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TOPIC: Gun nuts need psych tests, at least "obsessed" 0bama lovers do.
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 6:56 pm
From: grey_ghost471-newsgroups@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost)

Zombywoof <fishwings@live.com> wrote in
news:lnrrn5ttr0oq6d0up4npptg5q6sligi2ep@4ax.com:

> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:10:33 -0500, Cliff
><Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:44:00 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_real@bogus.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Amy Bishop
>>
>> "she had requested that students with gun permits be allowed to carry
>> their
>>guns on campus and was turned down."
>>
> Do you have any substantiated reference for that?

Are you serious?!? It's Cliffie, he doesn't have a substantial reference for
anything.

--
God, guns and guts made America great.

And Janet Napolitano nervous.

Which should tell you all you need to know about Democrats. How can one
restore America to greatness if greatness makes you uncomfortable?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 7:16 pm
From: Beam Me Up Scotty

> Cliff <Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in
> news:aiiqn5dq9iuhl606k9jmq4gnha6posoghd@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:44:00 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_real@bogus.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Amy Bishop
>>
>> "she had requested that students with gun permits be allowed to carry
>> their
>> guns on campus and was turned down."

Do you think she was crying out to be stopped and the best way was for
others to have guns too?

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TOPIC: Mag light corrosion (some metal content)
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 7:02 pm
From: Larry Jaques

On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:50:18 -0800 (PST), the infamous
stans4@prolynx.com scrawled the following:

>On Feb 17, 7:08 am, "Stormin Mormon"
><cayoung61**spambloc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I recently had a battery corrode in my black

>> --
>> Christopher A. Young
>> Learn more about Demons
>> www.lds.org
>> .

If you guys are going to quote the Jayzussfreaks, please snip their
sigs first. Thank you.

--
"Just think of the tragedy of teaching children not to doubt."
-- Clarence Darrow

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TOPIC: Hold my beer & watch this ...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/661f0ce12db7018f?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 7:02 pm
From: Bob Engelhardt

I have some preliminary results, but my camera battery ran down so I
couldn't run to an end.

So far
- with VFD putting out 360 Hz (its max, not 400 as previously stated)
the motor spins to 10,700 rpm easily & "smoothly". 10,800 is nominal
- ran for 10 minutes before losing battery
- drew .35A
- the closed end bearing warmed somewhat. Maybe to 80F
- running at 10,700 is kinda scary so I bolted it down. I kept thinking
about the rotor jamming & transferring its rotation to the case.
- at 10 sec decel time I was getting over voltage on the VFD's DC bus &
had to increase to decel time

The VFD is rated 2 HP (8A) & the motor is 1 HP, so I should be able to
force it into regions that it won't like <G>.

I'm going to decrease the accel time as short as I can to see if DoN's
thought about not starting is true. 'Course short accel time is still
not same as applying 360 HZ.

Stay tuned,
Bob

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 7:08 pm
From: Larry Jaques

On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:03:32 -0500, the infamous Bob Engelhardt
<bobengelhardt@comcast.net> scrawled the following:

>I have a 1 HP 3 ph motor that I don't want & nobody else does either. I
>also have a VFD that will go to 400 Hz. The recent discussion about the
>rpm limits of motors prompts me to see what happens.
>
>So I'm gonna' hook up the motor, crank the VFD to 400 Hz & stand back!
>But I thought that I'd give you guys a chance to make predictions. What
>do you think will happen?
>
>Bob
>
>Oh - the motor is 1755 rpm @ 60 Hz => 10500 @ 400. It is older & dirty
>inside. The bearings? I dunno - it spins pretty easily.

I'll bet it self-destructs at something like double speed for any
length of time. Flames are likely.

