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Today's topics:

* To whoever hacked into my Database - 22 messages, 7 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/1459c9bdf9ab0ada?hl=en
* Show off your Python chops and compete with others - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/256bed43f2700a17?hl=en
* Algorithm that makes maximum compression of completly diffused data. - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/cf4b4e4ba592ec63?hl=en
* pywin32 programming error on Win7 with shell.SHGetDesktopFolder, desktop.
BindToObject, desktop.GetDisplayNameOf - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/65acf69c88845011?hl=en
* PyDev 3.0 Released - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/38d3ec323829e80e?hl=en

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TOPIC: To whoever hacked into my Database
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/1459c9bdf9ab0ada?hl=en
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== 1 of 22 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 8 2013 1:06 am
From: Mark Lawrence



On 07/11/2013 21:45, Joel Goldstick wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I think the hacker is a figment of Nick's imagination, or rather a
>>> consequence of his broken python code corrupting his data.
>>
>> Unless the Python installation on Nikos' system has become self-aware
>> and is actively objecting to his code, I think that messages like
>> "Read a manual" and "Learn to code" inserted into a database (as seen
>> in the images that Nikos linked earlier) would normally suggest a
>> hacker.
>> --
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>
> but... a very polite hacker
>

My highly trained team were all brought up to be extremely polite.

--
Python is the second best programming language in the world.
But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer

Mark Lawrence





== 2 of 22 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 8 2013 1:12 am
From: Mark Lawrence



On 07/11/2013 23:10, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
>
> I will improve on linux and python scripting over time, day by day....

No you won't!!! Everytime you're offered advice on best practice you
state that you want to do it differently.

--
Python is the second best programming language in the world.
But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer

Mark Lawrence





== 3 of 22 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 8 2013 1:19 am
From: Mark Lawrence



On 08/11/2013 08:59, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
> Στις 8/11/2013 10:31 πμ, ο/η Chris Angelico έγραψε:
>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος
>> <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Fortunately for me they have all failed.
>>> That means that i have *actually* made security of my scripts stronger.
>>>
>>> Now whoever called me incompetent should think again before he
>>> accused me of
>>> so. :-)
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubris
>>
>> ChrisA
>>
>
>
> I have said this not out of arrogance but to shut some mounts calling me
> complete incompetent.

Ignoring the bit about shutting mounts, which shows how much effort you
ever put into anything that you post, actually here I agree with you.
But don't get too excited, it's only because "completely" isn't a strong
enough adjective to use for your level of incompetence.

--
Python is the second best programming language in the world.
But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer

Mark Lawrence





== 4 of 22 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 8 2013 1:15 am
From: Mark Lawrence



On 08/11/2013 01:32, alex23 wrote:
> On 8/11/2013 7:39 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
>> Unless the Python installation on Nikos' system has become self-aware
>> and is actively objecting to his code, I think that messages like
>> "Read a manual" and "Learn to code" inserted into a database (as seen
>> in the images that Nikos linked earlier) would normally suggest a
>> hacker.
>
> I just assumed he'd written himself a to-do app and couldn't be bothered
> with the hussle of creating a separate table to store its items.
>

Made my day :)

--
Python is the second best programming language in the world.
But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer

Mark Lawrence





== 5 of 22 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 8 2013 1:34 am
From: Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος


Στις 8/11/2013 11:15 πμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
> On 08/11/2013 01:32, alex23 wrote:
>> On 8/11/2013 7:39 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
>>> Unless the Python installation on Nikos' system has become self-aware
>>> and is actively objecting to his code, I think that messages like
>>> "Read a manual" and "Learn to code" inserted into a database (as seen
>>> in the images that Nikos linked earlier) would normally suggest a
>>> hacker.
>>
>> I just assumed he'd written himself a to-do app and couldn't be bothered
>> with the hussle of creating a separate table to store its items.
>>
>
> Made my day :)
>


And if you jump over a bridge it would make my day!




