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* Machining a ball - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/740dc255878b677f?hl=en
* Yet another chain saw question - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/a889c4ddae796f05?hl=en
* weight & quality Emcoturn - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/fdce7df5ba954992?hl=en
* Dial caliper - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/fd194f1f8a4ee88e?hl=en
* Obama Takes A Break From Bangin Joe788's Momma... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/9f102a8600e4bccf?hl=en
* Finding engineering data on shock absorbers - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/73dc0d61e8628f3d?hl=en
* Weird screws, no idea how to remove - 4 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/f0875be6a428e7b8?hl=en
* Alternative Palin Event Sold Out >>OR<< If all you're looking for is
Communists, you can see them from the White House front porch. - 2 messages, 2
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/97ce1317191b4746?hl=en
* Oh Look...They Have Parents..Who Would Have Guessed? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/91f7e2c68f4a7e79?hl=en
* Some more lathe progress (some pictures and some without) - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/7424ca2b09ad739c?hl=en
* What's that sound? That's the sound of Obama kicking Republican Ass... - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/008d9fb473c4ef9b?hl=en
* OT - The Lancet's Vaccine Retraction -- A medical journal's role in the
autism scare - 4 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/f7da32a69e030efa?hl=en
* A test for young people - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/e250300c60eaaa8e?hl=en
* OT - The Public-Union Ascendancy -- Government union members now outnumber
private for the first time - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/3fedebb8f7261463?hl=en
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TOPIC: Machining a ball
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/740dc255878b677f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 2 2010 11:25 pm
From: Winston
On 2/2/2010 10:59 PM, Don Foreman wrote:
> I have reported examples of my work with this technique to RCM by
> reference to my website. I've since removed in favor of more current
> activities but will rehost if anyone is interested.
Yes, please.
--Winston
--
Support the blind and deaf. Hire a building contractor today!
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TOPIC: Yet another chain saw question
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/a889c4ddae796f05?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 1:08 am
From: #9 <#9@#10.invalid>
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 23:30:13 -0800, Steve B wrote:
>
> "#9" <#9@#10.invalid> wrote in message
> news:hk9h6f$fjn$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:02:53 -0800, Steve B wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "#9" <#9@#10.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:hk841q$pkb$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:06:15 -0800, Steve B wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a 16" bar on my Husky 345. Can I just change that to an 18" or
>>>>> 20"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Where can I check that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> Hell, put a 48" bar and chain on it and be done with it. After all that
>>>> 32cc engine could power a crop duster plane.
>>>
>>> Thank you for helping.
>>
>> No problem. I can tell you need all the help you can get.
>> Of course if you weren't so cheap you would have bought the right tool for
>> the job in the first place. A bigger bar and chain isn't going to
>> turbocharge that piss ant motor.
>>
>> Do you really believe the manufacturer is too stupid to match the
>> bar/chian to the proper motor or are engineers too dumb to do the math?
>>
>> How about an answer bunkie? Or is it just going to be more stupid
>> questions?
>
> I dunno. I think you have more stupid answers than I have stupid questions,
> so I guess I'll just let it go at that.
>
> Steve
Your too lazy to just look it up.
Or you really are a novice with a computer also.
Ever hear of Google, lazy ass.
So what's the next question. How to blow your nose?
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 3:04 am
From: cncmillgil
On Feb 2, 2:17 am, "Karl Townsend" <karltownsend....@embarqmail.com>
wrote:
> >I have a 16" bar on my Husky 345. Can I just change that to an 18" or 20"?
>
> > Where can I check that?
>
> As others have said, you got to watch not having enough power. That said,
> I've routinely went up two or four inches in bar length. A roller nose helps
> reduce friction - your enemy. Also buy TOP QUALTY chain. The difference is,
> they stay sharp much longer. A slightly dull chain makes saw dust not chips.
> I always buy three with each bar. Then the bar and three chains wear out at
> the same time. Plus you can cut wood for a long time without going back home
> to sharpen chain.
>
> Maybe too advance a topic, but you can learn to sharpen a chain so its far
> better than new. I was lucky enough to know a fella that cut wood for a
> living twenty years ago. He showed me all his tricks and has saved me
> hundreds of hours of labor.
>
> Karl
How bout chain saw sharpening tricks?
Anybody ever hear of a carbide tipped chain?
