Saturday, November 16, 2013

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Today's topics:

* For The Survivalists... Apocalyptic Can Opener - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/21144f8a3c868ca1?hl=en
* The rich pay less taxes - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/60e3bc56d2438bd8?hl=en
* It's time to stop paying WalMart Welfare - 6 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/48e27742b0ec7f43?hl=en
* Tom Gardner still here? - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/7eb69fec8763bff1?hl=en
* Thermostat set back and other energy savings - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/f4607bbef63d250f?hl=en
* When Did Christian Values Change From 'Love Thy Neighbor' to 'Fuck Off and
Die'? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/5a707d69dc51746e?hl=en
* Fabricating 3-D weapons has come a long way - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/968637bccba46e88?hl=en
* Thermostat set-back - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/06857df984d7bae1?hl=en
* Can a Asch be killed but NOT be married? - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/d2b624b4ab616239?hl=en
* Heavy duty sewing shops? - 4 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/d3a5b35354cbb8f8?hl=en
* Do You Believe Obama This Time? How About Now? …Now? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/f69b8420ab34ecef?hl=en
* Wanted for Treason Flyer - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/72907b45a8635650?hl=en

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TOPIC: For The Survivalists... Apocalyptic Can Opener
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/21144f8a3c868ca1?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 16 2013 3:35 am
From: Gunner Asch


On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 13:12:01 -0800 (PST), BottleBob
<bottlbob@earthlink.net> wrote:

>On Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:09:49 PM UTC-8, BottleBob wrote:
>> All:
>>
>>
>>
>> I apologize if this has been posted before, or is common knowledge. But I just got this forward and thought I'd pass it along. I'm sure someone will actually try this and let us know if it really works as advertised.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> BottleBob
>>
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~bottlbob
>>
>>
>>
>> #83
>>
>> Theoretical speculations
>>
>> Biased interpretations
>>
>> Bogus evaluations
>>
>> Are all eliminated by experimentation
>
>Opps Sorry. It would help if I actually sent the forward, eh?
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH2NahLjx-Y#t=166

Yes, it does work. Asphalt works quicker btw. Or an old rough
sidewalk

Its a good $20 bet winner btw.

Gunner

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== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 16 2013 3:48 am
From: Gunner Asch


On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 18:59:20 -0800, Larry Jaques
<ljaques@invalid.diversifycomm.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 16:44:48 -0800, "azotic" <H.Beal@network.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"BottleBob" <bottlbob@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>news:fae453d1-09b0-4374-a7f6-5c6f5ce68aa9@googlegroups.com...
>>> All:
>>>
>>> I apologize if this has been posted before, or is common knowledge.
>>> But I just got this forward and thought I'd pass it along. I'm sure
>>> someone will actually try this and let us know if it really works as
>>> advertised.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> BottleBob
>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~bottlbob
>>
>>
>>C.H.U.D.S. Don't need no stinken can opener.
>
>'Splain your acronym, please, Tom.
>
>And I have a P-51 on my keychain, JIC. I like it better than the tiny
>P-38 they used in WWII, y'know, for my large and manly hands.

Thats standard equpment for any survivalist, plus a couple in the
glove box, one in the wallet, one sewed to the inside of ones belt etc
etc

Sharpen the corner into a screw driver shape..it will get some screws
tight/loose. Sharpen the other corner into a blade..it will skin a
rabbit. Messy...but it works

Also micro multitools that hang nicely on ones keychain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiICjsi4G7U

I carry the Leatherman Micra and have standardized on them on all the
keychains here on the homestead. They simply work Good. Even the
tweezers.

http://www.leatherman.com/20.html




Gunner

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== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 16 2013 4:33 am
From: "Jim Wilkins"


"Gunner Asch" <gunnerasch@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:v5me89h42j1vp9ojt64mdn5gut7l16r14g@4ax.com...
>
> Sharpen the corner into a screw driver shape..it will get some
> screws
> tight/loose. Sharpen the other corner into a blade..it will skin a
> rabbit. Messy...but it works
>
> Gunner

I've carried a $5 copy of the Swiss Army Knife for decades:
http://swiss-army-military-knife.all-about-switzerland.info/swissarmyknives/swiss-army-knife-military-edition_1099rs.jpg
The small screwdriver on the tip of the can opener works on #2
Phillips if they aren't too tight. The tapered point is a drill bit
that makes starting holes for wood screws. Sulphuric acid doesn't
attack the stainless steel flat blade after it pops the vent caps off
a battery.

