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* The CRA dictates that RACE is of more importance thananyone'
sabilitytorepayanyloansmade. - 15 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/27850e46baa11657?hl=en
* Uisng A Chucking Reamer - 4 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/20f0c6f715bd3e69?hl=en
* Famous presidential lies - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/3cb2a4cd7e7b85f8?hl=en
* Anybody here into tube amps? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/99780316492ddab1?hl=en
* How much mercury is in mercury relays? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/28b8e3bc7aaa18d2?hl=en
* The robots are coming! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/317a6473fb786909?hl=en
* What is it? Set 528 - Answers - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/c0a0e39d40365ee6?hl=en

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TOPIC: The CRA dictates that RACE is of more importance thananyone'
sabilitytorepayanyloansmade.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/27850e46baa11657?hl=en
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== 1 of 15 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 17 2014 12:00 pm
From: jim <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m@mwt.net>




BeamMeUpScotty wrote:

> >
>
> > The govt owns F&F preferred stock.

> Who says the government is qualified to buy stocks?

Congress writes the laws.

> Why isn't F&F paying back all the people that lost money because of
> their business practices and their predatory sales of fraudulent
> investment paper?

You're lying again. No one has lost money on GSE mortgage
backed securities.

>
> > The profits go to the US Treasury.
> what profits? And NOW is NOT the time for profits...
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-N_DPNve44
> Now is NOT the time for Profits says
> *Obama The millionaire who's keeping his profits*
>
> > The F&F bailout cost the taxpayers nothing.
> It cost 35 billion in tax credits....

That is just another one of your lies.
If the govt had not taken over F&F it would have
collected nothing in taxes.

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== 2 of 15 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 17 2014 12:16 pm
From: jim <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m@mwt.net>




Rudy Canoza wrote:

> >>> The govt owns F&F.
> >>
> >> Ha ha ha ha ha! Both are publicly traded corporations. Fannie Mae's
> >> stock ticker symbol is FNMA. Freddie Mac's is FMCC. Both trade on the
> >> OTCBB; both were NYSE listed until 2010.
> >
> > The govt owns F&F preferred stock.
>
> The government does not own all of the preferred stock. They don't even
> own a majority of it.

Go argue your point with the SEC and US Treasury.
They claim a majority ownership stake and all the
profits go to the treasury as dividends.

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/310522/000095013308003096/w67133exv99w3.htm

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== 3 of 15 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 17 2014 12:18 pm
From: jim <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m@mwt.net>




BeamMeUpScotty wrote:

>
> The Obama administration's decision to cover an unlimited amount of
> losses at the mortgage-finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac over
> the next three years stirred controversy over the holiday.
>
> The Treasury announced Thursday it was removing the caps that limited
> the amount of available capital to the companies to $200 billion each.

That is 4 year old news. It is all paid back now.

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== 4 of 15 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 17 2014 12:41 pm
From: BeamMeUpScotty


On 1/17/2014 3:00 PM, jim wrote:
>
>
> BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>
>>>
>>
>>> The govt owns F&F preferred stock.
>
>> Who says the government is qualified to buy stocks?
>
> Congress writes the laws.

But *are they qualified* to gamble with taxpayer assets?

Do you want them playing Black Jack at casino's with tax dollars to
increase the bottom line at the Treasury? What makes buying stocks and
other high risk investments safer than playing Black Jack?






== 5 of 15 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 17 2014 12:46 pm
From: BeamMeUpScotty


On 1/17/2014 3:18 PM, jim wrote:
>
>
> BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>
>>
>> The Obama administration's decision to cover an unlimited amount of
>> losses at the mortgage-finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac over
>> the next three years stirred controversy over the holiday.
>>
>> The Treasury announced Thursday it was removing the caps that limited
>> the amount of available capital to the companies to $200 billion each.
>
> That is 4 year old news. It is all paid back now.

It's NOT *ALL* paid back....

