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TOPIC: Cheater's Notes
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== 1 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 7:54 am
From: "lab~rat >:-)"

On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 09:26:08 -0600, grey_ghost471-newsgroups@yahoo.com
(Gray Ghost) puked:

>"lab~rat >:-)" <chase@cheeze.net> wrote in
>news:01o0n5dt5veqolotqbttop7f9p9u3anutf@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 05:29:27 -0500, Cliff
>><Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> puked:
>>
>>> http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978036226
>>> "Sarah Palin Reads Cheat Notes Off Her Hand:"
>>
>> Does anyone besides me find it absolutely fucking hilarious that the
>> libs have hitched their wagons to this story?
>
>It's pretty much all they have. The big O has been notable for his losses
>over the past year. The Olympics, Copenhagen, 3 elections, health care
>"deform". Guy seems to pull a black cloud along with him whereever he goes.
>
>Under the circumstances, grasping at straws against potential opponents is
>about all the left has. There certainly isn't anything substantial and
>positive they can talk about. So childish stupidity is about all they have.
>Well, that and lies.
>

I love how they've even gone to the "blame Bush" well too many times
for it to be effective. I guess the next state of the union will be
the same set of platitudes, only this time a few Sarah Palin jokes and
maybe a Glenn Beck one...
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

== 2 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 8:59 am
From: "Steve B"

"No-bammer" <no-bammer@fgi.net> wrote

> What's funny is when Buckwheat's teleprompter breaks down and he starts
> talkin gobbledygook.

It's pathetic, not funny. A college educated law professor who has no
original thoughts, but who must repeat what is fed to him on a teleprompter.
Max Headroom was a better automated speaker. Where is all the intelligence
and knowledge this man is SUPPOSED to possess?

Imagine him being YOUR lawyer on a serious case, and doing his jury
summation.

On second thought, forget that. I can't imagine it, therefore it would be
wrong to ask you to imagine it.

Steve

== 3 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 9:04 am
From: "Steve B"

"Tater Gumfries" <tater@kernsholler.net> wrote in message
news:bf627b5c-82bd-4341-9e9d-02552e13021b@l26g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 8, 4:03 pm, "Sid9" <s...@belsouth.net> wrote:

> Sarah "Palm Pilot" read her entire speech word for word from paper on the
> lectern.

Typically, that's what Obama does too -- read his speech. Difference
is, he can speak intelligently off the cuff too. Imagine Palin having
a sit down with Democrats askin her hard questions.

Tater

I've heard him speak "off the cuff". I hear very little intelligence there.
I hear very little original thought. Clichés and verbose combinations of
words that are just Newspeak.

Here's my take on sitting the two of them down for hard questions. Palin
would answer as a normal person, maybe not the most eloquent of the two.
Buckwheat would go on into the ozone on literary painting trips, splashing
his literary pallet all over the place, except on the answer.

Steve

== 4 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 8:19 am
From: grey_ghost471-newsgroups@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost)

Tater Gumfries <tater@kernsholler.net> wrote in news:bf627b5c-82bd-4341-9e9d-
02552e13021b@l26g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:

> On Feb 8, 4:03 pm, "Sid9" <s...@belsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> Sarah "Palm Pilot" read her entire speech word for word from paper on the
>> lectern.
>
> Typically, that's what Obama does too -- read his speech. Difference
> is, he can speak intelligently off the cuff too. Imagine Palin having
> a sit down with Democrats askin her hard questions.
>
> Tater
>

Ask him to pronounce "corpsman". IMO he sounded about as stupid and
uneducated as an inner city dropout.

--
God, guns and guts made America great.

And Janet Napolitano nervous.

Which should tell you all you need to know about Democrats. How can one
restore America to greatness if greatness makes you uncomfortable?