Taking down (fileing) the back limiter tooth?
Not to much! .015-.-025? lower than top of tooth?
Whats the best way to dull a chain?
Hit the ground,? Keep a nice 5/32 fine cut rat tail file with you for
touchup
saw trunks with little dirt & stones?
Hit a nail or fence wire burried in the tree from 30yrs ago?
I'm thinking to bring my cordless dremel with a some small grinding
stones & a piece of carborandum (de glaze grinding stone)
Whats quicker? change chain or touch up?
Some saws are a bitch to change the chain. I hate when they get
tangled!
How to keep those vapor locked McCullough's going?
Dont shut'em off- they must boil the fuel in the hose whilst sitting
after use - let'em cool & start right up- Grrrrrr
Anyone ever see a 2 man chain saw?
BB's #65
Let not your perception
Be influenced by self-deception
Point of view
Is all about YOU
--
©¿©
~gil~
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 4:36 am
From: Pete Keillor
On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:28:50 -0800, "Steve B"
<deserttraver@fishmail.net> wrote:
>
>
> This is risky. I've been logging in Michigan's U.P. for a lot of years.
>>> Just cut your notch in the front, cut your center cut an inch or so
>>> above
>>> the middle of the notch that is in front. Looking up at the tree from
>>> the base, you can get a good idea where the lean and the weight is, and
>>> tell pretty much which way it's going to go. If you aren't sure where
>>> it's going to drop, it's best to get a rope on it maybe 10 or 12 feet up
>>> and use a come along and a pulley to put some tension on the tree. If you
>>> are starting your final cut towards the hinge and the tree seems to be
>>> leaning back towards the saw it's a good time to drive in a plastic wedge
>>> behind the saw blade. I don't know if this post makes any sense or not,
>>> I'm not the best at describing things.
>>
>> The U.P. is where I do trail maintenance. I don't have to worry about
>> any techniques for cutting down trees though, they are already down.
>>
>> Wayne D.
>
>We bought the saw because we hired a man for $275 to cut down a tree, and he
>never showed up. We bought the saw for around $235, IIRC. We had the tree
>notched, and were cutting the final cut when a breeze blew up out of
>nowhere. We were scrambling to get a BIG yellow ratchet tie on it before
>the wind took it the other way. We were in time, and the tree dropped
>perfectly, impressing my wife, which is hard to do. She thought for sure it
>was going the other way and wiping out the swing set and shade canopy.
>
>Steve
>
In Michigan, I had eight trees taken out at once for $200 ea. I
thought it was reasonable. Then I asked about the 110' tall
cottonwood 3'+ dia. 50' from the house. The quote was $3700. It was
still there when we sold the place, but that thing kept me up nights.
Too many of those monsters went down from time to time in the woods
out back. Now, I don't have a tree taller than the house any where
near. Hallelujah, at least until summer.
Pete Keillor
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TOPIC: weight & quality Emcoturn
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/fdce7df5ba954992?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 3:13 am
From: "Karl Townsend"
> If you don't already own the condo...
>
> Look for one with a garage and a "Bonus Room" on the ground floor,
> with a nice concrete slab floor. It's a popular floorplan around Los
> Angeles area, and the Bonus Room can easily be converted to a Home
> Shop.
Don't own it yet. Very likely will soon. I think price of housing may start
to recover in a year and I'll buy then. I do know the place will be in 'cane
country - no first floor enclosures. Can't afford the houses there unless I
win the lottery. So, it will be your basic two bedroom unit on second floor.
As a plus, they are concrete structures. I should be able to fill a room
with my toys.
Karl
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TOPIC: Dial caliper
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/fd194f1f8a4ee88e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 3:53 am
From: "Wild_Bill"
I don't remember if the cheap model from China had anti-backlash, or not. I
had experience working with small mechanical assemblies, so the challenge
didn't seem impossible, but since I hadn't taken a dial caliper apart
before, I didn't know what I was doing.
Take an old dial indicator apart, and if that goes well, try fixing the
caliper.
If it's an expensive caliper, maybe send it out for repair.
Long Island Indicator Repair has been recommended here in RCM in the past,
for repair parts.. their repair flat rate for a 6" is $65, up to $125 for a
12" model.
