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TOPIC: O.T. Toyota accelerator pics and explanations
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 8 2010 10:32 pm
From: cavelamb

Don Foreman wrote:
>
What
> the hell, today is my 68th birthday, I'm a certified oldfart.
>
>
>

And I'm woosie having problems facing 60.

Richard Lamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 8 2010 10:34 pm
From: cavelamb

Pete Keillor wrote:

> Yup, happy birthday! I was talking to Dad yesterday. He commented
> that Mrs. Wollam he figured was maybe mid 60 ish had her 78th
> birthday. I replied "Well damn, Dad, oldest sister turns 63 and I
> turn 60 this year. You just had your 90th. How did you figure she
> was in her 60's?" He said yeah, it was her hair dye. Of course, 77
> might look pretty good when you're 90.
>
> He also said he's been recruiting some of those 70 + youngsters to
> play dominos. His domino crowd keeps getting thinned out, so they
> need "new" blood.
>
> Pete Keillor

70 NEVER looks good.
Even if we pass 80, it's the 24 year olds that look good.
The 70's are just what you can catch...

Richard Lamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 8 2010 11:07 pm
From: Don Foreman

On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:08:12 -0500, Wes <clutch@lycos.com> wrote:

>Don Foreman <dforeman@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> wrote:
>
>>What
>>the hell, today is my 68th birthday, I'm a certified oldfart.
>
>But you are young in spirit. That is what counts.
>
>Happy Birthday!
>
Thanks! I was thinkin' about those Toyota technicians working under
the dash on the accelerators all day. Man, I'm glad I don't have to
do that. My body hurts just thinkin' about it.

I am thinking about trying some IDPA match shooting. My old friend
and colleague Jack is too, so we may egg each other on. It looks like
it might be a lot of fun, and after watching some Youtube videos I
think I could try it without embarrassing myself too badly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAT4QPrHy0c

Shoot, I could do that, it looks like a lot of fun and a level of
physical activity that I could handle and enjoy. The guy in the video
certainly does display outstanding muzzle control as in recoil
management. As the HR direktorchik might say, I may have a growth
opportunity in that regard. I don't know what I look like when
shooting. I do tend to hit my targets but good recoil control helps to
deliver fire on target more rapidly and time is a factor in IDPA.
All I'd need to buy would be an inexpensive holster and a carry
garment or vest. I'm not real good at deliberate slowfire bullseye
shooting with handguns because when I focus on the front sight the
target is a vague blur to these old eyes, but I'm not half bad at
pointed rapid fire of respectable calibers at tactical-type targets at
tactical ranges of 25 yards and less. I need to work on longer ranges.
Jack is amazing at ranges out to 100 yards with handgun.

Don't judge the guy in the video for his clumsy performance in
changing magazines until you've tried it. I made that part of my
practice last summer. It's not difficult to get it quick and sure but
it definitely does take some practice with each particular handgun.

I'm pretty sure I'd be the oldest guy there and Jack would be the
second oldest.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 8 2010 11:11 pm
From: Joe Pfeiffer

Don Foreman <dforeman@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> writes:

> On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:08:58 -0800, Winston <Winston@bigbrother.net>
> wrote:
>
>>On 2/8/2010 10:13 AM, Don Foreman wrote:
>>
>>(...)
>>
>>> My wife's Corolla has a neat safety feature. There's a footpedal on
>>> the floor to the left of the brake pedal. Depressing this pedal
>>> disconnects the engine from the drive train!
>>
>>That is nifty!
>>
>>Say Don -- I always wondered what that funny little lever was that
>>sticks out of the left side of the steering column.
>>I bumped it once and there was flashing lights and a ticking sound!
>>
>>Scared the crap out of me.
>>
>>--Winston
>
> About a decade ago I went to pick up my first hearing aids. When
> starting to drive back home, I noted a clacking sound. Oh swell, I'm
> 25 miles from home, what's busted? Noted that the clacking did not
> seem related to vehicle speed (so not CV joints) nor to engine speed.
> Hm? When I completed my turn onto the road out of the parking lot,
> the clacking stopped. It was the turn signal. I'd had that car for 5
> years and had never heard the turn signal.