--
"Just think of the tragedy of teaching children not to doubt."
-- Clarence Darrow

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TOPIC: Oxy welding newbie questions
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 7:13 pm
From: GeoLane at PTD dot NET

On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:44:13 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
<Paul@Hovnanian.com> wrote:

>I think I'm going to pick up a basic kit and take it up.
>
>Grizzly Industrial has a couple of sets (and I have some gift
>certificates to use):
>
>http://www.grizzly.com/products/h4926
>
>http://www.grizzly.com/products/t20228
>
>Are either of these any good?
>

I have no experience with those particular set, but if I had it to do
over again, I'd see if I could afford two stage regulators instead of
single phase regulators. The acetylene regulator wanders and always
has since it was new. I typically have to readjust the regulator a
couple of times till it holds the correct pressure without continuing
to climb. I was told that two stage regulators don't do that.

RWL

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TOPIC: Why have the Democrats suddenly hallted work on Solving the Health Care
Crisis?
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 7:14 pm
From: Beryl

Zombywoof wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:44:55 -0800, Beryl <fourl@road.net> wrote:
>
>> Jeff M wrote:
>>> Beryl wrote:
>>>> John Husvar wrote:
>>>>> In article <TO-dnWuuYKRDEubWnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@posted.toastnet>,
>>>>> Beryl <fourl@road.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> pyotr filipivich wrote:
>>>>>>> Near as I can tell, the Democrats still have a majority in both houses
>>>>>>> of Congress. [Which still begs the question - why couldn't they pass
>>>>>>> health care last summer?]
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
>>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you! (and at significant risk of being accused of pedantry, too :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, would you address decimation vs. devastation?
>>>> I think decimation results from stuff being consumed. Nothing is left.
>>>> Devastation leaves everything there, but it's all busted up.
>>> Decimation is the elimination of 1/10th. It was a form of military
>>> discipline for units accused of cowardice, etc., where one of every ten
>>> soldiers was executed.
>> Harsh! If humans had eight fingers and used the octal system, octation
>> would have been worse.
>>
> Most of us humans actually only have eight fingers anyhow, the ninth &
> tenth digits are those opposable thumbs that supposedly separate us
> from the other animals and let us build & use tools.

And that's why our eyes are at the front. Some think it's because we're
predators, but look at sharks - no thumbs.

> Although I have known a couple of men that need to drop their drawers
> when playing Blackjack. It's the only way they can count to 21!

I heard about them.

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 7:22 pm
From: "Sid9"

"Stuart Wheaton" <sdwheaton@fuse.net> wrote in message
news:ba0e9$4b7dfc10$d06602ac$347@FUSE.NET...
> SaPeIsMa wrote:
>>
>> "Stuart Wheaton" <sdwheaton@fuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:1a51d$4b7c6494$d06602ac$26644@FUSE.NET...
>>> pyotr filipivich wrote:
>>>> Were we not told that Healthcare in America was in such a Perilous
>>>> Crisis, that a bill had to be passed Right Now! We didn't have time
>>>> to read it, just vote on it!
>>>> And suddenly - not a word. The entire Democrat Party PR machine
>>>> suddenly goes on hold. It has been weeks since the One has sought to
>>>> address the nation, to tell us how necessary it was to pass the Health
>>>> Care Reform Act. Nothing. Did the Healthcare Crisis suddenly end?
>>>> Has a statute of limitations on the bill expire? Is HealthCare so
>>>> last year, so 2009? Did the Democrats suddenly lose their majority
>>>> in the House, Senate and Fourth Estate?
>>>>
>>>
>>> The election of Scott whatsihisname stopped the current Bill, now there
>>> will be a Healthcare summit, televised, where the party of No can offer
>>> their ideas...
>>>
>>> After the public gets done laughing, and Tort reform gets added (Tort
>>> reform seems to be the only Republican idea besides "No"...) After
>>> people really see what is in the Bill, they will get it passed.
>>
>> Too bad that
>> 1) Other ideas have been presented by the Republicans, but that Dems
>> were so full of themselves with their super-majority, that they imagined
>> they could ignore what other people have to say
>> 2) Tort reform would lead to a MAJOR saving across the board by
>> i) reducing the malpractice insurance rates
>> ii) eliminating a great many unecessary tests, done primarily
>> so that doctors can be covered if they are sued
>> iii) reduce a large portion of the paperwork in the medical
>> profession, because of the need to be well documented JUST IN CASE the
>> doctor/clinic/hospital/insurer is sued for malpractice
>
> It's a nice dream, but not backed up by reality. Several states have
> introduced tort reform and capped damages. The result has been very
> little reduction in cost, premiums, or improved care.
>
>
>>
>> Considering that Brown is NOT going to be a unique case of Dems losing
>> seats, (just look at those deciding that retirement will avoid an
>> embarassing loss in the next election), the majority and ability of the
>> Dems to pass ANY laws in the next few years is going to be SERIOUSLY
>> limited. This is PARTICULARLY true for Health care, since a LARGE portion
>> of the population is AGAINS IT
>>
.
.
Tort reform is a bullshit issue that can be dealt with after a healthcare
bill is passed and signed.