--
WB
.........
metalworking projects
www.kwagmire.com/metal_proj.html
"Lewis Hartswick" <lhartswick@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:Jdadnel3AacMr_XWnZ2dnUVZ_jpi4p2d@earthlink.com...
> Wild_Bill wrote:
>> I did a reset the hard way a number of years ago, and can't remember the
>> details now, but it took more than a few tries.
>> I think I removed the stop at the end, and ran the entire dial assembly
>> off the scale, then put it back on to see where the pointer stopped when
>> closed.
>> I think I eventually removed the screws from the rack, and moved the rack
>> to get the desired position.
>> If I hadn't approached it as a challenge, it wouldn't have been worth the
>> trouble.
>>
>> It still works fine now, but I use a digital more frequently.
>>
>
> How in the world did you get the "anti-backlash" spring loaded
> gears back in correctly. That was the problem I had with the
> one from school I tried to fix. It's still setting on my desk
> a few years later. :-)
> ...lew...
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TOPIC: Obama Takes A Break From Bangin Joe788's Momma...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/9f102a8600e4bccf?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 4:03 am
From: Joe788
and finally gets something right!
Perhaps Obama will be known for something else other than "The
President Of Hittin That Ass":
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2009/02/what-the-stimul/
It's about fucking time this country did something about this long
standing problem! 8 Billion ain't shit but it's a start. No matter how
corrupt, no matter how over budget, no matter what...
It's about time, motherfuckers.
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TOPIC: Finding engineering data on shock absorbers
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/73dc0d61e8628f3d?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 4:28 am
From: Pete Keillor
On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 00:11:07 -0600, Don Foreman
<dforeman@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:02:44 -0600, Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Kinda oddball question, hoping that someone will know.
>>
>>I'm almost ready to re-hang my driveway gate - we've been surviving with
>>a roll of chicken wire for way too long - but before it goes on it needs
>>a shock absorber to keep it from breaking exactly the way it did before.
>>
>>(It's a scissors gate, about 120 pounds, 18 feet long and it pivots up
>>and down on one end. It's counterbalanced on springs, but when an
>>enthusiastic kid closes it the crash is a thing to behold -- and a thing
>>to break welds.)
>>
>>I don't want to cut and try a bazillion different things, and I'm an
>>engineer so I have the delusion that I can design things from first
>>principals.
>>
>>Is there any place I can find engineering data on vehicle shock
>>absorbers? Not "buy this here shock for that there truck, and get 'em
>>heavy duty if you want to put two cows in there", but real honest-to-gosh
>>tables with numbers and other useful things for folks who are blatantly
>>mis-applying a vehicle shock absorber.
>>
>>At the least I need things like stroke and mounting data, but something
>>that gives the damping rate of the thing would be uber-cool. In the
>>absence of damping rate a vehicle weight / shock chart would be useful,
>>but it'd be a distant second best.
>>
>>Stroke and mounting data are obvious (if I can match what's in my truck
>>I'll be quite happy), but if I had the force vs. velocity curves for a
>>number of different shocks then I'd know from the get-go if I'm in the
>>right ball park, and where to put my pivot points, and that sort of thing.
>
>Your 120-lb load is much lighter than any vehicle load, and your
>requirement is mearly to limit velocity rather than to critically damp
>a resonant mass-spring suspension.
>
>Find a small surplus hydraulic cylinder, make your pivot points
>compatible with the cylinder's throw, use an adjustable needle valve
>to achieve desired viscous damping factor.
Or a flow control valve (parallel needle and check) if you only need
damping when lowering.
Pete Keillor
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 7:19 am
From: DT
>>Find a small surplus hydraulic cylinder, make your pivot points
>>compatible with the cylinder's throw, use an adjustable needle valve
>>to achieve desired viscous damping factor.
>
>Or a flow control valve (parallel needle and check) if you only need
>damping when lowering.
>
And you may only want damping at the end, just before it closes. If you hook
the damper directly to the gate it will slow down the gate for its entire
motion, which will be frustrating. Or is that what you want, to be able
to just drop it and go? Perhaps mount the damper so that the gate contacts it
just before the end, and then it will damp the last foot or so of travel.
--
Dennis
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TOPIC: Weird screws, no idea how to remove
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/f0875be6a428e7b8?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 4:45 am
From: Jim Wilkins
On Feb 2, 10:06 pm, Jordan <jwprin...@otpusnet.com.au> wrote:
> ...
