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TOPIC: Half nuts disengage by themselves
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 4 2010 8:02 am
From: John Martin

On Feb 4, 8:11 am, Ignoramus25542 <ignoramus25...@NOSPAM.
25542.invalid> wrote:
> The cleanup of the lathe is basically done all around, the VFD is
> wired the way I want and things are cookin'.
>
> Got something else going on...
>
> If I try threading, the half nuts would not stay engaged, they lose
> this engamenent in a second or so. If I hold the engagement lever,
> they they do stay engaged, but I feel the lever kind of bumping.
>
> What would be the typical cause of this.
>
> i

First things first. Have you ever cleaned them? I've seen half nuts
pack up with swarf and gummy oil so much that they would not engage
fully. A good cleaning may make them almost as good as new. Or not.

John Martin

== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 4 2010 8:06 am
From: Ignoramus25542

On 2010-02-04, Joseph Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> wrote:
> In article <DbGdnU40WNzuWvfWnZ2dnUVZ_hhi4p2d@giganews.com>,
> Ignoramus25542 <ignoramus25542@NOSPAM.25542.invalid> wrote:
>
>> The cleanup of the lathe is basically done all around, the VFD is
>> wired the way I want and things are cookin'.
>>
>> Got something else going on...
>>
>> If I try threading, the half nuts would not stay engaged, they lose
>> this engamenent in a second or so. If I hold the engagement lever,
>> they they do stay engaged, but I feel the lever kind of bumping.
>>
>> What would be the typical cause of this?
>
> Wear and/or maladjustment. How much backlash does the closed half-nut
> have? (This ordinarily does not matter unless one is making very
> accurate and long screw threads, but is used to gauge wear.)

Joe... Thanks... I called Clausing and talked to Tito. He told me to
first clean the leadscrew very well and check the wear on slots of the
round slotted circle that closes half nuts.

This leadscrew proved exceptionally difficult to clean, in fact, I may
just take it off and use a powerwasher or take it to a hot shower. I
spent a lot of time cleaning it and it is still not as clean as it
should be.

The half nuts are $100 from Clausing, so even if they are bad, it is
not the end of the world.

== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 4 2010 8:09 am
From: Ignoramus25542

On 2010-02-04, Ed Huntress <huntres23@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9D155D4D3FC2lloydspmindspringcom@216.168.3.70...
>> Joseph Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> fired this volley in news:joegwinn-
>> CEDF20.09013804022010@news.giganews.com:
>>
>>> In article <DbGdnU40WNzuWvfWnZ2dnUVZ_hhi4p2d@giganews.com>,
>>> Ignoramus25542 <ignoramus25542@NOSPAM.25542.invalid> wrote:
>> ...
>>>> If I try threading, the half nuts would not stay engaged, they lose
>>>> this engamenent in a second or so. If I hold the engagement lever,
>>>> they they do stay engaged, but I feel the lever kind of bumping.
>>>>
>>>> What would be the typical cause of this?
>>>
>>> Wear and/or maladjustment. How much backlash does the closed half-nut
>>> have? (This ordinarily does not matter unless one is making very
>>> accurate and long screw threads, but is used to gauge wear.)
>>>
>>> Joe Gwinn
>>>
>>
>> Iggy, odds are you'll find almost no thread at all in the half-nuts. As
>> they become severely worn, the will tend to "hop" out of engagement.
>> There's only one solution -- replace them; if you're really in a pinch,
>> you can re-make the parts, but I'd look for replacements first.
>>
>> LLoyd
>
> And one additional point: If it does come down to making the replacements,
> and you have to make them on the same lathe, MAKE THEM NOW! Once the
> half-nuts won't hold engagement at all, you're screwed.
>

A few points of note.

1) New half nuts are $100 from Clausing (and I think they include a
new slotted circle for engaging them)
2) I have an extra pair of worn half nuts that came with the lathe
3) I think that you guys are right, I will try to take off the
carriage and apron and look at half nuts. Taking that stuff off will
be beneficial in other ways, such as cleaning the sliding surface,
etc.

== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 4 2010 8:29 am
From: "Ed Huntress"

"Ignoramus25542" <ignoramus25542@NOSPAM.25542.invalid> wrote in message
news:c4qdnTICwdABbffWnZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@giganews.com...
> On 2010-02-04, Joseph Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> wrote:
>> In article <DbGdnU40WNzuWvfWnZ2dnUVZ_hhi4p2d@giganews.com>,
>> Ignoramus25542 <ignoramus25542@NOSPAM.25542.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> The cleanup of the lathe is basically done all around, the VFD is
>>> wired the way I want and things are cookin'.
>>>
>>> Got something else going on...
>>>
>>> If I try threading, the half nuts would not stay engaged, they lose
>>> this engamenent in a second or so. If I hold the engagement lever,
>>> they they do stay engaged, but I feel the lever kind of bumping.
>>>
>>> What would be the typical cause of this?
>>
>> Wear and/or maladjustment. How much backlash does the closed half-nut
>> have? (This ordinarily does not matter unless one is making very
>> accurate and long screw threads, but is used to gauge wear.)
>
> Joe... Thanks... I called Clausing and talked to Tito. He told me to
> first clean the leadscrew very well and check the wear on slots of the
> round slotted circle that closes half nuts.
>
> This leadscrew proved exceptionally difficult to clean, in fact, I may
> just take it off and use a powerwasher or take it to a hot shower. I
> spent a lot of time cleaning it and it is still not as clean as it
> should be.

If you have the lathe running, set it to a slow speed/feedrate and wrap a
piece of heavy cotton cord ONCE ONLY around a groove in the leadscrew at one
end; pull hard on the cord; traverse the cord to the other end.

Soaking it in paint thinner, or, in a pinch, WD-40, will help clean out a
lot of gunk.

>
> The half nuts are $100 from Clausing, so even if they are bad, it is
> not the end of the world.
>
> i

== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 4 2010 8:30 am
From: "Ed Huntress"

"Ignoramus25542" <ignoramus25542@NOSPAM.25542.invalid> wrote in message
news:c4qdnS0CwdC8bPfWnZ2dnUVZ_gxi4p2d@giganews.com...
> On 2010-02-04, Ed Huntress <huntres23@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>> "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9D155D4D3FC2lloydspmindspringcom@216.168.3.70...
>>> Joseph Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> fired this volley in news:joegwinn-
>>> CEDF20.09013804022010@news.giganews.com:
>>>
>>>> In article <DbGdnU40WNzuWvfWnZ2dnUVZ_hhi4p2d@giganews.com>,
>>>> Ignoramus25542 <ignoramus25542@NOSPAM.25542.invalid> wrote:
>>> ...
>>>>> If I try threading, the half nuts would not stay engaged, they lose
>>>>> this engamenent in a second or so. If I hold the engagement lever,
>>>>> they they do stay engaged, but I feel the lever kind of bumping.
>>>>>
>>>>> What would be the typical cause of this?
>>>>
>>>> Wear and/or maladjustment. How much backlash does the closed half-nut
>>>> have? (This ordinarily does not matter unless one is making very
>>>> accurate and long screw threads, but is used to gauge wear.)
>>>>
>>>> Joe Gwinn
>>>>
>>>
>>> Iggy, odds are you'll find almost no thread at all in the half-nuts. As
>>> they become severely worn, the will tend to "hop" out of engagement.
>>> There's only one solution -- replace them; if you're really in a pinch,
>>> you can re-make the parts, but I'd look for replacements first.
>>>
>>> LLoyd
>>
>> And one additional point: If it does come down to making the
>> replacements,
>> and you have to make them on the same lathe, MAKE THEM NOW! Once the
>> half-nuts won't hold engagement at all, you're screwed.
>>
>
> A few points of note.
>
> 1) New half nuts are $100 from Clausing (and I think they include a
> new slotted circle for engaging them)
> 2) I have an extra pair of worn half nuts that came with the lathe
> 3) I think that you guys are right, I will try to take off the
> carriage and apron and look at half nuts. Taking that stuff off will
> be beneficial in other ways, such as cleaning the sliding surface,
> etc.

And look for settled gunk in the apron.

--
Ed Huntress

== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 4 2010 8:46 am
From: Ignoramus25542

On 2010-02-04, Ed Huntress <huntres23@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> And look for settled gunk in the apron.
>

Regarding taking off apron: I did try this once.

It did not work: the "carriage locking screw" would not unscrew all
the way.

I did not want to force it and I had other issues, so I gave up and
moved on to other things, but now is the time to look at it.

