, because you do so here and you are a Christian
>Fundamentalist, where such folks set great store by literal
>hermeneutics.

You certainly got that right. Given that the whole game in CLC (and,
unfortunately, in Usenet as a whole, but nowhere else [IME] as severe
and unforgiving as in CLC) is to stare at something, that someone else
wrote, until you can come up with an absurd interpretation. Then you
post a reply that assumes that that interpretation is the only possible
one.

== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 23 2009 5:18 am
From: Richard

gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) writes:

> In article <2a355def-4f02-4222-8d35-5680ac53747e@j9g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
> spinoza1111 <spinoza1111@yahoo.com> wrote:
> ...
> (Some schmuck wrote)
>>> It is also my experience that some people can /teach/ a subject, and
>>> quite badly, without ever having taken the trouble to learn that
>>> subject. (I had such a teacher on my C course. For example, I had not
>>> only to explain but actually to demonstrate to her that the
>>> controlling condition on a loop is tested only once per iteration,
>>> not after every single statement.)
>>
>>I find it hard to believe that she believed any such thing. Based on
>>my own experience with disruptive students with learning and
>>behavioral disorders, as well as your behavior here, I think you wrote
>>down something she said in class and thereafter interpreted it
>>literally, because you do so here and you are a Christian
>>Fundamentalist, where such folks set great store by literal
>>hermeneutics.
>
> You certainly got that right. Given that the whole game in CLC (and,
> unfortunately, in Usenet as a whole, but nowhere else [IME] as severe
> and unforgiving as in CLC) is to stare at something, that someone else
> wrote, until you can come up with an absurd interpretation. Then you
> post a reply that assumes that that interpretation is the only possible
> one.
>

And like Heathfield's fantasy land stories about how he reformatted a
hard drive because of UB back in 89, most stories are conjured up to
provide a reason for their anal retentiveness and lack of real life
awareness. But this years prize for most exagerrated tall tales that
refer to dinosaur machines must go to Flash Gordon. It seems he never
programmed a machine what was not missing a bit, alternate endian or had
no stack.

--
"Avoid hyperbole at all costs, its the most destructive argument on
the planet" - Mark McIntyre in comp.lang.c

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 23 2009 5:36 am
From: spinoza1111

On Dec 23, 9:07 pm, gaze...@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack)
wrote:
> In article <2a355def-4f02-4222-8d35-5680ac537...@j9g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,spinoza1111 <spinoza1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> ...
> (Some schmuck wrote)
>
> >> It is also my experience that some people can /teach/ a subject, and
> >> quite badly, without ever having taken the trouble to learn that
> >> subject. (I had such a teacher on my C course. For example, I had not
> >> only to explain but actually to demonstrate to her that the
> >> controlling condition on a loop is tested only once per iteration,
> >> not after every single statement.)
>
> >I find it hard to believe that she believed any such thing. Based on
> >my own experience with disruptive students with learning and
> >behavioral disorders, as well as your behavior here, I think you wrote
> >down something she said in class and thereafter interpreted it
> >literally, because you do so here and you are a Christian
> >Fundamentalist, where such folks set great store by literal
> >hermeneutics.
>
> You certainly got that right.  Given that the whole game in CLC (and,
> unfortunately, in Usenet as a whole, but nowhere else [IME] as severe
> and unforgiving as in CLC) is to stare at something, that someone else
> wrote, until you can come up with an absurd interpretation.  Then you
> post a reply that assumes that that interpretation is the only possible
> one.

We can change this, Kenny. The new game starts now. And the rules are
found in The Psychology of Computer Programming: no personal attacks,
just problem solving, active tolerance of alternate points of view,
and the absolute right of personal verbal self-defense.

