Re: Use Django to implement my GUI!
If you're dead set on using a non-browser GUI for the administration application, just use the HTTP Protocol for your communications between the Django Server and whatever Desktop Application you build. However, if you can just use a web browser for that (even if it's a Qt browser or something that looks like a desktop application, as others have mentioned) then your life will be a lot easier.
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Alec Taylor <alec.taylor6@gmail.com> wrote:
Duuuude
That architecture diagram shows exactly your problem.
You are thinking about this problem incorrectly.
- Server: nginx [or whatever] with Django
- Client: web-browser
- Admin: <extend> Client: web-browser
#done
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Eugène Ngontang <sympavali@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Guys!
>
> I've been busy a bit, I'm back to thread with the high level architecture.
> Attached here is a diagram, just to understand what i meant.
>
> Don't pay attention for object I use to describe modules or architecture
> components.
>
> Now you will be able to understand what I mean by the server module, the
> admin module, and the client module of my architecture.
>
> As you could see on the diagram, the admin module is installd on the
> server(where the server module is installed) and is destined to provide
> views to the GUI.
> The clients receive and send data to the server.
> When the admin make some actions, some clients are notifed, and when client
> send informations admin (GUi is notified).
>
> Now two things come in my mind when I was thinking :
>
> - First I could stay in the way I want the server to use HTTP for the admin
> side, and another protocol to communicate with client. In that way the Admin
> Module (Django) will alter and read data from data base. and the server
> module will alter and read data from database. Then each information
> retrievement will lead in reading database since informations could have
> been changed. You can that's really heavy.
>
> - Second do all things in http. Mean that my server is just a web
> application undertanding HTTP (I will the use django for that). The server
> will serve request depending on the type of request, and each client will
> communicate with the server using HTTP. Then server will define pages/urls
> for admin (to be sent to the GUI), and pages/urls for clients.
> By this way, the only relation between my modules will be the protocol (HTTP
> for the instance) and they could be implemented in what ever language we
> like. The sever will run asynchronously for admin and clients.
> The admin will then be just an interface to wich convert data to the right
> display format for the GUI. And the GUI could be any type, and for the web
> interface type I will use DJANGO for my Admin module.
> I will then also have to develop a http client for my client module.
>
> Actuallu I'm going to take the second choice, since it lets all the charge
> for read and write database to the server, which could run and publish
> informations asynchronously(websocket could help here).
>
> I precise that I'm not a web architect or designer, but i understand
> software architecture. I'm really a system and network engineer, with good
> developpement skill but not to much in web.
>
> Look now my architecture diagram and tell me if what I'm describing in the
> second item fit. And give idea if you have, about libraiies and or framwork
> that could help going fast and easy.
> I thing I will use django and green unicorn.
>
> Thanks for your attention.
>
>
>
> 2012/5/16 Alec Taylor <alec.taylor6@gmail.com>
>>
>> Oh right, it's just Pyjamas.
>>
>> Still, annoyed I didn't think to recommend it first!
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Alec Taylor <alec.taylor6@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Frank Stüss <frank.stuess@stuess.de>
>> > wrote:
>> >> or maybe you might have a look at http://pyjs.org/
>> >> which could help you having an event aware client app in your browser.
>> >> Served by and with django.
>> >
>> > I'm impressed
>> >
>> > (just read the exec summary from homepage)
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Am Sonntag, den 13.05.2012, 17:14 +0400 schrieb Alireza Savand:
>> >>> No, i posted django-tastypie not tastypie itself and it's easy to use.
>> >>> Anyway if i'm implementing GUI based i would make it website, since
>> >>> it's an advantages of SaaS.
>> >>> But using client app[desktop-app] and a server-app[django] and having
>> >>> multiply client and ... makes maintaining like a nightmare.
>> >>> All i knew was that, Despite that you asked several question and i
>> >>> just claimed to help in one of them :D
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Eugène Ngontang <sympavali@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> Yes, I can see tastypie is a good service, that even support
>> >>> REST protocol.
>> >>>
>> >>> But I'd firt basically implement my gui with django and when i
>> >>> will master well django, i could use tastypie, and turn my
>> >>> server to support REST, it will be a good thing.
>> >>>
>> >>> But please let's keep using only django for the begining.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 2012/5/13 Alireza Savand <alireza.savand@gmail.com>
>> >>> https://github.com/toastdriven/django-tastypie
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sunday, May 13, 2012 2:14:36 PM UTC+4, Eugene
>> >>> NGONTANG wrote:
>> >>> Hi!
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm a python developper, but new in django.
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm devolopping a multi clients-server
>> >>> application.
>> >>>
>> >>> The server and the clients are communicating
>> >>> via sockets, The server
>> >>> receive somme states from clients, and display
>> >>> them in the User
>> >>> interface.
>> >>> In the other hand, the server has to send a
>> >>> message(packet) to the
>> >>> client when an event occurs in the GUI, and
>> >>> data are stored in a
>> >>> database.
>> >>>
>> >>> Then I choose to make a web interface where
>> >>> data could be viewed and
>> >>> manipulated. And I discovered Django, which
>> >>> fit all my needs. I tested
>> >>> and liked the framework.
>> >>>
>> >>> My questions are:
>> >>> - Can I override the djando admin methods so
>> >>> that i can not only
>> >>> customized my views and html page, but also
>> >>> manipulate objects in
>> >>> database, so that i can do another action when
>> >>> catching an event in
>> >>> the GUi.
>> >>> For example, taking the django admin tutorial,
>> >>> I would like to do and
>> >>> action like sending a message the user choose
>> >>> "add a poll". How can I
>> >>> do those things? Cause I noticed that method
>> >>> that alter data in data
>> >>> base are part of django admin module and
>> >>> cannot be overriden
>> >>>
>> >>> - To achieve what I want, i would like to run
>> >>> my server engine and my
>> >>> django admin in two separated threads. How do
>> >>> i run my admin module in
>> >>> a thread? Cause till now i'm using the command
>> >>> line "python manage.py
>> >>> runserver"
>> >>>
>> >>> - I also tried to overide tables name, and
>> >>> foreign keys names. Could
>> >>> you guys provide me a true life example?
>> >>>
>> >>> - And now in the production step, I would like
>> >>> you guys to tell me
>> >>> what to choose for serving files. I would like
>> >>> to with your experience
>> >>> what's better between running a unicorn server
>> >>> or apache with mod_wsgi
>> >>>
>> >>> I don't know if i'm clear, but i hope. In
>> >>> brief I'd like to use the
>> >>> django framework features to design my Gui
>> >>> like i want, customize
>> >>> interactions between the gui and the backend,
>> >>> and choose a good web
>> >>> server for the production.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thank you for advance
>> >>>
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