== 5 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 8:58 am
From: "§nühw¤£f"

Cliff <Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> clouded the waters
of pure thought with
news:1hq2n59f1dsop57e6hoijqbul76qmijetr@4ax.com:

> On 8 Feb 2010 07:15:01 -0600, "Fred B. Brown"
> <fredbbrown@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Cliff" <Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in
>>message news:s7mvm59ig2tga227km7phfvgumcfasapcn@4ax.com...
>>> http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=2814749780362
>>> 26 "Sarah Palin Reads Cheat Notes Off Her Hand:"
>>
>>Six words, stupid. A good speaker uses notes, not like a certain
>>jackass we know who can't give a speech without a TelePrompter. At
>>least Palin doesn't need to lug one of those around everywhere she
>>goes.
>
> A written speach is one thing.
> IIRC Even Lincoln had written down his Gettysburg Address.
> Simple Q & A is quite another.
>
> Or are you claiming it was a put-up fraud & she could not even
> remember four lines?
>
> Any bets on all those colleges she went to to learn
> about basketball?
> Kicked out for cheating ....
>

THis pretty much says it all:
http://www.pavlovianobeisance.com/palin_cheatsheet.htm

"breathe"

LULZ!

>
>>
>>> This would be funny if it weren't also pretty sad:
>>> http://beltwayblips.dailyradar.com/video/sarah-palin-reads-cheat-
>>> notes-on-her-hand/ She had to do this, despite only accepting
>>> pre-approved questions. And there
>>> are actually human beings walking around who think she should be
>>> President.
>>> Wow...E
>>
>>Liar, Obama is the one who demands pre-approved questions.
>
> That was bushco. He even used plants. You lie like a winger.

Remember that fake news reporter Jeff Gannon?

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Jeff_Gannon

Major LULZ!

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== 6 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 9:49 am
From: Lookout

On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 09:06:20 -0500, Cliff
<Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:

>On 8 Feb 2010 07:15:01 -0600, "Fred B. Brown" <fredbbrown@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Cliff" <Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
>>news:s7mvm59ig2tga227km7phfvgumcfasapcn@4ax.com...
>>> http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978036226
>>> "Sarah Palin Reads Cheat Notes Off Her Hand:"
>>
>>Six words, stupid. A good speaker uses notes, not like a certain jackass
>>we know who can't give a speech without a TelePrompter. At least Palin
>>doesn't need to lug one of those around everywhere she goes.
>
> A written speach is one thing.
> IIRC Even Lincoln had written down his Gettysburg Address.
> Simple Q & A is quite another.
>
> Or are you claiming it was a put-up fraud & she could not even
>remember four lines?

That's exactly what happened.

> Any bets on all those colleges she went to to learn
>about basketball?
> Kicked out for cheating ....
>
>
>>
>>> This would be funny if it weren't also pretty sad:
>>> http://beltwayblips.dailyradar.com/video/sarah-palin-reads-cheat-notes-on-her-hand/
>>> She had to do this, despite only accepting pre-approved questions. And
>>> there
>>> are actually human beings walking around who think she should be
>>> President.
>>> Wow...E
>>
>>Liar, Obama is the one who demands pre-approved questions.
>
> That was bushco. He even used plants. You lie like a winger.

== 7 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 9:52 am
From: Lookout

On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:15:54 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <chase@cheeze.net>
wrote:

>On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 09:06:20 -0500, Cliff
><Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> puked:
>
>>On 8 Feb 2010 07:15:01 -0600, "Fred B. Brown" <fredbbrown@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Cliff" <Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
>>>news:s7mvm59ig2tga227km7phfvgumcfasapcn@4ax.com...
>>>> http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978036226
>>>> "Sarah Palin Reads Cheat Notes Off Her Hand:"
>>>
>>>Six words, stupid. A good speaker uses notes, not like a certain jackass
>>>we know who can't give a speech without a TelePrompter. At least Palin
>>>doesn't need to lug one of those around everywhere she goes.
>>
>> A written speach is one thing.
>> IIRC Even Lincoln had written down his Gettysburg Address.
>> Simple Q & A is quite another.
>>
>> Or are you claiming it was a put-up fraud & she could not even
>>remember four lines?
>
>Have you EVER done any public speaking?

I have. I used to MC promotion and retirement parties while in the
Army. Never once had to write something on my hand. In fact It think
it's an utterly juvenile thing to do. When my daughter was young she'd
write phone numbers on her had and I made her stop. It's an absolutely
asinine thing to do.
And to be honest the cheaters in school did it easily when ever they
wanted. The DUMB kids wrote on their hands and got caught. And that's
what she is..the dumb kid in class who got caught cheating.