Did you spend the entire five years with the turn signal blinking? :)
--
As we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should
be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours;
and this we should do freely and generously. (Benjamin Franklin)

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 12:06 am
From: Don Foreman

On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:32:13 -0600, cavelamb <cavelamb@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>Don Foreman wrote:
>>
> What
>> the hell, today is my 68th birthday, I'm a certified oldfart.
>>
>>
>>
>
>And I'm woosie having problems facing 60.

The only thing that matters is what you are able to do vs what you
might want or aspire to do. Surprises do happen and they get more
likely with advancing age.

Perhaps it's time for you to sail on a voyage?

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TOPIC: Running compressor "too slowly"
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 8 2010 10:34 pm
From: Ignoramus30280

On 2010-02-09, Buerste <buerste@wowway.com> wrote:
>
> "Gunner Asch" <gunnerasch@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> Just keep in mind Im living on PST...and dont do "early" very well, but
>> I live in "late". <G>

I am the same way.

> You're just saying that 'cuz I woke you guys up at some ungodly hour on a
> Sunday morning. I STILL feel bad about that! I keep forgetting about that
> pesky time-zone thing.

My solution to pesky early morning phone calls, is that I installed a
"whole house phone switch", and when I flip it, landlines are turned
off. (and for those wishing to lecture me on safety, we have cell
phones)

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TOPIC: OT-Social Security $28 billion in the hole
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 8 2010 10:36 pm
From: cavelamb

>> LMFAO
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stefan-sirucek/did-palin-use-crib-notes_b_452458.html
>
> It was funny. What was especially funny is that all she had on her hand was
> a few words about three core subject areas (apparently for the Q&A period;
> she spoke from prepared notes). If she needs a prompt to remember them, then
> wha??
>
> Oh, well. This is a nutty thing going on with the Tea Party and Sarah Palin.
> I'm trying to back away from it emotionally and just look at the phenomenon
> itself. Populist anger is good; Jefferson was right about that. One hopes
> that the phenomenon follows the rest of his prescription: that they figure
> out what it is they want, and how to accomplish it. That's where the Tea
> Party is going to run into trouble. They're going to find out about the law
> of unintended consequences.
>

I doubt it, Ed.
the playing field has become entirely too complex.

Richard Lamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/

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TOPIC: 50 Emergency Uses for Your Camera Phone
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 8 2010 10:37 pm
From: Gerald Miller

On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:07:39 -0500, Wes <clutch@lycos.com> wrote:

>Richard J Kinch <kinch@truetex.com> wrote:
>
>>Right, now we'll just document every little thing in life, even though it
>>will have zero affect on the future. Tailor made for neurotics. Didn't we
>>hear this about camcorders in the 1980s? And don't forget to back up and
>>alphabetize those photos!
>
>
>Actually a digicam looping a mpg powered by my car could be very helpful. Especially if I
>could conceal having it if it isn't helpful ;)
>
>Seriously, I've had some jerks pull out in front of me that if traction was a bit poorer,
>I'd have hit from behind. A record in progress would be priceless in that case.
>
>Wes
Second son has his "Van Cam" a web cam centered out the windshield
feeding his laptop working as GPS which sits on a pedestal beside the
shifter.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

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TOPIC: OT- Product Of The YEAR! -Somebody Should Get A Nobel Prize For This-
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 8 2010 10:46 pm
From: "JosephKK"

