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TOPIC: Pawn Shop Bargains ...
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 2 2010 4:33 am
From: "Snag"

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> Snag wrote:
>>
>> I would appreciate that ! My reply-to is a valid email addy .
>> Thanks !
>
>
> Sent. Good luck with your projects. :)
>
>
> --
> Greed is the root of all eBay.

Thanks , I have that coupon printed , be headed for HF today . Had a good
day yesterday , got enough parts cast for two alunimun casting flasks .
Raining today ... and almost cold enough to snow . Will this Global Warming
never cease ?
--
Snag
"90 FLHTCU "Strider"
'39 WLDD "PopCycle"
BS 132/SENS/DOF

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TOPIC: Endangerment Finding
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 2 2010 4:38 am
From: "dcaster@krl.org"

On Mar 1, 12:50 pm, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om>
wrote:

>
> The exaust from many gas spaceheaters kills many types of
> plants.
> --
> Cliff

Can you give a cite for that statement?

Dan

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 2 2010 5:11 am
From: "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

"dcaster@krl.org" <dcaster@krl.org> fired this volley in news:578b22de-
4702-4e53-8172-ecb0f054ea20@y11g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:

> On Mar 1, 12:50�pm, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> � The exaust from many gas spaceheaters kills many types of
>> plants.
>> --
>> Cliff
>
> Can you give a cite for that statement?
>
> Dan
>

The only thing I have ever heard that is similar to that is that the
methyl mercaptan released from un-burnt cooking gas is toxic to plants.
I have at least a couple of plant care booklets that warn one to
frequently "air out" indoor plants if you cook with gas or use an un-
vented gas heater. Both those applications release a small amount of
un-burnt gas during the igntion cycle.

But as far as I can tell, the combustion products of a clean gas flame
are only water and CO2... not a terribly toxic combination to most plants
<G>.

LLoyd

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TOPIC: Alternatives to LPS-2
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 2 2010 4:42 am
From: GeoLane at PTD dot NET

>
>Does anyone know of a cheaper alternative that can be sprayed and does
>not dry out.

I've never used LPS-2, so I can't make a direct comparison,
but take a look at Black Bear Par-AL-Ketone sold by
Aircraft Spruce. It is intended as a rust preventative and can be
diluted with mineral spirits, or denatured alcohol if you want it to
dry out faster. In discussions on the net many years ago, I recall
it was said that it was the same or similar to what was used in the
Rusty Jones rust proofing for cars. It's off lable use is as a bullet
lubricant ala Lee Liquid Alox.

RWL

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TOPIC: Liberals Smarter Than Conservatives
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 2 2010 4:40 am
From: Cliff

On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:20:39 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
<Then-Destroy-Everything@Talk-n-dog.com> wrote:

>>> Nothing ironical about declaring your opponent delusional by
>>> describing your delusional depiction of them.
>>
>> Beam Me Up Scotty has been beamed up it looks like.
>> Thinks guns solve all problems.
>> Shoots self in head again he does.
>>
>> Don't trust this guy with even simple problems or they
>> will look like Stop signs in Red States.
>> But only made worse, never solved.
>
>But then you and your ilk got us here didn't you.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/14/AR2009011402791.html
"10 Take Aways From the Bush Years"
[
There's actually a lot that President-elect Barack Obama can learn from the
troubled presidency of George W. Bush. Over the past eight years, I have
interviewed President Bush for nearly 11 hours, spent hundreds of hours with his
administration's key players and reviewed thousands of pages of documents and
notes. That produced four books, totaling 1,727 pages, that amount to a very
long case study in presidential decision-making, and there are plenty of morals
to the story. Presidents live in the unfinished business of their predecessors,
and Bush casts a giant shadow on the Obama presidency with two incomplete wars
and a monumental financial and economic crisis. Here are 10 lessons that Obama
and his team should take away from the Bush experience.
....
]

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-december-31-2008/the-bush-years--dubya-economics-mashup
"The Bush Years: Dubya Economics Mashup"

http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/010952.html
"The true history of the Bush years"
[
The Bush administration is ending. If Bush & Co. didn't entirely wreck the
place, it was for no lack of trying. George himself achieved astonishing depths
of failure. His most notable achievements were all unintentional, and he still
doesn't know what they were.

Here's the biggest one: Although the American people have been fed a diet of
cynical disinformation about government for the last half-century or more, the
Bush years re-taught millions of them that voting is important, that established
parties aren't identical, that primaries are a mechanism for assessing and
refining candidates, and that campaign speeches don't have to consist entirely
of hot air and patriotic-sounding generalities.

There will be histories written about the Bush administration. They'll be privy
to information we don't have yet, because the future is like that. On the other
hand, we have our own privileged knowledge: We know how the story looked like to
people who didn't know how it was going to come out.

Now, in this moment before a changing world overwrites our memories of the era,
let us pause to salute our constant companion of those years: The Onion. Other
histories of the Bush years will doubtless be more factual, but none will ever
be truer.