== 8 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 9:53 am
From: Lookout

On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 09:14:05 -0500, Cliff
<Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:

>On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:26:20 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_real@bogus.net> wrote:
>
>>Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:04:35 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_real@bogus.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Cliff <Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Sarah Palin Reads Cheat Notes Off Her Hand:"
>>>>
>>>>Ah, yes. Palin again. Just what is your fascination with her?
>>>>
>>>>Could it simply be that she is a good foil to take the heat of 0bama's
>>>>meltdown?
>>>
>>>Nah..she's just fucking hilarious!
>>
>>So are the Keystone Kops.
>
> She could play ... except they had skills.
>
Ya...they knew how to take a fall. All she can do it quit

>>Why doesn't Little Cliffy use them to
>>divert us from the ObamaMess?
>
> Spoken like the winger that you are.

== 9 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 9:59 am
From: Lookout

On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 09:16:37 -0600, grey_ghost471-newsgroups@yahoo.com
(Gray Ghost) wrote:

>"Sid9" <sid9@belsouth.net> wrote in
>news:hkq589$9mo$1@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>>
>> "Lookout" <mrLookout@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:7t11n551nucgrgiufv9orj8tahigo5hf5k@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:28:19 -0600, grey_ghost471-newsgroups@yahoo.com
>>> (Gray Ghost) wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Sid9" <sid9@belsouth.net> wrote in
>>>>news:hkpdcb$2ei$1@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gunner Asch" <gunnerasch@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:lv90n5tnmo842imrm1v4setl2ttkfe960j@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 06:04:38 -0800 (PST), Ramon F Herrera
>>>>>> <ramon@conexus.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Feb 8, 8:00 am, Ramon F Herrera <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Feb 8, 7:15 am, "Fred B. Brown" <fredbbr...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > "Cliff" <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in
>>>>>>>> > message
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >news:s7mvm59ig2tga227km7phfvgumcfasapcn@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=2814749780362
>>>>>>>> > > 26
>>>>>>>> > > "Sarah Palin Reads Cheat Notes Off Her Hand:"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > Six words, stupid. A good speaker uses notes, not like a certain
>>>>>>>> > jackass we know who can't give a speech without a TelePrompter.
>>>>>>>> > At least Palin doesn't need to lug one of those around everywhere
>>>>>>>> > she goes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > > This would be funny if it weren't also pretty sad:
>>>>>>>> > >http://beltwayblips.dailyradar.com/video/sarah-palin-reads-cheat-
>>>>>>>> > >not e...
>>>>>>>> > > She had to do this, despite only accepting pre-approved
>>>>>>>> > > questions. And
>>>>>>>> > > there
>>>>>>>> > > are actually human beings walking around who think she should
>>>>>>>> > > be President.
>>>>>>>> > > Wow...E
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > Liar, Obama is the one who demands pre-approved questions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Does Obama caress his legs and wink?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The body language does not lie. Check her out in the video.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2010/02/06/palin.tea.party.q
>>>>>>>a.c nn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/yhzet3n
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Any psychologist will tell you that being questioned brought her back
>>>>>>>to those tests in college. She resorted to the tricks that helped in
>>>>>>>all the colleges from which she quit when the going got tough.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You can clearly see how she looks at the palm of her hand, looking
>>>>>>>for the answers in a "cheating sheet" which in 2010 is not there.
>>>>>>>Still, it is a comforting reflex.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What did she do if the professor noticed her cheating? Ah! Her
>>>>>>>infallible defense, she turned on her sex appeal, bringing attention
>>>>>>>to her legs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Count how many times she caresses her lower extremities. After all,
>>>>>>>why stop using the techniques which have never failed her?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-Ramon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And where is her teleprompter?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gunner
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whenever a Liberal utters the term "Common Sense approach"....grab
>>>>>> your wallet, your ass, and your guns because the sombitch is about to
>>>>>> do something damned nasty to all three of them.
>>>>> .
>>>>> .
>>>>> Sarah's not smart enough to use a teleprompter...she read her speech
>>>>> from paper...then in answering questions she wrote a crib on the palm
>>>>> of her hand....because she was very nervous the ink ran and spread all
>>>>> over her palm .. Tell Sarah she should join us in the 21st Century
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Are you so foolish as to believe that new is always better?
>>>
>>> That's not what he said.
>>> Problem following the tread again?
>> .
>> .
>> New is better.
>>
>> The speaker can keep his/her head raised and their attention on the
>> audience.
>>
>> Sarah "Palm Pilot" read her entire speech word for word from paper on the
>> lectern.
>>
>>
>
>I bet she can pronounce corpse-man correctly, though. 8)

I bet bush still can't pronounce nuclear but that never bothered you.
Why are you so two faced? Were you brought up this way..learned it
from you're parents or did you become a shallow little ignorant
lemming all by yourself?