The can opener may be slower than the video showed but the knife is
easier to carry than a chunk of concrete.
jsw







== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 16 2013 5:15 am
From: "David R. Birch"


On 11/16/2013 5:35 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:

>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH2NahLjx-Y#t=166
>
> Yes, it does work. Asphalt works quicker btw. Or an old rough
> sidewalk
>
> Its a good $20 bet winner btw.
>
> Gunner

There seems to be a cut in the video from where the concrete rubbing
starts to where he's ready to squeeze the can. How long would it take
for a small can like he shows?

I'm sure it would take quite a while for that ammo can! If I were using
a lot of the Russian spam can ammo in the field, I think I'd carry an
extra key.

David






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TOPIC: The rich pay less taxes
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/60e3bc56d2438bd8?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 16 2013 4:03 am
From: Gunner Asch


On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 12:32:00 -0600, RD Sandman
<rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote:

>Gronk <invalid@usenetlove.invalid> wrote in
>news:l63e1h$5il$1@news.mixmin.net:
>
>> Scout wrote:
>>> "Save The Rich" <yeung@yahoo.ch> wrote in message
>>> news:l5mi27$cb1$1@news.albasani.net...
>>>> Bill Shatzer wrote on 11/09/2013 :
>>>>> Wayne wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> -snips-
>>>>>
>>>>>> Democrats and republicans. Otherwise the mortgage interest
>>>>>> deduction would have been repealed.
>>>>>
>>>>>> And it should be repealed. I own my home outright and get no
>>>>>> deduction for ownership.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure you do. The property taxes are deductible plus when you sell
>>>>> the old homestead, the first quarter million of capital gains (half
>>>>> million if you're married) is exempt from taxes.
>>>>
>>>> I don't see why the rich should pay any taxes. After all, Reagan's
>>>> Trickle Down economic theory dictates that the wealthier the rich
>>>> get, the more jobs await us, trickling down to our begging hands.
>>>
>>> Yep, and the result was the longest period of sustained economic
>>> growth in US history......
>>
>> With no trickle down, only trickle up. Income disparity grew.
>>
>> http://www.forbes.com/sites/louiswoodhill/2013/03/28/the-mystery-of-inc
>> ome-inequality-broken-down-to-one-simple-chart/
>
>Interesting that the big jump in that disparity happened during the
>Clinton administration from 1996 through 2000. Then it fell off from
>2000 to 2003 when it started climbing again reaching a peak in 2007 when
>the recession come into play.

And 2007 was the year Democrats took both houses of Congress


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TOPIC: It's time to stop paying WalMart Welfare
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/48e27742b0ec7f43?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 16 2013 4:20 am
From: jim <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m@mwt.net>




Rudy Canoza danced again:

> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> For junior employees, the minimum rates are:
> >>>>>> Under 16 years of age $5.87
> >>>>>> At 16 years of age $7.55
> >>>>>> At 17 years of age $9.22
> >>>>>> At 18 years of age $10.90
> >>>>>> At 19 years of age $13.17
> >>>>>> At 20 years of age $15.59.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://cafehayek.com/2013/03/australias-minimum-wage.html
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The minimum wage in Australia isn't what you claim.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> yes it is.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The starting federal minimum wage for under 20 age group
> >>>>> in the US is $4.25
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> there seems to be a crack in your logic. The guy says "The minimum
> >>>> wage in Australia isn't what you claim."
> >>>>
> >>>> You reply "yes it is. The starting federal minimum wage for under 20
> >>>> age group in the US is $4.25"
> >>>>
> >>>> Seems like apples and apples doesn't apply to wages.
> >>>
> >>> I see you are doing the same dance.
> >>>
> >>> The question I asked is why is unemployment lower in
> >>> Australia when their minimum age is so much higher than
> >>> the minimum wage in the US.
> >>>
> >>> I see there are plenty of people who want to demonstrate
> >>> how well they can dance away from the question but nobody is
> >>> going to try to answer the question.
> >>
> >> Well, we'll never know will we?
> > .
> >
> > We do know that all you've done is dance away from
>
> No, the "question" has been addressed,

Sure, The question has been addressed only
with much dancing away from the question.