In Florida its no issue.

Drs can opt out of carrying insurance...most that I've seen do opt out.

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 7:25 pm
From: Harold Burton

In article <hll06t$hut$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Sid9" <sid9@belsouth.net> wrote:

> Tort reform is a bullshit issue

From the lefturd dictionary: Bullshit issue. n. an issue that we can't
refute.

Snicker.

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 7:29 pm
From: Shall not be infringed

On Feb 17, 10:44 pm, Beryl <fo...@road.net> wrote:
> Jeff M wrote:
> > Beryl wrote:
> >> John Husvar wrote:
> >>> In article <TO-dnWuuYKRDEubWnZ2dnUVZ_oGdn...@posted.toastnet>,
> >>> Beryl <fo...@road.net> wrote:
>
> >>>> pyotr filipivich wrote:
>
> >>>>> Near as I can tell, the Democrats still have a majority in both houses
> >>>>> of Congress. [Which still begs the question - why couldn't they pass
> >>>>> health care last summer?]
> >>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
>
> >>> Thank you! (and at significant risk of being accused of pedantry, too :)
>
> >>> Now, would you address decimation vs. devastation?
>
> >> I think decimation results from stuff being consumed. Nothing is left.
> >> Devastation leaves everything there, but it's all busted up.
>
> > Decimation is the elimination of 1/10th. It was a form of military
> > discipline for units accused of cowardice, etc., where one of every ten
> > soldiers was executed.
>
> Harsh! If humans had eight fingers and used the octal system, octation
> would have been worse.-

Libraries would be using the Dewey Octagon system.

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 7:55 pm
From: "Martin H. Eastburn"

People of both parties love to get money for their district/state.
The people and local governments want and expect something.

Look at the stimulus bill - the biggest and widest pork barrel
bill by the democrats in years. It is as if they were saving their
wish list for years. Has any of it hit the towns yet ?
We got some IKE money - nominal amount but something.

Control doesn't mean black and white. It means responsible spending.

Responsibility for ones doing is important.

Martin

Hawke wrote:
> Dave__67 wrote:
>
>>> Near as I can tell, the Democrats still have a majority in both houses
>>> of Congress. [Which still begs the question - why couldn't they pass
>>> health care last summer?] Did the election of Scott Brown transform
>>> them all into evil Republicans who only want to kill women &
>>> minorities?
>>> Or is this all part of some nefarious Vast Riechwinger Plot to
>>> make Obama look bad, and tarnish his legacy? I'll bet that's the Real
>>> Story. It's all a sinister Cabal by Karl Rove to overthrow the
>>> Government and install a Theocracy! Yes, that's it, the total and
>>> absolute control of everyone's lives by non-Progressive elements!
>>>
>>> So unfair.
>>>
>>> Does this mean we're not going to get free medical insurance, to
>>> go with our free mortgages and gasoline?
>>>
>
>>> pyotr filipivich
>
>>
>> They're embarrased because they realized that a public option is
>> something the repugs wanted some number of years ago...
>> Wasn't socialist then, was it, so why is it socialist now?
>>
>>
>> Dave
>
>
> For the same reason republicans are for stimulus spending in their home
> district but were against the stimulus bill when it came up for a vote.
> Many republicans even sent letters requesting funds to be used in their
> districts. Funds which they voted against and funds which they bragged
> about for creating jobs and was good for their districts, which they
> also said would be a waste when they voted against it. It's the same
> with health care. Most of what the republicans said they want in health
> care reform is in the bill. But if the Democrats proposed it the
> republicans are against it even if they sponsored the bill to begin
> with. Like when seven republicans sponsored a bill to create a
> commission to look at the deficit. When Obama suggested the same thing
> they voted against it even though they had sponsored it. That's
> republicans for you; first class hypocrites. They're against anything
> the Democrats want to do even if they were for it themselves the day
> before. They're really something.
>
> Hawke

