Re: Python shell doesn't launch

On Dec 26, 2012 7:46 PM, <rkturn49@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You know what? I didn't "expect" anything because I HAVEN'T DONE THIS BEFORE!!!! That is why I am doing an introductory tutorial. Thanks, Ramiro - highly intelligent answer. Ryan - you are a professional.

Wait. Why do you assume I was trying to troll you?. I'm not a native
english speaker and my question was honest and to the point, even if
terse.

But now you've made me think:

One of the basic things repeated many many times in our field (I think
it must have been so in the last decade) when it come to ask smart and
effective question is to state not only what are the results you get but
also what did you expect. How do you think we will be able to help you
if you don't tell us what were your expectations?

In the end, this might come to this sentence in part one of the official
tutorial (that I assume is the one you are following) when talking about
running manage.py shell:

"Now, let's hop into the interactive Python shell and play around with
the free API Django gives you. To invoke the Python shell, use this
command:

python manage.py shell
"

( https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.4/intro/tutorial01/#playing-with-the-api )

Personally I think people should not learn Python and Django at the same
time. In this way, having some Python familiarity will mean at this
point the reader will know at what the 'interactive Python shell' is.
Because it's beautifully explained in the most basic official Python
tutorial:

http://docs.python.org/2/tutorial/interpreter.html#interactive-mode

(it even has an example output very similar to the seemingly confusing
output you pasted in your first post).

This is the second thread in which my impression is that you'd be less
frustrated if you took the time to make yourself comfortable with the
basic Python concepts first.

Regards,

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