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TOPIC: Rep. John Murtha, American Hero, voice for veterans, dies at 77
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 4:39 pm
From: Too_Many_Tools

On Feb 9, 4:15 pm, Larry Graham <Slyandthefam...@bass.gov> wrote:
> Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> > On Feb 9, 3:20 pm, Larry Graham <Slyandthefam...@bass.gov> wrote:
>
> >>Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>
> >>>What is it like to never have a meaningful relationship to where you
> >>>have to retreat to Usenet to have anyone interact with you?
>
> >>>I pity you.
>
> >>Uhh.. that's what YOU are doing!
>
> >>When are YOU going to show up and take my stuff, like YOU said you were
> >>going to do... on usenet?
>
> >>I will kill you IN REAL LIFE, if you attempt to enter my home illegaly,
> >>like you said you would "on usenet!"
>
> >>What a COWARD you and your faggoty RETARD friends are!
>
> >>That's right.. I used the "R" word!
>
> > Is that why a coward like you behaves as you do.?
>
> > As a coward that has never served, any vet could easily deal with you.
>
> I did serve.
> I still do!
>
> YOU are gay.
> You have AIDS/HIV, and because you are a liberal shitstain, that is
> why you are afraid to show up and take my stuff like you said you would.
> You and "lookout" are too busy "playing doctor" under the blankets to
> wonder were NJ is.
>
> As the AIDS/HIV persons you are, I have to kill you once you make an
> attempt to enter my home illegally... like you said you would.
>
> So, uh... when are you going to show up?
>
> Killing you terminal/criminal fags is a good thing!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yeah sure...in your own dreams.

TMT

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 4:41 pm
From: Too_Many_Tools

On Feb 9, 4:43 pm, "Buerste" <buer...@wowway.com> wrote:
> "Larry Graham" <Slyandthefam...@bass.gov> wrote in message
>
> news:4b71d9f6$0$31262$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>
> Larry, don't waste your time with him, he's just a troll.

Well Tommy Boy...good to see you here.

I...and the rest of us...are still waiting on those company records
you promised us.

What is the holdup?

Reality?

Laugh...laugh...laugh...

TMT

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 5:14 pm
From: Klaus Schadenfreude

In talk.politics.guns Too_Many_Tools <too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote:

>You continue to show the world how worthless your contributions are.

Like these, you mean?

___________
"I will be bringing the local cops with me to visit you so be sure you
have enough doughnuts for all of us. ;<)"
-Too Many Tools, 5/30/09

"Try posting your real address just once and I will
guarantee you a visit."
-Too Many Tools, 6/2/09, right before
he scrambled for excuses not to show up.

"Got a valid address yet winger?
I would like to arraign[sic] a visit for you."
-Too Many Tools, 6/19/09, still hoping
someone actually believes him.

"Give us a valid address and we can arraign [sic] a playdate with some
friends."
-Too Many Tools 7-1-2009 STILL trying to get
someone to believe him

"Show a picture of your mailbox then...with you in front of it. ;<)"
-Too Many Tools 7-2-2009 changing the conditions in
another desperate attempt to weasel out of visiting

"Provide the information and you will receive a visit."
-Too Many Tools, 9-16-2009, yet again making promises
he has no intention of keeping.

"Why don't you provide us with a valid name and address ...and we will
arrange a visit for you."
-Too Many Tools, 9-20-2009, yet *again* making promises
he has no intention of keeping.

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 5:15 pm
From: Klaus Schadenfreude

In talk.politics.guns Too_Many_Tools <too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Feb 9, 3:20 pm, Larry Graham <Slyandthefam...@bass.gov> wrote:
>> Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>> > What is it like to never have a meaningful relationship to where you
>> > have to retreat to Usenet to have anyone interact with you?
>>
>> > I pity you.
>>
>> Uhh.. that's what YOU are doing!
>>
>> When are YOU going to show up and take my stuff, like YOU said you were
>> going to do... on usenet?
>>
>> I will kill you IN REAL LIFE, if you attempt to enter my home illegaly,
>> like you said you would "on usenet!"
>>
>> What a COWARD you and your faggoty RETARD friends are!
>>
>> That's right.. I used the "R" word!
>
>LOL...the coward speaks again.

Yet you are the one too cowardly to show up at Sunnyside Terrace.