But-->

That is why we call them "FACTS"

I'm happy you noticed that I'm using FACTS


When you want FACTS you look for things that already happened because
things in the future are NOT FACTS yet.











== 6 of 15 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 17 2014 12:46 pm
From: jim <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m@mwt.net>




BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>
> On 1/17/2014 3:00 PM, jim wrote:
> >
> >
> > BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
> >
> >>>
> >>
> >>> The govt owns F&F preferred stock.
> >
> >> Who says the government is qualified to buy stocks?
> >
> > Congress writes the laws.
>
> But *are they qualified* to gamble with taxpayer assets?

They didn't have much choice

>
> Do you want them playing Black Jack at casino's with tax dollars to
> increase the bottom line at the Treasury? What makes buying stocks and
> other high risk investments safer than playing Black Jack?

The intent was not to make profits. You
already posted links showing that everybody thought
it would lose money because of the belief that F&F
were holding tons of bad loans. Turns out that belief
was wrong.

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== 7 of 15 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 17 2014 12:53 pm
From: jim <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m@mwt.net>




BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>
> On 1/17/2014 3:18 PM, jim wrote:
> >
> >
> > BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> The Obama administration's decision to cover an unlimited amount of
> >> losses at the mortgage-finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac over
> >> the next three years stirred controversy over the holiday.
> >>
> >> The Treasury announced Thursday it was removing the caps that limited
> >> the amount of available capital to the companies to $200 billion each.
> >
> > That is 4 year old news. It is all paid back now.
>
> It's NOT *ALL* paid back....
>
>

The 4th quarter of 2013 ended a couple weeks ago.
When they announce the profits will you admit
you were lying? Of course not. You'll just start spewing
a brand new batch of lies.

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== 8 of 15 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 17 2014 12:53 pm
From: Rudy Canoza


On 1/17/2014 12:16 PM, jim, front boy for a left-wing disinformation
collective - that is, a hired liar - lied:

> Rudy Canoza wrote:
>
>>>>> The govt owns F&F.
>>>>
>>>> Ha ha ha ha ha! Both are publicly traded corporations. Fannie Mae's
>>>> stock ticker symbol is FNMA. Freddie Mac's is FMCC. Both trade on the
>>>> OTCBB; both were NYSE listed until 2010.
>>>
>>> The govt owns F&F preferred stock.
>>
>> The government does not own all of the preferred stock. They don't even
>> own a majority of it.
>
> Go argue your point with the SEC and US Treasury.
> They claim a majority ownership stake and

Ha ha ha ha ha! That site makes plain that the fraud, if any, was
committed by the U.S. government:

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac debt and mortgage backed securities
outstanding today amount to about $5 trillion, and are held by
central banks and investors around the world. Investors have
purchased securities of these government sponsored enterprises in
part because the ambiguities in their Congressional charters
created a perception of government backing. These ambiguities
fostered enormous growth in GSE debt outstanding, and the breadth
of these holdings pose a systemic risk to our financial system.
Because the U.S. government created these ambiguities, we have a
responsibility to both avert and ultimately address the systemic
risk now posed by the scale and breadth of the holdings of GSE
debt and mortgage backed securities.


You and your handlers really put your foot in it with that one.




== 9 of 15 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 17 2014 12:55 pm
From: jim <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m@mwt.net>




Rudy Canoza wrote:
>
> On 1/17/2014 12:16 PM, jim, front boy for a left-wing disinformation
> collective - that is, a hired liar - lied:
>
> > Rudy Canoza wrote:
> >
> >>>>> The govt owns F&F.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ha ha ha ha ha! Both are publicly traded corporations. Fannie Mae's
> >>>> stock ticker symbol is FNMA. Freddie Mac's is FMCC. Both trade on the
> >>>> OTCBB; both were NYSE listed until 2010.
> >>>
> >>> The govt owns F&F preferred stock.
> >>
> >> The government does not own all of the preferred stock. They don't even
> >> own a majority of it.
> >
> > Go argue your point with the SEC and US Treasury.
> > They claim a majority ownership stake and
>
> Ha ha ha ha ha! That site makes plain that the fraud, if any, was
> committed by the U.S. government:

Hey I'm not your nanny. If you want to cry go
bang on their door and cry.