January 26, 2000: Bush Reaches Out To Hispanic Community With Generous Tip.
March 8, 2000: Bush 'Refuses To Dignify' Mass-Murder Allegations.
July, 26, 2000: Bush Reluctantly Accepts Donation From Parents.
August 9, 2000: Republicans' 'Diversity Through Imported Africans' Plan
Criticized.
September 13, 2000: Bush Surges Ahead In Polls After Strong Showing On Pommel
Horse.
October 4, 2000: Bush Vows To Do 'That Thing Gore Just Said, Only Better'.
October 18, 2000: Bush Horrified To Learn Presidential Salary.
November 15, 2000: Bush Executes 253 New Mexico Democrats.
November 15, 2000: Nation Plunges Into Chaos: Pro-Bush Rebels Seize Power In
West; D.C. In Flames.
November 15, 2000: Serbia Deploys Peacekeeping Forces To U.S.
December 20, 2000: Bush Calls For End To 'Era Of Political Argument'.
January 17, 2001: Bush: 'Our Long National Nightmare Of Peace And Prosperity Is
Finally Over'.
January 24, 2001: '80s Retro Craze Sweeps Executive Branch.
March 21, 2001: Congress Adds 'All Your Base Are Belong To Us' Amendment To
Bankruptcy Bill.
April 18, 2001: Bush Regales Dinner Guests With Impromptu Oratory On Virgil's
Minor Works.
May 9, 2001: After Careful Consideration, Bush Recommends Oil Drilling.
May 30, 2001: Bush Actually President, Nation Suddenly Realizes.
June 20, 2001: Bush Trying To Decide How To Spend His Tax Refund
July 18, 2001: Bush Vows To Remove Toxic Petroleum From National Parks.
August 1, 2001: Bush Finds Error In Fermilab Calculations.
August 22, 2001: Bush Vows To Wipe Out Prescription-Drug Addiction Among
Seniors.
September 26, 2001: American Life Turns Into Bad Jerry Bruckheimer Movie.
September 26, 2001: Hijackers Surprised To Find Selves In Hell.
September 26, 2001: God Angrily Clarifies 'Don't Kill' Rule.
September 26, 2001: Hugging Up 76,000 Percent.
September 26, 2001: Arab-American Third-Grader Returns From Recess Crying,
Saying He Didn't Kill Anyone.
September 26, 2001: Not Knowing What Else To Do, Woman Bakes American-Flag Cake.
September 26, 2001: Bush Sr. Apologizes To Son For Funding Bin Laden In '80s.
September 26, 2001: Report: Gen X Irony, Cynicism May Be Permanently Obsolete.
September 26, 2001: Jerry Falwell: Is That Guy A Dick Or What?
September 26, 2001: The U.S. Military Is Pondering Its Response Options.
September 26, 2001: Talking To Your Child About The WTC Attack.
September 26, 2001: U.S. Vows To Defeat Whoever It Is We're At War With.
September 26, 2001: President Urges Calm, Restraint Among Nation's Ballad
Singers.
September 26, 2001: Statshot: How Have We Spent the Last Two Weeks?
September 26, 2001: Dinty Moore Breaks Long Silence On Terrorism With Full-Page
Ad.
September 26, 2001: Point/Counterpoint: We Must Retaliate With Blind Rage…
September 26, 2001: Infographic: Making America Safer.
October 3, 2001: U.S. Urges Bin Laden To Form Nation It Can Attack.
October 10, 2001: Freedoms Curtailed In Defense Of Liberty.
October 17, 2001: Woman With Sore Throat Thinks It Might Be Anthrax.
October 31, 2001: CIA Admits It's Good At Overthrowing Stuff, Not So Much The
Intelligence.
November 14, 2001: U.S. To Arab World: 'Stop Hating Us Or Suffer The
Consequences'.
December 05, 2001: All Proceeds No Longer Going To Charity.
December 5, 2001: America Is Ready To Laugh At Me Again.
December 19, 2001: What Is Sexy In The Wake Of Sept. 11?
January 16, 2002: Bush Attempts To Distance Self From Yet Another Failed
Business.
February 6, 2002: Bush Earmarks 1.5 Billion Gold Stars For Education.
February 20, 2002: Americans Would Be Outraged If They Understood Enron
Collapse.
February 27, 2002: $5 Million Bounty Placed On Recession.
March 6, 2002: Bush Calls On Business Leaders To Create 500,000 Shitty Jobs By
2003.
June 5, 2002: Life Jackets Issued To All Americans For Some Reason.
June 20, 2002: Fan-Favorite First Season Of Bush Administration Released On DVD.
July 24, 2002: Bush Begins Hunger Strike To Protest Human-Rights Abuses In
Nepal.
July 31, 2002: U.S. Takes Out Debt-Consolidation Loan.
August 7, 2002: Lou Dobbs Hosts Moneyline From Window Ledge.
September 11, 2002: Second Birthday In A Row Ruined By Terrorism.
September 11, 2002: Bush Won't Stop Asking Cheney If We Can Invade Yet.
September 18, 2002: Bush Sends Troops To West Nile.
October 2, 2002: Bush Seeks U.N. Support For 'U.S. Does Whatever It Wants' Plan.
October 16, 2002: Bush On Economy: 'Saddam Must Be Overthrown'.
November 20, 2002: When I'm Feeling Blue, I Can Always Go To My Undisclosed
Location.
December 4, 2002: Report: Presidents Washington Through Bush May Have Lied About
Key Matters.
December 11, 2002: Bush Gives France 30 Days To Speak English.
December 18, 2002: Bill Of Rights Pared Down To A Manageable Six.
January 15, 2003: Bush On North Korea: 'We Must Invade Iraq'.
February 5, 2003: Department Of The Interior Sets Aside Two Million Acres For
Car Commercials.
February 12, 2003: Saddam Enrages Bush With Full Compliance.
February 12, 2003: Ashcroft Orders Staff To Chain Him Tightly Before Next Full
Moon.
February 12, 2003: North Korea Wondering What It Has To Do To Attract U.S.
Military Attention.
February 19, 2003: Terrorism 'Not Likely' Cause Of Fire At Local Laundromat.
March 5, 2003: Bush Offers Taxpayers Another $300 If We Go To War.
March 12, 2003: Bush Orders Iraq To Disarm Before Start Of War.
March 12, 2003: Congress Accidentally Approves Arts Funding.
March 26, 2003: Bush Bravely Leads 3rd Infantry Into Battle.
March 26, 2003: Vital Info On Iraqi Chemical Weapons Provided By U.S. Company
That Made Them.
March 26, 2003: This War Will Destabilize The Entire Mideast Region/No it won't.
March 26, 2003: U.S. Continues Proud Tradition Of Diversity On Front Lines.
April 2, 2003: Government No Longer Even Bothering To Hide Halliburton Favors.
April 2, 2003: Bush Thought War Would Be Over By Now.
April 2, 2003: I Should Not Be Allowed To Say The Following Things About
America.
April 9, 2003: Bush Subconsciously Sizes Up Spain For Invasion.
May 7, 2003: Bush Cites The Last Starfighter As Inspiration For Entering
Politics.
June 4, 2003: Bush Visits U.S.S. Truman For Dramatic Veterans'-Benefits-Cutting
Ceremony.
June 11, 2003: Infographic: Exaggerating the WMD Threat.
June 18, 2003: GOP Reports Record Second-Quarter Profits.
June 18, 2003: U.S. Refuses To Allow U.N. Weapons Inspectors Back Into Iraq.
July 2, 2003: Bush Asks Congress For $30 Billion To Help Fight War On Criticism.
July 23, 2003: Bush Not Heard From For Over A Month.
August 6, 2003: Cheney Regrets Buying Bush Laser Pointer.
August 14, 2003: Republicans Introduce Economic Equality Bill For Fun Of
Shooting It Down.
August 20, 2003: Bush Diagnosed With Attention-To-Deficit Disorder.
September 10, 2003: Relations Break Down Between U.S. And Them.
September 10, 2003: White House Denied Third Mortgage.
September 17, 2003: Revised Patriot Act Will Make It Illegal To Read Patriot
Act.
September 24, 2003: U.S. Government To Discontinue Long-Term, Low-Yield
Investment In Nation's Youth.
October 1, 2003: 85% Of Public Believes Bush's Approval Rating Fell In Last
Month.
October 1, 2003: Cheney Suspects Bush Listening In On Other Phone.
October 15, 2003: Bush Disappointed To Learn Chinese Foreign Minister Doesn't
Know Karate.
October 15, 2003: Lieberman Pledges To Gloss Over The Boring Issues.
October 22, 2003: CIA-Leak Scapegoat Still At Large.
November 5, 2003: Energy Secretary Just Assumed Cabinet Knew He Did Porn Films
In The '80s.
November 5, 2003: Karl Rove Ensures Republican Elected As Student Body
President.
December 3, 2003: Bush Re-Election Campaign Creates Thousands Of New Jobs.
December 17, 2003: Bush Won't Put Down New Football.
January 21, 2004: Bush Vows To Discover, Legalize Aliens On American, Martian
Soil.
January 28, 2004: Bush 2004 Campaign Pledges To Restore Honor And Dignity To
White House.
January 28, 2004: Rumsfeld Only One Who Can Change Toner In White House Printer.
February 25, 2004: Bush To Cut Deficit From Federal Budget.
March 3, 2004: Bush To Make Up Missed National Guard Service This Weekend.
March 10, 2004: Cheney Clotheslines Aide.
March 17, 2004: Rumsfeld Hosts No-Holds-Barred Martial Arts Tournament At Remote
Island Fortress.
March 17, 2004: Bush Calls Incumbency Key Issue Of Campaign.
March 24, 2004: Bush Urges Iraqis To Pass Amendment Banning Gay Marriage.
March 31, 2004: Bush Addresses 8.2 Million Unemployed: 'Get A Job'.
April 7, 2004: Price Of Nuclear Secrets Plummeting.
April 14, 2004: New Negative Campaign Ads Blast Voters Directly.
April 21, 2004: Cheney Wows Sept. 11 Commission By Drinking Glass Of Water While
Bush Speaks.
April 21, 2004: Iraqis Arming Selves For Independence.
April 28, 2004: Bush To Iraqi Militants: 'Please Stop Bringing It On'.
May 12, 2004: Bush Vows To Pay Closer Attention To Needs Of Non-Presidents.
May 19, 2004: U.S. To Fight Terror With Terror.
May 26, 2004: Fed-Up Cheney Enters Presidential Race Himself.
May 26, 2004: Bush Posts Classified Ad For 90,000 Troops.
June 16, 2004: Report: 9/11 Commission Could Have Been Prevented.
July 7, 2004: Devious Rabbit Tricks Bush Into Signing Gun Ban.
July 7, 2004: Nation's Liberals Suffering From Outrage Fatigue.
July 21, 2004: White House Declares War On DSL Provider.
July 21, 2004: Secretary Of Defense Humiliated As U.S. Credit Card Rejected.
August 4, 2004: CIA Asks Bush To Discontinue Blog.
August 11, 2004: Kerry Unveils One-Point Plan For Better America.
August 18, 2004: Bush Finally Gets Oval Office Just The Way He Wants It.
August 25, 2004: Swing States Roughed Up By Bush, Kerry Operatives.
September 1, 2004: Small Group Of Dedicated Rich People Change The World.
