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TOPIC: Does the police hassle drivers for driving below speed limits
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== 1 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 25 2010 2:44 pm
From: Stuart Wheaton

Ignoramus2215 wrote:
> On 2010-02-25, Doug Miller <spambait@milmac.com> wrote:
>> In article <LtCdnQavgeq5XhvWnZ2dnUVZ_hRi4p2d@giganews.com>, Ignoramus2215 <ignoramus2215@NOSPAM.2215.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2010-02-25, Doug Miller <spambait@milmac.com> wrote:
>>>> In my opinion, it depends a lot on what type of highway you're on. Interstate
>>>> highways typically have a minimum speed of 45, and if you're going slower than
>>>> that you're creating a considerable traffic hazard, as well as risking a
>>>> ticket for violating the law. 40mph, with hazard flashers, on a State or U.S.
>>>> highway, isn't nearly such a problem, since the speeds are typically lower
>>>> anyway on such routes.
>>>>
>>>> If you're not going to be driving any faster than 40, you don't belong on an
>>>> interstate highway, or any other high-speed limited access road.
>>> It is Hwy 88, which I think is considered an interstate. I think, I
>>> can drive 45 mph without problems.
>> "Hwy 88" where?
>
> Sorry, the people's republic of Illinois.
>
> i

Based on when I taught at NIU, if you pick the right time of day, you'll
never get close to 45 mph...

I-88 is a coin-operated interstate highway that frequently pretends it
is a parking lot.

== 2 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 25 2010 1:15 pm
From: "Steve B"

"Steve Lusardi" <stevenospam@lusardi.de> wrote in message
news:hm6fs1$gff$00$1@news.t-online.com...
> Iggy,
> If you actually read the speed laws, they refer to the maximum SAFE speed,
> which is not necessarily the max posted speed. These laws do consider
> circumstances and road conditions. So in your case, if in your judgment,
> the safe speed is forty and your judgment is justifiable, you should be
> OK.
> Steve

Agreed. It's a whiteout. Are they going to ticket everyone who is going
under 45? Like I said, I think you only may be guilty if caught.

Steve

== 3 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 25 2010 1:13 pm
From: "Steve B"

"Ignoramus2215" <ignoramus2215@NOSPAM.2215.invalid> wrote in message
news:LtCdnQavgeq5XhvWnZ2dnUVZ_hRi4p2d@giganews.com...
> On 2010-02-25, Doug Miller <spambait@milmac.com> wrote:
>> In article <0_idnWca2ZbpIhvWnZ2dnUVZ_uZi4p2d@giganews.com>, Ignoramus2215
>> <ignoramus2215@NOSPAM.2215.invalid> wrote:
>>>That Series II Bridgeport mill weighs 5000 lbs, plus or minus. My
>>>trailer axles are 6,000 lbs, which means that I will be slightly above
>>>the rating.
>>>
>>>The easiest way from the seller would be on a highway, which is
>>>actually a decently paved highway. In any case, I would like to drive
>>>slowly, like 40-45 miles an hour, this way I would get the best of
>>>both worlds, safe slow driving and highway quality road.
>>>
>>>My question is, how likely will the police be to hassle me for driving
>>>too slowly, if, say, the lowest speed limit is 45 and I am going 40.
>>
>> In my opinion, it depends a lot on what type of highway you're on.
>> Interstate
>> highways typically have a minimum speed of 45, and if you're going slower
>> than
>> that you're creating a considerable traffic hazard, as well as risking a
>> ticket for violating the law. 40mph, with hazard flashers, on a State or
>> U.S.
>> highway, isn't nearly such a problem, since the speeds are typically
>> lower
>> anyway on such routes.
>>
>> If you're not going to be driving any faster than 40, you don't belong on
>> an
>> interstate highway, or any other high-speed limited access road.
>
> It is Hwy 88, which I think is considered an interstate. I think, I
> can drive 45 mph without problems.
>
> i

If your truck is like mine, 45 on the speedo is about 42. If you are really
poking along at 30, you have no argument. But you have a plausible argument
if you say your speedo was reading 45.

Make damn sure tires, hitch, safety chains, tie downs, and Depends are all
in place and tight.