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== 10 of 15 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 17 2014 1:16 pm
From: BeamMeUpScotty


On 1/17/2014 3:46 PM, jim wrote:
>
>
> BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>>
>> On 1/17/2014 3:00 PM, jim wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The govt owns F&F preferred stock.
>>>
>>>> Who says the government is qualified to buy stocks?
>>>
>>> Congress writes the laws.
>>
>> But *are they qualified* to gamble with taxpayer assets?
>
> They didn't have much choice
>
>>
>> Do you want them playing Black Jack at casino's with tax dollars to
>> increase the bottom line at the Treasury? What makes buying stocks and
>> other high risk investments safer than playing Black Jack?
>
> The intent was not to make profits. You
> already posted links showing that everybody thought
> it would lose money because of the belief that F&F
> were holding tons of bad loans.

The belief was correct and they lost Billions...

Have they tried to make that up, YES and did they, NO.

But in time and with all that government backing they will get some of
it back. It may cost us $1.25 for every $1.00 dollar they recoup but
that will all be hidden so you don't know it. Like the $35 billion in
tax credits they used to pay off 35 Billion in tax payer loans... in
reality tax payers gained ZERO since they gave F&F $35 billion so F&F
could give the Treasury $35 Billion for a net gain of ZERO. It's all a
giant money laundering scheme and it goes nowhere.


But it does tell us that you AREN'T VERY SMART, which seem like a high
price to pay for something we already knew.









== 11 of 15 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 17 2014 1:28 pm
From: Rudy Canoza


On 1/17/2014 12:55 PM, jim, front boy for a left-wing disinformation
collective - that is, a hired liar - lied:

> Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>
>> On 1/17/2014 12:16 PM, jim, front boy for a left-wing disinformation
>> collective - that is, a hired liar - lied:
>>
>>> Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> The govt owns F&F.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ha ha ha ha ha! Both are publicly traded corporations. Fannie Mae's
>>>>>> stock ticker symbol is FNMA. Freddie Mac's is FMCC. Both trade on the
>>>>>> OTCBB; both were NYSE listed until 2010.
>>>>>
>>>>> The govt owns F&F preferred stock.
>>>>
>>>> The government does not own all of the preferred stock. They don't even
>>>> own a majority of it.
>>>
>>> Go argue your point with the SEC and US Treasury.
>>> They claim a majority ownership stake and
>>
>> Ha ha ha ha ha! That site makes plain that the fraud, if any, was
>> committed by the U.S. government:
>
> Hey I'm not your nanny. If you want to cry

You, a far-left lying extremist, have been crying for months that the
crash was due to private enterprise "fraud". It wasn't. It was due to
government policy established by Democrats.

Your handlers are really abusing you of late.





== 12 of 15 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 17 2014 1:40 pm
From: jim <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m@mwt.net>




BeamMeUpScotty wrote:

>
> But in time and with all that government backing they will get some of
> it back. It may cost us $1.25 for every $1.00 dollar they recoup but
> that will all be hidden so you don't know it. Like the $35 billion in
> tax credits they used to pay off 35 Billion in tax payer loans... in
> reality tax payers gained ZERO since they gave F&F $35 billion so F&F
> could give the Treasury $35 Billion for a net gain of ZERO. It's all a
> giant money laundering scheme and it goes nowhere.

F&F have paid in profits equal to what they got in
bailouts because the loans on their books are good
quality and profitable.

F&F had a loss rate of less than 1% for a couple years (2008-2010)
because lots of people who lost jobs couldn't pay their
mortgage while out of work. Now they are back to being
profitable because their loan portfolio contained the
lowest concentration of bad loans in the mortgage industry.