September 1, 2004: Vacationing Bush Accepts Republican Nomination Via Live
Satellite Feed.
September 1, 2004: Cheney Urged Not To Work Blue During Convention.
September 8, 2004: Bush Campaign More Thought-Out Than Iraq War.
September 8, 2004: Hundreds Of Republicans Injured In Rush To Discredit Kerry.
September 15, 2004: Cheney Returns To Camp Crystal Lake.
September 22, 2004: Bush Introduces New Timmy Blanchard Left Behind Act.
September 29, 2004: Documents Reveal Gaps In Bush's Service As President.
October 6, 2004: Irrelevant Pop Stars Unite Against Bush.
October 6, 2004: Bush Arrives At Debate Wearing Flight Suit.
October 13, 2004: Cheney Vows To Attack U.S. If Kerry Elected.
October 20, 2004: Nader Polling At 8% Among Past Supporters.
October 27, 2004: Republicans Urge Minorities To Get Out And Vote On Nov. 3.
October 27, 2004: Countdown To The Recount 2004.
November 3, 2004: Nader Supporters Blame Electoral Defeat On Bush, Kerry.
November 3, 2004: Millions Of Work Hours Lost To Voting.
November 3, 2004: U.S. Inspires World With Attempt At Democratic Election.
November 10, 2004: Bush Promises To Unite Nation For Real This Time.
November 10, 2004: Nation's Poor Win Election For Nation's Rich.
November 10, 2004: U.S. To Send 30,000 Mall Security Guards To Iraq.
November 17, 2004: Republicans Call For Privatization Of Next Election.
November 24, 2004: White House Thanksgiving Turkey Detained Without Counsel.
November 24, 2004: Swift Boat Veterans Still Hounding Kerry.
December 22, 2004: 44 Suspicious Packages Detonated Under White House Christmas
Tree.
January 5, 2005: Bush Celebrates Millionth Utterance Of 'Lessons Of Sept. 11'.
January 5, 2005: Bush Unveils New Blind-Faith-Based Initiatives.
January 19, 2005: White House Dishwasher Tenders Resignation.
February 9, 2005: Bush Defends Deny-Side Economics.
February 23, 2005: Bush Determined To Find Warehouse Where Ark Of Covenant Is
Stored.
March 9, 2005: Bush Announces Iraq Exit Strategy: 'We'll Go Through Iran'.
March 23, 2005: Colin Powell's Tell-All Book: Steroid Use Rampant In White
Houses.
March 30, 2005: Bush Launches Preemptive Attack On Social Security.
March 30, 2005: 'Missed Connection' Ad Obviously Cheney.
April 6, 2005: Cheney Offspring Bursts From Bush's Chest.
April 27, 2005: Report: U.S. Foreign Policy Hurting American Students' Chances
Of Getting Laid Abroad.
May 4, 2005: Arizona Man Steals Bush's Identity, Vetoes Bill, Meets With Mexican
President.
May 19, 2005: Bush Challenges America To Produce The Perfect Romantic Comedy By
2009.
June 1, 2005: U.S. Intensifies Empty-Threat Campaign Against North Korea.
June 8, 2005: Bush Lifts Ban On Vigilantism: 'Let's See What Happens,' Says
President.
June 15, 2005: Bush Fishing For Compliments During Press Conference.
July 20, 2005: Marine Corps Shortens Slogan To 'The Few'.
July 27, 2005: Bush To London Bombers: 'Bring It On'.
July 27, 2005: Supreme Court Justices Devour Sandra Day O'Connor In Ancient
Ritual.
August 3, 2005: White House Denies Existence Of Karl Rove.
August 3, 2005: Bush Acquired By Martian Zoo.
August 10, 2005: Bush Vows To Eliminate U.S. Dependence On Oil By 4920.
August 31, 2005: Bush: Vacation Ruined By 'Stupid Dead Soldier'.
September 7, 2005: Cheney Dropped By White House HMO.
September 7, 2005: Bush Tearfully Addresses Nation After Watching Field Of
Dreams.
September 14, 2005: Halliburton Gets Contract To Pry Gold Fillings From New
Orleans Corpses' Teeth.
September 14, 2005: Bush Nominates First-Trimester Fetus To Supreme Court.
September 21, 2005: Bush Braces As Cindy Sheehan's Other Son Drowns In New
Orleans.
September 28, 2005: Bush's Approval Rating Of Other Americans Also At All-Time
Low.
September 28, 2005: U.S. Launches AIDS-Awareness Campaign In Botswana: 'You All
Have AIDS,' Says U.S..
October 5, 2005: Halliburton Given Contract To Rebuild Cheney.
October 12, 2005: Bush To Appoint Someone To Be In Charge Of Country.
October 19, 2005: President Bush Urges Nation.
October 20, 2005: Bush To Throw Out First Through 120th Pitch Of World Series.
October 27, 2005: Bush To Nominate Next Person Who Walks Through Door.
November 2, 2005: 'Scooter' Libby Wishes He'd Ditched Nickname Before Media
Coverage.
November 2, 2005: Bush Orders Mass Bald Eagle Slaughter To Stop Spread Of Bird
Flu.
November 16, 2005: Long-Awaited Beer With Bush Really Awkward, Voter Reports.
November 23, 2005: Bush To Increase Funding For Hope-Based Initiatives.
November 23, 2005: Topeka Mayor Now Highest-Ranking Non-Indicted Republican
Official.
December 7, 2005: More Americans Falling For 'Get Rich Slowly Over A Lifetime Of
Hard Work' Schemes.
December 7, 2005: Voice Of God Revealed To Be Cheney On Intercom.
December 21, 2005: U.S. Troops Draw Up Own Exit Strategy.
December 28, 2005: Cloned Cheney Lacks Charm Of Original.
December 28, 2005: Bush Elected President Of Iraq.
December 28, 2005: White House Celebrates Fifth Straight Year Without Oral Sex.
December 28, 2005: Well-Rested Bush At The Top Of His Game.
December 28, 2005: North Korea Nukes Self In Desperate Plea For Attention.
January 17, 2006: U.S. Holds Going-Out-Of-Business Sale.
January 18, 2006: Bush Urges Senate To Give Alito Fair, Quick, Unanimous
Confirmation.
January 20, 2006: CEO Needs $30 Million Aspen Home To Recharge Batteries.
February 1, 2006: President Creates Cabinet-Level Position To Coordinate
Scandals.
February 8, 2006: White House Debuts Iraq War Infomercial.
February 14, 2006: Bush Hides U.S. Report Card In Sock Drawer.
February 15, 2006: President Bush Escapes From Weekly Bath.
February 20, 2006: White House Had Prior Knowledge Of Cheney Threat.
February 27, 2006: Democrats Vow Not To Give Up Hopelessness.
March 13, 2006: Bush Increasingly Focused On How Revisionist History Will See
Him.
March 20, 2006: White House Reporter Asks How Many Mountain Dews The President
Slams A Day.
March 23, 2006: World Leaders Urge Condoleezza Rice To Take NFL Commissioner's
Job.
March 28, 2006: President Bush Designates 1 Million Acres For Federally
Protected Water Parks.
April 5, 2006: Detroit Sold For Scrap.
April 5, 2006: Critics Blast Bush For Not Praying Hard Enough.
April 26, 2006: EPA Didn't Know Anybody Was Still Drinking Water.
April 26, 2006: Bush Calls Cabinet Meeting To Get Story Straight.
April 28, 2006: President Approval Rating Remains High On eBay.
May 17, 2006: Oil Executives March On D.C.
May 23, 2006: President Bush Invokes Executive Super Powers.
May 24, 2006: Bush Puts National Guard In Charge Of Public Relations.
May 24, 2006: Hillary Clinton Is Too Ambitious To Be The First Female President.
May 31, 2006: Critics Blast Al Gore's Documentary As 'Realistic'.
June 28, 2006: Insurgent Secretly Terrified Of Winning Control Of Iraq.
June 28, 2006: Government To Defend Marriage From Dashing Reginald St. Croix,
Esq..
June 30, 2006: Vice President Cheney's Severed Hand Chokes Chairman Of Ways And
Means Committee.
July 17, 2006: Deadlocked Supreme Court: 'Someone's Voting Twice'.
July 18, 2006: Bush Quietly Rolls Back Iraq Death Toll To Zero.
July 19, 2006: Scratch 'N Win Ballots To Debut In November.
July 21, 2006: U.S. Soldiers Ask Rumsfeld If They Could Get Surprise Visit From
Loved Ones Instead.
August 1, 2006: Bush Grants Self Permission To Grant More Power To Self.
August 9, 2006: Condoleezza Rice Holds Bathtime Talks With Undersea
Representatives.
August 15, 2006: U.S. Dedicates $64 Billion To Undermining Gates Foundation
Efforts.
August 30, 2006: Bush Urges Nation To Be Quiet For A Minute While He Tries To
Think.
August 30, 2006: Bush Gives Up Presidency For True Love.
September 7, 2006: Bush: 'History Cannot Judge Me If I End It Soon'.
September 11, 2006: NYC Unveils 9/11 Memorial Hole.
September 27, 2006: New Job Posting On Craigslist Clearly For Secretary Of The
Interior.
October 3, 2006: Flustered Bush Misses Air Force One Flight.
October 4, 2006: President Bush Decides The U.S. Will Fight The Terrorists In
Ohio.
October 11, 2006: Bush Urges Expanded Drilling Of Alaskan Wildlife.
October 31, 2006: GOP Throws All Financial Support Behind One Candidate.
November 1, 2006: Bush: Thousands Of Registered Democrats Needed For 'Extremely
Important' Mission.
November 3, 2006: President Bush Asks U.S. Soldiers To Stop Dying.
November 3, 2006: Laura Bush Suspects Anniversary Card Penned By Speech Writer.
November 7, 2006: Politicians Sweep Midterm Elections.
November 7, 2006: Republicans Blame Election Losses On Democrats.
November 7, 2006: Voter Turnout Reaches All-Time Low Of 17.
November 8, 2006: Rumsfeld: 'My Half-Assed Job Here Is Done'.
November 22, 2006: CNN Renews This Week At War For Next Eight Seasons.
November 27, 2006: Troop Morale Boosted By Surprise Visit From First Dog.
November 29, 2006: President Bush Spills Coffee On Computer That Has All Of The
Government's Files On It.
December 11, 2006: Discouraged Bush Begins Seeking Approval Of Other Nations.
December 12, 2006: Marine Hopes To Spend Second Tour Of Duty On Different
Baghdad City Block.
December 12, 2006: Clinton Finally Takes Responsibility For Bush
Administration's Failures.
December 13, 2006: Failed Attempt At Hyperbole Yields Dead-On Statistic.
December 18, 2006: Generous Vice President Cheney Gives Hard-Working Media Field
Day.
December 18, 2006: Karl Rove Accused Of Throwing Midterm Elections.
December 18, 2006: Ken Lay's Children Inherit 4,000 Pensions.
January 3, 2007: Laura Bush Crushes Life Out Of White House Intruder.
January 19, 2007: White House Hints At Surprise Twist Ending To Bush Presidency.