Steve

== 4 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 25 2010 1:09 pm
From: "Steve B"

"Ignoramus2215" <ignoramus2215@NOSPAM.2215.invalid> wrote in message
news:0_idnWca2ZbpIhvWnZ2dnUVZ_uZi4p2d@giganews.com...
> That Series II Bridgeport mill weighs 5000 lbs, plus or minus. My
> trailer axles are 6,000 lbs, which means that I will be slightly above
> the rating.
>
> The easiest way from the seller would be on a highway, which is
> actually a decently paved highway. In any case, I would like to drive
> slowly, like 40-45 miles an hour, this way I would get the best of
> both worlds, safe slow driving and highway quality road.
>
> My question is, how likely will the police be to hassle me for driving
> too slowly, if, say, the lowest speed limit is 45 and I am going 40.

Sounds like about $200 likely. Just depends if Barney Fife is working that
day or not..............

Steve

== 5 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 25 2010 1:17 pm
From: "Steve B"

"Ignoramus2215" <ignoramus2215@NOSPAM.2215.invalid> wrote in message
news:yuCdnc1G68h8WhvWnZ2dnUVZ_u1i4p2d@giganews.com...
> On 2010-02-25, RAM? <s31924.nospam@netscape.net> wrote:
>> Ignoramus2215 <ignoramus2215@NOSPAM.2215.invalid> wrote in news:0
>> _idnWca2ZbpIhvWnZ2dnUVZ_uZi4p2d@giganews.com:
>>
>>> That Series II Bridgeport mill weighs 5000 lbs, plus or minus. My
>>> trailer axles are 6,000 lbs, which means that I will be slightly above
>>> the rating.
>>>
>>> The easiest way from the seller would be on a highway, which is
>>> actually a decently paved highway. In any case, I would like to drive
>>> slowly, like 40-45 miles an hour, this way I would get the best of
>>> both worlds, safe slow driving and highway quality road.
>>>
>>> My question is, how likely will the police be to hassle me for driving
>>> too slowly, if, say, the lowest speed limit is 45 and I am going 40.
>>
>> A lot will depend upon how many cars/trucks line up behind you.
>>
>> Travel at "off hours" (while the cops are having their breaks) and you'll
>> have fewer hassles.
>>
>> If you're only going across town, do it during Rush Hour since nobody'll
>> be able to go over 25 MPH anyway... <GRIN>
>
> It will be on a Saturday, I do not expect a lot of traffic.
>
> The problem is not only that this mill is heavy, but also that it is
> TALL and top heavy. This means that any kind of bouncing is amplified
> big time with more stress on the pintle, etc.
>
> I hate driving with knee mills in this trailer. this one will be third
> or fourth, noone were nearly as big. The Wells Index was under 3k
> lbs.
>
> i

Use chains and not nylon, unless the heavy 3" wide stuff, then use several
and check often.

Steve

== 6 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 25 2010 1:16 pm
From: "Steve B"

"Winston" <Winston@bigbrother.net> wrote in message
news:hm6fvd02b04@news4.newsguy.com...
> On 2/25/2010 10:20 AM, Ignoramus2215 wrote:
>> That Series II Bridgeport mill weighs 5000 lbs, plus or minus. My
>> trailer axles are 6,000 lbs, which means that I will be slightly above
>> the rating.
>>
>> The easiest way from the seller would be on a highway, which is
>> actually a decently paved highway. In any case, I would like to drive
>> slowly, like 40-45 miles an hour, this way I would get the best of
>> both worlds, safe slow driving and highway quality road.
>>
>> My question is, how likely will the police be to hassle me for driving
>> too slowly, if, say, the lowest speed limit is 45 and I am going 40.
>
>
> Looks like you are in the clear, Iggy.
> http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/062500050K11-606.htm
>
> (625 ILCS 5/11-606) (from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 11-606)
> Sec. 11-606. Minimum speed regulation. (a) No person shall drive a motor
> vehicle at such a slow speed as to impede or block the
> normal
> and reasonable movement of traffic *except when reduced
> speed
> is necessary for safe operation of his vehicle* or in
> compliance
> with law.
> (b) Whenever the Department, The Illinois State Toll Highway Authority,
> or
> a local authority described in Section 11-604 of this Chapter
> determines,
> upon the basis of an engineering and traffic investigation concerning
> a
> highway or street under its jurisdiction that slow vehicle speeds
> along
> any part or zone of such highway or street consistently impede the
> normal
> and reasonable movement of traffic, the Department, the Toll Highway
> Authority, or local authority (as appropriate) may determine and
> declare
> by proper regulation or ordinance a minimum speed limit below which
> no person
> shall drive *except when necessary for safe operation of his vehicle*
> or in
> compliance with law. A limit so determined and declared becomes
> effective
> when appropriate signs giving notice of the limit are erected along
> such
> part or zone of the highway or street.
> (Source: P.A. 81-840.)
>
>
> --Winston

Google it and print it for Barney.