On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:27:40 +0000, David Billington <djb@djbillington.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>Ed Huntress wrote:
>> "Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
>> news:00ea4fb5$0$17131$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>
>>> On 7/02/2010 5:45 AM, Jon Anderson wrote:
>>>
>>>> T wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Interesting. A little disorienting, not used to driving on the other
>>>>> side of the road!
>>>>>
>>>> It's not that hard at first, so long as you focus and pay attention.
>>>> It's right when you think you've got it, that you'll pull out into the
>>>> wrong side of the road...
>>>>
>>> Or, as seems likely to have happened to a US couple on holiday here in
>>> Australia in a case reported on the news a while back, look the wrong way
>>> before pulling out in front of a truck :(
>>>
>>> Sylvia.
>>>
>>
>> Terror for an American driver is a roundabout in Britain. As I approach one,
>> my palms begin to sweat. Then my head begins to ache. Traffic diagrams
>> appear in my head. I bite my lip...
>>
>>
>What does this do for you then
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/wiltshire/content/image_galleries/wiltshire_live_search_gallery.shtml?15
>, Swindons "Magic Roundabout". I've not driven it recently but I
>understand it can still give drivers used to roundabouts a problem.

The last thing we need, recursive roundabouts.

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TOPIC: Douchebagger Libtards
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 8 2010 11:09 pm
From: Hawke

Buerste wrote:
>
> "Hawke" <davesmithers@digitalpath.net> wrote in message
> news:hko2be$528$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>> Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>>> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:41:25 -0800, "Steve B"
>>> <deserttraver@fishmail.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Gunner Asch" <gunnerasch@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:b46um5dgq6r647bvju027a1cu410tje864@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:37:06 -0800 (PST), Kevin Cunningham
>>>>> <smskjc@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 7, 7:57 am, "Buerste" <buer...@wowway.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Douchebagger Libtards...kinda' says it all.
>>>>>> Can't stand it can you? You racist come up with a nice little racist
>>>>>> group, call it something cool.....and it all falls apart. Darn
>>>>>> liberals!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course we liberals didn't do a thing, we just got our green lawn
>>>>>> chairs and watched you collapse. Now there are 35 groups just in
>>>>>> Tennessee! And they all hate each other!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And the real fun? This will be just like the term limits fiasco. A
>>>>>> lot of talk, a lot of pats on the back and then then you will find
>>>>>> yourself marching lock step with the repugs. They will do to you
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> they have already done to the term limits people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's fun to watch one racist screw another!
>>>>> The KKK is falling apart? Since when? You do know that its been a
>>>>> solely Democrat organization for the majority of its history, right?
>>>>>
>>>>> And yet you go into all sorts of blather trying to blame others for
>>>>> being "racists"...while the history of the Democrat Party is wide open
>>>>> for all to puke over.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gunner
>>>>>
>>>>> Whenever a Liberal utters the term "Common Sense approach"....grab
>>>>> your
>>>>> wallet, your ass, and your guns because the sombitch is about to do
>>>>> something damned nasty to all three of them.
>>>> Weren't the Democrats against the abolition of slavery? Or did I dream
>>>> that?
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>
>>> Yup, times change. It's not rocket science if you'll just open your
>>> eyes.
>>>
>>> Republicans, and Whigs, were the liberals of the 1800's pushing
>>> equality for all. By the 1970's those Dixiecrats had moved to the
>>> Republican Party flipping the traditional definition of Republicans.
>>> Democrats cleaned their house (mostly) of Neanderthals, the same
>>> Neanderthals who *now* represent the Republican Party.
>>>
>>> In 1860 Republicans were Federalists, Democrats anti-Federalists.
>>> Today Republicans are anti-Federalists and Democrats Federalists.
>>>
>>> The historical roles of the Democrats and Republicans have been
>>> reversed. Did you really require this lesson in American History?
>>
>>
>> Yes, he probably does. But instead of wasting your time trying to
>> teach the unteachable it's simpler to just cut to the chase. Which is
>> what I said from the start, it's the conservatives who are the real
>> douche bags and I don't give a shit what political party they say they
>> belong to. We all know who they are. They used to be southern
>> Democrats. Now they are the republicans. It's their philosophy that is
>> the problem. They oppose everything that will bring about progress in
>> the country. That also explains why all our problems just keep
>> festering and none of them get solved. It's the conservatives, I mean
>> douche bags that are blocking all attempts to move forward.
>>
>> Hawke
>
> It's because your idea of "Progress" and "Moving forward" aren't only
> wrong, they are just plain evil. Anybody with any morals will fight it
> tooth and nail.

