Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

The two GWT founders, Bruce Johnson and Joel Webber, have left Google and are creating a new startup:
http://www.monetology.com/team

On Thursday, April 19, 2012 9:11:38 PM UTC+2, Supercobra Thatbytes wrote:

Obviously something is happening.

One of the first thing you do as a team lead of a project that is going to "disappear" is to remove the developer relations people and reassign team members, which both have been happening in the GWT team. David Chandler, GWT developer relations left the team (https://turbomanage.wordpress.com/) to work on Android and some GWT developers are now working on Dart as per GWT team lead Bruce Johnson (http://googlewebtoolkit.blogspot.com/2011/11/gwt-and-dart.html)

<speculation>

1. I think the GWT team is creating a Dart equivalent to GWT then will retire GWT. However talking about this would scare lots of people off so until they have something big to show and a concrete roadmap they keep silent. If GWT was dropped we would hear about but and I think we are in a transition phase.

2. Since Dart is close to Java in many ways, they could offer Dart on App Engine thus providing a complete solution, UI and backend all on Dart, which would be really cool. That would be a replacement for Java on Android which would break the java-lawsuit-leach Oracle has on Google.

</speculation>

But it's too silent out there... The community needs to be more vocal about requesting some information and the GWT team needs to be more proactive engaging with us.

On Monday, April 2, 2012 10:19:16 AM UTC-5, Joshua Kappon wrote:

With the rise of the new developers.google.com, and with Google trying to rally up developers using Google technologies and products, and the rise of Dart and unclear future of GWT, I think it's about time that Google will rethink the all "We don't and won't have a road map, and there are no release dates for new GWT versions" and embrace the GWT developers community.

What do you guys think? (if you agree, +1 this)

Best,

Josh 

On Thursday, April 19, 2012 9:11:38 PM UTC+2, Supercobra Thatbytes wrote:

Obviously something is happening.

One of the first thing you do as a team lead of a project that is going to "disappear" is to remove the developer relations people and reassign team members, which both have been happening in the GWT team. David Chandler, GWT developer relations left the team (https://turbomanage.wordpress.com/) to work on Android and some GWT developers are now working on Dart as per GWT team lead Bruce Johnson (http://googlewebtoolkit.blogspot.com/2011/11/gwt-and-dart.html)

<speculation>

1. I think the GWT team is creating a Dart equivalent to GWT then will retire GWT. However talking about this would scare lots of people off so until they have something big to show and a concrete roadmap they keep silent. If GWT was dropped we would hear about but and I think we are in a transition phase.

2. Since Dart is close to Java in many ways, they could offer Dart on App Engine thus providing a complete solution, UI and backend all on Dart, which would be really cool. That would be a replacement for Java on Android which would break the java-lawsuit-leach Oracle has on Google.

</speculation>

But it's too silent out there... The community needs to be more vocal about requesting some information and the GWT team needs to be more proactive engaging with us.

On Monday, April 2, 2012 10:19:16 AM UTC-5, Joshua Kappon wrote:

With the rise of the new developers.google.com, and with Google trying to rally up developers using Google technologies and products, and the rise of Dart and unclear future of GWT, I think it's about time that Google will rethink the all "We don't and won't have a road map, and there are no release dates for new GWT versions" and embrace the GWT developers community.

What do you guys think? (if you agree, +1 this)

Best,

Josh 

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