Thursday, March 11, 2010

rec.crafts.metalworking - 25 new messages in 11 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* OT Spam RS232 / RS485 Converter, digitalzone88 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/20382251086acf87?hl=en
* DIY Two-Stroke Engine Construction Methods - 7 messages, 6 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/7e49cf5c0ea97580?hl=en
* OT donate to sen. bennett and sen. gillibrand - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/e1f414380a1c6da6?hl=en
* Martin Aircraft jetpack - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/8df60022f4fe53e8?hl=en
* What is it? Set 327 - 6 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/106cd720e505c094?hl=en
* Recent metalworking projects - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/141d8b1977e06268?hl=en
* Faux:: Your Socialist "news" - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/3e3d6c824afb9e20?hl=en
* Gold - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/dd0c885b2701ee87?hl=en
* OT Browsers OT - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/42ff6843726afa73?hl=en
* Not Quite OT - Partially Aluminized Mylar Sheeting - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/9288170d70c52fe4?hl=en
* GLOAT and brake control 101 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/9e338c61ce36e7f7?hl=en

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TOPIC: OT Spam RS232 / RS485 Converter, digitalzone88
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/20382251086acf87?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 6:48 am
From: Bob Engelhardt


How about a universal card reader* for a $1 (+$1.99 shipping) or an
extra fan that uses a PCI slot ($1 + $1.78):
http://cgi.ebay.com/3-5-All-in-1-Internal-Card-Reader-Flash-Memory-USB_W0QQitemZ280422024964
http://cgi.ebay.com/SYSTEM-BLOWER-CPU-CASE-PCI-SLOT-FAN-COOLER-FOR-PC_W0QQitemZ260504934578

Bob

* - if you're an old-timer computer-wise, when you see "card reader",
you think of a desk-sized machine for reading IBM punch cards <G>.

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TOPIC: DIY Two-Stroke Engine Construction Methods
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/7e49cf5c0ea97580?hl=en
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 6:57 am
From: Jim Stewart


cavelamb wrote:
> frank wrote:
>>
>> Anything that flies a person has to be certified by the FAA anyway.
>> Especially homebuilts due to some fatal crashes early on.
>
>
> When did this start???

It didn't. Experimental class is still around
and my friend still flies a VW engined plane.


== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 7:17 am
From: Charles Vincent


cavelamb wrote:
> frank wrote:
>>
>> Anything that flies a person has to be certified by the FAA anyway.
>> Especially homebuilts due to some fatal crashes early on.
>
>
> When did this start???

Which? Stupidity on the internet or stupidity in our government?

Charles


== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 7:58 am
From: "Leon@caspercityauto.com"


On Mar 11, 8:17 am, Charles Vincent <xlc...@swbell.net> wrote:

> > When did this start???
>
> Which?  Stupidity on the internet or stupidity in our government?


Government stupidity came first. Al G. just wanted to bring it to the
general public .................
===============
Leon


== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 8:29 am
From: Tim Wescott


frank wrote:
> On Mar 10, 9:02 pm, Rufus <n...@home.com> wrote:
>> durabol wrote:
>>> The two main methods for homebuilt construction would be casting vs.
>>> machining or some combination of both (probably the best option).
>>> Forging probably isn't appropriate for home construction (either the

-- snip --

>> like a motorcycle engine - strip it down and just build the parts and
>> accessories required to make it turn a prop. And along the way one can
>> also machine it's component parts down to lighten it...run it on the
>> ground, if it breaks, you know you went too far.
>>
>> --
>> - Rufus (pilot, engineer, jeweler, model builder...yadda, yadda...)
>
> Anything that flies a person has to be certified by the FAA anyway.
> Especially homebuilts due to some fatal crashes early on.

The FAA licensing process for homebuilts is much lighter weight than for
'regular' aircraft. People can and do convert automotive engines for
homebuilts, and fly them. There are many building processes that aren't
certified for general aviation, but which are acceptable to the FAA
inspectors for homebuilts.

Check the EAA website (eaa.org?) -- they'll have something.

--
Tim Wescott
Control system and signal processing consulting
www.wescottdesign.com


== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 9:00 am
From: cavelamb


Leon@caspercityauto.com wrote:
> On Mar 11, 8:17 am, Charles Vincent <xlc...@swbell.net> wrote:
>
>>> When did this start???
>> Which? Stupidity on the internet or stupidity in our government?
>
>
> Government stupidity came first. Al G. just wanted to bring it to the
> general public .................
> ===============
> Leon

What? This?