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 7:57 pm
From: "Martin H. Eastburn"

Hawke is a right winger - ultra ultra right wrapping around.
Martin

Hawke wrote:
> Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>
>>>> Clearly the right wing is desperately against Obama no matter what.
>>>> They
>>>> are desperate for him to fail because if he succeeds they know they
>>>> will
>>>> be out of power for decades.
>>> That's what I want to know - how are the Republicans thwarting the
>>> Democrat majority? I mean, the Democrats are in the Majority - in the
>>> House, In the Senate, in the 4th Estate? Who can oppose them? Who
>>> could stop them?
>>
>> Obstructionists using a false "filibuster." But you know that and
>> are just trolling...
>>
>
> It's a rule. Right wingers always lie. What they think and what they
> stand for can't stand the light of day so the have to lie to get what
> they want. They're like used car salesmen who tell you the lemon they
> are selling you is a real gem. That's a right winger for you. They have
> to lie. They're good at it. They do it all the time. They do it so much
> a lot of people wind up believing them. They pay for that mistake too.
> It's just like the WMD lie that got us into Iraq. The people never would
> have gone for it if they told them the truth. If they told the truth
> about health care reform the people would be for it. So they lie. What's
> new.
>
> Hawke

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TOPIC: OT - Most states have leftards in a panic
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 7:19 pm
From: Harold Burton

In article <hlki70$ab5$2@speranza.aioe.org>,
Hawke <davesmithers@digitalpath.net> wrote:

> Harold Burton wrote:
> > In article <hld8eo$j9e$2@speranza.aioe.org>,
> > Hawke <davesmithers@digitalpath.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Harold Burton wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>>>>> Against killing innocent people versus murderers and you can't tell
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> difference? Would you argue that if you light street lights in the
> >>>>>>>>> night
> >>>>>>>>> you should also be for lighting them in the day?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> RogerN
> >>>>>>>> Hey, what do you think Jesus would say? You think he would be
> >>>>>>>> advocating
> >>>>>>>> killing anybody?
> >>>>>>> Why not . . . cite chapter and verse.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Snicker.
> >>>>>> Ha, Ha, Ha, hey stupid, those were questions.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> rhetorical questions.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Try again.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Snicker.
> >>>> You still want the citations?
> >>>
> >>> Still waiting.
> >
> >
> >> I don't know why.
> >
> > You asked a rhetorical question, why are you so afraid of telling us
> > what the answer you expected was? Rhetorical questions DO have expected
> > answers
>
> You didn't ask for answers.

what part of "You asked a rhetorical question, why are you so afraid of
telling us what the answer you expected was? Rhetorical questions DO
have expected answers"

didn't you understand?

Snicker.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 7:21 pm
From: Harold Burton

In article <hlkinl$bal$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
Hawke <davesmithers@digitalpath.net> wrote:

> Harold Burton wrote:
>
> >>>> Quit kidding around. Everybody knows...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ...is an expression charlatans use to try to BS people. Try again. Try
> >>> to refute the fact that over the last two decades prosperity correlated
> >>> with Republican control of Congress, and recession correlated with
> >>> Democrat control.
> >> Moron. You couldn't possibly be more wrong.
> >>
> >> http://www.academycomputerservice.com/economics/charts.htm
> >>
> >
> > Proves my point, unemployment fell during the '90s when Republicans
> > controlled Congress but shortly after Democrats seized control of
> > Congress in 2006 the economy tanked, unemployment shot up, the stock
> > market dove, and the deficit took off.
> >
> >
> > Thanks for proving my point.
> >
> >
> > Snicker.
>
>
> Most people place the blame for those things not on the group that just
> took over in 2006 but on the people who ran the show from 2000 until
> then.