== 10 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 9:58 am
From: "Stormin Mormon"

I thought it was the union thugs, and the Acorn crooks.
Silly me.

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Learn more about Jesus
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.

"Ramon F Herrera" <ramon@conexus.net> wrote in message
news:aaeac756-ef7b-40fd-837c-da9bd1ff0835@j31g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...

It has been widely acknowledged -worldwide- that one of the
main
factors in Obama's electoral victory was his superior
debating and
oratory skills.

== 11 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 9:56 am
From: "Stormin Mormon"

Only after signing tax increases.

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Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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.

"Ramon F Herrera" <ramon@conexus.net> wrote in message
news:3c55218d-325d-45ea-a713-
Does Obama caress his legs and wink?

-Ramon

== 12 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 10:02 am
From: "Stormin Mormon"

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2009/02/12/obamas-pre-approved-press-list-last-getting-notice

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

"Lookout" <mrLookout@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:gp11n59tp6gdef5u218arumn7uulpl1u9l@4ax.com...
> Liar, Obama is the one who demands pre-approved
questions.

Prove it

== 13 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 10:03 am
From: "Stormin Mormon"

It's nuke-you-ler, just like Jimmuh Kottah says.

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"Wes" <clutch@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:un1cn.130350$tq1.97033@en-nntp-03.dc1.easynews.com...
Mark Rand <randm@internettie.co.uk> wrote:

>And just how should one pronounce "nuclear"?

Devastation ;)

== 14 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 10:05 am
From: Lookout

On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 07:40:52 -0800 (PST), Tater Gumfries
<tater@kernsholler.net> wrote:

>On Feb 8, 4:03 pm, "Sid9" <s...@belsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> Sarah "Palm Pilot" read her entire speech word for word from paper on the
>> lectern.
>
>Typically, that's what Obama does too -- read his speech. Difference
>is, he can speak intelligently off the cuff too. Imagine Palin having
>a sit down with Democrats askin her hard questions.
>
>Tater

She tried that with Katie Couric and ABC's Gibson..and we all got to
see exactly what she can do when speaking off the cuff. She's a
fucking idiot.

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TOPIC: O.T. Toyota accelerator pics and explanations
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 7:58 am
From: Joe Pfeiffer

Winston <Winston@bigbrother.net> writes:

> On 2/8/2010 10:13 AM, Don Foreman wrote:
>
> (...)
>
>> My wife's Corolla has a neat safety feature. There's a footpedal on
>> the floor to the left of the brake pedal. Depressing this pedal
>> disconnects the engine from the drive train!
>
> That is nifty!
>
> Say Don -- I always wondered what that funny little lever was that
> sticks out of the left side of the steering column.
> I bumped it once and there was flashing lights and a ticking sound!
>
> Scared the crap out of me.

Ah, so you're this guy?
http://www.bbspot.com/News/2003/11/bmw.html
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be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours;
and this we should do freely and generously. (Benjamin Franklin)

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TOPIC: Finished Modified Versa Cart And Testing Results
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/6098ae6cc51424c1?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 8:03 am
From: Joe788