Anything that flies a person has to be certified by the FAA anyway.
Especially homebuilts due to some fatal crashes early on.

This is completely false!

--

Richard Lamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 9:07 am
From: jan olieslagers


cavelamb schreef:
> What? This?
>
> Anything that flies a person has to be certified by the FAA anyway.
> Especially homebuilts due to some fatal crashes early on.
>
> This is completely false!

The sheer fact that he implies the FAA has worldwide authority shows he
doesn't know what he is talking about. Least said soonest forgotten.


== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 9:11 am
From: Jim Stewart


cavelamb wrote:
> Leon@caspercityauto.com wrote:
>> On Mar 11, 8:17 am, Charles Vincent <xlc...@swbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> When did this start???
>>> Which? Stupidity on the internet or stupidity in our government?
>>
>>
>> Government stupidity came first. Al G. just wanted to bring it to the
>> general public .................
>> ===============
>> Leon
>
> What? This?
>
> Anything that flies a person has to be certified by the FAA anyway.
> Especially homebuilts due to some fatal crashes early on.
>
> This is completely false!

Wrong.

My airplane, a Flight Design CTSW, has a
special light sport airworthiness certificate
and an uncertified Rotax 912ULS engine.

Rotax 912ULS engines are also the engine
of choice for many homebuilders.

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TOPIC: OT donate to sen. bennett and sen. gillibrand
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/e1f414380a1c6da6?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 7:16 am
From: F. George McDuffee


If anyone is still following this thread, one of the major health
care "canaries in the coal mine" [Miami Fl] is about to keel
over. It can only get worse.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/03/10/1523476/grand-jury-is-probing-jackson.html
<snip>
With Jackson executives using end-of-life terms like "death
spiral'' and "insolvency'' and a grand jury starting to
investigate the public health system's problems, Miami-Dade Mayor
Carlos Alvarez said Wednesday he would help Jackson get a
short-term loan but demanded its governing body speed up a
decision on a recovery plan.

``At this point, delays are simply too costly to accept
lightly,'' Alvarez wrote to Jackson Chief Executive Eneida
Roldan, who has called for the Public Health Trust to approve a
plan to cut $160 million by March 22. Alvarez wants to see a plan
presented to the County Commission on Tuesday.
<snip>


Unka George (George McDuffee)
..............................
The past is a foreign country;
they do things differently there.
L. P. Hartley (1895-1972), British author.
The Go-Between, Prologue (1953).

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TOPIC: Martin Aircraft jetpack
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/8df60022f4fe53e8?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 7:17 am
From: "David Courtney"


"Ken Moffett" <KLMoffett@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9D3841244442Dqwerty@216.151.153.61...
> Cliff <Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in
> news:aq1hp51ffar3egiemfp8kjm64v5ecj99im@4ax.com:
>
>> http://www.gizmag.com/first-commercially-available-jetpack
>> /14423/
>>
>> "The Jetpack achieves with 30 minutes of flight time .."
>>
>
> Kind of feels like PhotoShop. 30 minutes of flight...and no
> video?
>
> Ken

It's real... it was here in Oshkosh during the EAA.
Videos are here: http://www.martinjetpack.com/video-gallery.aspx
It's more of a "ducted-fan" pack than a "jet" pack, but they did design
and build there own 200hp two-stroke engine.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 7:44 am
From: Pete Keillor


On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:17:55 -0600, "David Courtney"
<advance@powercom.net> wrote:

>"Ken Moffett" <KLMoffett@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:Xns9D3841244442Dqwerty@216.151.153.61...
>> Cliff <Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in
>> news:aq1hp51ffar3egiemfp8kjm64v5ecj99im@4ax.com:
>>
>>> http://www.gizmag.com/first-commercially-available-jetpack
>>> /14423/
>>>
>>> "The Jetpack achieves with 30 minutes of flight time .."
>>>
>>
>> Kind of feels like PhotoShop. 30 minutes of flight...and no
>> video?
>>
>> Ken
>
> It's real... it was here in Oshkosh during the EAA.
> Videos are here: http://www.martinjetpack.com/video-gallery.aspx
> It's more of a "ducted-fan" pack than a "jet" pack, but they did design
>and build there own 200hp two-stroke engine.
>
>
Wow, no thanks. That's a lot more like strapping yourself to a car as
the front bumper than a "pack".