> I recently had the same problem. My cold chisel wasn't sharp enough, so
> I ground the end of some 5/16" HSS square stock to a sharp bevel, about
> 20 degrees. Then narrowed down the sharp edge from 5/16" to more like
> 1/8". This was my chisel, and with a small hammer I was able to get
> under the head with minimal damage to the aluminium label. ...
> Jordan
Let me add a little warning to that otherwise good idea. HSS stores up
a LOT of energy when it bends, and if it breaks it throws very sharp
fragments at high speed. I found that out by not cutting a deep enough
groove all the way around before breaking a short piece off with a
hammer.
jsw
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 5:40 am
From: Randy
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:01:00 -0600, Ignoramus14738
<ignoramus14738@NOSPAM.14738.invalid> wrote:
>Yep Jim and Dan, they just needed to be pried out, I thought that they
>were "screws" and tried to screw them out, to no avail. The speed and
>feed table was reinstalled, I am very happy. The effect is awesome,
>like makeup on a 40 year old girl.
>
>i
My answer to these, after I get them out is to tap the holes and
reinstall the plate with button head screws.
Thank You,
Randy
Remove 333 from email address to reply.
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 6:08 am
From: Ignoramus26563
On 2010-02-03, Randy <rbraun333@enter.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:01:00 -0600, Ignoramus14738
><ignoramus14738@NOSPAM.14738.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Yep Jim and Dan, they just needed to be pried out, I thought that they
>>were "screws" and tried to screw them out, to no avail. The speed and
>>feed table was reinstalled, I am very happy. The effect is awesome,
>>like makeup on a 40 year old girl.
>>
>>i
>
> My answer to these, after I get them out is to tap the holes and
> reinstall the plate with button head screws.
Well, the old table lasted 43 years. If the new table lasts 43 more
years, I will be replacing it at the age of 81, if Clausing still has
it that is. At that age I will have plenty of time to re-remove the
"screws". I probably will forget all about how to remove them, by
then.
i
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 6:08 am
From: "Joe AutoDrill"
> http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Smooth-Headed-Screw.jpg
Ran into these same or similar type screws on an ignition rebuild (Kasasaki
Super Sherpa motorcycle) this past year. Seems they use fasteners that
screw in and when thight, the head breaks off so that you can't get them
out. The only problem is I needed to get them out, eh?
Drilled them, but had to disassemble a whole lot of stuff to make room for a
small hand drill to get in there.
--
Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022
01.908.542.0244
Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com
Production Tapping: http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/
Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-N-Tap.com
VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill
V8013-R
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TOPIC: Alternative Palin Event Sold Out >>OR<< If all you're looking for is
Communists, you can see them from the White House front porch.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/97ce1317191b4746?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 4:47 am
From: John Husvar
In article <4b68b8ed$0$22802$ec3e2dad@unlimited.usenetmonster.com>,
Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-Everything@Talk-n-dog.com> wrote:
> On 2/2/2010 2:21 PM, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> > On Feb 2, 2:41 am, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om>
> > wrote:
> >> http://www.ksallink.com/?cmd=displaystory&story_id=11976&format=html
> >> "Alternative Palin Event Sold Out"
> >> [
> >> A gathering planned as an alternative to the Sarah Palin event this Friday
> >> night
> >> in Salina is sold out.
> >>
> >> Orgnizers say that all of the tickets to Reality Not Celebrity are sold.
> >> Featured speaker is George Pyle.
> >> ....
> >> A gathering planned as an alternative to the Sarah Palin event this Friday
> >> night
> >> in Salina is sold out.
> >>
> >> Orgnizers say that all of the tickets to Reality Not Celebrity are sold.
> >> Featured speaker is George Pyle.
> >> ....
> >> ]
> >
> > I wonder if he can see Russia from his house?
> >
> > TMT
>
>
> If all you're looking for is Communists, you can see them from the White
> House front porch.
Looking either direction.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 5:04 am
From: PresOdebacle
Cliff wrote:
> http://www.ksallink.com/?cmd=displaystory&story_id=11976&format=html
> "Alternative Palin Event Sold Out"
> [
> A gathering planned as an alternative to the Sarah Palin event this Friday night
> in Salina is sold out.
>
> Orgnizers say that all of the tickets to Reality Not Celebrity are sold.