Try writing the map on your hand. Better use your left hand.

[chuckle]

___________
"I will be bringing the local cops with me to visit you so be sure you
have enough doughnuts for all of us. ;<)"
-Too Many Tools, 5/30/09

"Try posting your real address just once and I will
guarantee you a visit."
-Too Many Tools, 6/2/09, right before
he scrambled for excuses not to show up.

"Got a valid address yet winger?
I would like to arraign[sic] a visit for you."
-Too Many Tools, 6/19/09, still hoping
someone actually believes him.

"Give us a valid address and we can arraign [sic] a playdate with some
friends."
-Too Many Tools 7-1-2009 STILL trying to get
someone to believe him

"Show a picture of your mailbox then...with you in front of it. ;<)"
-Too Many Tools 7-2-2009 changing the conditions in
another desperate attempt to weasel out of visiting

"Provide the information and you will receive a visit."
-Too Many Tools, 9-16-2009, yet again making promises
he has no intention of keeping.

"Why don't you provide us with a valid name and address ...and we will
arrange a visit for you."
-Too Many Tools, 9-20-2009, yet *again* making promises
he has no intention of keeping.

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 5:27 pm
From: "Burled Frau"

"Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:045b610c-fda3-4b07-a4f8-e16ebad2e922@o23g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 9, 4:03 pm, Larry Graham <Slyandthefam...@bass.gov> wrote:

>>
>> You and your super poofter boy friends are still afraid to show up.- Hide
>> quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> You are a disappointment to your family.
>
> A really big disappointment.
>
> TMT

Projecting again? We all know that your two mommies really wanted a girl,
not a hermaphrodite.

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 5:30 pm
From: "Burled Frau"

"Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6a448846-5f84-4a66-8cf6-836282d9d370@y7g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 9, 3:47 pm, "Burled Frau" <acht...@jawol.jah> wrote:
>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:e9f5a39f-1b29-404f-918a-bf62ca726301@15g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > On Feb 9, 7:51 am, "Burled Frau" <acht...@jawol.jah> wrote:
>> >> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:700bcccc-420a-4ae1-be7c-2d67ea569947@m31g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> > RIP John.
>>
>> >> > America is better because of you.
>>
>> >> Yep, the daisies should be growing nice and tall now thanks to you.
>> >> Shit
>> >> makes the best fertilizer.
>>
>> > Obviously you have never served your Country..
>>
>> > Some men make a difference while others do not.
>>
>> Luckily for you, your Imposter in Chief has lifted restrictions on gays
>> serving. So put on your chaps and get going. Suit up and ship out.
>> Obama's
>> counting on you TMT. Show us all what a difference a man can make. Go
>> serve
>> the chimp and be a real corpse man.
>
> Still trying to get the atttention you crave?
>
> I still pity you.
>
> All of us do.
>

Your two mommies are there with you right now? Tell them Long John says hi.
They'll know who it is.

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TOPIC: OT-You're driving down the highway and suddenly your car starts
accelerating on its own.....
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/f241f89ab834f0f6?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 4:49 pm
From: "RogerN"

What would you do? You would blame it on Bush! Why? You need to figure
that one out, most that read your crap already know.

RogerN

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 5:47 pm
From: "dcaster@krl.org"

On Feb 10, 12:29 am, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> FYI...
>
> TMT
What is your input on this?

Dan

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TOPIC: Cheater's Notes
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/575dd2a6a3913041?hl=en
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 4:48 pm
From: "Stormin Mormon"

"It has been widely acknowledged -worldwide- that one of the
main factors in Obama's electoral victory"

Well, with that quoted text (which you removed) I think we
could figure out that "it" was......

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

"No-bammer" <no-bammer@fgi.net> wrote in message
news:mOqdndd_6-8fKuzWnZ2dnUVZ_gpi4p2d@earthlink.com...
Stormin Mormon wrote:

> I thought it was the union thugs, and the Acorn crooks.
> Silly me.
>

What is "it"?

== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 4:49 pm
From: "Stormin Mormon"

Palin is Kenyan? Kewl!

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

"John R. Carroll" <nunya@bidness.dev.nul> wrote in message
news:7ImdnVA74tjBIOzWnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@giganews.com...

About the only thing Obama and Palin have in common is their
citizenship.