Pete Keillor

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TOPIC: What is it? Set 327
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/106cd720e505c094?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 7:29 am
From: "Rob H."

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9D385D5E13CB3lloydspmindspringcom@216.168.3.70...
> RobH sent:
>
> 1877 -- The carbide lamp and flask of carbide suggests these are part of a
> miner's or tunneler's kit. The reversible breast drill might have been
> used for drilling small charge holes.
>
> LLoyd


I was thinking that the flask contained black powder but that could be
incorrect. These particular tools were not used for mining or tunneling.


Rob

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 7:59 am
From: Andy Dingley


On 11 Mar, 10:45, "Rob H." <rhv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The first device is probably fairly difficult, so instead of suggesting the
> specific use for it feel free to guess which profession would have used it:

#1877
Safecracker's toolkit. On topic for rec.wood, note that the breast
drill is adapted so as to pack flat.


== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 8:27 am
From: "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"


Andy Dingley <dingbat@codesmiths.com> fired this volley in
news:55a598e3-99a5-40c8-b332-196a7796f681@t20g2000yqe.googlegroups.com:

> On 11 Mar, 10:45, "Rob H." <rhv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The first device is probably fairly difficult, so instead of
>> suggesting the specific use for it feel free to guess which
>> profession would have used it:
>
> #1877
> Safecracker's toolkit. On topic for rec.wood, note that the breast
> drill is adapted so as to pack flat.
>

If that's correct, then the flask is definitely NOT black powder, which
would be useless in blowing a safe. On the other hand, the "pitcher"
with the long spout in the upper left could be used to drip
nitroglycerine in through a bored hold.

I think that's it, Andy.

LLoyd


== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 8:27 am
From: Dave__67


On Mar 11, 8:13 am, Dave__67 <spamTHIS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 11, 5:45 am, "Rob H." <rhv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The first device is probably fairly difficult, so instead of suggesting the
> > specific use for it feel free to guess which profession would have used it:
>
> >http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> > Rob
>
> 1875-
> "Reno LePaute" made radio and telephonic equipment, so it's in that
> genre...
>
> Dave

Hmm, knob slides over, something gets held between the brass
electrodes...

Dave


== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 9:07 am
From: "Rob H."


> 1873 is a watchmakers tool


This answer is correct.


Rob


== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 9:21 am
From: "Rob H."


>> #1877
>> Safecracker's toolkit. On topic for rec.wood, note that the breast
>> drill is adapted so as to pack flat.


Yes, these items were used by a safecracker, though I'm not sure of the
purpose of the device at the bottom of the photo, looks to be some type of
heater.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album11/pic1877a.jpg


> If that's correct, then the flask is definitely NOT black powder, which
> would be useless in blowing a safe.


The text below is from the link that follows, it mentions the use of black
powder in opening a safe:

"For gunpowder (blackpowder) to be charged into a mechanism such as this
would require that a hole be drilled through the door plate. This would have
been done using either a belly brace or ratchet drill.

This was not always necessary however as in the early days the keylocks were
capacious enough to accept enough black powder, which, being detonated in
such a confined space could remove the lock cap and bolt allowing the
boltwork to be withdrawn."


http://peterman.org.uk/constanddest.htm


>On the other hand, the "pitcher"
> with the long spout in the upper left could be used to drip
> nitroglycerine in through a bored hole.


I think both tools at the top were for blowing black powder into the keyhole
or a hole drilled in the safe.

Rob


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TOPIC: Recent metalworking projects
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 7:37 am
From: "Steve B"

"Larry Jaques" <ljaques@diversify.invalid> wrote in message
news:vpqgp5pla5ut28u4godoupcgg36pa6o3gl@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:15:07 -0800, the infamous "Steve B"
> <deserttraver@fishymail.net> scrawled the following:
>
>>
>>"Larry Jaques" <ljaques@diversify.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:7lafp5prqqet91p9ve7kb91prktd1ghm6l@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 22:23:29 -0800, the infamous "Steve B"
>>> <deserttraver@fishymail.net> scrawled the following:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Larry Jaques" <ljaques@diversify.invalid> wrote
>>>>
>>>>> Go for it, Steve, and good luck with the medical device and
>>>>> pharmaceutical lawyers.
>>>>
>>>>My mission statement is only give opinions and relate my experiences. I
>>>>will not be giving any medical advice. Therefore, the parameters should
>>>>be
>>>>similar to this newsgroup.
>>>
>>> Do you think that will deter a hungry Speaking Weasel at all? Hmm?
>>> I didn't think so.
>>
>>It might deter a negative thinker like yourself.
>
> You misspelled "realist", Steve. <g>
>
>
>>I go at 10 this AM to talk
>>to the webmaster. I have an appointment next week with a rep from Bristol
>>Meyers Squibb.
>
> Let us know what comes of it, will ya?
>
> --
> There is no such thing as limits to growth, because there are no limits
> to the human capacity for intelligence, imagination, and wonder.
> -- Ronald Reagan