== 6 of 22 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 8 2013 1:37 am
From: Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος


Στις 8/11/2013 11:19 πμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
> On 08/11/2013 08:59, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
>> Στις 8/11/2013 10:31 πμ, ο/η Chris Angelico έγραψε:
>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος
>>> <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Fortunately for me they have all failed.
>>>> That means that i have *actually* made security of my scripts stronger.
>>>>
>>>> Now whoever called me incompetent should think again before he
>>>> accused me of
>>>> so. :-)
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubris
>>>
>>> ChrisA
>>>
>>
>>
>> I have said this not out of arrogance but to shut some mounts calling me
>> complete incompetent.
>
> Ignoring the bit about shutting mounts, which shows how much effort you
> ever put into anything that you post, actually here I agree with you.
> But don't get too excited, it's only because "completely" isn't a strong
> enough adjective to use for your level of incompetence.
>


You wouldn't be able to write the scripts i have written.
All you do is criticize me, but you never ever have posted code to
anything i have asked.

Perhaps you can't even write a simpel script




== 7 of 22 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 8 2013 1:39 am
From: Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος


Στις 8/11/2013 11:19 πμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
> On 08/11/2013 08:59, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
>> Στις 8/11/2013 10:31 πμ, ο/η Chris Angelico έγραψε:
>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος
>>> <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Fortunately for me they have all failed.
>>>> That means that i have *actually* made security of my scripts stronger.
>>>>
>>>> Now whoever called me incompetent should think again before he
>>>> accused me of
>>>> so. :-)
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubris
>>>
>>> ChrisA
>>>
>>
>>
>> I have said this not out of arrogance but to shut some mounts calling me
>> complete incompetent.
>
> Ignoring the bit about shutting mounts, which shows how much effort you
> ever put into anything that you post, actually here I agree with you.
> But don't get too excited, it's only because "completely" isn't a strong
> enough adjective to use for your level of incompetence.
>


You wouldn't be able to write the scripts i have written.
All you do is criticize me, but you never ever have posted code to
anything i have asked.

Perhaps you can't even write a simple script.




== 8 of 22 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 8 2013 1:52 am
From: Chris Angelico


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Íßêïò Áëåîüðïõëïò <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> wrote:
> Óôéò 8/11/2013 11:15 ðì, ï/ç Mark Lawrence Ýãñáøå:
>> Made my day :)
>
> And if you jump over a bridge it would make my day!

Mar-Kal El-awrence! Able to leap tall bridges in a single bound, more
powerful than a steaming (and fuming) Greek webmaster, the Man of
Silicon, BREAMOREBOY!

ChrisA
just finished watching this year's "Man of Steel" movie, and was
disappointed despite low expectations




== 9 of 22 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 8 2013 1:52 am
From: Mark Lawrence



On 08/11/2013 09:34, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
> Στις 8/11/2013 11:15 πμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
>> On 08/11/2013 01:32, alex23 wrote:
>>> On 8/11/2013 7:39 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
>>>> Unless the Python installation on Nikos' system has become self-aware
>>>> and is actively objecting to his code, I think that messages like
>>>> "Read a manual" and "Learn to code" inserted into a database (as seen
>>>> in the images that Nikos linked earlier) would normally suggest a
>>>> hacker.
>>>
>>> I just assumed he'd written himself a to-do app and couldn't be bothered
>>> with the hussle of creating a separate table to store its items.
>>>
>>
>> Made my day :)
>>
>
>
> And if you jump over a bridge it would make my day!

I feel no need to jump but thank you anyway. When your customers start
taking legal action for you exposing their data, and when I start
visiting your web site and demanding data on my usage which you must
provide in accordance with EU law, then I'm hoping that you'll be kind
enough to us do this favour and jump. Failing that the blow lamp and
piece of iron are still available, I just wish they'd been used months
ago. No, I withdraw that last comment, the previous months have led to
some of the funniest threads I've ever seen on this list, and you've
been at the heart of them. Thank you for making me laugh my socks off.

--
Python is the second best programming language in the world.
But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer

Mark Lawrence





== 10 of 22 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 8 2013 1:58 am
From: Mark Lawrence



On 08/11/2013 09:37, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
>
> You wouldn't be able to write the scripts i have written.
> All you do is criticize me, but you never ever have posted code to
> anything i have asked.
>
> Perhaps you can't even write a simpel script

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will
still be ugly. Winston Churchill.