Douche bag conservatives don't have any morals. Ethics either. You'll
notice we didn't move ahead at all during the Bush years. Nothing was
fixed or changed. Nothing improved but lots got worse. Just the way
cowardly conservatives want it. And they will lie, cheat, and stab you
in the back to keep from changing. Lucky for us they are the minority.

Hawke

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 8 2010 11:13 pm
From: Curly Surmudgeon

On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:46:22 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

> I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that HHnC
> <hot-ham-and-cheese@hotmail.com> reported Elvis on Mon, 8 Feb 2010
> 06:30:44 -0800 (PST) in misc.survivalism:
>>On Feb 8, 12:05 am, smor...@board.net wrote:
>>> On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 19:17:14 -0800 (PST), HHnC
>>>
>>> <hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> The historical roles of the Democrats and Republicans have been
>>> >> reversed. Did you really require this lesson in American History?
>>>
>>> >How does that help you plan the next coup in Argentina?
>>>
>>> That's a rightwing thing...
>>
>>It's an inevitability in Argentina. Alberto Cur-Lee went to Argentina
>>to escape the dangers in America. Hi!
>
> Oh bummer.
> -
> pyotr filipivich.
> Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel, you
> find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.

Am I still stalking the cockroach?

--
Regards, Curly
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== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 8 2010 11:25 pm
From: "Burled Frau"

"Hawke" <davesmithers@digitalpath.net> wrote in message
news:hkr1me$17k$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> Buerste wrote:
>>
>> "Hawke" <davesmithers@digitalpath.net> wrote in message
>> news:hko2be$528$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>> Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:41:25 -0800, "Steve B"
>>>> <deserttraver@fishmail.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Gunner Asch" <gunnerasch@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:b46um5dgq6r647bvju027a1cu410tje864@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:37:06 -0800 (PST), Kevin Cunningham
>>>>>> <smskjc@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 7, 7:57 am, "Buerste" <buer...@wowway.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Douchebagger Libtards...kinda' says it all.
>>>>>>> Can't stand it can you? You racist come up with a nice little
>>>>>>> racist
>>>>>>> group, call it something cool.....and it all falls apart. Darn
>>>>>>> liberals!!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course we liberals didn't do a thing, we just got our green lawn
>>>>>>> chairs and watched you collapse. Now there are 35 groups just in
>>>>>>> Tennessee! And they all hate each other!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And the real fun? This will be just like the term limits fiasco. A
>>>>>>> lot of talk, a lot of pats on the back and then then you will find
>>>>>>> yourself marching lock step with the repugs. They will do to you
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> they have already done to the term limits people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's fun to watch one racist screw another!
>>>>>> The KKK is falling apart? Since when? You do know that its been a
>>>>>> solely Democrat organization for the majority of its history, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And yet you go into all sorts of blather trying to blame others for
>>>>>> being "racists"...while the history of the Democrat Party is wide
>>>>>> open
>>>>>> for all to puke over.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gunner
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whenever a Liberal utters the term "Common Sense approach"....grab
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> wallet, your ass, and your guns because the sombitch is about to do
>>>>>> something damned nasty to all three of them.
>>>>> Weren't the Democrats against the abolition of slavery? Or did I
>>>>> dream
>>>>> that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> Yup, times change. It's not rocket science if you'll just open your
>>>> eyes.
>>>>
>>>> Republicans, and Whigs, were the liberals of the 1800's pushing
>>>> equality for all. By the 1970's those Dixiecrats had moved to the
>>>> Republican Party flipping the traditional definition of Republicans.
>>>> Democrats cleaned their house (mostly) of Neanderthals, the same
>>>> Neanderthals who *now* represent the Republican Party.
>>>>
>>>> In 1860 Republicans were Federalists, Democrats anti-Federalists.
>>>> Today Republicans are anti-Federalists and Democrats Federalists.
>>>>
>>>> The historical roles of the Democrats and Republicans have been
>>>> reversed. Did you really require this lesson in American History?
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, he probably does. But instead of wasting your time trying to teach
>>> the unteachable it's simpler to just cut to the chase. Which is what I
>>> said from the start, it's the conservatives who are the real douche bags
>>> and I don't give a shit what political party they say they belong to. We
>>> all know who they are. They used to be southern Democrats. Now they are
>>> the republicans. It's their philosophy that is the problem. They oppose
>>> everything that will bring about progress in the country. That also
>>> explains why all our problems just keep festering and none of them get
>>> solved. It's the conservatives, I mean douche bags that are blocking all
>>> attempts to move forward.
>>>
>>> Hawke
>>
>> It's because your idea of "Progress" and "Moving forward" aren't only
>> wrong, they are just plain evil. Anybody with any morals will fight it
>> tooth and nail.
>
>
> Douche bag conservatives don't have any morals. Ethics either. You'll
> notice we didn't move ahead at all during the Bush years. Nothing was
> fixed or changed. Nothing improved but lots got worse. Just the way
> cowardly conservatives want it. And they will lie, cheat, and stab you in
> the back to keep from changing. Lucky for us they are the minority.
>
>