I bought eight domain names yesterday. Decided to buy four more today. The
first step. The webmaster will start on my website, and it will be ready in
1-2 weeks. I will be using it as my sig line on all the 487 newsgroups I am
in. A week ago, I was only in nine. Funny how these things expand your
interests. ;-)

Steve

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TOPIC: Faux:: Your Socialist "news"
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 7:54 am
From: Patriot Games


On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:54:42 -0800, Hawke
<davesmithers@digitalpath.net> wrote:
>On
>> But your viewpoint is SOOOO FARRRRR LEFT that you think the networks are
>> close to neutral. From my point of view, FOX is just barely right of center
>> and the networks have their heads so far up the liberal butt they can't see
>> reality.
>Look. When even you admit that Fox is right of center that means
>something. You know you are not a middle of the road person but a right
>wing person. So if even someone on the right like you can see Fox is not
>what they pretend to be what do you think everyone else thinks? The fact
>is that Fox is a right wing network. The owner Rupert Murdock of the
>parent company, Newscorp, is a right wing guy. So is the head of the
>station, Roger Ailes. All the hosts are right wing and so are just about
>all the on air people. They push the Christian, family values,
>conservative line all year long.

Because that IS America, dumbass.

>So how can they not be the right wing network?

Because they accurately reflect America, which is a Christian,
family-values, slightly right of center nation.

>Like I said, I have no problem with having right wing networks
>and stations. I just want them to quit pretending they are unbiased but
>all their competitors are.

They accurately reflect America, which is a Christian, family-values,
slightly right of center nation, therefore they are NOT biased, they
are fair and balanced.

Anything left or right of them IS biased and does NOT reflect America
including ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, etc.

>They should just say they support the republican party.

They don't.

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TOPIC: Gold
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/dd0c885b2701ee87?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 7:59 am
From: "Steve B"

"Frank J Warner" <warnerf@veriSPAMMERSDIEzon.net> wrote in message
news:100320101820157778%warnerf@veriSPAMMERSDIEzon.net...
> Forgive me. I am abysmally ignorant about this.
>
> I need to know how much to pay for a small bit of gold.
>
> I'm asking for a piece, a cylinder .1875" diameter x .1875" long. Karat
> weight is negotiable: 18 karat, 24 karat. Doesn't matter. Price will
> probably differ with each, and I understand that.
>
> I can google the spot price of gold and calculate it out, but I have no
> idea how much a piece of gold this size weighs. Archimedes wasn't my
> best friend in high school.
>
> Steel prices are bad enough, and titanium, whoo boy. But I am totally
> lost when dealing with truly precious metals. Gold-mongers in my
> experience are notoriously reticent with a little thing called honesty,
> so I'd like to know what to expect as a reasonable price.
>
> Little help here? Ed? Where are you when I need you?
>
> -Frank
>
> --
> Here's some of my work:
> http://www.franksknives.com

I built a 16' trailer with a 5hp 2" pump that operated a 10' sluice. I
mined placer deposits with it along with a partner for five years. I know a
little about gold.

Gold is the easiest hustle in the world. All one has to do is flash some
gold, and everyone wants to invest. The problem is that gold comes in all
purities. The government type is .999 pure, and that is from refinement.
It does down from there. Testing for gold purity is a scientific art that
is very technical and involves specialized equipment, but that equipment is
reasonably priced. It involves a touchstone, various gold needles of
various % of gold, and some solutions, mainly acid. Read up on it.

A lot of gold that comes in placer deposits ( visible chunks like the
nuggets you see in a stream) can be formed into solid shapes, but the
impurities in it make it less valuable than pure gold. Placer runs around
70%. So, a one ounce placer nugget is only 70% gold. Pure gold is nearly
impossible to refine, that being 1,000 fine. Also called 24k. So a little
math will tell you 14k is 14/24ths gold. Chemical testing can give you a
1-1,000 rating.

