[android-developers] Re: single device development scenario with questions

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 00:06:53 -0400
Kristopher Micinski <krismicinski@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:42 PM, rh <richard_hubbe11@lavabit.com>
> wrote:
> > On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 19:33:00 -0700 (PDT)
> > Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> rh wrote:
> >>
> >> > George Baker wrote:
> >> > > In order to make a calendar app you should need to even have to
> >> > > worry about the source for the Android OS. What you will need
> >> > > is the Android SDK which you can get at
> >> > > http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html, You'll want to
> >> > > look towards the bottom of the page under download for other
> >> > > platforms
> >> > > - SDK Tools only. You will also need a copy of JAVA 1.6.
> >> >
> >> > Yes I did get these already. But I still need to learn how to
> >> > remove apps that I don't need and in my dabbling I wasn't able to
> >> > remove
> >> >
> >>
> >> adb uninstall <package>
> >
> > Tried that but adb gives
> > Failure
> > echo $?
> > 0
> >
> > tried many different package names, all failed with the same
> > error, even nonsense package names. But maybe I didn't find
> > the correct secret name.
> >
>
> FYI it's impossible to uninstall a system app, so it's no use even
> trying. If you are one of the many users with a stock ROM from some
> provider, chances are you won't be able to remove their custom
> bloatware without rooting your phone and installing some mod. (This
> is a potentially good idea for other reasons as well: much of that
> custom bloatware is overprovisioned and contains potential exploits..)

This is what I thought. Is it possible to take ownership of my hardware,
(a.k.a. "root") with standard tools? I know there's an update.zip file
that can be loaded from sdcard. Can I build an update.zip using the
sdk, etc.?

It is interesting that people so willingly toss out their stock roms for a
rom from who-knows-where. Potentially trading bad for worse.
I read that their are some proprietary blobs that still have to be used
for the radio, video, etc.

Where is the protection system for the vendor rom implemented? Is
it in the kernel or is it in firmware? Or ??

From the provider's point of view I can understand preventing
the owner of the phone from shooting themselves in the foot. But
they should let those who are willing to risk losing a foot access
the device freely and easily. And the providers seem to have abused
the privilege they've been granted by installing too much crap.
Thanks for the read/reply.

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