On Feb 9, 12:20 am, Joe788 <larryro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Feb 7, 1:14 pm, "vinny" <vi...@vp3d.net> wrote:
>
> > *********
> > Maybe like a waterloo? Those shit boxes suck ass.
> > *********
>
> You once again prove you're a fucking moron. What part of roll cage
> construction and good value don't you understand?
>
> http://www.wttool.com/landing/waterloo.php
>
> > ********
> > That wheel is fucking stipid. I wouldn't go so far as to call it dangerous
> > though.
> > ********
>
> Not according to suck ass motherfuckers like the real / fake Joe788,
> Cliffy Huprich, Tom Brewer and their groupie Krissy Hogg, etc. Cliffy
> Huprich is so fucking dumb and so fucking stupid he can't understand
> how easy it would be to bolt the stupid wheel back on if I wanted to
> sell the Versa Cart. They just don't come any dumber than Cliffy
> Huprich who has zero practical experience at machining and modern
> CADCAM along with very little mechanical ability.
>
> ******
>
> > it's not the wheels that make the versa cart such a piece of crap, its
> > sheetmetal. Where the wheels bolt on flexes in one direction because its
> > sheet metal.
>
> It's because the Kennedy toolboxes that both you and I own lack a roll
> cage. Get a fucking clue you loser.
>
> http://www.wttool.com/landing/waterloo.php
>
> > right now all that is on the top of my box is a surface plate. It is un
> > tippable. And by the way I'm not an idiot. lol (reminds me, i need to get
> > some beer for the game today)
> > *****
>
> It's your pals that think it will dipshit, not me. I'm sure it won't
> tip over unlike suck ass, ignorant, lying motherfuckers like Tom
> Brewer (now posting as Larry Rozer) who's almost as dumb and as
> ignorant as Cliffy Huprich and the real / fake Joe788.
>
> > **********
> > The problem is sheet meatal. Wood does not flex like sheetmetal. Plus using
> > that cart raises the box up, ruining the whole center of gravity gimmic.
> > **********
>
> The problem is a lack of roll cage construction.
>
> http://www.wttool.com/landing/waterloo.php
>
> > that minime box on the end is useless. Its holds nothing of value.
>
> I love it and it works out great for me. Holds lots of things of value
> none of which a broke motherfucker living in a swamp like Florida can
> afford. You hear me, boy?
>
> > The trick is the center wheels are slightly higher than the outside
> > wheels. The box can easily spin around center, or by slightly lifting on
> > either end it will rotate around the opposite end. Or by lifting one end
> > bearly at all it will easily slide over. My box moves around easier than
> > even a single kennedy because it will rotate around center.
> > It's so stable I leave a 24" stand with a digital drop indicator on the
> > surface plate when moving around.
>
> Why are you trying to convince someone who is already sold on the
> concept? Maybe one reason you hate quality, professional sales people
> is that unlike you they don't waste their fucking time selling someone
> who is already sold on a concept. Is this sinking in yet you dumb
> motherfucker.
>
> > But if I remove the drawers, I hang it out the back of my tiny kia sportage
> > with no problems. last time I didnt even tie it down, I just held it and
> > drove 15 miles.
> > But the trick is to get your new job to pick up your tools anyway.
>
> Shouldn't a racist, ignorant redneck like you join me in driving an
> american pickup truck like a Chevy or a Ford instead of some piece of
> shit like a KIA Sportage? You really are fucking dumb.
>
> > Look jb, your so annoying...
>
> You ain't seen nothing yet motherfucker. ;>)

HAHAHAHAHA!!! Jon's new buzzword of the week, "ROLL CAGE
CONSTRUCTION!"

How many times will Jon say "ROLL CAGE CONSTRUCTION!" this week?

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TOPIC: Just How Fucked Up Has The CADCAM Business Become?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 8:05 am
From: Joe788

On Feb 8, 11:54 pm, Joe788 <larryro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Leading Surfcam VAR for the San Diego area now gone.
>
> With 20 plus years in the business he has this to say:
>
> http://www.performancecadcam.com/

You're too stupid to realize that he's literally insulting YOU by
writing that.

Your stupidity knows no bounds.

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TOPIC: Where to get quality lights? (was Re: Lighting and security fence)
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 8:23 am
From: RBnDFW

Charles U Farley wrote:
> Paul Conners <pconners98@gUSmail.com> wrote in
> news:0001HW.C795CAF500432082B08A39AF@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> What kind of mounts are used for putting a security light fixture at
>> the top of a post of a 10-ft "hurricane" fence with barbed wire atop
>> (not razor wire).
>>
>> Is there a standard replacement for the "acorn" tops of these posts
>> that are used for attaching a light? Or is it just a custom job?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>
> Depends on what kind of light fixture you are using. HID floods can be
> ordered with a knuckle to fit directly over the end of the pipe, assuming
> it is one of a few standard sizes. Properly powering the fixture is not
> going to be simple since these are designed for lamp standards and you
> won't have the wiring inside your fence posts. You could bolt a length of
> flat bar to a cast fixture box and hoseclamp it to the top of your posts if
> you want to use $29 hardware store motion lights.

I need to replace my outdoor motion sensor lights.
Actually, I just need the sensors on several.
Last time I tried to find quality equipment but had nothing to assure me
of what i was getting.