Steve

== 7 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 25 2010 2:47 pm
From: Wes

"RAM�" <s31924.nospam@netscape.net> wrote:

>Interstate (and some non-Interstate) highways have MINIMUM speed limits in
>many states.

Yeah, well try to enforce that in a blizzard. I've had to drive by brail some mornings.
Those cuts they put in the highway to vibrate your tires are priceless in snow country.

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

== 8 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 25 2010 2:50 pm
From: Wes

rangerssuck <rangerssuck@gmail.com> wrote:

>> My question is, how likely will the police be to hassle me for driving
>> too slowly, if, say, the lowest speed limit is 45 and I am going 40.
>
>My niece was ticketed for slowing to 50 (in a 65 zone) during a heavy
>downpour. The cop was a real dick, but he was the one with the gun.

That is why you accept the ticket and show up in court. In my state, we both are likely
to have a gun. Kinda nice that way :)

Wes

== 9 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 25 2010 2:53 pm
From: Wes

Stuart Wheaton <sdwheaton@fuse.net> wrote:

>I-88 is a coin-operated interstate highway that frequently pretends it
>is a parking lot.

I've had to go though Ill Noise too many times. You can wear out your brakes just
stopping at shakedown booths. Oh, toll booths. I wonder how much of their toll road
system was built with federal (you and me) funds?

Wes

== 10 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 25 2010 3:15 pm
From: axolotl

On 2/25/2010 1:20 PM, Ignoramus2215 wrote:
> That Series II Bridgeport mill weighs 5000 lbs, plus or minus. My
> trailer axles are 6,000 lbs, which means that I will be slightly above
> the rating.
>
> The easiest way from the seller would be on a highway, which is
> actually a decently paved highway. In any case, I would like to drive
> slowly, like 40-45 miles an hour, this way I would get the best of
> both worlds, safe slow driving and highway quality road.
>
> My question is, how likely will the police be to hassle me for driving
> too slowly, if, say, the lowest speed limit is 45 and I am going 40.

The truth is hard, but must be told. The police will hassle you if they
do not like your looks, assuming they are not busy doing something else.
If you _look_ unsafe, prepare to be pulled over, no matter what the
speed limits may be.
Your trailer has a common failure point- the tires. You only have two,
and you are operating near or over their limits. If anything twitches,
you have an interesting situation. You need a different class of equipment.
Consider hiring riggers for a couple of hours. They have the right
stuff, and will put the mill where you want it in the garage. No drama.
As an alternative, you might think about renting an "escalator" trailer.
Keeps the COG low, and makes it easier to get the mill off, so you can
take the trailer back.

Worth what it costs.

Kevin Gallimore

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TOPIC: CNC question
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/d284fe4a80c3c3f8?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 25 2010 1:07 pm
From: "Steve B"

22 would be fine. I shall put a pic on flickr. Very simple.

Steve

"Pete C." <aux3.DOH.4@snet.net> wrote in message
news:4b869ee9$0$20208$ec3e2dad@unlimited.usenetmonster.com...
>
> Steve B wrote:
>>
>> "Ignoramus2215" <ignoramus2215@NOSPAM.2215.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:j7CdnXpI9OV36hvWnZ2dnUVZ_r2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> > On 2010-02-25, Steve B <deserttraver@fishmail.net> wrote:
>> >> Along I 15 in Las Vegas, there are some fake ocotillo plants. They
>> >> are
>> >> made
>> >> out of common rebar, and have an orange flower made of a piece of
>> >> sheet
>> >> metal about 2" x 6", cut in a squiggly pattern. Is there anyone in
>> >> this
>> >> group who has a CNC laser or plasma torch that might be up to making
>> >> me a
>> >> couple hundred?
>> >
>> > Steve, I thought that you had plans to buy one?
>> >
>> > i
>>
>> Reality set in.
>>
>> Steve
>
> I could cut them as long as they are say 22ga or thicker. I'm still
> working on fine tuning (well, avoiding since the shop is cold) my
> machine to handle really thin 30ga stuff, but no problem on stuff a bit
> thicker.