--
Python is the second best programming language in the world.
But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer

Mark Lawrence





== 11 of 22 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 8 2013 1:55 am
From: Mark Lawrence



On 08/11/2013 09:39, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
>
> You wouldn't be able to write the scripts i have written.
> All you do is criticize me, but you never ever have posted code to
> anything i have asked.
>
> Perhaps you can't even write a simple script.

That's again correct. Everytime a question gets asked on the tutor
mailing list, I read about it in the manuals, something that to my
knowledge you've never done, then I post a reply. I never reply to you
as I've no expertise in using Python on web sites, plus it's a waste of
time as you ignore the advice anyway.

--
Python is the second best programming language in the world.
But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer

Mark Lawrence





== 12 of 22 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 8 2013 1:59 am
From: Joel Goldstick


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 4:58 AM, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 08/11/2013 09:37, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
>>
>>
>> You wouldn't be able to write the scripts i have written.
>> All you do is criticize me, but you never ever have posted code to
>> anything i have asked.
>>
>> Perhaps you can't even write a simpel script
>
>
> I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still
> be ugly. Winston Churchill.
>
isn't that ulgy?
>
> --
> Python is the second best programming language in the world.
> But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer
>
> Mark Lawrence
>
> --
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list



--
Joel Goldstick
http://joelgoldstick.com




== 13 of 22 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 8 2013 2:00 am
From: Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος


Στις 8/11/2013 11:52 πμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
> On 08/11/2013 09:34, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
>> Στις 8/11/2013 11:15 πμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
>>> On 08/11/2013 01:32, alex23 wrote:
>>>> On 8/11/2013 7:39 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
>>>>> Unless the Python installation on Nikos' system has become self-aware
>>>>> and is actively objecting to his code, I think that messages like
>>>>> "Read a manual" and "Learn to code" inserted into a database (as seen
>>>>> in the images that Nikos linked earlier) would normally suggest a
>>>>> hacker.
>>>>
>>>> I just assumed he'd written himself a to-do app and couldn't be
>>>> bothered
>>>> with the hussle of creating a separate table to store its items.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Made my day :)
>>>
>>
>>
>> And if you jump over a bridge it would make my day!
>
> I feel no need to jump but thank you anyway. When your customers start
> taking legal action for you exposing their data, and when I start
> visiting your web site and demanding data on my usage which you must
> provide in accordance with EU law, then I'm hoping that you'll be kind
> enough to us do this favour and jump. Failing that the blow lamp and
> piece of iron are still available, I just wish they'd been used months
> ago. No, I withdraw that last comment, the previous months have led to
> some of the funniest threads I've ever seen on this list, and you've
> been at the heart of them. Thank you for making me laugh my socks off.
>


I have never exposed my client's data. Prove otherwise.

The only legal action that will happen will take place in your
Asperger's Syndrome sick imagination.




== 14 of 22 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 8 2013 2:00 am
From: Mark Lawrence



On 08/11/2013 09:52, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Íßêïò Áëåîüðïõëïò <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Óôéò 8/11/2013 11:15 ðì, ï/ç Mark Lawrence Ýãñáøå:
>>> Made my day :)
>>
>> And if you jump over a bridge it would make my day!
>
> Mar-Kal El-awrence! Able to leap tall bridges in a single bound, more
> powerful than a steaming (and fuming) Greek webmaster, the Man of
> Silicon, BREAMOREBOY!
>
> ChrisA
> just finished watching this year's "Man of Steel" movie, and was
> disappointed despite low expectations
>

Thank you for shouting out the name of the village that's at *THE*
center of *THE* universe :)

--
Python is the second best programming language in the world.
But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer

Mark Lawrence





== 15 of 22 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 8 2013 2:05 am
From: Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος


Στις 8/11/2013 11:55 πμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
> On 08/11/2013 09:39, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
>>
>> You wouldn't be able to write the scripts i have written.
>> All you do is criticize me, but you never ever have posted code to
>> anything i have asked.
>>
>> Perhaps you can't even write a simple script.
>
> That's again correct. Everytime a question gets asked on the tutor
> mailing list, I read about it in the manuals, something that to my
> knowledge you've never done, then I post a reply. I never reply to you
> as I've no expertise in using Python on web sites, plus it's a waste of
> time as you ignore the advice anyway.
>


I never ignore advices.
I read all answers as carefully as i can.
But nevertheless sometimes i feel things should have been better
implemented using my way.