So where does one find high-quality motion-sensors that will last?
Recommended brands or models?

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TOPIC: I need help with a drill press chuck taper DIN Bxx Tapers
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/187fe29c5b81bcb6?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 8:28 am
From: "Wild_Bill"

I thought the DIN relationship to Morse tapers was interesting, too. The
European UK? MSC/J&L website searches list chucks with Bxx mounts by Bison,
Rohm and a *value* source (China/India, possibly).

The Enco and MSC USA sites don't seem to recognize B10 (etc) as a drill
chuck feature/parameter.

Actually, the Jacobs link was already abbreviated where I found it (in a web
forum discussion), and I figgered most of the readers here would be able to
decipher the link or find the document, if the link didn't work.

This hack/spit MS Vistablows machine has so many security protections, I
can't even view a PDF in the browser from a link.
I'm unable to even save PDFs from links that are posted in RCM. For links to
PDFs in the Dropbox (for example), I have to navigate to the Dropbox, then
find the PDF, then use the Save Target function.

I was actually surprised when I could retrieve (Save Target) the Jacobs PDF
from an abbreviated link.
I don't care about trying to fix these things, it's just bothersome.

--
WB
.........
metalworking projects
www.kwagmire.com/metal_proj.html

"DoN. Nichols" <dnichols@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
news:slrnhn1e4g.r02.dnichols@Katana.d-and-d.com...
> On 2010-02-08, Wild_Bill <wb_wildbill@XSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
>> I was curious about a European standard for drill chuck tapers, and found
>> some info that refers to them as Bxx series tapers (B10, 12, 16, 18, 20,
>> 22,
>> 24).
>> The actual standard may be DIN 238, but I'm not sure about that.
>
> [ ... ]
>
>> http://www.jacobschuck.com/pdf/Techn...nformation.pdf
>> This link may not work, as it was just copied and pasted, but I was able
>> to
>> get the pdf with a Save Target from the original link.
>
> The main problem with the above is that your news server, in the
> interests of protecting privacy, have snipped the middle out of the
> last part of the URL. I was able to guess (on the second try) what it
> should be:
>
> <http://www.jacobschuck.com/pdf/Technical-information.pdf>
>
> or if that gets compressed, replace the last part of the original quoted
> above with "Technical-information.pdf".
>
> Interesting -- the tapers of the DIN B series chuck mounting
> tapers match that of a very truncated section of a Morse taper instead
> of using the Jacobs tapers.
>
> Enjoy,
> DoN.
>
> --
> Email: <dnichols@d-and-d.com> | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564
> (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html
> --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero ---

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TOPIC: OT- Product Of The YEAR! -Somebody Should Get A Nobel Prize For This-
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/5f763679111ec221?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 8:30 am
From: alan200@iinet.net.oz

On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:05:13 -0500, "Ed Huntress"
<huntres23@optonline.net> wrote:

>
>"Fred Abse" <excretatauris@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>news:pan.2010.02.08.09.04.17.755102@invalid.invalid...
>> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:45:57 -0500, Ed Huntress wrote:
>>
>>> They're difficult enough, sometimes, even if the traffic stays on the
>>> right side of the road. The first time I encountered one in the UK, it
>>> felt like being in a demolition derby.
>>
>> You should try going round the Arc de Triomphe in Paris. No rules, no
>> discipline, every man for himself, change lane at will without using
>> mirror.
>
>I have. In a Renault Caravelle. And lived to tell about it. <g>

Rome is no different, every car is 3 metres wide and 2 metres
long. Fortunately I was driving a bigger car so I signalled and
started changing lanes after a few seconds.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 9:18 am
From: "David Courtney"

The Wisconsin DOT just sent out a flyer with my license plate renewal,
claiming "Crash statistics show that roundabouts reduce fatal crashes by
about 90%, reduce injury crashes about 75%, and reduce overall crashes by
about 35% when compared to other types of intersection control."
www.wisconsinroundabouts.gov
"Today's roundabouts are much smaller than the "traffic circles" of
earlier years."