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TOPIC: Yikes !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/af70c9b9638afc86?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 25 2010 2:49 pm
From: stans4@prolynx.com

On Feb 25, 3:20 am, Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySurmudg...@live.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 05:06:07 -0500, Cliff
>
> <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
> >http://www.yikebike.com/site/gallery/video/yikebike-discovery-channel
> > (For the biker, jogger & auto crowd.)
>
> You'd be lucky to say "Yikes!" after a fast stop.
>
> Has the same center of gravity and leverage problem as the 1800's bikes
> with the large front wheel. Brake that wheel and the mass rotates around
> the axle slamming your face into the blacktop.
>
> --
> Regards, Curly

Yeah, would have done better to put the dinky wheel in front.
Wouldn't make a difference around here, you'd be ass-deep in a pothole
within a block, head-up OR head-down. And how's its snow-drift-
bucking performance, anyway?

Stan

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TOPIC: PC Hardware Problem
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/52adc8b84c613bed?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 25 2010 2:58 pm
From: "DoN. Nichols"

On 2010-02-25, Winston <Winston@bigbrother.net> wrote:
> On 2/24/2010 7:56 PM, DoN. Nichols wrote:
>
> (...)
>
>> I would find the machine which makes the Ersin Multicore solder
>> even more intersting. IIRC, it is five rosin cores whose centers form a
>> circle about half the diameter of the whole solder.
>>
>> At a guess -- slitting from the sides, squeezing the rosin into
>> the slits, then swaging the slits closed again over the solder.
>
> I guess the wire *could* be extruded 'open' and then swaged over
> the flux, too. Envision a gear with 5 teeth.

Yes. That would make sense.

> I guess that means single-core solder *could* start out as an
> extruded flat ribbon and the first die actually wraps it around
> the flux core sort of like a hot dog bun.

:-)

Which hot-dog bun? The New England style, which is slit down
the top (and baked joined with several others on the sides), or the more
widespread US one which is baked as individuals, and slit on the side?

What do you use for mustard on the solder? :-)

>> Is Ersin Multicore still made?
>
> Yup. Though I think they dropped the 'Ersin' name.
><http://www.newark.com/multicore-solder/mm00975/502-cored-wire-solder/dp/32M7025>

O.K. The Multicore logo looks the same as it used to at least.

> I bet flux smells exactly the same though. :)

That brings back memories. :-)

Enjoy,
DoN.

--
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TOPIC: CONTEST - what was wrong with this motor?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/4d3e3a665fe102ea?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 25 2010 2:59 pm
From: Ignoramus2215

On 2010-02-25, Wes <clutch@lycos.com> wrote:
> Ignoramus2215 <ignoramus2215@NOSPAM.2215.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On 2010-02-25, Wes <clutch@lycos.com> wrote:
>>> Ignoramus2215 <ignoramus2215@NOSPAM.2215.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I already posted the answer. "Nothing at all" is the closest
>>>>answer. It had a RESET button that needed to be pressed.
>>>
>>> Does this mean you bought a motor listed as dead?
>>
>>Yes.
>>
>>i
>
> 10 bucks, okay, but 24 bucks shipping hoping for a lucky break. Was this a local pick up
> item? I'm trying to figure out how clairvoyant you are when bidding.

It was 20 bucks shipping to me.

My reasoning to buy it was as follows.

1) The seller has great feedback. This means, without question, that
he is an honest person. Dishonest people do not have such feedback.
2) The seller did not know what was wrong with the motor. This means
that he knew that it did not "burn out".
3) He clearly had no clue what is wrong with it. This means that it is
likely something very simple.
4) If he said something like "probably a bad capacitor", likely it
would mean that he is lying, since if it was true he would know how to
fix it himself.
5) It is very risky to buy things at a high price because they can be
bad. Think of all the clapped out lathes on ebay, where the seller
would say something like "X swing, Y HP, power feed". Obviously he is
hiding something but wants to make $$$. If someone is selling some
item with known problems for a very small amount of $$$, you can be
sure there is no profit motive to lie and cheat. 1x

A buyer is coming today to pick it up. I was not very greedy, the
buyer is getting a great deal, but let's just say I made some $$$ and
has 3 minutes of fun getting it "fixed".

