Re: Firefox v. Dev Plugin

Well, good luck. I've gone over to the Firefox forums and joined in
the "why the heck are you doing this" chorus, FWIW.

Greg

On Oct 3, 7:09 pm, Alan Leung <acle...@google.com> wrote:
> > What would be involved in automating the plugin build process?  Are we
> > talking Maven + Ant + shell scripting?
>
> Although they were usually minor, there are definitely changes in each
> release.
>
> I am trying to create scripts here and there but in reality, it is very hard
> automatic  upstream API changes.
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> > And actually, this was more or less the answer I wanted to hear.  The
> > post was a "why" much more than a "would you please fix".
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> > FWIW, I finally found
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> >ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/
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> > Here you can get every Firefox release, not just the "supported"
> > ones.  One of the big frustrations of all this was the inability to
> > actually get my hands on the latest supported version, once the next
> > unsupported version came out (esp. since it seemed that every time a
> > new GWT Plugin came out, there'd be a new, unsupported version of
> > Firefox out before I could get my hands on the now supported
> > version).  Having that link takes this all from a major irritation to
> > a minor one.
>
> > Greg
>
> > On Oct 3, 1:51 pm, Chris Conroy <con...@google.com> wrote:
> > > I've mentioned this in other threads, but I'll repeat here: Under the new
> > > rapid-release model, Mozilla is intentionally breaking binary
> > compatibility
> > > with xpcom components on every release. We are forced to rebuild for
> > every
> > > platform with every release.
>
> > > Our existing processes for maintaining the plugin come from a time long
> > > before this model. Due to the number of platforms that we support,
> > manually
> > > building a new release of the plugin takes a decent amount of time.
> > Mozilla
> > > has said that the binary API can change up until the official release, so
> > > that rules out attempting to start on this work early. Moreover, future
> > > updates will almost certainly have real breaking changes that could
> > require
> > > significant time to address.
>
> > > In the meantime, I would suggest running against whatever version of
> > Firefox
> > > is supported. If some version specific issue comes up that you must debug
> > > before we can get a release out, then you may just have to build the
> > plugin
> > > yourself. But, these 'major' releases are really quite minor. In
> > > all likelihood, any issue you want to debug in DevMode will surface in
> > the
> > > same way in FF6 as in FF7.
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> > > I know this isn't the answer you (or many people) want to hear, but
> > that's
> > > the reality today.
>
> > > P.S.
> > > I would advise people on this list to be cautious about downloading
> > plugin
> > > binaries from other people. It's much safer to build your own from source
> > or
> > > wait for an official release.
>
> > > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Gregory Dougherty <gregdm...@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
>
> > > > For those of us who debug our GWT apps in Firefox, and would kind of
> > > > like to keep up to date on Firefox releases, could someone from Google
> > > > give a quick rundown on why it is that each of the last three (four ?)
> > > > Firefox releases has broken the Dev Plugin, apparently each in new
> > > > ways?  Are the people working of Firefox just doing stupid things?
> > > > Does the GWT Developer Plugin just assume that it must be incompatible
> > > > with any X+1.0 release?
>
> > > > Why is it that the Developer Plugin for Firefox only seems to get
> > > > "cleared" for the current version of Firefox less than a week before
> > > > the next ("hyper critical, be sure to replace your previous version")
> > > > version comes out?
>
> > > > TIA,
>
> > > > Greg
>
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