Even in 2009 F&F loans were performing better than loans
held by banks and a lot better than loans financed by
private label securities.

According to the Office of Comptroller of Currency:
"Loans serviced for GSEs have a higher concentration of
prime mortgages than mortgages serviced for private investors
or held on the servicers' balance sheets and, as a result,
have lower delinquencies and foreclosures in process."

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== 13 of 15 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 17 2014 1:45 pm
From: Rudy Canoza


On 1/17/2014 1:40 PM, jim, front boy for a left-wing disinformation
collective - that is, a hired liar - lied:

> BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>
>>
>> But in time and with all that government backing they will get some of
>> it back. It may cost us $1.25 for every $1.00 dollar they recoup but
>> that will all be hidden so you don't know it. Like the $35 billion in
>> tax credits they used to pay off 35 Billion in tax payer loans... in
>> reality tax payers gained ZERO since they gave F&F $35 billion so F&F
>> could give the Treasury $35 Billion for a net gain of ZERO. It's all a
>> giant money laundering scheme and it goes nowhere.
>
> F&F have paid in profits equal to what they got in
> bailouts because the loans on their books are good
> quality and profitable.

The GSEs own sub-prime mortgages equal to 50% of their portfolios,
either that they bought directly or that they bought in the secondary
market.

We know you don't know this subject. We know you have no expertise in
it at all. You're the front boy for a left-wing disinformation
collective, and someone is telling you which lies to post.




== 14 of 15 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 17 2014 2:16 pm
From: jim <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m@mwt.net>




Rudy Canoza wrote:
>
> On 1/17/2014 12:55 PM, jim, front boy for a left-wing disinformation
> collective - that is, a hired liar - lied:
>
> > Rudy Canoza wrote:
> >>
> >> On 1/17/2014 12:16 PM, jim, front boy for a left-wing disinformation
> >> collective - that is, a hired liar - lied:
> >>
> >>> Rudy Canoza wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>>> The govt owns F&F.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ha ha ha ha ha! Both are publicly traded corporations. Fannie Mae's
> >>>>>> stock ticker symbol is FNMA. Freddie Mac's is FMCC. Both trade on the
> >>>>>> OTCBB; both were NYSE listed until 2010.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The govt owns F&F preferred stock.
> >>>>
> >>>> The government does not own all of the preferred stock. They don't even
> >>>> own a majority of it.
> >>>
> >>> Go argue your point with the SEC and US Treasury.
> >>> They claim a majority ownership stake and
> >>
> >> Ha ha ha ha ha! That site makes plain that the fraud, if any, was
> >> committed by the U.S. government:
> >
> > Hey I'm not your nanny. If you want to cry
>
> You, a far-left lying extremist, have been crying for months that the
> crash was due to private enterprise "fraud".

No I never said that. All I said was that most of the bad
mortgages that got into the GSEs portfolio got there by
fraud. Court cases have established that fact.

The cause of the crash was that large number of investors
invested in products that could only work as long as house
prices went up and were guaranteed to spectacularly fail if
house prices fell 30%. The investors didn't believe that
was possible, but the excessive quantity of risky investments
were in fact the only thing needed to exist to make it happen.

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== 15 of 15 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 17 2014 2:19 pm
From: BeamMeUpScotty


On 1/17/2014 3:46 PM, jim wrote:
>
>
> BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>>
>> On 1/17/2014 3:00 PM, jim wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The govt owns F&F preferred stock.
>>>
>>>> Who says the government is qualified to buy stocks?
>>>
>>> Congress writes the laws.
>>
>> But *are they qualified* to gamble with taxpayer assets?
>
> They didn't have much choice
>
>>
>> Do you want them playing Black Jack at casino's with tax dollars to
>> increase the bottom line at the Treasury? What makes buying stocks and
>> other high risk investments safer than playing Black Jack?
>
> The intent was not to make profits.