--
John R. Carroll

== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 4:52 pm
From: "John R. Carroll"

Stormin Mormon wrote:
> Palin is Kenyan? Kewl!

Nah.
She's one of them communut Roooooooooskys!

>
> --
> Christopher A. Young
> Learn more about Jesus
> www.lds.org
> .
>
>
> "John R. Carroll" <nunya@bidness.dev.nul> wrote in message
> news:7ImdnVA74tjBIOzWnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
>
> About the only thing Obama and Palin have in common is their
> citizenship.

--
John R. Carroll

== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 4:54 pm
From: "John R. Carroll"

wmbjkREMOVE@citlink.net wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:46:20 -0800, "John R. Carroll"
> <nunya@bidness.dev.nul> wrote:
>
>> RD (The Sandman) wrote:
>>> "John R. Carroll" <nunya@bidness.dev.nul> wrote in
>>> news:Gq6dnY99U6vxXezWnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@giganews.com:
>>>
>>>> Gray Ghost wrote:
>>>>> "John R. Carroll" <nunya@bidness.dev.nul> wrote in
>>>>> news:7ImdnVA74tjBIOzWnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@giganews.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> RD (The Sandman) wrote:
>>>>>>> "John R. Carroll" <nunya@bidness.dev.nul> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:rsqdnZF2zO29KezWnZ2dnUVZ_hydnZ2d@giganews.com:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gray Ghost wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "John R. Carroll" <nunya@bidness.dev.nul> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:N4Wdneec9MkdOezWnZ2dnUVZ_r-dnZ2d@giganews.com:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If I was somewhere with her, her birth certificate is not what I
>>> would be looking at, of course, I might not mind digging for it
>>> either. ;)
>>
>> LOL
>> Each to his or her own, but I'm in Southern California - the Los
>> Angeles South Bay to be precise.
>> Redondo and Hermosa.
>> Sarah Palin isn't even half way to M.I.L.F. territory here in terms
>> of good looking and the "Hot Mom" cutoff is 25 or so.
>> 40+ women are a pain. They have opinions, nag at every turn and are
>> pretty demanding.
>
> Even if she really was attractive physically, mygawd, that voice and
> the phony accent, yipping out the irritating word salad. Yikes! She'd
> need to be de-barked, or else only allowed into the house for short
> periods.
>
>> Who needs all that baggage?
>
> ... or the bills for the primping and the tanning and the wardrobe.
> And think of the time and energy it would take to bail her out of the
> inevitable personal conflicts that conniving harpies tend to get
> themselves into, like the BIL thing. Then you'd have to watch the
> makeup get thicker and thicker over the years until she turns into the
> Alaskan Tammy Faye. And all for what? Imagine being stuck day in and
> day out listening to her mindless and indefensible hypocrisy like the
> great "retard" debate. Holy crap. One could get more genuine and
> stimulating companionship from a neurotic cat.

Sounds like something Gunner would be interesed in.
Especially if she screws around.

--
John R. Carroll

== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 4:57 pm
From: "Stormin Mormon"

Palin is Kenyan?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

"RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote
in message news:Xns9D1A88E5FF2ABhopewell@216.196.97.130...

> About the only thing Obama and Palin have in common is
> their
citizenship.

No argument there.

--
Sleep well tonight,

RD (The Sandman)

Some points to ponder:
Why is it good if a vacuum cleaner really sucks?
Why is the third hand on a clock called the "second hand"?
Why did Kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
Why do we sing "Take me out to the ballgame" when we are
already
there?

== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 4:56 pm
From: "Stormin Mormon"

I demand an investigation!

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

"John R. Carroll" <nunya@bidness.dev.nul> wrote in message
news:Gq6dnY99U6vxXezWnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
>> About the only thing Obama and Palin have in common is
>> their
>> citizenship.
>
> Well, now there does seem to be some disagreemtn on that,
> now doesn't
> there?

Perhaps.
Has anyone seen Palin's birth certificate?