Not of course that i know better, but thats better suited for me in the
level iam.




== 16 of 22 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 8 2013 2:09 am
From: Chris Angelico


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 08/11/2013 09:52, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> Mar-Kal El-awrence! Able to leap tall bridges in a single bound, more
>> powerful than a steaming (and fuming) Greek webmaster, the Man of
>> Silicon, BREAMOREBOY!
>
> Thank you for shouting out the name of the village that's at *THE* center of
> *THE* universe :)

I've no idea where that village is - or even that it's a village - all
I did was take your superhero name from your email address. :)

ChrisA




== 17 of 22 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 8 2013 2:13 am
From: Chris Angelico


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:05 PM, Íßêïò Áëåîüðïõëïò <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> wrote:
> I never ignore advices.
> I read all answers as carefully as i can.
> But nevertheless sometimes i feel things should have been better implemented
> using my way.
>
> Not of course that i know better, but thats better suited for me in the
> level iam.

Nikos: "How can I use a hammer to put in screws?"
Us: "Use a screwdriver instead."
Nikos: "But I want to use a hammer! Why does my house fall apart? I
used screws, they're supposed to be better!"

ChrisA




== 18 of 22 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 8 2013 3:08 am
From: Maarten


On Friday, November 8, 2013 11:00:54 AM UTC+1, Ferrous Cranus wrote:

> I have never exposed my client's data. Prove otherwise.

'Hackers' enter your database. How is that not exposing client's data? Or is this just your development machine? That would prove you learnt at least something here.

Judging from the questions and the code quality you post here, it is only a matter of time before accidents happen.

Maarten




== 19 of 22 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 8 2013 5:12 am
From: Tim Delaney


On 8 November 2013 21:00, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have never exposed my client's data. Prove otherwise.
>

https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2013-June/648550.html

Or don't you consider giving the root password for a server containing
client data to a complete stranger to be "exposing" that data?

Tim Delaney




== 20 of 22 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 8 2013 5:27 am
From: Antoon Pardon


Op 08-11-13 11:05, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος schreef:
>
> I never ignore advices.

I doubt that. You have too often come back with the same
question some time after it was answered a previous time
for this to be credible.

> I read all answers as carefully as i can.

Then your reading skills leave much to be desired.

> But nevertheless sometimes i feel things should have been better
> implemented using my way.

That is ignoring advice. Implementing things in a way that goes against
the advice of those who know better, is what people mean by "ignoring
advice"

> Not of course that i know better, but thats better suited for me in the
> level iam.

Faulty code is better suited for the level you are in?

--
Antoon Pardon





== 21 of 22 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 8 2013 5:30 am
From: Mark Lawrence



On 08/11/2013 10:00, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
>
>
> I have never exposed my client's data. Prove otherwise.

If your site has successfully been hacked *TWICE* then by definition
your clients data has been exposed. Didn't you also hand out your
password, that's really secure, isn't it?

>
> The only legal action that will happen will take place in your
> Asperger's Syndrome sick imagination.

I must be winning as you've now had to resort to insults. I assume that
you're jealous because my "Asperger Syndrome sick" mind knows what
"TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not iterable" actually means. You
couldn't work it out despite Steven D'Aprano literally spelling it out
in words of one syllable or less.

--
Python is the second best programming language in the world.
But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer

Mark Lawrence





== 22 of 22 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 8 2013 5:31 am
From: Mark Lawrence



On 08/11/2013 10:05, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
>
> I never ignore advices.
> I read all answers as carefully as i can.
> But nevertheless sometimes i feel things should have been better
> implemented using my way.

The only relational database that has no relationships as effectively
there's only one table, despite what Denis McMahon (amongst others?) has
said.

>
> Not of course that i know better, but thats better suited for me in the
> level iam.

And better suited to your customers as you've never exposed their data
have you? Apart from...