But no one can tell me why Australia has lower
unemployment even though their minimum wage is
more than double the US minimum wage.

>
> In addition, the left-wing liars who claim there is no disemployment
> effect of a minimum wage.

I have never claimed that?

Low wages also have a disemployment effect.
Consumers are ultimately the only job creators.
With lower wages comes lower spending and that
leads to even more disemployment.

Australia has a minimum wage that is more than
twice the US minimum wage and their higher wages
support more spending and jobs which is why they
have fewer of their workers looking for work.


> Why not raise it to $100 an hour?

Because the negative effects begin to outweigh the
positive effects at some point.




== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 16 2013 4:44 am
From: "dcaster@krl.org"


On Friday, November 15, 2013 8:35:19 PM UTC-5, jon_banquer wrote:

>
> Minimum wage is a right.

Bet you can not find a cite for your statement.

Dan





== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 16 2013 4:47 am
From: "dcaster@krl.org"


On Friday, November 15, 2013 8:05:14 PM UTC-5, jim wrot

>
> We do know that all you've done is dance away from
>
> the question.
>
>
>
> here is the question:
>
>
>
> why is unemployment lower in Australia when their
>
> minimum age is so much higher than the minimum wage
>
> in the US.


Still not smart enough to figure it out.

Dan




== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 16 2013 4:51 am
From: jon_banquer


On Saturday, November 16, 2013 4:44:12 AM UTC-8, dca...@krl.org wrote:
> On Friday, November 15, 2013 8:35:19 PM UTC-5, jon_banquer wrote:
>
>
>
> >
>
> > Minimum wage is a right.
>
>
>
> Bet you can not find a cite for your statement.
>
>
>
> Dan


Don't need to find a cite.





== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 16 2013 5:08 am
From: jim <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m@mwt.net>




"dcaster@krl.org" wrote:
>
> On Friday, November 15, 2013 8:05:14 PM UTC-5, jim wrot
>
> >
> > We do know that all you've done is dance away from
> >
> > the question.
> >
> >
> >
> > here is the question:
> >
> >
> >
> > why is unemployment lower in Australia when their
> >
> > minimum age is so much higher than the minimum wage
> >
> > in the US.
>
> Still not smart enough to figure it out.
>

Well good for you.




== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 16 2013 5:47 am
From: "dcaster@krl.org"


On Saturday, November 16, 2013 7:51:45 AM UTC-5, jon_banquer wrote:

>
> Don't need to find a cite.

Only necessary if you want anyone to believe your statement.

Dan






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TOPIC: Tom Gardner still here?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/7eb69fec8763bff1?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 16 2013 4:20 am
From: "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"


Larry Jaques <ljaques@invalid.diversifycomm.com> fired this volley in
news:uetd89h7l9difhfh6r35702d40cf9sovrk@4ax.com:

>>Mesh size most usually refers to "wires per inch". Wires often have
>>more than zero diameter. (in case you didn't know that already)
>
> Knew the latter. <g> Thought it was openings-per-inch. Now I know.
> Thanks.

Heh! Think about it, Larry! You'll go home, have supper, think about it
some more... THEN LAUGH!

Wires-per-inch and openings-per-inch say exactly the same thing. What is
never said when MESH is specified is how big the holes are. For that,
you need to go to the specs on a particular screen... see the wire size.
Usually, they calculate the opening size for you, too, but if not, its
just simple arithmetic; invert the mesh and subtract the wire size from
that.