Uhm, hey douche bag, in case you didn't know this, douche bags and cowards
are liberals. And if you weren't always turning around to suck the cock of
the guy behind you, you wouldn't confuse moving forward with moving
backwards. Get a compass or GPS. You obviously forgot how Obimbo decided to
'turn the ship around" when the idea was to "stay the course". Typical
libtard doesn't know which end is up.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 8 2010 11:28 pm
From: Hawke

smorgas@board.net wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 08:07:48 -0800, Gunner Asch <gunnerasch@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> For what crime? Be specific. Use as much white space as necessary.
>
> No, Cunter he's not correct
>
> You can't be jailed for being stupid
>
> Else you'd have been gone a long time ago.
>

Gummer is the perfect example of what a conservative is. Whether it is
an old fashioned conservative from the days of slavery, a more modern
conservative of the early 60s, or one of today's conservatives. They
never change. They remain the same shallow, ignorant, mean, and nasty
bigots they have always been. They have a habit of making fantastic
claims that are unsupportable by evidence. They lie. They cheat, and
they are the worst hypocrites you will ever come across in your life.
They are the bane of our country and have been for 200 years.
Unfortunately, nothing has come along to rid us of these noxious pests.
They are an irritating part of life just like ticks, fleas, rats, and
human waste. One can only wish they would find a place where they all
could live away from the rest of us. On the other hand, they are a real
nuisance so perhaps the best thing to do is cull them from the herd as
soon as possible.

Hawke

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 8 2010 11:30 pm
From: Hawke

smorgas@board.net wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 05:57:06 -0800, Gunner Asch <gunnerasch@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Ayup..his denial is sickening and displays his mental illness fully.
>
> Even a rudely educated 6th grader knows that southern racists were
> conservatives, not liberals you trolling fuckwit.

Clearly, Gummer doesn't know this.