The carriage locking screw connects to a plate under the carriage, so
that when you tighten it it grabs the bed.

The screw unscrews, but stops midway and I wanted to know if I am
doing something wrong or should just use a bit more force.

== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 4 2010 8:49 am
From: "Ed Huntress"

"Ignoramus25542" <ignoramus25542@NOSPAM.25542.invalid> wrote in message
news:geqdnUwqVuadZ_fWnZ2dnUVZ_vdi4p2d@giganews.com...
> On 2010-02-04, Ed Huntress <huntres23@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>> And look for settled gunk in the apron.
>>
>
> Regarding taking off apron: I did try this once.
>
> It did not work: the "carriage locking screw" would not unscrew all
> the way.
>
> I did not want to force it and I had other issues, so I gave up and
> moved on to other things, but now is the time to look at it.
>
> The carriage locking screw connects to a plate under the carriage, so
> that when you tighten it it grabs the bed.
>
> The screw unscrews, but stops midway and I wanted to know if I am
> doing something wrong or should just use a bit more force.
>
> i

Good question. I hope someone who knows your lathe can give you an answer,
because it would be a bugger to strip a special screw trying to find out.

--
Ed Huntress

== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 4 2010 9:23 am
From: Dave__67

On Feb 4, 11:29 am, "Ed Huntress" <huntre...@optonline.net> wrote:
> "Ignoramus25542" <ignoramus25...@NOSPAM.25542.invalid> wrote in message
>
> news:c4qdnTICwdABbffWnZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
>
>
> > On 2010-02-04, Joseph Gwinn <joegw...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> In article <DbGdnU40WNzuWvfWnZ2dnUVZ_hhi4...@giganews.com>,
> >> Ignoramus25542 <ignoramus25...@NOSPAM.25542.invalid> wrote:
>
> >>> The cleanup of the lathe is basically done all around, the VFD is
> >>> wired the way I want and things are cookin'.
>
> >>> Got something else going on...
>
> >>> If I try threading, the half nuts would not stay engaged, they lose
> >>> this engamenent in a second or so. If I hold the engagement lever,
> >>> they they do stay engaged, but I feel the lever kind of bumping.
>
> >>> What would be the typical cause of this?
>
> >> Wear and/or maladjustment. How much backlash does the closed half-nut
> >> have? (This ordinarily does not matter unless one is making very
> >> accurate and long screw threads, but is used to gauge wear.)
>
> > Joe... Thanks... I called Clausing and talked to Tito. He told me to
> > first clean the leadscrew very well and check the wear on slots of the
> > round slotted circle that closes half nuts.
>
> > This leadscrew proved exceptionally difficult to clean, in fact, I may
> > just take it off and use a powerwasher or take it to a hot shower. I
> > spent a lot of time cleaning it and it is still not as clean as it
> > should be.
>
> If you have the lathe running, set it to a slow speed/feedrate and wrap a
> piece of heavy cotton cord ONCE ONLY around a groove in the leadscrew at one
> end; pull hard on the cord; traverse the cord to the other end.
>
> Soaking it in paint thinner, or, in a pinch, WD-40, will help clean out a
> lot of gunk.
>
>
>
> > The half nuts are $100 from Clausing, so even if they are bad, it is
> > not the end of the world.
>
> > i

AND DON"T WRAP THE CORD AROUND EITHER HAND!!

Attaching the cord ends to the end of a board and holding the board
would add a safety factor, and let you pull harder.

Dave

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TOPIC: wannabe apologizes to the Original JoeCool788
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/9f102a8600e4bccf?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 4 2010 8:05 am
From: Joe788

On Feb 2, 7:56 pm, Joe788 <larryro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> To the Original Joe788...I sincerely apologize for being such an
> asshole and allowing my adoration and admiration for you drive me to
> make outrageous lies and accusations. Dude, you are the bomb! You are
> seriously Joe Cool. I can't promise that my behavior will ever
> improve. I'm have a moment of clarity and wanted to publicly apologize
> for even thinking I could ever come close to be as cool as you are. I
> just hope you get to read this before I come back to my stark raving
> madness and rip my post down!

LOL.