Very fine scales are needed to weigh gold. A miscalculation can cost you,
or make it a real deal. Trouble is, you need to know the purity of the gold
for sure. Take no one's word for anything in today's world.

The short answer is that it is simple chemistry and math. If you can do
that, you will know how much of that blob is actually gold, compute the
weight for the spot price, and you have a guide. Also, be informed that
there are costs involved in buying and selling gold, there has to be for
people to make money on trading in it.

For me, what I am interested in is buying gold jewelry at reduced prices
from distressed sellers. That gold is relatively dependable in its karat
distinction, and a small scale and calculator will tell you the gold worth
of it. If you get into it bigtime, smelting it is no big deal to get purer
bars. Jewelry also has diamonds and precious stones in it, and often the
seller does not know the value of them if at all.

Google your ass off before you buy. Or after. The choice is yours. You
are dealing in a shady business that requires accuracy. There is also a
danger from people who buy, sell, or trade in gold unless you have a
fortress to do business in. Most transactions take place in less secure
places and are ripe for ripoffs and violence.

Take care.

Steve


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 9:42 am
From: Frank Warner


In article <4b985856$0$22513$607ed4bc@cv.net>, Ed Huntress
<huntres23@optonline.net> wrote:

> "Frank J Warner" <warnerf@veriSPAMMERSDIEzon.net> wrote in message
> news:100320101820157778%warnerf@veriSPAMMERSDIEzon.net...
> > Forgive me. I am abysmally ignorant about this.
> >
> > I need to know how much to pay for a small bit of gold.
> >
> > I'm asking for a piece, a cylinder .1875" diameter x .1875" long. Karat
> > weight is negotiable: 18 karat, 24 karat. Doesn't matter. Price will
> > probably differ with each, and I understand that.
> >
> > I can google the spot price of gold and calculate it out, but I have no
> > idea how much a piece of gold this size weighs. Archimedes wasn't my
> > best friend in high school.
> >
> > Steel prices are bad enough, and titanium, whoo boy. But I am totally
> > lost when dealing with truly precious metals. Gold-mongers in my
> > experience are notoriously reticent with a little thing called honesty,
> > so I'd like to know what to expect as a reasonable price.
> >
> > Little help here? Ed? Where are you when I need you?
> >
> > -Frank
> >
> > --
> > Here's some of my work:
> > http://www.franksknives.com
>
> If you mean *this* Ed, I'm not knowledgeable about buying gold. You want
> Harold Vardos. I haven't seen him for a while; maybe someone has his e-mail
> address.

Er, yes, sorry to have confused you with him. He helped me with a
previous question about precious metals.


> I'm working on a deadline right now, or I'd try to help more, but I can help
> you with the weight. First, gold is usually weighed in troy ounces, which
> equal approximately 31.10 grams (480 grains). The avoirdupois ounces we use
> for everything else equal 28.35 grams.
>
> The density of gold is 19.3 grams/cc. One cubic inch equals 16.387064 cc.
>
> From those equivalents, you can figure out the weight of gold you need, in
> troy ounces, avoirdupois ounces, or grams. If I wasn't busy I'd do the
> calculations.
>
> BTW, my guess is that you'll have to swage that shape yourself, from a piece
> of gold wire or whatever. That shouldn't be hard to do but you'll need a
> block of steel with a .1875 in. hole in it and a piece of steel rod of the
> same diameter -- and a hammer. <g>
>
> Good luck. I'll get back to this thread when I can and see what remains to
> be calculated.

Thanks, Ed.

-Frank

--
Here's some of my work:
http://www.franksknives.com/

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 8:45 am
From: Larry Jaques


On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:36:46 -0600, the infamous Pete Keillor
<keillorp135@chartermi.net> scrawled the following:

>On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:59:34 -0800, Larry Jaques
><ljaques@diversify.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:11:58 -0800, the infamous "Steve B"
>><deserttraver@fishymail.net> scrawled the following:
>>
>>
>>>Should I decide to download FF, is there a simple uninstall for IE8 that
>>>will kill all threads of it in my computer, or will I have popups forever?
>>
>>DO NOT TRY TO UNINSTALL ANY MICRO$OFT BROWSER, EVER!
>>
>>If you get the occasional IE8 popup, go into the Windows Explorer,
>>click the menu item Tools/Folder Options/File Types and look for links
>>to IE8 in there. Some things are IE8 only, so leave 'em. But for HTM
>>and HTML and URL types, you can safely change them.
>>
>>FF is my default browser and IE8 only comes up when _I_ want it to.
>
>Unless you're ditching windows. Then just wipe the disk and have at
>it. I have windows for Alibre Design and Corel Draw. Don't have
>another reason, now that I'm retired.