--
Python is the second best programming language in the world.
But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer

Mark Lawrence






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TOPIC: Show off your Python chops and compete with others
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/256bed43f2700a17?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 8 2013 1:23 am
From: Mark Lawrence



On 08/11/2013 02:18, Roy Smith wrote:
> In article <l5hh32$qf4$1@dont-email.me>, alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/11/2013 11:54 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
>>> Dead code doesn't count.
>>
>> Neither do shifting goalposts.
>
> It's not a shifting goalpost. My original statement was that:
>
> def foo():
> raise Exception
>
> defines a function which 1) has no explicit return statement and 2) does
> not return None. I stand by that statement. There is no possible
> codepath, no possible calling sequence, no possible execution
> environment, which will cause that function to return None. That fact
> that one particular Python implementation happens to produce unreachable
> bytecode for returning None is meaningless. Would you say that:
>
> def baz():
> return None
> print "I got here"
>
> is a function which prints "I got here"?
>

Game, set and match to Roy Smith? :)

--
Python is the second best programming language in the world.
But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer

Mark Lawrence






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TOPIC: Algorithm that makes maximum compression of completly diffused data.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/cf4b4e4ba592ec63?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 7 2013 11:21 pm
From: Chris Angelico


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Gregory Ewing
<greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> wrote:
> You've got me thinking now about how viable a compression
> scheme this would be, efficiency issues aside. I suppose
> it would depend on things like the average density of primes
> and the average number of prime factors a number has.
> Any number theorists here?

Start by coming up with an efficient storage representation for the
primes. Don't forget that you can't use a bitfield, because eg 98 =
7*7*2, so you somehow need to represent that the 7 comes up twice. And
you can't limit the size of your primes (eg by representing 98 as
"\x07\x07\x02").

And that's without dealing with the major issue of _finding_ prime
factors for a large number.

ChrisA





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TOPIC: pywin32 programming error on Win7 with shell.SHGetDesktopFolder,
desktop.BindToObject, desktop.GetDisplayNameOf
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/65acf69c88845011?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 8 2013 1:47 am
From: Tim Golden


On 08/11/2013 03:30, iMath wrote:
>
> When running the following code on WinXP , all is fine ,
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> from win32com.shell import shell
>
> def launch_file_explorer(path, files):
>
> folder_pidl = shell.SHILCreateFromPath(path,0)[0]
> desktop = shell.SHGetDesktopFolder()
> shell_folder = desktop.BindToObject(folder_pidl, None,shell.IID_IShellFolder)
> name_to_item_mapping = dict([(desktop.GetDisplayNameOf(item, 0), item) for item in shell_folder])
> to_show = []
> for file in files:
> if file not in name_to_item_mapping:
> raise Exception('File: "{}" not found in "{}"'.format(file, path))
> to_show.append(name_to_item_mapping[file])
> shell.SHOpenFolderAndSelectItems(folder_pidl, to_show, 0)
> import os
>
>
> p=r'E:\aa'
> print(os.listdir(p))
> launch_file_explorer(p, os.listdir(p))


Did you mean to call .GetDisplayNameOf against the desktop folder? I
would have thought you wanted shell_folder.GetDisplayNameOf(item, 0).

TJG






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TOPIC: PyDev 3.0 Released
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/38d3ec323829e80e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 8 2013 2:39 am
From: Fabio Zadrozny


Hi,

What you get from LiClipse which you don't have on Eclipse+PyDev is:

- Lightweight support for other languages (i.e.: there's an editor which
provides highlighting, outline and other goodies which supports multiple
languages such as Django Templates, Mako, Javascript, Html, etc. -- and it
should be easy to add other DSLs too).

- Improved themeing (it extends eclipse color theme to theme not only the
editor, but other parts of the ide).

- Multi-edition (i.e.: Ctrl+K will create links for multi edition or
alternatively you can Ctrl+Alt+mouse select to select multiple lines to
edit at once)

- Things are pre-configured (i.e.: it provides a native installer which
bundles a jre and other common plugins such as anyedit, startexplorer,
egit...)

So, currently those are the advantages -- still, as you noted, PyDev is the
same on both cases :)

Cheers,

Fabio


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:14 AM, flebber <flebber.crue@gmail.com> wrote:

> I see the main difference between Liclipes and Eclipse+Pydev being
> lightweight and Loclipse preconfigured to a degree.
>
> Moving forward what advantages would I get by buying Liclipes over Eclipse?
>
> Sayh
> --
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>




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