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TOPIC: What is it? Set 322
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/ad6b67af8694d2e9?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 4 2010 8:08 am
From: Dave__67

On Feb 4, 8:18 am, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
<lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:
> Dave__67 <spamTHIS...@yahoo.com> fired this volley in news:b12aaab1-8f8c-
> 4201-a418-13d0301e2...@3g2000yqn.googlegroups.com:
>
> >http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> 1845 is a birthing chair
>
> LLoyd

My memory is good, but not *that* good!

Dave

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 4 2010 9:10 am
From: jbry3@triton.net

1843: too small for anything I can think of
1844: playing card holder (Might be just a hair out of ratio for a Bridge
set)
(anybody play Bridge anymore? )
1845: 3,000 years? Would Egyptians/Assyrians/whoever make a kiddie seat?
1846: I can't read the embossed letters, but I'm thinking it's not "brass
knuckles". Maybe a pipe or cable organizer/standoff?
1847:
1848: window bars still attached to the base (or upside down header?)
block. Alternatively, I could see it in an older water construction. Those
are rust flakes on the upper pipes?.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 4 2010 9:12 am
From: E Z Peaces

Rob H. wrote:
> Today's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

1843 Taser dart.

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TOPIC: Finished Modified Versa Cart And Testing Results, Now With Better
Picture And Extra Words With The First Letter Capitalized On Every Word And A
Five Star Rating.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/6098ae6cc51424c1?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 4 2010 8:08 am
From: Joe788

On Feb 4, 4:25 am, Joe788 <larryro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Finally got around to drilling and installing the blind threaded
fasteners on the bottom of the Versa Cart with the special tool I
purchased just for this job. I did this modification so I could remove
the large middle wheel that Kennedy supplies with a Versa Cart. The
original wheel supplied with Kennedy Versa Carts easily flat spots
and
people trip over it because it sticks out and is hard to see. I
consider it to be dangerous.

I've tested my modified Versa Cart and it's almost as maneuverable as
the original setup. My new Versa Cart setup turns out to be very
steady. Naturally the idiot Tom Brewer, now posting as Larry Rozer,
was once again completely wrong and this modification works great. It
should go without saying that Tom Brewer's hero and mentor Cliffy
Huprich was also wrong about my idea to modify the Kennedy Versa
Cart.

The two wheels in the middle are fixed and the two wheels on each end
are the swivel type that lock.

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=205e1hz&s=6

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TOPIC: Home of the Free, the Brave and the Gay
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/e498f6bd3200ff6e?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 4 2010 8:31 am
From: Larry Graham

Lookout wrote:

> On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:10:13 -0500, Larry Graham
> <Slyandthefamily@bass.gov> wrote:
>
>
>>Lookout wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Doctors say homosexuality is normal.
>>
>>BWAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA!
>>
>>Look out!
>>
>>Lookout's doctor has the cure!
>
>
> It's a fact. But you can't handle facts and the truth, can you? Why is
> that?

I know that you and "TMT" are faggots.

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 4 2010 8:41 am
From: Larry Graham

Lookout wrote:

> On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:17:38 -0500, Larry Graham
> <Slyandthefamily@bass.gov> wrote:
>
>
>>Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Feb 3, 2:01 pm, Kasim Sulton <Uto...@bass.gov> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Lookout wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Homosexuality really scares you. Why?
>>>>
>>>>Because you faggots spread disease when your penises go from man-ass to
>>>>man-mouth, and back again, when you attempt to lick yourselves clean.
>>>>
>>>>Why do you fear Heterosexuality?
>>>>You know.. the NORMAL thing! :)
>>>>
>>>>It's not like you and yer butt buddy "TMT" are gonna have a girl when
>>>>you plook him in the ass.
>>>>
>>>>Just because YOU came out the wrong hole when born, means nothing.
>>>
>>>
>>>LOL...was that the right question to ask!
>>
>>Your butt buddy "Lookout" just said that being a homo is normal!
>
>
> I said doctors have said that. You're lying again.
>
>
>>No wonder you are scared stiff to show up and take my guns away!
>
>
> No one ever said someone was going to. You're lying again.

Your Butt buddy "TMT" said exactly that.
And HE said that you were his friend!

>>Now I have more legal reasons to end your silly lives, IF you try to
>>enter my home illegaly.

> Why would anyone do that?

Because that is what normal people like me try to do, when you silly
freaks break into the homes of us normal people.

First I say "Stop! Follow my orders, or die!"
Then I shoot you anyway.

>>You faggots have cooties, AND you want to commit burglary!