That's a pretty easy goal to accomplish.....








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TOPIC: Uisng A Chucking Reamer
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/20f0c6f715bd3e69?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 17 2014 12:42 pm
From: jon_banquer


On Friday, January 17, 2014 11:44:57 AM UTC-8, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
> jon_banquer <jonbanquer@yahoo.com> fired this volley in news:15e12c16-1f5b-
>
> 4377-9a3d-6fc81a93d2b9@googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > Rapid out.
>
>
>
> Yeah. If the reamer is sharp and you dawdle in the hole, any tiny bit of
>
> misalignment between tailstock and headstock will translate to the reamer's
>
> taking more cuts as it exits. You can't completely eliminate that, but you
>
> can minimize it by getting out of the hole as fast as possible.
>
>
>
> If everything were perfect, it wouldn't do any cutting on the way out,
>
> anyway, so the speed wouldn't matter. But it does.
>
>
>
> Lloyd


Use a G86 boring cycle: Feedrate, Stop, Dwell Time, Rapid out.














== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 17 2014 12:54 pm
From: jon_banquer


On Friday, January 17, 2014 11:44:57 AM UTC-8, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
> jon_banquer <jonbanquer@yahoo.com> fired this volley in news:15e12c16-1f5b-
>
> 4377-9a3d-6fc81a93d2b9@googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > Rapid out.
>
>
>
> Yeah. If the reamer is sharp and you dawdle in the hole, any tiny bit of
>
> misalignment between tailstock and headstock will translate to the reamer's
>
> taking more cuts as it exits. You can't completely eliminate that, but you
>
> can minimize it by getting out of the hole as fast as possible.
>
>
>
> If everything were perfect, it wouldn't do any cutting on the way out,
>
> anyway, so the speed wouldn't matter. But it does.
>
>
>
> Lloyd



Suggest looking into floating reamer holders.






== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 17 2014 1:20 pm
From: "Bob La Londe"




"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote in message
news:XnsA2B8962A2DE0Dlloydspmindspringcom@216.168.3.70...
> Yeah. If the reamer is sharp and you dawdle in the hole, any tiny bit of
> misalignment between tailstock and headstock will translate to the
> reamer's
> taking more cuts as it exits. You can't completely eliminate that, but
> you
> can minimize it by getting out of the hole as fast as possible.
>
> If everything were perfect, it wouldn't do any cutting on the way out,
> anyway, so the speed wouldn't matter. But it does.
>
> Lloyd

Don't you run the risk of a deep spiral score mark that way?




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== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 17 2014 1:32 pm
From: jon_banquer


On Friday, January 17, 2014 1:20:26 PM UTC-8, Bob La Londe wrote:
> "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote in message
>
> news:XnsA2B8962A2DE0Dlloydspmindspringcom@216.168.3.70...
>
> > Yeah. If the reamer is sharp and you dawdle in the hole, any tiny bit of
>
> > misalignment between tailstock and headstock will translate to the
>
> > reamer's
>
> > taking more cuts as it exits. You can't completely eliminate that, but
>
> > you
>
> > can minimize it by getting out of the hole as fast as possible.
>
> >
>
> > If everything were perfect, it wouldn't do any cutting on the way out,
>
> > anyway, so the speed wouldn't matter. But it does.
>
> >
>
> > Lloyd
>
>
>
> Don't you run the risk of a deep spiral score mark that way?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Are these thru holes?

You want no risk use an M00 so you can check and if necessary clean the reamer by hand before you retract it from the hole.







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TOPIC: Famous presidential lies
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/3cb2a4cd7e7b85f8?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 17 2014 12:56 pm
From: Ramon F Herrera



I nominate this as the most egregious lie, the cruelest, the one that
has damaged the US the most:

"Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone".

-Ramon





== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 17 2014 1:03 pm
From: Ramon F Herrera


On 1/17/2014 12:49 AM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
> You can't transfer back something that the Panamanians didn't construct
> in the first place.

