Re: [Rails] Design

Hello;

Great post from Conrad ! Thanks !

I have also been using textmate to do the HTML and CSS but started using the Adobe products lately which speeds things up quite a bit. Agile development turns non agile once you're finished with the modeling and all the back end biz if you're not using a good tool for the presentation layer.

I found out that there was an extension for DW once which enabled you to edit all ruby files within DW including code completion support but I couldn't get it to work with the latest release.

K.Pince

On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Conrad Taylor <conradwt@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Peter De Berdt <peter.de.berdt@pandora.be> wrote:

If you want a performant, well structured and easy to maintain web application, you HAVE to put it together with some kind of text editor. And in fact, just using TextMate and it's autocompletion and macros, everyone who has decent HTML+CSS knowledge will be able to assemble a well designed page very quickly, whether you start from a Photoshop mockup or not. Any dedicated and respected web agency these days "handcodes" their designs.

But hey, if table-based design or table-based design where <tr> is replaced with <div> is your kind of thing, go ahead and use Dreamweaver, Frontpage or Microsoft Word. You're going to hit a concrete wall when you actually have to make those designs dynamic (with any web app language for that matter) and your pages will have more body than most ppl who had Thanksgiving yesterday.

Peter, I tend to use Fireworks CS4 to slice up the PSD to generate HTML, CSS, and images.  This gives me the initial cut of the design in HTML and CSS.  Then I'll use both Dreamweaver CS4 and Textmate.  Dreamweaver has embedded the WebKit engine so that I can see the changes to my site code without opening a browser.  Thus, I tend to do most of the CSS and HTML in it.  Next, I use Textmate mostly for the RoR and Ruby specific things because Dreamweaver provides the ability to invoke Textmate from DW.

In short, I use the best tool(s) for the job and I haven't hit any walls but leveraged other toolsets.

-Conrad

On 27 Nov 2009, at 10:38, Kemal Pince wrote:

If you want to have fancy looking web pages (and customers do, by the way) it takes too long to get it together with a text editor.

On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Hassan Schroeder <hassan.schroeder@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Kemal Pince <rails.kp@gmail.com> wrote:

> I wonder what you guys out there are using to generate the extra html and
> css to make your web pages look great once you have the backbone of the app
> up and running with RoR ?

Uh, a "text editor"?  :-)

Best regards

Peter De Berdt

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