--
John R. Carroll

== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 5:01 pm
From: "Burled Frau"

"rangerssuck" <rangerssuck@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:03d7a83f-91f5-4476-8b51-ab80843d02cc@u26g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 9, 9:48 am, No-bammer <no-bam...@fgi.net> wrote:
>> Cliff wrote:
>> > http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978036226
>> > "Sarah Palin Reads Cheat Notes Off Her Hand:"
>> > [
>> > This would be funny if it weren't also pretty sad:
>> >http://beltwayblips.dailyradar.com/video/sarah-palin-reads-cheat-note...
>> > She had to do this, despite only accepting pre-approved questions. And
>> > there
>> > are actually human beings walking around who think she should be
>> > President.
>> > Wow...E
>> > ]
>>
>> What notes. Looked like subjects to talk about without any help from a
>> teleprompter. Liberal are truly ignorant fools. Buckwheat has a lot more
>> than subjects wrote down on his teleprompter. Buckwheat could have had
>> any number of subjects wrote down on hand, paper etc. and he still
>> wouldn't have known what to say without his teleprompter.
>
> Excuse me, but who is this "Buckwheat" you keep referring to?

It's not Buckwheat. It's OBuckwheat

== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 6:03 pm
From: "Steve B"

"John R. Carroll" <nunya@bidness.dev.nul> wrote

> LOL
> Each to his or her own, but I'm in Southern California - the Los Angeles
> South Bay to be precise.
> Redondo and Hermosa.
> Sarah Palin isn't even half way to M.I.L.F. territory here in terms of
> good
> looking and the "Hot Mom" cutoff is 25 or so.
> 40+ women are a pain. They have opinions, nag at every turn and are pretty
> demanding. Who needs all that baggage?
>
> --
> John R. Carroll

Younger women would be okay if they just didn't talk. At least "older
women" can talk intelligently. And you don't have to tell them every damn
little thing to do. Which is only fun for a while, then boring.

Steve

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TOPIC: O.T. Toyota accelerator pics and explanations
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 5:04 pm
From: F. George McDuffee

On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:19:43 -0700, wmbjkREMOVE@citlink.net
wrote:
<snip>
>>The specific difficulty to which I am referring is the series of
>>Toyota vehicle management problems, known to include
>>acceleration, braking, and now [power] steering. All of these
>>seem to be related to the "drive by wire" computerized vehicle
>>control system.
>
>Your entire approach is based on logical fallacies, but I doubt that
>anything will dissuade you from fanning the flames of hysteria. My
>only hope is that you own a Toyota, and get to see your resale value
>bottom out at about the same time we get confirmation that the whole
>thing was much ado about nothing. IOW, Audi Psychosis Part Deux.
<snip>
Thank you for posting your well thought out and tactful critique
of my letter. Please be sure to post a copy of your letter to
the newsgroups so the readers can use it as a model in place of
my poor effort when writing to Congress.

For the record my vehicles are
1990 Ford T'bird 300k miles
1978 Mercury Monarch I-block 6 100k miles
2000 Honda Helix scooter 25k miles.

Unka George (George McDuffee)
..............................
The past is a foreign country;
they do things differently there.
L. P. Hartley (1895-1972), British author.
The Go-Between, Prologue (1953).

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TOPIC: OT - Most states remain blue ...and sane.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/d00573543954f95d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 5:06 pm
From: "RogerN"

"Wes" <clutch@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:Iumcn.263968$IU1.66987@en-nntp-04.dc1.easynews.com...
> Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>
>>Although I've never understood the need for a marriage license, I also
>>don't understand what all the fuss is about gay marriage. It's their
>>life. Let 'em alone. I can understand their need as far as hospital
>>visitations, etc. Of course, marriage is a religious thang, and I've
>>never been partial to that little bit of manipulation, either.
>>
>>Let the masses marry goats for all I care.
>>
>
> Larry, that is a libertarian position.
>
> Mariage as a religious act should not have the state intruding via
> licensing.
>
> Civil union (gays), well, while I'm not all that thrilled about it, call
> it that, and
> leave traditional hetrosexual marriage alone. Unfortuantly, they (gays)
> want to be viewed
> as normal and want to hijack marriage. I don't care how commited they are
> to each other,
> it just isn't the same as man and woman joining with procreation as a
> likely outcome.
>
> They really should take half a loaf with substantive equivalance in rights
> and be happy.
>
> Wes
>
> --
> "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
> government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
> in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

The bigger issue is what it means to give them state recognized marriage or
legal unions. Before long it will be mandatory for school kids to take
classes on homosex education. If homosexuality is natural rather than a
learned behavior, then why do homosexuals want it taught? They have gay
pride parades showing off their perversion doing things that would get
anyone else arrested. If gays really want to be treated like a normal
person, they should demand the police arrest them for what they do in their
gay pride parades. Next thing you know there will be child molesters
claiming they are born that way and some liberals will be wanting to send
them children to molest because it's just the way they are.