Of course they do.

Snicker.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 7:22 pm
From: Harold Burton

In article <hlkidp$b11$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
Hawke <davesmithers@digitalpath.net> wrote:

> Harold Burton wrote:
> > In article <hld9dv$kbi$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
> > Hawke <davesmithers@digitalpath.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Harold Burton wrote:
> >>
> >>>> You think republicans should run things.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> At least in Congress. Republicans controlled Congress during the boom
> >>> years of the last 2 decades. It was only after Democrats seized control
> >>> that the economy tanked.
> >> Quit kidding around. Everybody knows...
> >
> >
> >
> > ...is an expression charlatans use to try to BS people. Try again. Try
> > to refute the fact that over the last two decades prosperity correlated
> > with Republican control of Congress, and recession correlated with
> > Democrat control.
> >
> >
> > snicker.
>
>
> Now look, Snicker. That is factually wrong.

Ah, proof by assertion.

Snicker.

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TOPIC: Lathe chuck spindle attachment
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 7:23 pm
From: Jim Wilkins

On Feb 18, 8:50 pm, "Michael Koblic" <mkob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Jim Wilkins" <kb1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> ....
>
> BTW is this your IMDb entry?
> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0929273/
> Michael Koblic,
> Campbell River, BC

Not me, by then I was building expensive toys for the Air Force to
play with. I worked for a student filmmaker in the 60's and a USO and
then community theatre group in the 70's, all part time. I ran the
projector for the classes the filmmaker taught and learned a lot.

We had our own imitation of Warhol's "factory" in the off-campus
hippie village for a while, but I got no nearer to the craziness than
holding the lights during filming. The talented hotties have all the
fun with each other, the crew only gets to watch. All this while
studying for a Chemistry degree. The only course I couldn't pass was
technical writing, which is why I practice here.

In addition to Joss Whedon I'd like to see Brian Fuller and Baz
Luhrmann succeed with a mass audience. You'll never look at Michael
from Lost the same way again after seeing how Luhrmann had him play
Romeo's friend Mercutio IN DRAG. Don't watch it if guns offend you.
The two families were like rival crime syndicates, better armed than
Mad Max, and even Juliet packed a Walther.

jsw

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 7:41 pm
From: Jim Wilkins

On Feb 18, 10:23 pm, Jim Wilkins <kb1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...You'll never look at Michael
> from Lost the same way again after seeing how Luhrmann had him play
> Romeo's friend Mercutio IN DRAG. ...>
> jsw

Here he is with the guy who played Romeo:
http://content8.flixster.com/question/57/92/09/5792094_std.jpg

http://blog.morgane.org/blog/images/perso/996RNJ_Harold_Perrineau_Jr_001.jpg

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjL0z6tkoU7rR7eXr5asV9izUFGaamXXHUi3WEZ22hsT0QCyt4mMssiOOkaARv5df3Hq-NXhnGKCS0Z9jZ3aXToXjd2FE6ceJVNjOSxdMAyYWOj1zeKmjUc4HS-PrwJr92FIuyd4tpnTNE/s200/andreIStheNEWkate-03.jpg

No putting my name under those

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TOPIC: Color photography prior to WWI -- Production of artistic casting
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 7:24 pm
From: "William Wixon"

"Ignoramus27020" <ignoramus27020@NOSPAM.27020.invalid> wrote in message
news:GNGdnfFc0-7yJeDWnZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/images/p87_4207__00507_.jpg
>
> Apparently, someone named ergei Mikhailovich Prokudin-Gorskii invented
> a certain method of color photography and took a number of pictures of
> Russia prior to WWI. The method involved taking three pictures with
> three different color filters. I believe that at the time they had no
> way of combining the color, but the photo plates were kept and
> developed in the United States decades later.
>
> i

holy (expletive deleted)! that's amazing, incredible, awesome. gorgeous.
like some sort of weird time warp.
clicking around, found someone's blog with a link to, i think, the full
collection?