In fact you can! The best evidence is that we did.

In fact, Steve, if I build a bungalow or whatever in *your* land,
chances are that you and your daughters and other family will end up
enjoying it.

> If Carter had an ounce of integrity, he would have
> transferred the Canal Zone over to Colombia, the original nation that
> had sovereignty over the Isthmus of Panama. The Republic of Panama was
> just a colonialist construct, created to grease the way for digging the
> canal through the jungle.
>

What makes you believe that we would be interested?

-Signed: Rep�blica de Colombia






== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 17 2014 1:33 pm
From: Rudy Canoza


On 1/17/2014 12:56 PM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
>
> I nominate this as the most egregious lie, the cruelest, the one that
> has damaged the US the most:
>
> "Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone".

1. No president said it.

2. It's not a lie.






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TOPIC: Anybody here into tube amps?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/99780316492ddab1?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 17 2014 1:18 pm
From: etpm@whidbey.com


Greetings Tubulars,
So I have this crazy idea to build a little tube amp just for fun. The
transformers are quite expensive though. I will be looking for old
ones probably because I can't justify spending loads on new ones. So
considering my almost 60 years old ears, 39 of which have been spent
in noisy environments, and my propensity to listen to loud music, what
should I look for that will sound just a little better than I can
hear? Maybe not an audio xmfr will be OK. There are some old tube amps
in a couple local thrift stores. How can I tell if they had good
xmfrs? Or can I?
Eric

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TOPIC: How much mercury is in mercury relays?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/28b8e3bc7aaa18d2?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 17 2014 1:17 pm
From: Ignoramus23003


On 2014-01-17, Paul Drahn <pdrahn@webformixair.com> wrote:
> On 1/17/2014 9:54 AM, Jon Elson wrote:
>> Ignoramus29535 wrote:
>>
>>> (not completely idle interest)
>>>
>>> I was just wondering, how much mercury is in mercury relays such as 80
>>> amp three pole relays. A website claims that even a 35 amp single pole
>>> relay contains 251 grams of mercury, which is hard to believe.
>>>
>>> http://goo.gl/ESvOvC
>> Just shake it! You can probably feel the mercury sloshing around
>> in there. Yes, the huge old mercury contactors had an amazing
>> amount of the stuff in them.
>>
>> Jon
> I think more mercury would be required if the switch was activiated many
> times per minute, at the rated amperage. Much more vapour would be
> produced during the time of contact arcing.

Paul, I believe that this is what these switches are for, for very
frequent switching.

i





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TOPIC: The robots are coming!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/317a6473fb786909?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 17 2014 1:31 pm
From: Rudy Canoza


On 1/17/2014 1:18 PM, Bugster, economics-illiterate and proud of it, lied:

> Harold Burton <hal.i.burton@notmail.com> wrote in
> news:hal.i.burton-F6F1A1.14365517012014@74.sub-97-136-209.myvzw.com:
>
>> In article <lbbkv0$7tf$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
>> Bugster, economics-illiterate and proud of it, lied:
>>
>>> Governments warned: Robots may take half our jobs in 20 years, so
>>> prepare for revolution
>>
>> It's deja vu all over again. Remember the Luddites?
>>
>> Laugh . . . laugh . . . laugh
>>
> The Industrial Revolution took more than a century and people could return
> to the farm. Both governments and people had time to adapt. This
> revolution is already upon us - and we have nothing to fall back on.

*This* "revolution" - general automation, not "robots" - has been going
on for a century, and we have not had to worry about "falling back on"
anything.

New jobs always emerge - always. "Lump of labor" is a fallacy.






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TOPIC: What is it? Set 528 - Answers
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/c0a0e39d40365ee6?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 17 2014 1:31 pm
From: Rob H.


They've all been answered correctly this week, though I'm not 100% sure about
the
wine bottle holder but I think it's probably right.

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2014/01/set-528.html#answers


Rob





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