> You're afraid of your own sexuality.

Why would I be afraid of being a normal man, defending my normal female
wife, in our normal home?

"TMT" said he was coming to my house to take my guns away, with his friends.
Then he said he would bring his "friends."

YOU are listed as being one of his friends.

YOU just insinuated that you are very gay.

Do the math, buttercup.

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 4 2010 8:50 am
From: Larry Graham

Too_Many_Tools wrote:

> Both homo and hetrosexuality are normal...check the science.

So your and "Lookout's" homosexuality is considered "normal" instead of
just tolerated?

> So when the SWAT team enter your home to search and seize, do you
> think you will get off a shot before you are riddled with holes?

Why would I shoot at the police, strawman?
They have no reason to search my home.
The locals and I are very good friends.

I said I would shoot to stop _YOU_, (Killing you in the process is an
bonus!) if you enter my home illegally, like you said you would.

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 4 2010 8:55 am
From: Larry Graham

Too_Many_Tools wrote:

> On Feb 3, 4:41 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Talk-n-
> dog.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2/3/2010 5:28 PM, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>On Feb 3, 4:17 pm, Larry Graham <Slyandthefam...@bass.gov> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Feb 3, 2:01 pm, Kasim Sulton <Uto...@bass.gov> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>Lookout wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>Homosexuality really scares you. Why?
>>
>>>>>>Because you faggots spread disease when your penises go from man-ass to
>>>>>>man-mouth, and back again, when you attempt to lick yourselves clean.
>>
>>>>>>Why do you fear Heterosexuality?
>>>>>>You know.. the NORMAL thing! :)
>>
>>>>>>It's not like you and yer butt buddy "TMT" are gonna have a girl when
>>>>>>you plook him in the ass.
>>
>>>>>>Just because YOU came out the wrong hole when born, means nothing.
>>
>>>>>LOL...was that the right question to ask!
>>
>>>>Your butt buddy "Lookout" just said that being a homo is normal!
>>>>No wonder you are scared stiff to show up and take my guns away!
>>
>>>>Now I have more legal reasons to end your silly lives, IF you try to
>>>>enter my home illegaly.
>>
>>>>You faggots have cooties, AND you want to commit burglary!- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>>- Show quoted text -
>>
>>>Both homo and hetrosexuality are normal...check the science.
>>
>>>So when the SWAT team enter your home to search and seize, do you
>>>think you will get off a shot before you are riddled with holes?
>>
>>>TMT
>>
>>Which sexuality isn't normal?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>- Show quoted text -
>
>
> Sex with a conservative...you always regret it and you may end having
> a bastard or bitch.
>
> Dick Cheney and Sarah Palin are examples of the unnatural act.

How EVIL!
Both are married to the Opposite sex!!!

And you and lookout are pumping splooge into each others bottoms and
throats to make a world class Democrat?

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 4 2010 9:15 am
From: Curly Surmudgeon

On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 11:41:10 -0500, Larry Graham
<Slyandthefamily@bass.gov> wrote:

> Lookout wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:17:38 -0500, Larry Graham
>> <Slyandthefamily@bass.gov> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Feb 3, 2:01 pm, Kasim Sulton <Uto...@bass.gov> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Lookout wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Homosexuality really scares you. Why?
>>>>>
>>>>>Because you faggots spread disease when your penises go from man-ass
>>>>>to man-mouth, and back again, when you attempt to lick yourselves
>>>>>clean.
>>>>>
>>>>>Why do you fear Heterosexuality?
>>>>>You know.. the NORMAL thing! :)
>>>>>
>>>>>It's not like you and yer butt buddy "TMT" are gonna have a girl when
>>>>>you plook him in the ass.
>>>>>
>>>>>Just because YOU came out the wrong hole when born, means nothing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>LOL...was that the right question to ask!
>>>
>>>Your butt buddy "Lookout" just said that being a homo is normal!
>>
>>
>> I said doctors have said that. You're lying again.
>>
>>
>>>No wonder you are scared stiff to show up and take my guns away!
>>
>>
>> No one ever said someone was going to. You're lying again.
>
> Your Butt buddy "TMT" said exactly that. And HE said that you were his
> friend!
>
>
>>>Now I have more legal reasons to end your silly lives, IF you try to
>>>enter my home illegaly.
>
>> Why would anyone do that?
>
> Because that is what normal people like me try to do, when you silly
> freaks break into the homes of us normal people.
>
> First I say "Stop! Follow my orders, or die!" Then I shoot you anyway.
>
>>>You faggots have cooties, AND you want to commit burglary!
>
>> You're afraid of your own sexuality.
>
> Why would I be afraid of being a normal man, defending my normal female
> wife, in our normal home?
>
> "TMT" said he was coming to my house to take my guns away, with his
> friends. Then he said he would bring his "friends."
>
> YOU are listed as being one of his friends.
>
> YOU just insinuated that you are very gay.
>
> Do the math, buttercup.