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/

b.w.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 7:34 pm
From: "William Wixon"

"William Wixon" <wwixon@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:vvnfn.614$sx5.611@newsfe16.iad...
>
> "Ignoramus27020" <ignoramus27020@NOSPAM.27020.invalid> wrote in message
> news:GNGdnfFc0-7yJeDWnZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/images/p87_4207__00507_.jpg
>>
>> Apparently, someone named ergei Mikhailovich Prokudin-Gorskii invented
>> a certain method of color photography and took a number of pictures of
>> Russia prior to WWI. The method involved taking three pictures with
>> three different color filters. I believe that at the time they had no
>> way of combining the color, but the photo plates were kept and
>> developed in the United States decades later.
>>
>> i
>
> holy (expletive deleted)! that's amazing, incredible, awesome. gorgeous.
> like some sort of weird time warp.
> clicking around, found someone's blog with a link to, i think, the full
> collection?
>
> http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/
>
>
> b.w.
>

oh, sorry iggy, i was clicking and clicking and didn't notice your link was
from that collection. thanks for posting. very wonderful photos. you can
kind of fall into them.

b.w.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 7:37 pm
From: Ignoramus27020

On 2010-02-19, William Wixon <wwixon@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>
> "Ignoramus27020" <ignoramus27020@NOSPAM.27020.invalid> wrote in message
> news:GNGdnfFc0-7yJeDWnZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/images/p87_4207__00507_.jpg
>>
>> Apparently, someone named ergei Mikhailovich Prokudin-Gorskii invented
>> a certain method of color photography and took a number of pictures of
>> Russia prior to WWI. The method involved taking three pictures with
>> three different color filters. I believe that at the time they had no
>> way of combining the color, but the photo plates were kept and
>> developed in the United States decades later.
>>
>> i
>
> holy (expletive deleted)! that's amazing, incredible, awesome. gorgeous.
> like some sort of weird time warp.
> clicking around, found someone's blog with a link to, i think, the full
> collection?
>
> http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/

Yes, it does feel as you described. I have seen some of the places
pictured 70-80 yrs later, it is spooky.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 7:55 pm
From: "pdrahn@coinet.com"

On Feb 18, 7:34 pm, "William Wixon" <wwi...@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> "William Wixon" <wwi...@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
>
> news:vvnfn.614$sx5.611@newsfe16.iad...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Ignoramus27020" <ignoramus27...@NOSPAM.27020.invalid> wrote in message
> >news:GNGdnfFc0-7yJeDWnZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> >>http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/images/p87_4207__00507_.jpg
>
> >> Apparently, someone named ergei Mikhailovich Prokudin-Gorskii invented
> >> a certain method of color photography and took a number of pictures of
> >> Russia prior to WWI. The method involved taking three pictures with
> >> three different color filters. I believe that at the time they had no
> >> way of combining the color, but the photo plates were kept and
> >> developed in the United States decades later.
>
> >> i
>
> > holy (expletive deleted)! that's amazing, incredible, awesome. gorgeous.
> > like some sort of weird time warp.
> > clicking around, found someone's blog with a link to, i think, the full
> > collection?
>
> >http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/
>
> > b.w.
>
> oh, sorry iggy, i was clicking and clicking and didn't notice your link was
> from that collection. thanks for posting. very wonderful photos. you can
> kind of fall into them.
>
> b.w.

The GREAT depth of field is caused by a VERY small apature lens.
Perhaps even a pin-hole camera. Everything is in focus, from the very
nearest object to the furthest mountain.

Great photos! Thanks, Ig.