Hawke

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 8 2010 11:12 pm
From: Curly Surmudgeon

On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:17:40 -0600, Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:31:32 -0500, Zombywoof <fishwings@live.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:29:30 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
>><CurlySurmudgeon@live.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:17:45 -0600, Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:04:29 -0500, Cliff
>>>> <Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN07113352 "Study links sugary
>>>>> soft drinks to pancreas cancer"
>>>>>[
>>>>>* Regular soda drinkers had 87 percent higher risk
>>>>>
>>>>>* Theory is that sugar fuels tumors
>>>>
>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20100208/sc_livescience/
>>>beermaybegoodforyourbones
>>>>
>>>> Beer May Be Good For Your Bones
>>>>
>>>> That's BONES gummer, not boner. You still won't be able to get it up
>>>> with a Viagra and nude pictures of Barbara Bush.
>>>
>>>Wow, viagra and nude barbara bush. That's like snorting lines and
>>>taking a quaalude.
>>>
>>Dude; you are waaay show your age.
>>
>>Livein on Red's Vitamin C & Cocaine!
>
> And of course zombie still thinks we had a "Nazi" salute in 1892
> AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Please, something to wipe the image of a nude Barbara Bush from my
fevered mind. Got any ludes?

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TOPIC: Home of the Free, the Brave and the Gay
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 8 2010 11:20 pm
From: Curly Surmudgeon

On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:37:35 -0800, tankfixer <paul.carrier@gmail.com>
wrote:

> In article <hkp9ij$o3s$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
> CurlySurmudgeon@live.com says...
>>
>> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:23:06 -0800, tankfixer <paul.carrier@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > In article <hko33g$ejp$6@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> > CurlySurmudgeon@live.com says...
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:20:02 -0800, tankfixer
>> >> <paul.carrier@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > In article <hklld1$ka9$4@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> >> > CurlySurmudgeon@live.com says...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:35:05 -0800, tankfixer
>> >> >> <paul.carrier@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > In article <elism5ppqor452cvvbq2ao7sg91lg3hbcu@4ax.com>,
>> >> >> > mrLookout@yahoo.com says...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 14:15:58 -0800, tankfixer
>> >> >> >> <paul.carrier@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >In article <hthrm557sros14sreabtsk8jpjb1f78ba6@4ax.com>,
>> >> >> >> >mrLookout@yahoo.com says...
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 08:59:51 -0800, tankfixer
>> >> >> >> >> <paul.carrier@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >In article <n64qm5d1g9vhmu93uvmip3d5m8r5snrb6p@4ax.com>,
>> >> >> >> >> >mrLookout@yahoo.com says...
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 18:48:57 -0800, tankfixer
>> >> >> >> >> >> <paul.carrier@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >In article <Xns9D16783E5B805hopewell@216.196.97.130>,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >"RD (The Sandman)" says...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Beam Me Up Scotty
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> <Then-Destroy-Everything@Talk-n-dog.com> wrote in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:4b6c496f$0$6035
>> $ec3e2dad@unlimited.usenetmonster.com:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On 2/5/2010 12:24 AM, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 3, 11:53 pm, tankfixer
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> In article <b7a5d4f6-1ca1-4167-bfc1-
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> 5c83d77af...@a5g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> too_many_to...@yahoo.com says...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Both homo and hetrosexuality are normal...check
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> the science.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Last time I checked a hetrosexual couple can
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> reporduce by having sex.. A homosexual couple
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> cannot..
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Do you think it normal a species would evolve in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> such a manner as to not be able to reproduce
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> itself ?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When was the military's mission reproduction of
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> the species?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Please stay on topic.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> TMT
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > *So the military has a mission* , and you say that
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > mission is more important than social functions
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > like reproduction?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Doesn't that mean that anything including making
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Gays happy, and reproduction of heterosexuals are
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > NOT the mission and therefore the Military is not
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > obliged to make any special social allowances for
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > reproduction sexual behavior or NON reproductive
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > sexual behavior that would in any way disrupt or
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > impede any part of the MISSION of keeping America
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > safe.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > If the DNR and the EPA and other Government
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > agencies are willing to take years to do a study an
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > owl or a rat to secure their safety and then ban
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > any improvement that would risk the goal of their
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > reproduction and survival.... then we deserve at
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > least the same consideration before you force the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > MILITARY to allow GAYS and GAY marriages, and Gay
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > sex in the Barracks, and GAY parades, in the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > military.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Gays have been in the military for decades. Hell I
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> was in the military in the 50s and early 60s, gays
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> were there. We mostly didn't give a damn as long as
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> they could cover our six. If they could do that and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> shoot straight, we didn't care if they were green,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> black, white, hetero or homo. We did joke about the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Velvet Club" but as long as it stayed to itself, no
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> problem. Kind of an informal "Don't ask, don't tell",
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> although we always had a pretty good idea who was a
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> member and who wasn't.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Pretty much how it works nowdays.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> And how would you know?
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >Since I am currently serving and you are not who would you
>> >> >> >> >> >think knows ?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Prove it.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Go look me up in AKO.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Never heard of it. I've been out since 85.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Then you arn't nearly as smart as you think you are..
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > AKO, Army Knowledge Online
>> >> >> > https://www.us.army.mil/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And the security certificate cannot be validated. Not that
>> >> >> validation failure is anything new to USG websites. Therefore I
>> >> >> test such using lynx under OpenBSD where even a malicious site
>> >> >> cannot harm me.
>> >> >
>> >> > yet it opens just fine in Chrome...
>> >> > And Firefox..
>> >>
>> >> Dunno about Google's Chrome but it does *not* open in Firefox unless
>> >> you've disabled security protection.
>> >
>> > Works fine with the copy of Firefox I use at work. And MS Explorer.
>> > But that's inside a .mil domain..
>>
>> So you make unwarranted assumptions... Try a default install of
>> Firefox. Or Konqueror, Seamonkey or Safari, same thing. Your browsers
>> have disabled security protection so you again *assume* the problem is
>> others. Assume. I'm sure your DI broke the word down for you...
>
> Are you trying to say that my browsers inside a .mil domain have had
> their security disabled ?
> What were you saying about making assumptions ?
>
>
>
>> >> > Pity you can't go educate yourself.
>> >>
>> >> Assumptions exemplify your stupidity.
>> >
>> > I can't help your unwillingness to learn.
>>
>> You can't help being an idiot.
>>
>> >> >> As I suspected, Army only. Why would you think other services
>> >> >> would know about AKO?
>> >> >
>> >> > Since I know about their portals I would expect they would be
>> >> > aware of how the army dissiminates information. Or are you saying
>> >> > the other services are idiots ?
>> >>
>> >> No, I'm saying that *you* are an idiot.
>> >
>> > Given your longstanding lack of judgment I'm not worried what you
>> > "think", it's often wrong.
>>
>> You prove your idiocy with more unfounded assumptions.
>
> I accept yoru surrender..

Yoru assuming again.

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TOPIC: Oh Look...They Have Parents..Who Would Have Guessed? >>OR<< children
are the hostages to keep, the cash flowing to Haiti
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/91f7e2c68f4a7e79?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 8 2010 11:21 pm
From: Curly Surmudgeon

On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:15:04 -0600, Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:24:47 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
> <CurlySurmudgeon@live.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:01:21 -0600, Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:33:56 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
>>> <Then-Destroy-Everything@Talk-n-dog.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2/7/2010 7:33 PM, Lookout wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:47:33 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
>>>>> <Then-Destroy-Everything@Talk-n-dog.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/3/2010 12:22 PM, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The truth has come out..the Bible thumpers were stealing children
>>>>>>> and they got caught.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They have admitted it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They have credible witnesses to confirm it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TMT
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obviously stealing and helping is being confused and all the Bible
>>>>>> thumpers and their money should leave Haiti and help somewhere that
>>>>>> they are appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> In fact they also LIED to those with them. Only two knew the
>>>>> truth..other 8 were ignorant lemmings.
>>>>>
>>>>> And lying is a sin. One of the big ten. But christians don't care.
>>>>> Not one damn bit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Then Haiti should run all the Christians out..... it works that way
>>>>also.
>>>
>>>
>>> Run ALL the christians off the planet...good plan.
>>
>>Naaah, let'm have this one.
>>
>>Homo Superior can have the rest of the universe. Let's get busy and
>>build our ark...
>
> Do I have to take my wife?