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TOPIC: Oh Happy Day! McMaster.com
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/e2881eee24858bd3?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 25 2010 3:00 pm
From: Wes

Winston <Winston@bigbrother.net> wrote:

>So just now, I'm finishing up my McMaster order and the
>website rejects my Discover card 'cause they only take
>VISA, Mastercard and AmEx.
>
>I need the parts for tomorrow morning; I wasn't able
>to find anyone else that could sell me two of the key
>parts. I have a loathe/hate relationship with my VISA
>card supplier so I don't want to send even this tiny
>amount of business VISA's way.
>
>What to do?
>
>I phoned McMaster and explained the situation.
>They didn't miss a beat. They said they can do an
>electronic transfer from my checking account!
>
>Gave them the info so I can have parts tomorrow.
>
>I am happy as a particularly happy clam.
>
>--Winston

I canceled a card once due to bad mag stripe. Well, the bank killed it when they sent the
replacement. McMaster shipped before billing and found out my card on file was dead. They
called, I gave them a different form of payment, everyone happy.

I like that company and their website. Plus, most of the stuff I get from them is USA
made. I like that.

Wes

--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

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TOPIC: What is it? Set 325
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 25 2010 3:00 pm
From: "Rob H."

"E Z Peaces" <cash@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:hm6t7d$ja0$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> Rob H. wrote:
>> Just posted another set of items:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> 1865: Hunting blind? Leave it in place for days or weeks so the animals
> get used to it. Sit on a chair watching through peep holes. When game or
> predator is in range with back turned, stand on chair and shoot.

Nope, none of the guesses are correct for this one. This tree section was
cut around 1870, was used until about 1957, and originally had a clapboard
roof.

Rob

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 25 2010 3:01 pm
From: "Rob H."

"Alexander Thesoso" <alexander_thesoso@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hm5moi$oe9$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> 1862 Bell. Fire Bell / Alarm Bell / Town Meeting Bell.

Fire alarm bell is correct.

Rob

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 25 2010 3:10 pm
From: "Rob H."

"DT" <dthompson4389@wowway.com> wrote in message
news:20100225-192049.484.0@DT.news.wowway.com...
> In article <hm5mjc01r6k@news5.newsguy.com>, rhvp65@gmail.com says...
>>Just posted another set of items:
>>
>>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Does 1862 have glass in it, or is that just an artifact in the photo?
>
> --
> Dennis
>

There isn't any glass in it, the artifact is from less-than-great digital
image modifications. ;-)

Rob

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 25 2010 3:19 pm
From: "Lee Michaels"

"Rob H." <rhvp65@gmail.com> wrote
>
> Nope, none of the guesses are correct for this one. This tree section was
> cut around 1870, was used until about 1957, and originally had a clapboard
> roof.
>
An outhouse?

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 25 2010 3:20 pm
From: "Rob H."

>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

> 1861.
>
> 1862. fire bell?
>
> 1863. (as someone else already posted) harrow
>
> 1864. rob, didn't you run one like this a couple weeks ago? even so i
> couldn't remember what it was. i'm guessing the other responses are
> correct, neat. or, maybe it was when i was googling some other item you
> posted i saw this thing in amongst some items at some website and thought
> "dayum, that thing looks like a REALLY cool sculpture!"

You must have seen it somewhere else, I didn't post one like this recently.

>
> 1865. again, (i guessed the tub from a few weeks was sycamore) some sort
> of sycamore item. wow that thing is huge. the hole near the top made me
> wonder if the hole was for looking through, like a native american arrow
> "armor", ridiculous huh? way too heavy. then i wondered if it was a "bee
> gum" but what bee keeper would want to go INSIDE his hive to get the
> honey?! and it still wouldn't be bear-proof. don't know but it's an
> impressive piece of wood.

It's suppposedly a gum tree section, and it wasn't used for a bee hive.