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 23 2009 5:42 am
From: spinoza1111

On Dec 23, 9:18 pm, Richard <rgrd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> gaze...@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) writes:
> > In article <2a355def-4f02-4222-8d35-5680ac537...@j9g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
> >spinoza1111 <spinoza1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > ...
> > (Some schmuck wrote)
> >>> It is also my experience that some people can /teach/ a subject, and
> >>> quite badly, without ever having taken the trouble to learn that
> >>> subject. (I had such a teacher on my C course. For example, I had not
> >>> only to explain but actually to demonstrate to her that the
> >>> controlling condition on a loop is tested only once per iteration,
> >>> not after every single statement.)
>
> >>I find it hard to believe that she believed any such thing. Based on
> >>my own experience with disruptive students with learning and
> >>behavioral disorders, as well as your behavior here, I think you wrote
> >>down something she said in class and thereafter interpreted it
> >>literally, because you do so here and you are a Christian
> >>Fundamentalist, where such folks set great store by literal
> >>hermeneutics.
>
> > You certainly got that right.  Given that the whole game in CLC (and,
> > unfortunately, in Usenet as a whole, but nowhere else [IME] as severe
> > and unforgiving as in CLC) is to stare at something, that someone else
> > wrote, until you can come up with an absurd interpretation.  Then you
> > post a reply that assumes that that interpretation is the only possible
> > one.
>
> And like Heathfield's fantasy land stories about how he reformatted a
> hard drive because of UB back in 89, most stories are conjured up to
> provide a reason for their anal retentiveness and lack of real life
> awareness. But this years prize for most exagerrated tall tales that
> refer to dinosaur machines must go to Flash Gordon. It seems he never
> programmed a machine what was not missing a bit, alternate endian or had
> no stack.

My current favorite is Heathfield's claim that his teacher said that
for loop exit is tested before each statement in the for loop. It is
not impossible, depending on what low level technical Borstals he may
have been sent to as a ward of the state (that's irony not a claim)
but it's likelier that he deliberately misinterpreted her when she
said (correctly), "children, the statement after the for loop is
executed while the for loop condition is true". She was correct
because that is the syntax of the for loop:

forLoop := "for" "(" [ initialization ] ";" condition
";" [ modification ] ")"
statement

since "statement" can be a simple or compound "statement".

Richard may have misheard her and jumped all over the poor lady.
>
> --
> "Avoid hyperbole at all costs, its the most destructive argument on
> the planet" - Mark McIntyre in comp.lang.c

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 23 2009 7:10 am
From: Richard

spinoza1111 <spinoza1111@yahoo.com> writes:

> On Dec 23, 9:18 pm, Richard <rgrd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> gaze...@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) writes:
>> > In article <2a355def-4f02-4222-8d35-5680ac537...@j9g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
>> >spinoza1111 <spinoza1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > ...
>> > (Some schmuck wrote)
>> >>> It is also my experience that some people can /teach/ a subject, and
>> >>> quite badly, without ever having taken the trouble to learn that
>> >>> subject. (I had such a teacher on my C course. For example, I had not
>> >>> only to explain but actually to demonstrate to her that the
>> >>> controlling condition on a loop is tested only once per iteration,
>> >>> not after every single statement.)
>>
>> >>I find it hard to believe that she believed any such thing. Based on
>> >>my own experience with disruptive students with learning and
>> >>behavioral disorders, as well as your behavior here, I think you wrote
>> >>down something she said in class and thereafter interpreted it
>> >>literally, because you do so here and you are a Christian
>> >>Fundamentalist, where such folks set great store by literal
>> >>hermeneutics.
>>
>> > You certainly got that right.  Given that the whole game in CLC (and,
>> > unfortunately, in Usenet as a whole, but nowhere else [IME] as severe
>> > and unforgiving as in CLC) is to stare at something, that someone else
>> > wrote, until you can come up with an absurd interpretation.  Then you
>> > post a reply that assumes that that interpretation is the only possible
>> > one.
>>
>> And like Heathfield's fantasy land stories about how he reformatted a
>> hard drive because of UB back in 89, most stories are conjured up to
>> provide a reason for their anal retentiveness and lack of real life
>> awareness. But this years prize for most exagerrated tall tales that
>> refer to dinosaur machines must go to Flash Gordon. It seems he never
>> programmed a machine what was not missing a bit, alternate endian or had
>> no stack.
>
> My current favorite is Heathfield's claim that his teacher said that
> for loop exit is tested before each statement in the for loop. It is
> not impossible, depending on what low level technical Borstals he may
> have been sent to as a ward of the state (that's irony not a claim)
> but it's likelier that he deliberately misinterpreted her when she

It IS impossible. Absolutely 100% impossible.