There are several 'standards' concerning how thick the wires should be
(bolting, milling, etc.), but it boils down to getting the specs, to make
sure.

Then there is "space cloth", where not the wires or openings per inch are
specified, but the actual sizes of the holes.

Fortunately or unfortunately - depending on how you look at it - we build
machines from the ground up to do things with explosive substances nobody
has ever built one for, before. So sometimes we bump up against limits
in the industry's general experience with how certain tools or machines
behave in these applications. We do a lot of scouring of other
industries' experience, too, but still often come up goose-egg.

Lloyd


Lloyd




== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 16 2013 4:43 am
From: "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"


"Bob La Londe" <none@none.com99> fired this volley in news:l66opn$c3b$1
@dont-email.me:

>
> I hear ya Lloyd, but I've seen you not answer the question asked once
or
> twice two. LOL.
>
> Frustratin' idden' it?

No... I was just trying to educate Larry on what we'd already done, and
already know. If I took exception to anything, it was just that we might
not be thoughtful enough to consider the potential for loose bristles
getting into the product stream. Stuff like that is what we get paid
for.

Tom hasn't answered yet; neither 'to' nor 'not to' the point.


LLoyd






== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 16 2013 6:44 am
From: Larry Jaques


On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 06:20:57 -0600, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
<lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:

>Larry Jaques <ljaques@invalid.diversifycomm.com> fired this volley in
>news:uetd89h7l9difhfh6r35702d40cf9sovrk@4ax.com:
>
>>>Mesh size most usually refers to "wires per inch". Wires often have
>>>more than zero diameter. (in case you didn't know that already)
>>
>> Knew the latter. <g> Thought it was openings-per-inch. Now I know.
>> Thanks.
>
>Heh! Think about it, Larry! You'll go home, have supper, think about it
>some more... THEN LAUGH!

You're exactly right. <g> The finer the wire, the larger the
openings.


>Wires-per-inch and openings-per-inch say exactly the same thing. What is
>never said when MESH is specified is how big the holes are. For that,
>you need to go to the specs on a particular screen... see the wire size.
>Usually, they calculate the opening size for you, too, but if not, its
>just simple arithmetic; invert the mesh and subtract the wire size from
>that.

That's a problem when some rebel comes out with a "heavy duty"
version. Then there's the metric v. Imperial measurement variance.


>There are several 'standards' concerning how thick the wires should be
>(bolting, milling, etc.), but it boils down to getting the specs, to make
>sure.

I guess your own standard has to be set and told in the product
manual, doesn't it?


>Then there is "space cloth", where not the wires or openings per inch are
>specified, but the actual sizes of the holes.

_That_ is the only one which truly makes sense.


>Fortunately or unfortunately - depending on how you look at it - we build
>machines from the ground up to do things with explosive substances nobody

You are so lucky you never grew up. <wink> Most of us boys have to
grow up and away from our explosive childhoods. I remember once when
my mother came running into my room, asking if I was OK. I had been
seated in front of my chemistry set playing with calcium carbide in a
Clorox bottle, and when I came to the end of squeezing it, the flame
decided to go back inside the bottle. The resultant explosion was a
bit smoky and loud, and it blew me onto my back. I was lying on the
floor in a smoky room laughing (out loud) at my stupidity when Mom
came in. Needless to say, I had a healthy new respect for carbide and
I got to thing about it for a month while my chem set was off limits.


>has ever built one for, before. So sometimes we bump up against limits
>in the industry's general experience with how certain tools or machines
>behave in these applications. We do a lot of scouring of other
>industries' experience, too, but still often come up goose-egg.

Do you have to buy various products to see if they meet your specs in
the machines, too, or is precision of screening less important? I
would think it to be fairly important for the consistency of your
compound(s).

One question came to mind when you described the machine. How do you
let in new material to screen? Is the brush lifted periodically so
more can flow under it, or does it just rush in from the side, or are
the clusters of bristles wide enough to allow material in between
them, or what?