January 22, 2007: Bush Rushing To Get Nation In Order Before Hu Jintao's Visit.
January 23, 2007: CIA Director Quietly Buys Nuclear-Attack Insurance.
January 29, 2007: Bush Commits One Additional Troop To Afghanistan.
January 31, 2007: White House Quietly Retracts Entire State Of The Union
Address.
February 2, 2007: Bush Deploys 20,000 Wishful Thoughts To Iraq.
February 14, 2007: President Bush Sacrifices National Lamb.
February 21, 2007: Giuliani To Run For President Of 9/11.
February 23, 2007: Dick Cheney Can't Get Enough New Hearts.
February 28, 2007: Manny Ramirez Plays With Bush Family Dogs.
March 13, 2007: White House Adds Eight Inches To White House Fence.
March 26, 2007: Injured Troops Request Extended Tours To Avoid Being Sent To
Walter Reed.
March 28, 2007: Heroic Secret Service Agent Takes Question Intended For Bush.
March 28, 2007: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confesses To Confessing Under Torture.
April 2, 2007: Bush Refuses To Set Timetable For Withdrawal Of Head From White
House Banister.
April 11, 2007: Cheney Spends 2-Week Vacation Lying Motionless In Open Grave.
April 11, 2007: U.S. Counter-Counterterrorism Unit Successfully Destroys
Washington Monument.
April 23, 2007: Cheney Celebrates Earth Day By Breathing Oxygen.
April 25, 2007: President Bush Reaches Out To Nation's Fallen Bees.
May 2, 2007: Bush Has One Of Those Days Where He Feels Like 68% Of People Hate
Him.
May 17, 2007: Fall From Pommel Horse Puts Cheney's 2008 Olympic Hopes In Doubt.
June 5, 2007: Secret Service Agent Takes Out Dandelion On White House Lawn.
June 6, 2007: Retired Gen. George Washington Criticizes Bush's Handling Of Iraq
War.
June 20, 2007: Addressing Climate Crisis, Bush Calls For Development Of National
Air Conditioner.
July 16, 2007: Bush Orders F-16 Flyover To Cheer Himself Up.
July 24, 2007: Bush Texting While Mahmoud Abbas Speaks.
August 6, 2007: DNA Evidence Frees Man From Zoo.
August 24, 2007: Democratic Mob Censures Bush In Effigy.
August 31, 2007: Heartbroken Bush Runs After Departing Rove's Car.
September 5, 2007: New Secret Service Agent Disappointed There Are No Decoy
Presidents.
September 6, 2007: New Orleans Saints Relocated To Help Heal Utah.
September 12, 2007: Statshot: How is the New York Times padding its opinion
page?
September 20, 2007: In The Know: White House Announces 'Everything Is Great In
Iraf'.
September 21, 2007: Fifteen Awesome Lies about Hillary Clinton.
September 26, 2007: Bush Makes Surprise Visit To Work.
October 3, 2007: New Heart Device Allows Cheney To Experience Love.
October 10, 2007: Cost Of Freedom At All-Time High.
October 13, 2007: Reaganomics Finally Trickles Down To Area Man.
October 31, 2007: Child On White House Tour Momentarily Seizes Control Of
Nation.
November 6, 2007: Bush Proud U.S. Economic Woes Can Still Depress World Markets.
November 7, 2007: Infographic: Democratic Candidates Turn On Clinton.
November 12, 2007: U.S. Intelligence: Iran Possesses Trillions Of Potentially
Dangerous Atoms.
November 21, 2007: Proposed Bill Would Bring 4,000 Troops Back To Life.
December 10, 2007: Bush's New Dentist Faces Tough Confirmation Hearing.
December 16, 2007: Iraq War No Longer Interesting Enough To Make List Of Year's
Top Stories.
December 17, 2007: Infographic: The Presidency In The Year 2007.
December 18, 2007: Gore Wins Oscar, Nobel Peace Prize For Slide-Show
Presentation.
December 21, 2007: Bush Acknowledges Existence Of Carbon Dioxide.
January 1, 2008: The Candidates.
January 5, 2008: Bush Begins Preparations For Nation's Final Year.
January 23, 2008: Bill Clinton: 'Screw It, I'm Running For President'.
January 30, 2008: We Must All Do Our Part To Preserve This Climate Of Fear.
February 15, 2008: Asian Markets Fall Like Cherry Blossoms In Gentle Spring
Rain.
February 22, 2008: Bush Hopes Recession Doesn't Affect Sales Of His Memoirs.
February 27, 2008: Bush Vows To Make It Up To Country Somehow.
March 18, 2008: President Bush Accidentally Signs Cast Into Law.
March 19, 2008: Infographic: McCain's Running Mate.
March 21, 2008: JPMorgan Chase Acquires Bear Stearns In Tedious-To-Read News
Article.
April 9, 2008: Cheney Re-Grows Limb In Front Of Shocked Advisers.
April 9, 2008: Iraq War Memorial Planners Forced To Revise Length Again.
April 10, 2008: $46,000 Vacuumed Out Of White House Couch.
May 1, 2008: President Bush Unveils New 'Impotence Only' Sex Policy.
May 14, 2008: Obama Voicemail Message Not That Inspiring.
May 14, 2008: Everything Falling Apart, Reports Institute For Somehow Managing
To Hold It All Together.
May 23, 2008: Bush Announces 8-Month Plan To Steal Favorite Desk Lamp.
May 28, 2008: President Bush Converts West Wing Into Injured Animal Shelter.
June 11, 2008: Latest Cheney Tape May Contain Evidence Of His Whereabouts.
June 16, 2008: Grandmother Proud To Have Lived Long Enough To See First Viable
Female Candidate Torn Apart.
June 18, 2008: Bush Says He Still Believes Iraq War Was The Fun Thing To Do.
July 2, 2008: Bush Tours America To Survey Damage Caused By His Disastrous
Presidency.
July 7, 2008: Steven Tyler Laid Off From Aerosmith As Band's Jobless Rate Hits
20%.
July 9, 2008: Bill Clinton Sadly Folds First Lady Dress Back Into Box.
July 11, 2008: Debt: Should The World Forgive Ours So We Can Be Rich Again?.
July 14, 2008: Recession-Plagued Nation Demands New Bubble To Invest In.
July 30, 2008: Al Gore Places Infant Son In Rocket To Escape Dying Planet.
August 12, 2008: Cheney On The Court.
August 20, 2008: Basketball Rolls To Stop At Cheney's Foot.
August 22, 2008: Bush Told To Sign Birthday Treaty For Someone Named 'Kyoto'.
August 26, 2008: Bush Lets War Widow Punch His Arm Once.
August 27, 2008: Cheney To Speak At Republican Convention From Section 109, Row
56, Seat 3.
September 1, 2008: Cheney Waits Until Last Minute Again To Buy Sept. 11 Gifts.
September 2, 2008: Gay War Hero Awarded Posthumous Dishonorable Discharge At
White House Ceremony.
September 3, 2008: Top Story On John McCain Run Out Of Obligation.
September 10, 2008: President Bush Only Has To Spend 20 Trillion To Inherit Bush
Family Fortune.
September 10, 2008: Economists Warn Anti-Bush Merchandise Market Close To
Collapse.
September 17, 2008: Infographic: Rumors Swirl Around Palin.
September 11, 2008: Obama Suddenly Panicked After Gazing Too Far Into Future.
September 17, 2008: Obama Deletes Another Unread MoveOn.org E-Mail.
September 22, 2008: Man Succumbs To Seven-Year Battle With Health Insurance.
September 24, 2008: Point/Counterpoint: Gov. Palin Has No Foreign Policy
Experience…
September 29, 2008: Palin Brushing Up On Foreign Policy At Epcot.
October 3, 2008: Bush Goes Blonde For Remainder Of Presidency.
October 7, 2008: Gunman Kills 15 Potential Voters In Crucial Swing State.
October 13, 2008: Michelle Obama All That Stands Between Love-Struck Media,
Barack Obama.
October 15, 2008: Bush Calls For Panic.
October 13, 2008: Financial Planner Advises Shorter Life Span.
October 17, 2008: John McCain Not Going To Ask Cindy McCain Twice.
October 20, 2008: Fleet Of Alien Destroyers Demand Details Of Obama's Universal
Health Care Plan.
October 24, 2008: Palin Family Just Sitting Around Living Room Eating Jerky.
October 24, 2008: Ron Paul Promises To Return When Country Needs Him Most.
October 26, 2008: Lieberman's Overlords Most Displeased.
October 29, 2008: As Election Draws Near, Area Man Moves To All-Obama T-Shirt
Rotation.
October 30, 2008: Struggling Lower Class Still Unsure How Best To Fuck Selves
With Vote.
November 1, 2008: Barbara Bush Runs Aground Off Coast Of Maine.
November 3, 2008: Bush Asks Advice For This Friend Of His Who Invaded Iraq.
November 4, 2008: Millions Of Voters Refuse To Exit Polls.
November 4, 2008: Bush: 'Can I Stop Being President Now?'
November 5, 2008: Black Man Given Nation's Worst Job.
November 12, 2008: Bush Tumbles Wildly Down Washington Monument Staircase.
November 17, 2008: Fraternity In Danger Of Losing House Launches Harebrained
Scheme To Fix Economy.
November 19, 2008: Crocodile Bites Off Bush's Arm.
November 24, 2008: In Thanksgiving Tradition, Bush Pardons Scooter Libby In
Giant Turkey Costume.
November 26, 2008: Vice President Cheney Burns Down White House Aviary.
November 28, 2008: Bush Passes Three-Pound Kidney Stone.
December 1, 2008: I'm Really Gonna Miss Systematically Destroying This Place.
December 2, 2008: U.S. Economy Continues Campaigning For Barack Obama.
December 4, 2008: Bush Dragged Behind Presidential Motorcade For 26 Blocks.
December 8, 2008: Bush's Eyelid Accidentally Nailed To Wall.
December 9, 2008: Supreme Court Overturns Bush v. Gore.
December 10, 2008: Bush Picks Laser Background For Presidential Portrait.
December 14, 2008: Bush Frustrated By Mother's Constant Questioning Of His Plans
Post-White House.
December 16, 2008: WaMu Files For ChapLev.
December 16, 2008: $700 Billion Bailout Celebrated With Lavish $800 Billion
Executive Party.
December 17, 2008: Outgoing First Lady Laura Bush Shows Michelle Obama Secret
White House Bone Closet.
December 18, 2008: America's First Gay President Concludes Historic Second Term.
January 6, 2009: Single-Engine Cessna Crashes Into Bush.
January 9, 2009: Vice President Cheney Seen Dragging Egg Sac Through West Wing.
January 12, 2009: Bush Spends Day Feverishly Booby-Trapping Desk.
January 13, 2009: Vice Presidential Handlers Lure Cheney Into Traveling Crate.
January 13, 2009: Congress Debates Adding Elaborate Dance To Obama's
Inauguration Ceremony.
January 14, 2009: Spider Eggs Hatch In Bush's Brain.
January 14, 2009: Bush, Cheney Stand Back-To-Back, Cock Shotguns One Last Time.