> Featured speaker is George Pyle.
> ....
> A gathering planned as an alternative to the Sarah Palin event this Friday night
> in Salina is sold out.
>
> Orgnizers say that all of the tickets to Reality Not Celebrity are sold.
> Featured speaker is George Pyle.
> ....
> ]
is that Gomer's kid or Goober's?
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TOPIC: Oh Look...They Have Parents..Who Would Have Guessed?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 5:14 am
From: "jaf"
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>> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 19:37:46 -0600, Some KKKowardly KKKlown
>> KKKalled "Burled Frau" <achtung(AT)jawol.jah> drooled:
>>
>>
>>
>>>"Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_tools(AT)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:9ff68fc2-b81a-44ee-b6d3-b3b9c7c3ce34(AT)b10g2000vbh.googlegro
>>>ups.com...
>>>
>>>> Looks like our Bible thumping Baptist child trafficers have a
>>>> lot of explaining to do.
>>>
>>>Maybe the Baptists should have stayed home and let the devil
>>>worshipping libs beg 0bama to kill them quickly, after not
>>>helping them.
>>
>> Or, maybe the superstitious ignorant stupid asshole lying sacks
>> of shit shouldn't have lied, cheated and engaged in illegal
>> international baby smuggling in the name of the Lord, eh,
>> sparky?
>>
>> Or is that ever so complex ethical and moral concept just a tad
>> beyond the laughably limited cognitive scope of your desiccated
>> rat turd of a brain? Which part of "Thou shalt not...," is it
>> that so confuses you, KKKlown?
>>
>> --- Welcome to reality. Enjoy your visit. Slow thinkers keep
>> right. ------ Why are so many not smart enough to know they're
>> not smart enough?
>>
>> http://www.apa.org/journals/features/psp7761121.pdf © 1999 by
>> the American Psychological Association December 1999 Vol. 77,
>> No. 6, 1121-1134
>>
>> Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing
>> One's Own Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments
>>
>> Justin Kruger and David Dunning Department of Psychology
>> Cornell University
>>
>> ABSTRACT: ...the authors found that participants scoring in
>> the bottom quartile on tests of humor, grammar, and logic
>> grossly overestimated their test performance and ability.
>> Although their test scores put them in the 12th percentile,
>> they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd.
>
> The Right and the Left in America are the right and left
> wing of the same ugly, corrupt bird.
>
> They pretend to be enemies, but no matter which of them
> is in power, the same terrible things go on.
>
> And they suppress any real criticism and all real
> progressives.
>
> Land of the Free my ass.
>
>
> Sid
>
ZOMBIE!
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TOPIC: Some more lathe progress (some pictures and some without)
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/7424ca2b09ad739c?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 6:04 am
From: Ignoramus26563
1. I leveled it with a Starrett 98 level. Not completely perfectly,
but a good start.
2. Replaced speed and feed table.
OLD:
http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clausing-6913-Lathe/03-Cleanup/03-Cleanup-6367.jpg.html
NEW:
http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clausing-6913-Lathe/03-Cleanup/03-Cleanup-6371.jpg.html
3. Installed a VFD. I do not like the way I mounted it, I will have to
redo it. Maybe I can get a monitor arm if any are thrown away at my
work.
http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clausing-6913-Lathe/04-VFD-Installation/
I still have to wire it with the lathe's forward/reverse switch, but I
ran out of time last night.
i
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TOPIC: What's that sound? That's the sound of Obama kicking Republican Ass...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/008d9fb473c4ef9b?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 6:16 am
From: Lookout
On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 22:52:41 -0600, "Burled Frau" <achtung@jawol.jah>
wrote:
>
>
>"Lookout" <mrLookout@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:e5phm55ng64phsuimj95i0omesm60egmhd@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 19:06:03 -0600, "Burled Frau" <achtung@jawol.jah>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Kasim Sulton" <Utopia@bass.gov> wrote in message
>>>news:4b68a2c5$0$21703$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>>> Lookout wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sure. All you chicken shit punks tell the other guy to come to your
>>>>> house.
>>>>> I told you I'd meet you in Birmingham on neutral ground and you ran
>>>>> like hell for your front you. You're a chicken shit punk ass 3rd grade
>>>>> little whiney-assed pissant who needs mama to pull his as out of
>>>>> fights in your front yard.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now if you want to meet in Birmingham...name the date and place.