--
We are always the same age inside.
-- Gertrude Stein





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TOPIC: Thermostat set back and other energy savings
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/f4607bbef63d250f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 16 2013 4:54 am
From: "dcaster@krl.org"


On Saturday, November 16, 2013 3:29:44 AM UTC-5, Tom Gardner wrote:
> We're setting the six thermostats back to 45 deg. at 4:30 closing time
>
Thanks for all the ideas!

One more idea. Set the thermostats back to 45 deg at about 4 O'clock. It will take a little while for the building to cool down enough to be noticeable.

Dan






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TOPIC: When Did Christian Values Change From 'Love Thy Neighbor' to 'Fuck Off
and Die'?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/5a707d69dc51746e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 16 2013 5:02 am
From: "David R. Birch"


On 11/11/2013 12:09 AM, John B. wrote:

> The prevailing argument seems to be that guns allow one to kill
> someone with out much effort. With a baseball bat you has to run the
> guy down and belabor him over the head and get blood splashed on your
> coat. Takes some effort.

The ease of use also makes it easier for a small person to defend
themselves from a larger one. Or several larger ones. That is the
primary purpose of a gun.
>
> With a gun it is just a twitch of the finger and Blam, the guy is
> gone. (At least that is the way it is on the TV).

Not much useful about guns to be learned from TV.

> But in Modern America I can't see how that is such a bad thing, after
> all y'all can't seem to wash dishes or even get out of the chair to
> change channels on the TV. Why should making it easy for murders be
> such a big deal?

Since most use of guns is NOT for murder, it isn't a big deal.

David





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TOPIC: Fabricating 3-D weapons has come a long way
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/968637bccba46e88?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 16 2013 5:19 am
From: "David R. Birch"


On 11/15/2013 10:11 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

> The dozen or so actual Liberators Ive handled all came from that
> region and several had a number of body count scratches on the barrel.
>
> One had 11 IRRC. One for each Jap shot with it by its owner, before
> he handed it off to the guy behind him and scooped up his newly
> aquired Arisaka, Nambu and ammo (and the odd sword or three)
>
> Gunner

IIRC, service life of that pistol was only expected to be about 150
rounds. I read a test of the modern version made a few years ago and it
didn't get nearly that far.

David






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TOPIC: Thermostat set-back
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/06857df984d7bae1?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 16 2013 5:21 am
From: "dcaster@krl.org"


On Saturday, November 16, 2013 3:16:27 AM UTC-5, Tom Gardner wrote:

>
> I never heard of that, where can I learn more? We STILL don't know
>
> about the road, it could miss us by feet, ODOT won't tell us.

I do not know where you can find more information. You might find some info on welding sites talking about using a welder on the lowest amp setting to thaw out pipes. You can find out about rewinding microwave oven transformers on the internet. Using current to warm the pipes works well where you can not get to the pipes. You only need a couple of turns on the MWO transformer secondary.

If you can get to the pipes you can use heat cables but they are not super cheap. They consist of two wires with a semiconductor material between them and look kind of like 300 ohm twin lead. At room temperature the semiconductor material has high resistance so very little power in consumed. But at about 40 F the semiconductor material has lower resistance and so warms the tape and whatever it is in contact with.

Dan









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TOPIC: Can a Asch be killed but NOT be married?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/d2b624b4ab616239?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 16 2013 5:50 am
From: Uncle Steve


On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:55:57AM -0700, Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
> In article <l86e89l8ijqna7dbi10ht7fctnp95q3mee@4ax.com>,
> Gunner Asch <gunnerasch@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Liberals want everyone to think.
> Conservatives don't.

Idiot. Conservatives want everyone to obey without thinking.
Liberals want everyone to 'feel' and 'emote' without thinking.


Regards,

Uncle Steve

--
Innumerate poets
Expressing ideas poorly
They cry, it is art





== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 16 2013 6:02 am
From: Don Kresch


On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 23:08:40 -0800, Gunner Asch <gunnerasch@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 17:38:36 -0600, Don Kresch
><spamcatch@spamcatch.org> wrote:
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And laws do not require a government.
>>>>>
>>>>>Enforcement of those laws certainly do.
>>>>
>>>> No, it does not.
>>>
>>>So Donnie....when I..
>>
>> Why do I keep thinking that repeating a red herring/strawman
>>will somehow magically make it not fallacious?
>
>Because you are mentally ill?