So there. All that remains now is for Bush to spend the rest of his life doing
penitential good works.*
....
]

Find those "WMDs" yet?
--
Cliff

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 2 2010 4:42 am
From: Cliff

On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:17:04 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
<Then-Destroy-Everything@Talk-n-dog.com> wrote:

>On 3/1/2010 3:02 PM, Cliff wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 10:43:05 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
>> <Then-Destroy-Everything@Talk-n-dog.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/27/2010 10:37 AM, Aratzio wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 08:40:13 -0500, in the land of alt.usenet.kooks,
>>>> Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-Everything@Talk-n-dog.com> got double
>>>> secret probation for writing:
>>>>
>>>>> What was the Basis for "intelligence" was it problem solving, Liberals
>>>>> are a big fat ugly zero when it comes to being problem solvers, they
>>>>> live in Utopia-land and they solve gas problems by riding their Unicorns
>>>>> to work every day.
>>>>
>>>> Nothing ironical about declaring your opponent delusional by
>>>> describing your delusional depiction of them.
>>>>
>>> humor is powerful.
>>
>> You keep tripping over it.
>
>It's amusing that you recognize any of it. Intended or NOT.
>
>Double entendre
>Facetiousness
>Sarcasm
>Metaphors
>
>Most of it zings right past you Liberals but it's nice to see it's not
>always wasted. I don't claim to be an intelligent Liberal... so my
>being delusional wasn't a problem. I kinda think I made it look good on
>paper(what intelligent Liberals do) and made the point that Intelligent
>Liberals are pompous and their exercise in mental yoga(twisting things
>into unreal shapes) isn't impressive. They have yet to solve the
>problems of the world, in fact they are causing more problems than they
>solve, they even shoot each other like crazy religious zealots(Libs
>really hate to be considered equals to religious people) in the military.
>
>I got a chuckle out of writing it, it was funny on so many levels.
>The original story said the educated Liberals were perceived as ugly
>freaks. Utopia-land equals Academia... Unicorns are wind and solar
>powered cars.
>
>
>I'm still chucking.

Over the results of your spelling checker?
--
Cliff

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 2 2010 5:23 am
From: rangerssuck

On Mar 1, 11:06 pm, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost)
wrote:
> rangerssuck <rangerss...@gmail.com> wrote innews:b40a6bd6-9066-4ba1-a709-db6199eca54d@f8g2000yqn.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 28, 11:58 pm, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost)
> > wrote:
> >> rangerssuck <rangerss...@gmail.com> wrote
> >> innews:feb8a368-cd22-4aba-9085-08e83e343bf5@e1g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> > On Feb 27, 11:26 pm, ozarkhe...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> >> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:51:39 -0800 (PST), rangerssuck
>
> >> >> <rangerss...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >On Feb 27, 11:51 am, Aratzio <a6ahly...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 10:43:05 -0500, in the land of
> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks, Beam Me Up Scotty
> >> >> >> <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Talk-n-dog.com> got double secret
> >> >> >> probation for writing:
>
> >> >> >> >On 2/27/2010 10:37 AM, Aratzio wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 08:40:13 -0500, in the land of
> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks, Beam Me Up Scotty
> >> >> >> >> <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Talk-n-dog.com> got double secret
> >> >> >> >> probation for writing:
>
> >> >> >> >>> What was the Basis for "intelligence" was it problem solving,
> >> >> >> >>> Liberals are a big fat ugly zero when it comes to being
> >> >> >> >>> problem solvers, they live in Utopia-land and they solve gas
> >> >> >> >>> problems by riding their Unicorns to work every day.
>
> >> >> >> >> Nothing ironical about declaring your opponent delusional by
> >> >> >> >> describing your delusional depiction of them.
>
> >> >> >> >humor is powerful.
>
> >> >> >> I agree, nothing quite as funny as someone dumb as a stump
> >> >> >> expounding that their *common sense* trumps actual intelligence.
>
> >> >> >This is reminding me an awful lot of an incident with my boss, a
> >> >> >real winger, about 30 years ago. I was designing a rather
> >> >> >complicated piece of computer equipment, and he was writing the
> >> >> >manual. He asked me to read it. It was full of bad grammar and
> >> >> >misspelled words. I pointed this out to him, trying to be
> >> >> >diplomatic. He replied, "The New York Times is written on a sixth
> >> >> >grade reading level." I explained to him that when they say that,
> >> >> >they mean that the Times can be read by a sixth grader, not that it
> >> >> >was written by a sixth grader. His response was along the lines of,
> >> >> >"Well, you don't want to sound too smart, it will scare the
> >> >> >customers."
>
> >> >> >Sheesh
>
> >> >> I know what you mean. I recall the leftwing nut who told me that it
> >> >> would be eay to feed all the homeless people, just let them eat at
> >> >> McD's and send the government the bill - and she was dead serious.
>
> >> > Yes, they are out there - on both sides. the same *RIGHT* wing boss
> >> > who had the bad grammar suggested that the entire middle-east conflict
> >> > could be solved if all the Israelis (about 3.5 million at the time,
> >> > IFRC) would just get on planes with all there belongings and go,
> >> > maybe, to Australia. And HE was dead serious.
>
> >> > Idiocy know no political boundaries.
>
> >> Y'all want to provide a reference for that or shall we just take your
> >> word for it?
>
> > I think it's been thoroughly demonstrated in this group.
>
> Big sigh. I had no idea illiteracy was so prevalent.
>
> I was referring to the claim that a right winf "boss" suggested that the
> Israelis leave Israel.
>
> You aren't that stupid are you?
>
> --

Oh, excuse me, I left my tape recorder home that day. This was a
conversation between me and the guy who signed my pay checks 30 years
ago. What did you think I was talking about?