Pig Brick/Basil Karlo/Libby Loo morphed another alias...

Buh-bye!

--
Regards, Curly
--------------------------------------------------
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The Bible: Slavery good. Gays bad. Snakes talk.
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== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 4 2010 9:18 am
From: Beam Me Up Scotty

On 2/4/2010 11:41 AM, Larry Graham wrote:
> Lookout wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:17:38 -0500, Larry Graham
>> <Slyandthefamily@bass.gov> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Feb 3, 2:01 pm, Kasim Sulton <Uto...@bass.gov> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Lookout wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Homosexuality really scares you. Why?
>>>>>
>>>>> Because you faggots spread disease when your penises go from
>>>>> man-ass to
>>>>> man-mouth, and back again, when you attempt to lick yourselves clean.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do you fear Heterosexuality?
>>>>> You know.. the NORMAL thing! :)
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not like you and yer butt buddy "TMT" are gonna have a girl when
>>>>> you plook him in the ass.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just because YOU came out the wrong hole when born, means nothing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> LOL...was that the right question to ask!
>>>
>>> Your butt buddy "Lookout" just said that being a homo is normal!
>>
>>
>> I said doctors have said that. You're lying again.
>>
>>
>>> No wonder you are scared stiff to show up and take my guns away!
>>
>>
>> No one ever said someone was going to. You're lying again.
>
> Your Butt buddy "TMT" said exactly that.
> And HE said that you were his friend!
>
>
>>> Now I have more legal reasons to end your silly lives, IF you try to
>>> enter my home illegaly.
>
>> Why would anyone do that?
>
> Because that is what normal people like me try to do, when you silly
> freaks break into the homes of us normal people.
>
> First I say "Stop! Follow my orders, or die!"
> Then I shoot you anyway.
>
>>> You faggots have cooties, AND you want to commit burglary!
>
>> You're afraid of your own sexuality.

Here is where you tell us we are all having homosexual feelings and we
are scared to accept that we are GAY.....

Somehow you Gays think everyone is gay, somehow you are incensed that
someone would consider that we are all heterosexual and gays are just
confused, yet Gays find it absolutely acceptable to say we are
homosexual and some are just not accepting it. The problem is that we
heterosexuals, *aren't* all gay deep down inside, go on and tell us how
we are homophobic because we are really gay and we are just scared to
admit it.

This psycho babble from gays is spewed over and over.... the typical
Liberal-Progressive premise is to cast doubt and then change the
definitions of the words or make up new words like HOMOPHOBIC to attack
the status quo and try to get their agenda to have a foot in the door
and then make it sound like their new agenda is and has been the
unrecognized status quo all along.

You know... like Gays and gay marriage has always been around.... and if
you don't love gays then you are homophobic, which is now a hate crime,
and now when you say negative things about gays it's illegal too.

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TOPIC: Chainsaw questions
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/e6a654ae61cda7a0?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 4 2010 9:30 am
From: "Steve B"

"Joe" <see_real_one@sig.lin> wrote

> Just curious - why are you putting Stabil in there now? Do you plan on
> putting it up for a while after the job?

I have decided to put Stabil in all my gas. I buy 5-10 gallons at a time to
keep at the ranch. Sometimes it sits for a while before use, and it gets
hot here. So, if I put it in from the get go, at least I have something in
there that is helping the gas to stay decent until use. Sometimes the
chainsaw, as well as ATVs, log splitter, lawn mower, and trimmer do not get
run for quite a while.