Are you dual-booting now, Pete?

--
There is no such thing as limits to growth, because there are no limits
to the human capacity for intelligence, imagination, and wonder.
-- Ronald Reagan


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 9:25 am
From: Pete Keillor


On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:45:49 -0800, Larry Jaques
<ljaques@diversify.invalid> wrote:

>On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:36:46 -0600, the infamous Pete Keillor
><keillorp135@chartermi.net> scrawled the following:
>
>>On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:59:34 -0800, Larry Jaques
>><ljaques@diversify.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:11:58 -0800, the infamous "Steve B"
>>><deserttraver@fishymail.net> scrawled the following:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Should I decide to download FF, is there a simple uninstall for IE8 that
>>>>will kill all threads of it in my computer, or will I have popups forever?
>>>
>>>DO NOT TRY TO UNINSTALL ANY MICRO$OFT BROWSER, EVER!
>>>
>>>If you get the occasional IE8 popup, go into the Windows Explorer,
>>>click the menu item Tools/Folder Options/File Types and look for links
>>>to IE8 in there. Some things are IE8 only, so leave 'em. But for HTM
>>>and HTML and URL types, you can safely change them.
>>>
>>>FF is my default browser and IE8 only comes up when _I_ want it to.
>>
>>Unless you're ditching windows. Then just wipe the disk and have at
>>it. I have windows for Alibre Design and Corel Draw. Don't have
>>another reason, now that I'm retired.
>
>Are you dual-booting now, Pete?

Nope, I run a couple windows machines and one Ubuntu. I also have
Ubuntu on one of my sons' machines. I also wipe the hard drive,
install ubuntu, and post a note with account and username info when I
set one curbside to "recycle". Usually they're gone in less than an
hour.

Pete

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TOPIC: Not Quite OT - Partially Aluminized Mylar Sheeting
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/9288170d70c52fe4?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 8:53 am
From: "chaniarts"


RAM³ wrote:
> Joe <see_real_one@sig.lin> wrote in
> news:5rtfp5lqtblhn2c0rnrpol2sqs6fde93i4@4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:52:43 -0500, "Steve W." <csr684@NOTyahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Joe wrote:
>>>> Aluminum is a metal, after all.
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking for a supplier of aluminized mylar film, just like the
>>>> "emergency blankets" you can buy in camping stores, etc, but in
>>>> roll form, so as to avoid the creases in the folded blanket
>>>> products. I want them to be only partially reflective (like the
>>>> blankets). We use them to cover over our SW-facing windows &
>>>> French door during the summer; we still are able to see out, but
>>>> the creases are sorta annoying.
>>>>
>>>> Does anybody know of a supplier of "small" quantities (maybe a few
>>>> hundred feet by 3 or 4 feet wide)? UPS shippable size is a must.
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>
>>> Reflective window tinting film. Just about any glass shop, tinting
>>> shop or even Lowes/Home Depots will have it on hand.
>>
>> True, but it's made to be adhered to the glass. I don't need the
>> adhesive properties. I just want to attach it to the sash frame (or
>> to the door face using small magnets) for easy removal in the fall..
>> And it's gotta be CHEEP! (like me)
>>
>> Joe
>
> The "adhesion" is by vacuum: you dampen the glass, press the film
> firmly against it, and squeegee out the bubbles.

maybe on some, but i can tell you from experience removing some that there's
some adhesive involved.

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TOPIC: GLOAT and brake control 101
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/9e338c61ce36e7f7?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 9:02 am
From: "Karl Townsend"


A nearly new gooseneck trailer followed me home from the auction. Its a 36'
deck over dual tandem axles, 16" truck tires, beaver tail with flip down
ramps. I could safely haul a 25,000 lb. machine using my truck.

My '93 truck has a brake controller that hasn't worked for years. And the
trailer uses a new standard for electrical connections that is not on this
truck. I went to Bumper bumper, got a female of this seven spade bullet plug
and played around enough to get running and brake lights.

One easy question, there must be a standard for this electrical coupler.
Anyone know it?

question 2. Is there any info on brake controllers and repair? Or are they
maintenance free? (just get another)

Karl


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