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 2 2010 5:27 am
From: rangerssuck

On Mar 1, 8:53 pm, ozarkhe...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 07:41:15 -0800 (PST), rangerssuck
>
>
>
>
>
> <rangerss...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 1, 12:45 am, ozarkhe...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:24:11 -0800 (PST), rangerssuck
>
> >> <rangerss...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Feb 27, 11:26 pm, ozarkhe...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> >> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:51:39 -0800 (PST), rangerssuck
>
> >> >> <rangerss...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >On Feb 27, 11:51 am, Aratzio <a6ahly...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 10:43:05 -0500, in the land of alt.usenet.kooks,
> >> >> >> Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Talk-n-dog.com> got double
> >> >> >> secret probation for writing:
>
> >> >> >> >On 2/27/2010 10:37 AM, Aratzio wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 08:40:13 -0500, in the land of alt.usenet.kooks,
> >> >> >> >> Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Talk-n-dog.com> got double
> >> >> >> >> secret probation for writing:
>
> >> >> >> >>> What was the Basis for "intelligence" was it problem solving, Liberals
> >> >> >> >>> are a big fat ugly zero when it comes to being problem solvers, they
> >> >> >> >>> live in Utopia-land and they solve gas problems by riding their Unicorns
> >> >> >> >>> to work every day.
>
> >> >> >> >> Nothing ironical about declaring your opponent delusional by
> >> >> >> >> describing your delusional depiction of them.
>
> >> >> >> >humor is powerful.
>
> >> >> >> I agree, nothing quite as funny as someone dumb as a stump expounding
> >> >> >> that their *common sense* trumps actual intelligence.
>
> >> >> >This is reminding me an awful lot of an incident with my boss, a real
> >> >> >winger, about 30 years ago. I was designing a rather complicated piece
> >> >> >of computer equipment, and he was writing the manual. He asked me to
> >> >> >read it. It was full of bad grammar and misspelled words. I pointed
> >> >> >this out to him, trying to be diplomatic. He replied, "The New York
> >> >> >Times is written on a sixth grade reading level." I explained to him
> >> >> >that when they say that, they mean that the Times can be read by a
> >> >> >sixth grader, not that it was written by a sixth grader. His response
> >> >> >was along the lines of, "Well, you don't want to sound too smart, it
> >> >> >will scare the customers."
>
> >> >> >Sheesh
>
> >> >> I know what you mean. I recall the leftwing nut who told me that it
> >> >> would be eay to feed all the homeless people, just let them eat at
> >> >> McD's and send the government the bill - and she was dead serious.
>
> >> >Yes, they are out there - on both sides. the same *RIGHT* wing boss
> >> >who had the bad grammar suggested that the entire middle-east conflict
> >> >could be solved if all the Israelis (about 3.5 million at the time,
> >> >IFRC) would just get on planes with all there belongings and go,
> >> >maybe, to Australia. And HE was dead serious.
>
> >> >Idiocy know no political boundaries.
>
> >> Indeed; but it seems to flourishthe best on the left
>
> >That's YOUR opinion.
>
> Yep - and that is what America is all about. Left wingers want to
> remove that.

Want to remove what? Opposing opinions? I guess I never got that memo
from headquarters. On the other hand, you can look right here in this
group and see who killfiles whom. It is virtually all right wingers
who can't stand to read the posts of those on the left.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 2 2010 6:17 am
From: Beam Me Up Scotty

On 3/2/2010 7:42 AM, Cliff wrote:
> On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:17:04 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
> <Then-Destroy-Everything@Talk-n-dog.com> wrote:
>
>> On 3/1/2010 3:02 PM, Cliff wrote:
>>> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 10:43:05 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
>>> <Then-Destroy-Everything@Talk-n-dog.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/27/2010 10:37 AM, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 08:40:13 -0500, in the land of alt.usenet.kooks,
>>>>> Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-Everything@Talk-n-dog.com> got double
>>>>> secret probation for writing:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What was the Basis for "intelligence" was it problem solving, Liberals
>>>>>> are a big fat ugly zero when it comes to being problem solvers, they
>>>>>> live in Utopia-land and they solve gas problems by riding their Unicorns
>>>>>> to work every day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing ironical about declaring your opponent delusional by
>>>>> describing your delusional depiction of them.
>>>>>
>>>> humor is powerful.
>>>
>>> You keep tripping over it.
>>
>> It's amusing that you recognize any of it. Intended or NOT.
>>
>> Double entendre
>> Facetiousness
>> Sarcasm
>> Metaphors
>>
>> Most of it zings right past you Liberals but it's nice to see it's not
>> always wasted. I don't claim to be an intelligent Liberal... so my
>> being delusional wasn't a problem. I kinda think I made it look good on
>> paper(what intelligent Liberals do) and made the point that Intelligent
>> Liberals are pompous and their exercise in mental yoga(twisting things
>> into unreal shapes) isn't impressive. They have yet to solve the
>> problems of the world, in fact they are causing more problems than they
>> solve, they even shoot each other like crazy religious zealots(Libs
>> really hate to be considered equals to religious people) in the military.
>>
>> I got a chuckle out of writing it, it was funny on so many levels.
>> The original story said the educated Liberals were perceived as ugly
>> freaks. Utopia-land equals Academia... Unicorns are wind and solar
>> powered cars.
>>
>>
>> I'm still chucking.
>
> Over the results of your spelling checker?
Yep and didn't I get something spelled wrong here?

I'm sure I get at leest one per post, I try to remember.

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TOPIC: Docs to Chimpbama: You drink too much!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/3f4c5be11e10a39a?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 2 2010 5:10 am
From: "Burled Frau"

"Buerste" <buerste@buerste.com> wrote in message
news:q44jn.41131$K81.11493@newsfe18.iad...
>
> "Hawke" <davesmithers@digitalpath.net> wrote in message
> news:hmiakl$c1v$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>
>>>>>> The doctors also recommended "moderation of alcohol intake".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> as compared to Bush who was an alcoholic?
>>>>
>>>> You mean Obama the alcoholic. Bush didn't drink. Why do you think
>>>> Obama's
>>>> doctors told him to moderate his alcohol intake? Certainly they weren't
>>>> thinking that he drank too little and needed to moderate it up. Makes
>>>> sense,
>>>> cigarette smoking, crack snorting, and now this. The man is a weak tit.
>>>>
>>> Doctors ALWAYS recommend moderation of alcohol intake. According to
>>> doctors more than one drink a day is too much. A doctor telling Obama
>>> to use moderation is normal, all doctors say that to anyone who drinks
>>> socially. An Bush did drink. He is an alcoholic. They hid it from
>>> the press, but he still drank. Remember the prestel incident? He
>>> fell down and choked on a pretzel because he was drunk. And he was a
>>> spoiled rich boy coke head when he was a cheerleader in college too.
>>
>> You're correct. What doctors call moderate alcohol intake is one drink a
>> couple of times a week. Personally, I never met anyone who drank that
>> little. Anybody that drinks has more than one and more than once or twice
>> a week. If you drink less than that you don't drink at all. If you go by
>> the doctor's standards Burled Frau is an alcoholic. Of course, he is by
>> anybody else's standard too. That's what has caused the loss of so many
>> of his brain cells. Even more proof is that he actually believes
>> republican propaganda.
>>
>>
>> Hawke
>
> I cant believe that ANYONE would begrudge Obama smokes and beers! As much
> as I disagree with him, he's still a fellow guy and guys have rights!
>

The jury is still out on that one. Did you see his boobs?