No such thing as mental illness. And thanks for thinking that
repeating a red herring/strawman will somehow magically make it not
fallacious. It shows that you are incapable of rational thought on
this subject.


Don
aa#51, Knight of BAAWA, Jedi Slackmaster
Praise "Bob" or burn in Slacklessness trying not to.





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TOPIC: Heavy duty sewing shops?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/d3a5b35354cbb8f8?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 16 2013 6:01 am
From: Ignoramus26083


I have a military M923 truck that I want to sell soon. This truck has
a heavy vinyl "soft top" for the cab, which is supposed to be attached
to a C shaped rubbery plastic strip that is used to hook it up to the
cab.

I have both the top and the strip. At some point, they were sewn
together, but the seam came apart. This is unsightly. I want to find
some shop that can sew such thick and hard stuff together.

Does someone know what sort of business I should look for in yellow
pages. I tried some searches and did not come up with much.

i




== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 16 2013 6:29 am
From: BobH


On 11/16/2013 7:01 AM, Ignoramus26083 wrote:
> I have both the top and the strip. At some point, they were sewn
> together, but the seam came apart. This is unsightly. I want to find
> some shop that can sew such thick and hard stuff together.
>
> Does someone know what sort of business I should look for in yellow
> pages. I tried some searches and did not come up with much.

Try looking for places that make awnings or tents. Another place would
be automotive upholstery shops.

BobH





== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 16 2013 6:42 am
From: "Steve W."


Ignoramus26083 wrote:
> I have a military M923 truck that I want to sell soon. This truck has
> a heavy vinyl "soft top" for the cab, which is supposed to be attached
> to a C shaped rubbery plastic strip that is used to hook it up to the
> cab.
>
> I have both the top and the strip. At some point, they were sewn
> together, but the seam came apart. This is unsightly. I want to find
> some shop that can sew such thick and hard stuff together.
>
> Does someone know what sort of business I should look for in yellow
> pages. I tried some searches and did not come up with much.
>
> i

Look for a place that does boat canvas or tent making. Also auto
upholstery or leather work.

--
Steve W.




== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 16 2013 6:44 am
From: BQ340


On 11/16/2013 9:01 AM, Ignoramus26083 wrote:
> I have a military M923 truck that I want to sell soon. This truck has
> a heavy vinyl "soft top" for the cab, which is supposed to be attached
> to a C shaped rubbery plastic strip that is used to hook it up to the
> cab.
>
> I have both the top and the strip. At some point, they were sewn
> together, but the seam came apart. This is unsightly. I want to find
> some shop that can sew such thick and hard stuff together.
>
> Does someone know what sort of business I should look for in yellow
> pages. I tried some searches and did not come up with much.
>
> i
>

Do you have a local canvas shop or a shoe repair shop?



MikeB

--
Email is valid





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TOPIC: Do You Believe Obama This Time? How About Now? …Now?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 16 2013 6:06 am
From: Frank


> http://blog.heritage.org/2013/11/15/believe-obama-time-now-now/
>
> Obama is an ignorant piece of crap. Nothing but mouth and ego.
> His stupidity will cost the Democrats for years.
>

Three cheers for Obama.
He is a Conservative in disguise.
None of us could have done the damage to Liberalism that he has wrought.






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TOPIC: Wanted for Treason Flyer
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 16 2013 6:44 am
From: Klaus Schadenfreude


On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 23:23:30 +0100 (CET), "Bill Steele"
<ws21-4079F1.15415511112013@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net> wrote:

>http://www.jfk.org/go/collections/item-
>detail?fedoraid=sfm:1999.023.0017
>
>Interesting how most of the transgressions on this poster for
>JFK,
>
>are the exact same complaints about Barack Hussein Obama.
>
>Will history repeat itself?

Yep, the same nutcases back then have reproduced and their children
are using the same arguments today.

Amazing.





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