>
> 1866. that is one nasty looking thing. i'd guess for harpooning and
> simultaneously shooting, *twice*, some sort of sea animal, sharks?
> dolphins? barbed arrowhead and lanyard loop for retrieval of dead
> fish/manatee/whatever. wonder if it would be possible to waterproof such
> an item so it would shoot after being violently immersed in water.

I don't usually give clues or answers for the ones that are used in the
collaboration with Neatorama, but I will say that it's not water related.

Rob

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TOPIC: OT Gunsmoke for charity
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/23414e9a64c3a201?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 25 2010 3:01 pm
From: Don Foreman

On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 09:50:57 -0800, Bob Gentry <rgentry@oz.net> wrote:

>
>
>Don
>Not sure that this one is really OT. <g> Lots of metal being 'worked
>with' and 'moved arround'. (well. . . that last one assumes you were
>using metal slugs ;-)

You're right about that, several pounds of lead went downrange and
there was a LOT of brass on the floor before we were done.

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TOPIC: Checking on post problem, Help
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 25 2010 3:12 pm
From: Wes

"Ed Huntress" <huntres23@optonline.net> wrote:

>That's why I snip off most other NGs from those threads that Cliff starts. I
>can't even DL or read most of them. Others take so long to open that I
>stopped bothering with them over a year ago.

I only post in this newsgroup unless I manually check the headers and add the appropriate
cross posts. Call it a circuit breaker on my political leanings. It keeps it in the
group and I don't add to troll bait or politifcal chum.

>
>And who cares if some k00ks from those NGs read them? Talking to them is
>like holding a conversation with the inmates in the back ward of a mental
>asylum, anyway.

I'd just as soon not.

>
>I'm all for snipping off all other NGs, except for technical things for
>which others may be helpful, as with AMC or the electronics NGs. If Cliff
>would stop that cross-posting crap, it would save a lot of unpleasantness.

Cliff is a vandal. He is the equivalent of some punk spray painting your siding with his
gang colors. Same for TMT. TMT seems to be trying to get in position for Cliff's spot
when Cliff goes room temperature. The sad thing is there is someone that I think is TMT
on moderated boards that can actually ask provocative questions inside the goal lines but
will not give us the same courtesy.

Needless to say, both are filtered at the hard kill level.

Wes

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 25 2010 3:13 pm
From: Wes

Steve Ackman <steve@SNIP-THIS.twoloonscoffee.com> wrote:

> Oh, come on... alt.coffee is a valid crosspost at
>least once or twice a year! ;-)

Okay, those two loons are okay fine. There is always a few exceptions to a rule. :)

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

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TOPIC: Ping Don Foreman: ICD Alert
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/73fe240947f1f05b?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 25 2010 3:12 pm
From: Don Foreman

On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:12:26 -0800, Winston <Winston@bigbrother.net>
wrote:

>http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2010/February/10-civ-202.html
>
>--Winston

Man, I'm batting 1000. I have two Toyotas and a Boston Scientific
ICD. <G>

The two toys are among the recalled models, but fortunately my ICD is
a later model not known to have problems.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 25 2010 3:26 pm
From: Winston

On 2/25/2010 3:12 PM, Don Foreman wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:12:26 -0800, Winston<Winston@bigbrother.net>
> wrote:
>
>> http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2010/February/10-civ-202.html
>>
>> --Winston
>
> Man, I'm batting 1000. I have two Toyotas and a Boston Scientific
> ICD.<G>
>
> The two toys are among the recalled models, but fortunately my ICD is
> a later model not known to have problems.

Given the choice, I'd have done it that way, too.
:)

--Winston

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 25 2010 3:29 pm
From: Wes

Don Foreman <dforeman@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:12:26 -0800, Winston <Winston@bigbrother.net>
>wrote:
>
>>http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2010/February/10-civ-202.html
>>
>>--Winston
>
>Man, I'm batting 1000. I have two Toyotas and a Boston Scientific
>ICD. <G>
>
>The two toys are among the recalled models, but fortunately my ICD is
>a later model not known to have problems.

The cars can stay in your driveway, call your dealer and demand they pick those up,
install the fix and return them on their dime, glad your ICD is okay.

If you do drive the car to your dealer, small acceleration steps just to be careful and
practice shutting down in a non panic mode.

Wes
--
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government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

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