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 2 2010 5:14 am
From: "Burled Frau"

"Hawke" <davesmithers@digitalpath.net> wrote in message
news:hmiakl$c1v$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>
>>>>> The doctors also recommended "moderation of alcohol intake".
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> as compared to Bush who was an alcoholic?
>>>
>>> You mean Obama the alcoholic. Bush didn't drink. Why do you think
>>> Obama's
>>> doctors told him to moderate his alcohol intake? Certainly they weren't
>>> thinking that he drank too little and needed to moderate it up. Makes
>>> sense,
>>> cigarette smoking, crack snorting, and now this. The man is a weak tit.
>>>
>> Doctors ALWAYS recommend moderation of alcohol intake. According to
>> doctors more than one drink a day is too much. A doctor telling Obama
>> to use moderation is normal, all doctors say that to anyone who drinks
>> socially. An Bush did drink. He is an alcoholic. They hid it from
>> the press, but he still drank. Remember the prestel incident? He
>> fell down and choked on a pretzel because he was drunk. And he was a
>> spoiled rich boy coke head when he was a cheerleader in college too.
>
> You're correct. What doctors call moderate alcohol intake is one drink a
> couple of times a week. Personally, I never met anyone who drank that
> little. Anybody that drinks has more than one and more than once or twice
> a week. If you drink less than that you don't drink at all. If you go by
> the doctor's standards Burled Frau is an alcoholic. Of course, he is by
> anybody else's standard too. That's what has caused the loss of so many of
> his brain cells. Even more proof is that he actually believes republican
> propaganda.
>
>

You are incorrect. Moderate drinking is one drink per day for a woman, one
or two drinks a day for a man per day. Obama's pounding a fifth of Jack
nightly is not considered moderate. They did experiments with chimps and
0bama shows the same chimp behavior. Of course it's possible that it's not
due to the alcohol at all.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 2 2010 5:22 am
From: "Stormin Mormon"

We campaign against drunk driving. What's worse?
Drunk driving where you can kill one, or drunk
running the country when you can kill us all?

Who wants a nic fitting shaky hand on the nuclear
button?

Nevermind that the Constitution only grants
specific powers to the Pres. They talk about
"running the country" and I'm replying in context.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

"Buerste" <buerste@buerste.com>

wrote in message
news:q44jn.41131$K81.11493@newsfe18.iad...

I cant believe that ANYONE would begrudge Obama
smokes and beers! As much
as I disagree with him, he's still a fellow guy
and guys have rights!

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 2 2010 5:24 am
From: "Stormin Mormon"

Might be a cultural thing? He's showing his Kenyan
nationality?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

"Burled Frau" <achtung@jawol.jah> wrote in message
news:4b8d0f47@news.x-privat.org...

You are incorrect. Moderate drinking is one drink
per day for a woman, one
or two drinks a day for a man per day. Obama's
pounding a fifth of Jack
nightly is not considered moderate. They did
experiments with chimps and
0bama shows the same chimp behavior. Of course
it's possible that it's not
due to the alcohol at all.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 2 2010 5:27 am
From: hal

On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 07:14:37 -0600, "Burled Frau" <achtung@jawol.jah>
wrote:

>>
>> You're correct. What doctors call moderate alcohol intake is one drink a
>> couple of times a week. Personally, I never met anyone who drank that
>> little. Anybody that drinks has more than one and more than once or twice
>> a week. If you drink less than that you don't drink at all. If you go by
>> the doctor's standards Burled Frau is an alcoholic. Of course, he is by
>> anybody else's standard too. That's what has caused the loss of so many of
>> his brain cells. Even more proof is that he actually believes republican
>> propaganda.
>>
>>
>
>You are incorrect. Moderate drinking is one drink per day for a woman, one
>or two drinks a day for a man per day. Obama's pounding a fifth of Jack
>nightly is not considered moderate.

Where did you get that lying shit from? Out yer ass, where you find
everything else?

> They did experiments with chimps and
>0bama shows the same chimp behavior. Of course it's possible that it's not
>due to the alcohol at all.
>
Guess it doesn't matter toy you Bush was an alchoholic, a coke head,
and a military deserter.

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TOPIC: Quality
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/58966da7490289c4?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 2 2010 5:13 am
From:

Befor buying any machinery you should think of quality not so much price. A
little more and you can have something that will last for years where save a
buck and it only last a few months.

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TOPIC: OT: 'Puter Q-How to boot to 2 OS HDS?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/24653b355459ad9c?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 2 2010 5:25 am
From: mike

On Mar 1, 10:04 pm, JR North <junkjasonrno...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> The 95 HDD is slaved to C
> JR
> Dweller in the cellar
>
> JR North wrote:
> > Have ME on C, 95 on D. Besides unplugging C (hard to get to), how can I
> > force a boot to the 95 HD? no option in BIOS to select different HDDs.
> > JR
> > Dweller in the cellar
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Home Page:http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth
> If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes
> Doubt yourself, and the real world will eat you alive
> The world doesn't revolve around you, it revolves around me
> No skeletons in the closet; just decomposing corpses
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Dependence is Vulnerability:
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> "Open the Pod Bay Doors please, Hal"
> "I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.."

Do you have an old DOS start-up floppy with fdisk on it? If so, you
might be able to go into fdisk, make the 'D' drive active, and then it
should boot from the D...that was 'should', no guarantees as we're
talking Micro$oft and old computer components.

Mike

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TOPIC: Ping Iggy {was: OT - Vindicating John Yoo...}
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/654d9a205e95bb7e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 2 2010 5:27 am
From: Ignoramus5280

On 2010-03-02, Steve Ackman <steve@SNIP-THIS.twoloonscoffee.com> wrote:
>>> I don't know why Iggy's slrn (an older version than
>>> mine) managed to read between the angles while mine
>>> didn't, but I've posed the question on
>>> news.software.readers where a number of newsreader
>>> authors have been known to check in.
>>
>> It will be interesting what they say.
>
> Hey Iggy,
>
> I wonder if you'd pop over to nsr and post the
> results of
>
> $ slrn --version
>
> to the thread,
> [slrn] enable URL angle bracket support?
>
> Also make sure I've described the situation accurately
> as it pertains to your results with angle brackets
> around a multi-line URL? Thanks.
>

I want to make two points.

1. Even though my slrn supports angle brackets in Joe Gwinn's style,
it is useless to me, as I read news through ssh most of the time -- so
the browser does not start on the machine where I have the X session.
That's why having a URL that I can click from a Terminal app, would be
better for me.

2. Here's my slrn version. This is stock slrn from Ubuntu Karmic.

slrn --version
slrn pre1.0.0-11
* Note: This version is a developer preview.
S-Lang Library Version: 2.1.4
Compiled at: Jun 15 2009 14:44:11
Operating System: Linux

COMPILE TIME OPTIONS:
Backends: +nntp +slrnpull +spool
External programs / libs: +canlock +inews +ssl +uudeview +iconv
Features: +decoding +emphasized_text +end_of_thread +fake_refs
+gen_msgid
-grouplens -msgid_cache +piping +rnlock +spoilers -strict_from
Using 64 bit integers for article numbers.

DEFAULTS:
Default server object: nntp
Default posting mechanism: nntp

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TOPIC: Plugging up cap screw holes for painting
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/589a46d20250a2e1?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 2 2010 5:29 am
From: Ignoramus5280

On 2010-03-02, Don Foreman <dforeman@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 12:16:30 -0600, Ignoramus11220
><ignoramus11220@NOSPAM.11220.invalid> wrote:
>
>>I will paint part of my lathe today, with epoxy paint. I want to plug
>>up various socket head cap screw holes, so that epoxy does not get
>>in, for obvious reasons. What is the best substance to do so, maybe
>>wood putty?
>>
>>i
>
> Mr. Holland, a gunsmith who does some superb epoxy pillar bedding of
> rifle actions, uses plumber's putty.

Don, plumber's putty worked out very well. I primed about half of my
lathe with epoxy zinc filled primer, last night. Since epoxy is pretty
tough stuff, I did not want it to get inside the screw heads or seal
their perimeter.

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TOPIC: Glenn Beck Has Gone from Crazy Talk to Dangerous Incitement
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/03ecfef2321238cb?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 2 2010 5:33 am
From: D Murphy

Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySurmudgeon@live.com> wrote in
news:hmi63o$514$6@news.eternal-september.org:

> On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 04:15:29 +0000, D Murphy <dmurf154@att.net> wrote:
>
>> Libs are so much smarter than everyone else.
>
> Putting yourself on a pedestal? After years of defending Bushs'
> prolific spending you've suddenly got religion on conservation of
> wealth?

You got all of that from a discussio of hack journalism?

>
> Convenient. Run up bills then bitch about the next guy trying to pay
> your tab...
>

That would be the Baby Boom generation.