The sad thing is that the Bible very clearly told that these things would
happen but liberals put their blinders on and can't see it right in front of
their face.

RogerN

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TOPIC: Hey Ed, that snow coming up your way?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 5:19 pm
From: Stuart Wheaton

Wes wrote:
> Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>
>>> DC has some they can spare.
>> My buddy in D.C. just emailed yesterday. They've had 2' so far, and
>> 20" extra are due in today through Wednesday. He'd just finished 3
>> hours of shoveling when the damned snow plow FINALLY came by and undid
>> his entire day's work in seconds. I'd have heaved the shovel at the
>> b*tch on the plow. ;)
>
> I've been in the middle of digging a car out of my driveway when the plow covered me and
> it. It is a testiment to my composure I didn't double tap the plow driver.

If you call the locality that owns the plows they will be happy to make
a note in the snowplow files and program the plow not to shed snow as it
passes your driveway. The problem is that they just don't realize that
you are special until you call them.

My brother works as a city mechanic and he usually runs plows on the
relief shift. That means he often gets the first shot at residential
streets after the public works guys have cleaned the main roads. By
definition, secondary streets and residential neighborhoods will
probably get plowed after they shovel their driveways. It can't be
helped and bitching about it is a waste of time. But a guy followed him
down a cul-de-sac to complain that plows blocked his driveway. He got
out of his narrow car (parked behind the plow truck, lights off) and was
walking up to bitch at the plow driver, but the driver never knew the
narrow car was there until he threw the truck in reverse and felt the
crunch.

The cop that responded (a shooting buddy of mine) directed the guy's
attention to all the Flashing Yellow Lights on the Big Orange Truck,
cited him, and sent the plow on it's way.

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TOPIC: Rep John Murtha ( democrat ) Dies
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 5:28 pm
From: Stuart Wheaton

Wes wrote:
> "Ed Huntress" <huntres23@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>> "Buerste" <buerste@wowway.com> wrote in message
>> news:6wlcn.92083$1m3.60681@newsfe11.iad...
>>> "Husky" <cynsguy@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:2fdc553c-30a5-4868-a16d-2f325629ae44@c4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>> When you stop hiding under your mommy's bed, Go play Russian Roulette
>>>> with an automatic.
>>> What's an "automatic"?
>> That's what they called a semiautomatic when you were in diapers. Sometimes
>> called an autoloader.
>
> I wasn't very thrilled with Murtha in his later years. But for his earlier years, I'd
> like to signify my respect for his service before he got into politics.
>
> Wes

Don't ignore that it was Murtha who put the language into this years
defense bills that prohibits the DOD from destroying any M1, M1
Carbines, M14, 1903,1917 or .22 rifles, nor 1911 pistols and no ammo
that is not deemed unsafe to use.

The man was NRA A+ rated.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 5:58 pm
From: "Burled Frau"

"Buerste" <buerste@wowway.com> wrote in message
news:6wlcn.92083$1m3.60681@newsfe11.iad...
>
> "Husky" <cynsguy@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2fdc553c-30a5-4868-a16d-2f325629ae44@c4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>
>>When you stop hiding under your mommy's bed, Go play Russian Roulette
>>with an automatic.
>
> What's an "automatic"?
>

It's that thing on the steering wheel that Lisa Douglas used to call the
Pernedsler

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TOPIC: Karl, I found a good lathe for your future condo
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/adac47bd9d2e274d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 5:47 pm
From: Ignoramus11495

On 2010-02-09, Wes <clutch@lycos.com> wrote:
> John <amdinc@intergrafix.net> wrote:
>
>>Iggy,
>>
>>A local company that I did business with closed up shop. I bought a
>>bunch of machines from them including this one. They wanted to move them
>>as soon as possible and the price was very right.

What was the price, by the way?