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 23 2009 8:47 am
From: Argonaut

On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 05:36:28 -0800 (PST), spinoza1111
<spinoza1111@yahoo.com> wrote:

>We can change this, Kenny. The new game starts now. And the rules are
>found in The Psychology of Computer Programming: no personal attacks,
>just problem solving, active tolerance of alternate points of view,
>and the absolute right of personal verbal self-defense.

Great! The all-new, touchy, feely, sensitive Spinoza!

Which lasted 6 minutes, till you attacked Heathfield:

On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 05:42:56 -0800 (PST), spinoza1111
<spinoza1111@yahoo.com> wrote:
>My current favorite is Heathfield's claim that his teacher said that
>for loop exit is tested before each statement in the for loop. It is
>not impossible, depending on what low level technical Borstals he may
>have been sent to as a ward of the state (that's irony not a claim)
>but it's likelier that he deliberately misinterpreted her when she

Where you presume you know facts of his childhood better than he does.
In which case you're a seriously obsessed stalker, or psychic.

Meanwhile,
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:16:21 -0600 (CST), spinoza1111
<spinoza1111@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Therefore, to save SEEBACH work, and to avoid further
>confusion as a result of a flame war I will not post anything further
>at this thread.

-- followed up in that thread by at least four of your trademark
apoplectic tirades.

And on that topic, I note that while you over and over accuse Seebach
of leading some kind of vendetta against Schildt, searching the
newsgroup that he set up and controls, as moderator,
(comp.lang.c.moderated, where you recently shat in your own pants)
shows that until you turned up , Schildt had not been mentioned once
in the last seven years. Now that's a real sneaky way to run a
vendetta. What an evil mastermind.

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 23 2009 9:23 am
From: Richard

Argonaut <Argo@naut.com> writes:

> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 05:36:28 -0800 (PST), spinoza1111
> <spinoza1111@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>We can change this, Kenny. The new game starts now. And the rules are
>>found in The Psychology of Computer Programming: no personal attacks,
>>just problem solving, active tolerance of alternate points of view,
>>and the absolute right of personal verbal self-defense.
>
> Great! The all-new, touchy, feely, sensitive Spinoza!
>
> Which lasted 6 minutes, till you attacked Heathfield:
>
> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 05:42:56 -0800 (PST), spinoza1111
> <spinoza1111@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>My current favorite is Heathfield's claim that his teacher said that
>>for loop exit is tested before each statement in the for loop. It is
>>not impossible, depending on what low level technical Borstals he may
>>have been sent to as a ward of the state (that's irony not a claim)
>>but it's likelier that he deliberately misinterpreted her when she
>
> Where you presume you know facts of his childhood better than he does.
> In which case you're a seriously obsessed stalker, or psychic.

So you believe that Heathfield's C teacher thought the condition was
tested for each and ever inner statement? No you don't.

>
> Meanwhile,
> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:16:21 -0600 (CST), spinoza1111
> <spinoza1111@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Therefore, to save SEEBACH work, and to avoid further
>>confusion as a result of a flame war I will not post anything further
>>at this thread.
>
> -- followed up in that thread by at least four of your trademark
> apoplectic tirades.
>
> And on that topic, I note that while you over and over accuse Seebach
> of leading some kind of vendetta against Schildt, searching the
> newsgroup that he set up and controls, as moderator,
> (comp.lang.c.moderated, where you recently shat in your own pants)
> shows that until you turned up , Schildt had not been mentioned once
> in the last seven years. Now that's a real sneaky way to run a
> vendetta. What an evil mastermind.
>

Nothing was mentioned there which is why he come slinking into here.

--
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the planet" - Mark McIntyre in comp.lang.c

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 23 2009 9:12 am
From: "io_x"

Buon Natale
Merry Christmas to all!

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 23 2009 9:24 am
From: Tom St Denis

On Dec 23, 12:12 pm, "io_x" <a...@b.c.invalid> wrote:
> Buon Natale
> Merry Christmas to all!

You're calendar is off by a day. Even if you are on the other side of
the date line it'd be midnight on Christmas eve.

Also, this is off topic for CLC. You meant to say

printf("Happy Solstice!\n");

Tom

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