Dan

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TOPIC: building jeep frame
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/32fc57a529507b1b?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 2 2010 6:02 am
From: "Ed Huntress"

"John D." <johndslocomb@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:1rtpo5t6pt8kqubp3m6aaau3v0l2lj2cme@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 02:28:52 -0500, "Ed Huntress"
> <huntres23@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"John D." <johndslocomb@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>news:04cpo55k998uu2a94ebd7k1s1a5f3e2po3@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:52:39 -0500, "Ed Huntress"
>>> <huntres23@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Bill McKee" <bmckeespamnot@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:qZ6dnaBKsPYVoxHWnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> "RAM�" <s31924.nospam@netscape.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Xns9D2EA3292F188s31924netscapenet@74.209.131.10...
>>>>>> "Bill McKee" <bmckeespamnot@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:ca6dnfBx8ZKbmxHWnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@earthlink.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why not aluminum? I have an aluminum boat trailer. Works very
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>> 3400# boat. The Covette has an aluminum frame as well as the
>>>>>>> Cadillac
>>>>>>> bodied Vette. Look at a Corvette and see what they use. Airplanes
>>>>>>> have aluminum frames. And as long as you design well, the flex
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> not be a problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Boat trailers are rarely twisted the way that off-road vehicles
>>>>>> routinely
>>>>>> are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The same thing applies to Corvettes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After all, when was the last time that you went rock-crawling with
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> 'Vette? <Grin>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How about mud-bogging or bouncing around on deeply-rutted roads?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeeps are expected to do all of these and more without any ill
>>>>>> effects.
>>>>>> (Getting dirty/muddy is, for a Jeep, a good thing!)
>>>>>
>>>>> Hell, I raced a vette, steel chassis, and it got to rock clrawing a
>>>>> couple
>>>>> times. :>) And boat trailers are regularly towed over uneven ground.
>>>>
>>>>With three points taking out the loads -- hitch and suspension supports,
>>>>which generally are paired but close -- there is no significant
>>>>torsional
>>>>load on a boat trailer. It's all simple bending. You can deal with that,
>>>>but
>>>>if you towed your boat 100% of the time, I think you'd develop fatigue
>>>>problems in aluminum.
>>>>
>>>>The aluminum Corvette chassis are semi-space-frame with some shear
>>>>panels.
>>>>The subframes resolve their loads in three dimensions. There isn't much
>>>>flexing there.
>>>>
>>>>The same applies to aircraft, which often are near-monocoque. If they
>>>>flex,
>>>>you die.
>>>
>>> Error.. ever see the wings on a B-52? When they taxi out for take-off
>>> both outrigger wheels are on the ground; when they come back one
>>> outrigger will be ten feet in the air. But not only the wings, a B-52
>>> on the ground has large wrinkles on each side of the fuselage, forward
>>> of the wings; flying the fuselage is smooth.
>>>
>>>
>>> John D.
>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>
>>I don't know what the structure of a B-52 looks like, John, but it must be
>>far removed from a true monocoque. If a monocoque's skin wrinkled in
>>compression, all integrity would be gone, and it would completely
>>collapse.
>>
>>The wings contain spars -- the skin is stressed in tension but takes no
>>compressive loads. That's stressed-skin but not monocoque. Most metal
>>aircraft wings are made like that.
>>
>>I was referring to the fuselage, of which there are many different
>>designs.
>>As far back as the British Mosquito bomber of WWII, some aircraft have had
>>near-monocoque designs, which depend on the skin (which sometimes is cored
>>sandwiches, as on the Mosquito, and not a single sheet) to handle tensile,
>>compression, and shear loads. As you approach a true monocoque, any
>>stringers and ribs are there to help keep the skin's shape, rather than to
>>directly take out the major loads.
>
> The only true monocoque airplane structure that I have seen is various
> light aircraft and even then it is from the rear of the cockpit back
> to the tail skid. The B-52 forward section is not a pure monocoque as
> there is substantial structure to built the "two deck" upper and lower
> areas so there are various formers and bearers but I suspect that the
> skin does support a substantial amount of the load.
>
> Are you sure that the Mosquito had a "cored" structure? I thought it
> was cold molded - just layers of veneer glued together.

IIRC, it's wood veneer skins over an end-grain balsa core. It did have
bulkheads to maintain the fuselage's shape.

--
Ed Huntress

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TOPIC: Feb Factory Growth Holds At 15 - Year High
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/413a4b8ce0ad53aa?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 2 2010 6:05 am
From: D Murphy

"Ed Huntress" <huntres23@optonline.net> wrote in
news:4b8c8f2f$0$4976$607ed4bc@cv.net:

> I'm curious, Dan: Why do you do things like that? Do you think that no
> one will follow your links, and that you can get away with saying any
> nonsense you want to, and that it will stick because you're implying
> it came from the item you're citing?
>

Manufacturing growth certainly isn't at a 15 year high per Cliff's claim.

I linked to the article to show that manufacturing growth was not at a 15
year high, and in fact growth was weakening, inventories are up, and
production is down.

> I just wonder how peoples' minds work.

Gee, why would I want to refute a guy who uses data FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY to
claim that things are just wonderful HERE?

Yeah, that's a tough one to figure out.

BTW, you can have weakening growth, strengthening growth and even seven
months of growth, and still have the sector down over the longer term. So
yeah, manufacturing is getting a little better but it still sucks compared
to 12-18 months ago.

Dan

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TOPIC: Bunning offers middle finger
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/780afc0aa6cecab7?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 2 2010 6:37 am
From: Beam Me Up Scotty

On 3/2/2010 7:11 AM, Cliff wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 15:17:48 -0800 (PST), znuybv <tjwilson@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Feb 26, 10:42 pm, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om>
>> wrote:
>>> http://www.examiner.com/x-20026-Pittsburgh-Nonpartisan-Examiner~y2010...
>>> [
>>> In the latest afflicted act of callousness by the right wing, Senator Jim
>>> Bunning has filibustered federal extension of Unemployment Benefits.
>>>
>>> The Senate adjourned Friday without approving extensions of health insurance and
>>> cash benefits for the unemployed, as well as a handful of other federal programs
>>> that run out Sunday, after a lone senator insisted that Congress pay for the $10
>>> billion package.~source
>>> ]
>>>
>>> http://edition.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/02/26/senate.jobless.benefits/
>>> "Lone senator blocks unemployment benefit extensions"
>>> [
>>> ....
>>> Starting Monday, the jobless will no longer be able to apply for federal
>>> unemployment benefits or the COBRA health insurance subsidy.
>>> ...
>>> ]
>>
>> The Federal government doesn't have any money. How can it pay the
>> unemployed? Borrow money?
>
> It's always nice to see wingers & rethugs demand that taxes
> be increased.

But how about cutting the waste and superfluous government from the bill
if you are going to say I have to pay the bill....

I thought the women's rights movement was to make them equal and to be
equal they had to pay and could ask out men and pay tabs. So they
wouldn't feel like property..... When do I get to allow Liberals to pay
their bills and pick up the tab so they can feel like they aren't
property? Didn't You *Liberals just turn women back into property* by
demanding that rich fat cat Republicans pay the way for Liberals and women?

> Please tell the umemployed that their health insurance is also lost.

LOST?

When was it ever guaranteed?

If you want a guarantee, buy a GM made car....

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TOPIC: Dear Sarah Palin
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/49995c2bf299dcdf?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 2 2010 6:44 am
From: Lookout

On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 07:07:00 -0500, Cliff
<Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:

>On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 18:06:15 -0800, tankfixer <paul.carrier@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> >> Did you "think" you'd not be noticed lying yet again?
>>> >
>>> >You lie in practically every post you make.
>>>
>>> Find those "WMDs" yet?
>>
>>You have a macro for that don't you ?
>>You trot it out every time you are afraid
>
> Find those "WMDs" yet?
> It was wingers promoting terror with their lies, not me.
> You & your ilk fell for it. As always.
> Suckers.

Answer the question. Did you, or anyone else find the WMDs that bush,
Cheney, Rumsfeld and Powell claimed were there?

> It was wingers promoting terror with their lies, not me."

Nope. That was bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Powell. You were just stupid
enough to believe them.

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TOPIC: Turner Troubles
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/98d09d04b39d9791?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 2 2010 6:44 am
From: Beam Me Up Scotty

On 3/2/2010 6:59 AM, Cliff wrote:
>
> http://www.northjersey.com/news/crime_courts/030110_Retrial_opens_for_North_Bergen_right-wing_Internet_radio_host_Hal_Turner.html
> "Retrial opens for North Bergen right-wing Internet radio host Hal Turner"
> [
> Internet radio talk show host Hal Turner so �despised� a ruling upholding a
> handgun ban in Chicago that he threatened the lives of three federal appeals
> court judges in a bid to silence them, a prosecutor said Monday.

The effort to silence the opponents of the Left is under way....

They will silence the talk radio/internet with charges they conjure up
to make some examples and try to send shock waves of fear to silence WE
THE PEOPLE.

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TOPIC: Security for wingers
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/e56c2d721c49d129?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 2 2010 7:05 am
From: Gerald Abrahamson

On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 04:52:28 -0500, Cliff
<Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:

> http://www.idstronghold.com/Credit-Card-RFID-Blocking-Sleeves/products/5/
> "designed to shieldi RFID signals and protect a single identification, credit
>card, debit card, transit card, mifare card, passport card, TWIC or enhanced
>drivers license."

Reynolds must hold the market for aluminum foil hats....

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