Steve

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TOPIC: A test for young people
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/e250300c60eaaa8e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 4 2010 9:33 am
From: "Steve B"

"Joe" <see_real_one@sig.lin> wrote in message
news:lh1jm590f7a4ji85mcob0c4kn1r96mjnch@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 18:01:45 -0500, "Ed Huntress"
> <huntres23@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Wes" <clutch@lycos.com> wrote in message
>>news:DW1an.69610$tq1.11311@en-nntp-03.dc1.easynews.com...
>>> "Ed Huntress" <huntres23@optonline.net> wrote:
> [snip]
>>>
>>> I complained about the shortage to ConAgra, they sent a free coupon for
>>> a
>>> dinner. I'll
>>> just wait for new "larger portions" before I buy from them again.
>>
>>Squeeky Wheel Syndrome. My wife is good at that.
>
> Trouble is, it seems to be their only response. My wife likes a
> certain brand of flavored coffee creamer; a while ago they changed the
> bottle to a stupid shape that fits poorly in the fridge, with a cap
> that is less than functional. Somebody's idea of an "artistic"
> approach, no doubt. She complained that the packaging was making the
> product tough to use, and she got a coupon for - guess what. Still a
> PITA, regardless of price. But it beats having to think through to
> arrive at a solution.
>
> Joe

I live in Mormon country. They either don't sell Amaretto creamer, or have
it in the prohibitively expensive smaller containers, but WILL NOT stock the
larger ones. Even though it is non-alcoholic, it tastes similar enough to
the liquor to break the purity of anyone who drinks it. Supposedly.

Steve

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TOPIC: insulate a pipe
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/ac01bac05c1a861d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 4 2010 8:52 am
From: Ecnerwal

In article <ucsan.5354$4N4.3233@newsfe24.iad>,
"William Wixon" <wwixon@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> i'd think great stuff is very vulnerable to UV (i've seen it here turn brown
> and erode as a result of what i assume is UV attack). i'm wondering about
> putting a covering of aluminum foil scrunched over it, tie it on with
> stainless safety wire?
>
> b.w.

You can get black spray foam which is supposed to be more UV durable.
The pond folks seem to use a lot of it. Or you put on enough of the tan
stuff that what turns dark brown serves the same purpose. Nothing much
is permanent.

--
Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by

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TOPIC: Does anyone still use lantern toolposts
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/eb00303924b64ae5?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 4 2010 9:15 am
From: "Ed Huntress"

"David Billington" <djb@djbillington.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4b6a0bf0$0$2531$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...
> Ed Huntress wrote:
>> "David Billington" <djb@djbillington.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:4b6a027c$0$2476$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
>>
>>> Ignoramus14738 wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was just wondering if anyone who has a lathe capable of using a
>>>> quick change toolpost like Aloris, would still have any reason to ever
>>>> need a lantern toolpost.
>>>> My feeling on this matter, without knowing too much, is that lantern
>>>> toolposts are obsolete and quick change is the way to go, and there is
>>>> never a reason to use these old style tools.
>>>>
>>>> Would there be anyone who disagrees with this.
>>>>
>>>> i
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I've been machining stuff, mostly as an amateur, since about 1977-1978
>>> when I did metal shop in junior high when I was 12- 13 and have only
>>> used lantern tool posts in the US. Been living in the UK since 1982 and
>>> the lantern types always seemed a PITA and have never needed one for
>>> anything I've done in the last 28 years. Apart from indexing 4 way
>>> toolposts that needed shimming I've almost always used Dickson type
>>> toolposts in the UK or IIRC the Swiss type fitted to some UK Hardinges
>>> which have a similar height adjustment. Both my current lathes have
>>> Dickson or Bison knock off toolposts.
>>>
>>> The main odd ball toolpost attachment I've run across was a local
>>> machinist that had a Bridgeport M head fitted to the cross-slide of his
>>> lathe. He had the head and had a requirement for a helical passage on a
>>> hydraulic heat exchanger. The heat exchanger comprised a heavy wall tube
>>> with one fluid flowing down the centre and another in the helical outer
>>> passage, it had a shaeth. He used a lathe about 20" - 24" IIRC and
>>> mounted the Bridgeport M head on the carriage and then did thread
>>> cutting as normal, with a very coarse pitch, but with a milling head
>>> doing the cutting. Impressive and worked a treat.
>>>
>>
>> When I was involved with a machine shop, back in '73 - '78, we mounted a
>> Bridgeport J head, vertically, onto the bed of our Sheldon 1710H NC
>> lathe. We rigged a table on the cross-slide and used it to mill batches
>> of parts, 24 in a setup, IIRC, under control of the Bendix 5 NC.
>> Programming was an interesting trick. <g> But it worked very well, and I
>> wrote an article about it for _NC Shopowner_ magazine.
>>
>> We couldn't afford a CNC mill yet. That came a couple of years later.
>>
>>
>
> Shame you don't, or haven't, posted pictures, that would be interesting to
> see.