>>>>
>>>> Nobody WANTS to see you... PERIOD!
>>>>
>>>> Nothing there in that fictional place you call "Birmingham."
>>>> Notice how you forgot what "Birmingham" you are talking about, and where
>>>> it is located?
>>>> There is one in Alabama, Michigan, England,
>>>>
>>>> Don't you get it, yet?
>>>>
>>>> YOU and your Butt buddy "TMT" said that YOU would show up at MY house,
>>>> the
>>>> place with a real address, and take MY stuff away, against MY will!
>>>>
>>>> Oh! http://www.bbc.co.uk/birmingham/gay-pride/alice.shtml
>>>>
>>>> YOU FAGGOT!
>>>
>>>If I recall correctly, TMT was going to visit the Sunnyside address with
>>>his
>>>friends and his two mommies. I don't recall TMT saying anyone was going to
>>>Birmingham. TMT was going to pimp both his mommies until their asses
>>>brought
>>>in enough money to pay for the gas for the Subaru to make the trip. Based
>>>on
>>>the fatness and mirror breaking good looks of his mommies, it's just going
>>>to take a while. Not sure where his friends live, or which fat mommy they
>>>plan on sitting next to for the long ride, but if he's going to be passing
>>>through Birmingham, why don't you hold your breath and squeeze in. The
>>>more
>>>the merrier. Maybe he could swing by and pick up Curly and the Douchebag
>>>as
>>>well. You'll know them by the smell of their bald heads and large
>>>foreheads.
>>
>> I wasn't even in the group when tmt started that shit.
>> Shit..another dumbass to fuck with.
>
>TMT has a boyfriend already, so I don't think he was expecting to have sex
>with you. TMT just wanted some friends, not lovers, to try to take his guns
>away. I agree TMT is a dumbass though.
Yup..just like 3rd grade. You have to make up lies just to talk about
someone. Why do you lie so much?
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TOPIC: OT - The Lancet's Vaccine Retraction -- A medical journal's role in the
autism scare
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/f7da32a69e030efa?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 6:24 am
From: Joseph Gwinn
In short, vaccines do not cause autism. So, get your shots. And, more
to the point, make sure your kids get their shots.
The Wall Street Journal, 3 February 2010.
There is a news article on page A8 of the same issue:
"Lancet Retracts Study Tying Vaccine to Autism",
<http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870402280457504121243736442
0.html>
Access is gratis today.
Joe Gwinn
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 6:51 am
From: Pete Snell
Another good link, but slightly different topic.
<http://www.1023.org.uk/the-1023-overdose-event.php>
Pete
Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> In short, vaccines do not cause autism. So, get your shots. And, more
> to the point, make sure your kids get their shots.
--
Pete Snell
Department of Physics
Royal Military College
Kingston, Ontario,
Canada
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== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 7:18 am
From: "Existential Angst"
"Joseph Gwinn" <joegwinn@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:joegwinn-1638ED.09240203022010@news.giganews.com...
> In short, vaccines do not cause autism. So, get your shots. And, more
> to the point, make sure your kids get their shots.
Heh, I guess yer Wife don't work in a hospital..... hospital workers avoid
this stuff like the plague.
Good, honest Docs are caught between a rock and hard place -- how do you
tell yer patients that yer profession is fullashit (and thimerosal), and
still be able to make a living?
And I'm not even taking sides on the vaccine issue, really, altho I wouldn't
take them myself. In principle, a valid concept, in practice, very sloppy
chemistry.
The bigger point is, the world population is but a cageful of guinea pigs
for Big Med and Big Pharm... need I cite countless example after example
after example? Or the invention of disease just to sell drugs. Restless
Leg Syndrome, inyone?
So, need you take more than one guess at WHY Lancet printed a retraction?
Proly someone got fired for printing the original article to begin with.
>
>
> <http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870402280457504154411579195
> 2.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_AboveLEFTTop>
>
> The Wall Street Journal, 3 February 2010.
>
>
> There is a news article on page A8 of the same issue:
>
> "Lancet Retracts Study Tying Vaccine to Autism",
>
> <http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870402280457504121243736442
> 0.html>
>
> Access is gratis today.
Yeah, proly sponsored by the AMA....