If you need permission then maybe your ticket won't work...

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TOPIC: Off to LA again
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/bdadeb120097dc56?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 8 2010 11:39 pm
From: Hawke

Gunner Asch wrote:

>> Actually..it appears that neither have been to Taft <G> and have never
>> stopped in Bakersfield.
>>
>> Looks like they came up with their descriptions from hope and ignorance.
>> <G> But then..thats all that they have.
>> Shrug
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taft,_California
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakersfield,_California
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notable_natives_and_residents_in_Bakersfield,_California
>>
>> Gunner
>
>
> Oh..btw..Im on the road again in a few minutes.
>
> See ya!
>
> Gunner
>

By the way, I have been in Bakersfield. It sucked. I didn't hang around
long. No reason to go to Taft to see someplace even worse. Hope ya get
hit by a truck.

Hawke

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TOPIC: Hey Ed, that snow coming up your way?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/5da3fd42a63375e4?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 8 2010 11:39 pm
From: Don Foreman

On 9 Feb 2010 00:53:59 GMT, "DoN. Nichols" <dnichols@d-and-d.com>
wrote:

>On 2010-02-08, dcaster@krl.org <dcaster@krl.org> wrote:
>> On Feb 8, 4:24 am, "DoN. Nichols" <dnich...@d-and-d.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> A neighbor loaned me a snow blower (Toro) after seeing me trying
>>> to use a "power shovel" which is very limited at the end of 100' of
>>> heavy gauge extension cord, even if it weren't closer to the house. :-)
>>> He was returning from digging out an even older local resident on the
>>> street.
>>>
>>> Enjoy,
>>> DoN.
>>
>> Speaking of snow blowers, does anyone have plans for a pretty good
>> one. I had planned on making a simple one without power to the
>> wheels. Now I am rethinking that.
>
> I think that based on my experience with this Toro (which had no
>powered wheels) and the steep slope of my driveway, I would want powered
>treads -- perhaps from a snowmobile but geared down to a more reasonable
>speed.
>
> And the ability to raise or lower the snow beater relative to
>the tread level, so you could start working at a level which would be
>high enough so you were within the capacity of the blower. With the
>Toro, we had to use a shovel to knock down the higher accumulations and
>blow it a layer at a time.

The two-stage Toro 521 (5 hp, 21" swath) with powered wheels was
probably the best model they ever made for homeowners in snow country.
It's not too heavy to manhandle even for a 68-year old gent with a
half-functional ticker with electronic aid, and it does not need
assistance with a shovel in deep snow. Ya just take smaller bites. It
can throw even fairly wet heavy snow quite a ways and it can chew thru
the drift left by the municipal plow at the end of the driveway.
Ya adjust the speed and size of bite to the situation, it'll get 'er
done.

I would not now be able to manage it without the powered wheels, but
with power including reverse, no problem. My exercise hour today was
spent with Mr. Toro. More puffing and sweat than walking 3 miles on
the treadmill while watching Law & Order but my cardiologist tells me
to be active, I won't break if I do that but will decay if I don't.
I've had softer drill instructors. Gettin' old is not for sissies.

I'm sure getting tired of snow.

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TOPIC: Just How Fucked Up Has The CADCAM Business Become?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/6dc3821da16e0c5d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 8 2010 11:54 pm
From: Joe788

Leading Surfcam VAR for the San Diego area now gone.

With 20 plus years in the business he has this to say:

http://www.performancecadcam.com/

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