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TOPIC: Hey Ed, that snow coming up your way?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/5da3fd42a63375e4?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 8:52 am
From: rangerssuck

On Feb 9, 7:30 am, Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 04:39:47 -0500, the infamous Wes
> <clu...@lycos.com> scrawled the following:
>
> >rangerssuck <rangerss...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>Talk about that to the Olympics organizers in Vancouver, where they're
> >>bringing in snow by truck & helicopter. Maybe you ought to think
> >>before you type.
>
> >DC has some they can spare.
>
> My buddy in D.C. just emailed yesterday. They've had 2' so far, and
> 20" extra are due in today through Wednesday. He'd just finished 3
> hours of shoveling when the damned snow plow FINALLY came by and undid
> his entire day's work in seconds. I'd have heaved the shovel at the
> b*tch on the plow. ;)

Then your buddy did some poor planning. I know that folks in DC don't
have a lot of experience with this, but if he shoveled for three hours
and it was undone by a plow, well that's just poor planning (or slow
shoveling).

> It appears that he was off (govvie) yesterday and the whole gov't will
> again be off today and probably Wednesday. As he put it "This is, of
> course, not out of consideration for the quarter-million gov't
> employees in the greater DC area, but rather in honor of Obama's
> strong snow shoveling heritage on his Kenyan's father's side of his
> family."
>
> It brought tears to me eyes, it did.

Is there some sort of universal rule that says that you & Gunner can't
post anything at all without some added bullshit political comment?

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TOPIC: A new "constitutional right"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/8e77e80070fe5b42?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 9:17 am
From: "RD (The Sandman)"

Cliff <Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in
news:bnr2n553br73sg7e1pe95hd131h9lrs85a@4ax.com:

> On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:18:52 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Cliff <Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in
>>news:nvqvm5h8u7ai52nj94b2njlm5gp2c8q4e0@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:50:25 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
>>> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Cliff <Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in
>>>>news:7patm5h3s64v55e9oac3rlsggui7qajru2@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 12:41:22 -0600, grey_ghost471-
>>newsgroups@yahoo.com
>>>>> (Gray Ghost) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> OTOH Glen Beck was just moaning & crying that
>>>>>>> not enough people have lost their homes & been tossed
>>>>>>> out in the cold & that some people & firms still have
>>>>>>> some credit.
>>>>>>> Wait til they get sick & try to get a bit of heathcare.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1) I thought you didn't watch Beck?
>>>>>>2) I do, which show and at waht time did he say that.
>>>>>>3) I didn't thnk so.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are a winger & hence must be lying.
>>>>>
>>>>>>They call him Cliff 'cuz he keeps falling off of one.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,584649,00.html
>>>>> <Snicker>
>>>>
>>>>Where in that cite, specifically, did he make the statement you claim
>>>>above?
>>>
>>> You cannot read?
>>
>>Apparently you can't. Where in that cite, specifically, did he make
the
>>statement you claim above. Just to refresh your memory, that claim,
>>specifically, was, "OTOH Glen Beck was just moaning & crying that not
>>enough people have lost their homes & been tossed out in the cold &
that
>>some people & firms still have
>>some credit."
>
> Get reading lessons.

I'll just consider that you couldn't do it.

--
Sleep well tonight,

RD (The Sandman)

Some points to ponder:
Why is it good if a vacuum cleaner really sucks?
Why is the third hand on a clock called the "second hand"?
Why did Kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
Why do we sing "Take me out to the ballgame" when we are already
there?

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TOPIC: Low speeds - any disadvantages?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/6bc7cd3f77e41b75?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 9:27 am
From: Mark Rand

On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 13:24:56 -0000, "Dave H."
<hopefuldave_doesnt_eat_spiced_ham@hotmail.com> wrote:

> any hints and tips would be
>appreciated!
>

Might be easier if you could tell us what lathe it is (make/model). Then
people may be able to offer suggestions of weak or strong points from personal
experience.

Regards
Mark Rand
RTFM

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 9 2010 10:01 am
From: "Dave H."

"Mark Rand" wrote...

>
> Might be easier if you could tell us what lathe it is (make/model). Then
> people may be able to offer suggestions of weak or strong points from
> personal
> experience.
>

Good Idea...

It's a post-war (WW2, not the Great War!) Milnes 13", popping out to look at
it in a few mins... NOT buying it while I'm there, need to see if it'll fit
in the shed first!

Thanks,
Dave H.
--
(The engineer formerly known as Homeless)

"Rules are for the obedience of fools, and the guidance of wise men" -
Douglas Bader

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