>> The Bertrem lathe is
>>about 30 feet between centers. The first picture was at the old
>>location. The other pictures are where it is running now in my shop.
>>Moving it was comparably easy as at the original site there were a
>>couple of 30 ton bridge crane available and at my shop I just slid it
>>off the flatbed with a forklift on the tail end and a 15 ton crane
>>picking up the head stock. Once inside I put a set of rollers under it
>>and pulled it into position with the forklift.
>>
>>http://userweb.intergrafix.net/amdinc/024.JPG
>>http://userweb.intergrafix.net/amdinc/025.JPG
>>http://userweb.intergrafix.net/amdinc/026.JPG
>>http://userweb.intergrafix.net/amdinc/027.JPG
>> http://userweb.intergrafix.net/amdinc/012.jpg
>>
>
> John,
>
> I get nervous when I only have 30 dollars worth of stock at risk to my machinining and
> math skills.
>
> I'd be in heart attack mode machining anything that uses a significant fraction of those
> machines work envelope.

Especially if something goes *really wrong*.

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TOPIC: OT - Toyota resale value, reputation fall from heights
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 5:49 pm
From: "dcaster@krl.org"

On Feb 10, 12:30 am, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Of course I do.
>
> But you first.
>
> TMT

But you are the one that brought the subject up. So you first.

Dan

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TOPIC: Sources of 12L14 bar stock
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/c254cd2361954f16?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 5:52 pm
From: jb

On Feb 7, 10:06 pm, Joseph Gwinn <joegw...@comcast.net> wrote:
> While I can get 6061 aluminum, 303 and 304 stainless steel, and 360
> brass and some bronzes locally (Boston area) from MetalSource's (Admiral
> Metals) Woburn site, they don't carry such things as 12L14 (and 1018 for
> that matter), and I haven't found a comparable local ferrous supplier
> for other than A36 (structural) alloy, so I may have to buy online. (I
> got the last batch from McMaster-Carr).
>
> I've found three major online vendors (in addition to McMaster):
>
> Where do people get 12L14? Which is best, and why? Metal Express,
> Metals Supermarket, and Metals Depot. Any other good choices?
>
> Joe Gwinn

For the home machinist: I have more steel than I need in my home shop.
I have a lot of 7/16round cf-4150alloy 5 to 6" long. Also 1/2"round
cf-4130 x 8 3/4". Also 7/16"-11L17---and 5/8" 11L17 x 6ft. or possibly
cut. Email if this size suits you. jbilsland@cableone.net

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TOPIC: Wobble in Clausing variable speed drive
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 5:52 pm
From: Ignoramus11495

On 2010-02-09, Wes <clutch@lycos.com> wrote:
> Ignoramus11495 <ignoramus11495@NOSPAM.11495.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>I think that I never did, but I have them, here
>>
>>http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clausing-6913-Lathe/06-Variable-Speed-Drive-Wobble/
>
>
> http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clausing-6913-Lathe/06-Variable-Speed-Drive-Wobble/06-Variable-Speed-Drive-Wobble-6386.jpg.html
>
> That looks like the snap ring groove is partialy busted out. That
> would cause grief. Some idjit tried to move the sheaves when the
> drive system wasn't running.

Yes, it is partially busted, I think from just bad design and
fatigue. I think that the lathe worked for a few years with the groove
so busted.

I think that I can live with this ring busted. I think that the real
cause of thin end shaft vibration was that 1) it wore near the snap
ring 2) the snap ring cracked.

I think that when I get the new shaft and bushing assembly, which
turned out to be not too expensive, and install it with a good snap
ring, it should be better.

> http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clausing-6913-Lathe/06-Variable-Speed-Drive-Wobble/06-Variable-Speed-Drive-Wobble-6387.jpg.html
>
> That isn't pretty. It looks like the key cut into the left side of your motor side
> pulley. Is that so?
>
> What is the key way condition of?

Not great condition, but, I think, fixing it is is painful due to
epoxy lining. If epoxy was not an issue, I would just weld it with
nickel and machine.

I know that you did redo epoxy lining, maybe I should look to your
example. I do not have a drill big enough to spin the spindle. But
maybe I can do something else.

Did you buy it from DeVitt machinery?

> http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clausing-6913-Lathe/06-Variable-Speed-Drive-Wobble/06-Variable-Speed-Drive-Wobble-6379.jpg.html
>
>
>
> Wes

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