--
EA
>
>
> Joe Gwinn
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 8:22 am
From: "William Wixon"
"Existential Angst" <UNfitcat@UNoptonline.net> wrote in message
news:4b6993dd$0$31285$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> "Joseph Gwinn" <joegwinn@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:joegwinn-1638ED.09240203022010@news.giganews.com...
>> In short, vaccines do not cause autism. So, get your shots. And, more
>> to the point, make sure your kids get their shots.
>
> Heh, I guess yer Wife don't work in a hospital..... hospital workers
> avoid this stuff like the plague.
>
> Good, honest Docs are caught between a rock and hard place -- how do you
> tell yer patients that yer profession is fullashit (and thimerosal), and
> still be able to make a living?
>
> And I'm not even taking sides on the vaccine issue, really, altho I
> wouldn't take them myself. In principle, a valid concept, in practice,
> very sloppy chemistry.
>
> The bigger point is, the world population is but a cageful of guinea pigs
> for Big Med and Big Pharm... need I cite countless example after example
> after example? Or the invention of disease just to sell drugs. Restless
> Leg Syndrome, inyone?
>
> So, need you take more than one guess at WHY Lancet printed a retraction?
> Proly someone got fired for printing the original article to begin with.
>
and agri-business w/ genetically modified products (animal/vegetable). a
massive open uncontrolled experiment. madness driven by greed.
b.w.
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TOPIC: A test for young people
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/e250300c60eaaa8e?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 6:25 am
From: Joe
On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 18:01:45 -0500, "Ed Huntress"
<huntres23@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>"Wes" <clutch@lycos.com> wrote in message
>news:DW1an.69610$tq1.11311@en-nntp-03.dc1.easynews.com...
>> "Ed Huntress" <huntres23@optonline.net> wrote:
[snip]
>>
>> I complained about the shortage to ConAgra, they sent a free coupon for a
>> dinner. I'll
>> just wait for new "larger portions" before I buy from them again.
>
>Squeeky Wheel Syndrome. My wife is good at that.
Trouble is, it seems to be their only response. My wife likes a
certain brand of flavored coffee creamer; a while ago they changed the
bottle to a stupid shape that fits poorly in the fridge, with a cap
that is less than functional. Somebody's idea of an "artistic"
approach, no doubt. She complained that the packaging was making the
product tough to use, and she got a coupon for - guess what. Still a
PITA, regardless of price. But it beats having to think through to
arrive at a solution.
Joe
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 7:21 am
From: "Ed Huntress"
"Joe" <see_real_one@sig.lin> wrote in message
news:lh1jm590f7a4ji85mcob0c4kn1r96mjnch@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 18:01:45 -0500, "Ed Huntress"
> <huntres23@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Wes" <clutch@lycos.com> wrote in message
>>news:DW1an.69610$tq1.11311@en-nntp-03.dc1.easynews.com...
>>> "Ed Huntress" <huntres23@optonline.net> wrote:
> [snip]
>>>
>>> I complained about the shortage to ConAgra, they sent a free coupon for
>>> a
>>> dinner. I'll
>>> just wait for new "larger portions" before I buy from them again.
>>
>>Squeeky Wheel Syndrome. My wife is good at that.
>
> Trouble is, it seems to be their only response. My wife likes a
> certain brand of flavored coffee creamer; a while ago they changed the
> bottle to a stupid shape that fits poorly in the fridge, with a cap
> that is less than functional. Somebody's idea of an "artistic"
> approach, no doubt. She complained that the packaging was making the
> product tough to use, and she got a coupon for - guess what. Still a
> PITA, regardless of price. But it beats having to think through to
> arrive at a solution.
>
> Joe
Packaging can be annoying. I'm currently ranting about Costco's "cube"
one-gallon milk bottle, which apparently saves shipping cost but which
dribbles like crazy. For a month or so they put an extra lip on the inside
of the spout, which stopped the dribble. But then they dropped it again. So
I complained. They said they were "sorry." If my wife had handled it, they
would have sent her a cow. <g>
--
Ed Huntress
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TOPIC: OT - The Public-Union Ascendancy -- Government union members now
outnumber private for the first time
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/3fedebb8f7261463?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 6:29 am
From: Joseph Gwinn
The title tells the story.
<http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870383700457501342406064946
4.html>
The Wall Street Journal, 3 February 2010.
Joe Gwinn
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