Paul

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 8:04 pm
From: Jim Wilkins

On Feb 18, 10:37 pm, Ignoramus27020 <ignoramus27...@NOSPAM.
27020.invalid> wrote:
> ...
> >http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/
> Yes, it does feel as you described. I have seen some of the places
> pictured 70-80 yrs later, it is spooky.
> i

You might like this:
http://www.russianlife.com/

It is the successor to this project:
http://www.marxists.org/history/ussr/culture/soviet-life/index.htm
With the variety of what he put in my mailbox, the postman probably
thought I was either an anarchist or in the CIA.

jsw

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 7:55 pm
From: Gerald Miller

On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:05:25 -0500, "Karl Townsend"
<karltownsend.NOT@embarqmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>> Are you doing this because you are bored or is there something wrong with
>> it?
>
>A few wires totally fried. Lucky it didn't start a fire. Had to be towed in
>off the reef. Some really smart guy slugged the fusible link. Several spots
>have had a mash together "Y" connection added and then cut out. The rest of
>the wire is brittle, bend it and the insulation cracks. All the connections
>are totally salt corroded. The guy that owned the boat before just bypassed
>things as they failed so there may be stuff I don't know about.
>
>But yea I guess I'm bored. When its too windy to fish, what is a guy
>supposed to do?
>
>Karl
>
>
Sounds like the power window/door lock harness in the '83 Dodge Aries
we had. The harness was routed across the floor pan just ahead of the
seat bulkhead in the lowest part under the drivers feet, all joints
were spot welded and loosely wrapped with fabric tape. I had to
rebuild the entire harness and by the time I got done talking to the
"customer service ombudsman" he wouldn't even admit to having ever
learned to ride a bicycle, let alone drive a car.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

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TOPIC: Hey Buerste
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 8:01 pm
From: GeoLane at PTD dot NET

On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 01:31:58 -0500, "Buerste" <buerste@wowway.com>
wrote:

>
><GeoLane at PTD dot NET> wrote in message
>news:m5gpn5dq36rg46mnoni7p8meh4pccm2du0@4ax.com...
>>
>>>>
>>>>>Look through my web page and tell me what you can use. (Might have
>>>>>minor
>>>>>blems, but safe and serviceable)
>>
>>
>>>> Hey Tom. Do you ever sell seconds? I"m looking to find out what
>>>> good brushes are like on the cheap.
>>>>
>>>> RWL
>>

>> I"m looking for 6-8" coarse, med, and fine wire wheels and
>> a good cup wheel for rust removal by a 4" or a 7" grinder.
>>
>> RWL

>What size AH? The standard is 5/8" with a 1/2" adapter but can go up to 1"
>on 6" wheel, 1-1/2" on an 8". Very rarely do we have cups as seconds.
>Medium coarse is .012" wire and medium fine is .008" wire, fine is .006"
>wire. Knot-type wheels are almost always .014" and .020: wire. In the
>machine shop we use the .012", it's good for general use.

I use my old wood lathe as my power source for my straight wire wheel.
I make adapters on my metal lathe as needed. I can make any size
hole work, but I can only swing 8" on the wood lathe. The little
angle grinder is metric 10 x 1.5 so I made a 1/2-13 adapter for that.
The bigger grinder is a standard 5/8-11 spindle. The 4" hand held is
dedicated to rust removal with an import knotted wheel with 0.011"
wire. Thanks for considering looking around to see if you have
anything suitable. I know you don't normally do retail.

RWL

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 8:01 pm
From: "Denis G."

On Feb 16, 11:15 am, steamer <stea...@sonic.net> wrote:
> --Doesn't seem to be one on usenet (!!) Can someone suggest a place
> to discuss this topic? I'm taking a whack at making a small injection
> molding die for a small, but fairly odd piece..
>
> --
> "Steamboat Ed" Haas : Blue Cross socks us
> Hacking the Trailing Edge! : $23,000/yr!! ...
> www.nmpproducts.com
> ---Decks a-wash in a sea of words---

If you haven't already seen it, then this site might interest you:
http://www.hobbymolding.com/forum/

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