I don't post pictures because I don't have many that are interesting. Also,
I've never done it, and don't want to learn how. <g>

The NC Shopowner article didn't make it through my Great Purge of a couple
of years ago, I'm afraid. However, I have some snapshots of the setup that I
took at the time, when I was thinking about writing an article, which show
how the head was mounted (it was on the tailstock, not the bed -- memory is
failing me), and a bit of the milling operation. If you're interested, send
me an e-mail with your address and you can take a look at them -- or post a
couple, if you're so inclined.

Remove the "3" for my real e-mail address:

--
Ed Huntress
huntres23@optonline.net

>
> This chap, it was his shop, unfortunately had a bit of a distrust of
> things electrickery and had no DROs on any tools, he had a couple of mills
> that would have benefited from them. When he was attending one of my
> neighbours party, old friends from Stottert & Pitt, he popped round to
> check out the Sony DRO reading on my BP against the dials, spot on, but he
> had a distrust, a real shame.He was claimed prematurely by cancer. He
> specialised in spline cutting, keyways, gears. He ran a number of Fellows
> gear shapers. His only foray into CNC that I'm aware of was the
> acquisition of an old CNC Beaver mill with Fanuc control and 4th axis that
> was used to do an order for prime number master gears. I think he knew
> his stuff but in that case he was hoping for help from his computer
> literate son that helped but didn't want to take on the business.

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TOPIC: A new "constitutional right"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/8e77e80070fe5b42?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 4 2010 9:22 am
From: Curly Surmudgeon

On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:07:34 -0800, "dcaster@krl.org" <dcaster@krl.org>
wrote:

> On Feb 4, 7:08 am, Hawke <davesmith...@digitalpath.net> wrote:
>
>> People can speak their minds. Corporations can't. Corporations speak
>> when a handful of managers say what the corporations wants. The
>> corporations have no right to be involved in elections at all. Unions
>> are not the same. Members can vote to decide what the union should do.
>> Corporations are not democratic. It's congress's power that gives a
>> corporation any rights so it can do anything it wants. If it is good to
>> restrict corporate power for the good of the country they can do that.
>> So yes, congress can decide who has more power or a louder voice.
>>
>> Hawke
>
> Actually Corporations can speak their minds. The Supreme Court said
> that Congress violated the Constitution when it said Corporations can
> not speak their minds. Congress can not restrict corporate power at
> least as far as free speach. So No, Congress can not decide who has the
> more power or louder voice.
>
> Dan

Which shows just how fucked up America is.

--
Regards, Curly
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TOPIC: Anybody need an air bearing spindle ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/12681aabd7f23243?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 4 2010 9:33 am
From: Jim Stewart

Buerste wrote:
> What do you have in mind? I need a spindle to spin a 6" cut-off disk to
> trim End brushes.

I think you would be disappointed with the results.
Air bearings need very clean dry air to work and
probably wouldn't be happy with the amount of side
load you'd be applying.

> "Jon Elson" <elson@pico-systems.com> wrote in message
> news:AcmdnRaGq7DXwPfWnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> I just picked up a Professional Instruments BlockHead 4R air bearing
>> spindle assembly. It has an integral motor, resolver, brake and shaft
>> encoder. It was used in a disk drive development lab, and currently
>> has a
>> pneumatically activated clamp for a disk platter mounted on it.
>> But, looking at the company web site (still in business, the 4R is still
>> a current model) they use these for precision grinding and other tool
>> applications, too. It is rated for 10,000 RPM, and has a radial
>> stiffness of
>> 0.67 Lbs/microinch. I don't know the details of the motor, whether it is
>> 3-phase induction or PM brushless. It appears to be unused, as it still
>> has the factory shipping lock on the spindle.
>>
>> This is a big unit, seems to weigh about 40 Lbs. Does anyone have
>> any use for such an item (before I list it on eBay)?
>>
>> Jon
>

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