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TOPIC: 2010 fundraising
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/9812ea4eb04cc94d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 7 2010 12:31 pm
From: torquemada

On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:54:48 -0600
Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com> wrote:

> A first class Cluster Fuck.
> Oh LOOKIE who's back!
>
> Let's review some of your ueslessnet boasts, ya wannabesex-freak:
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:52:43 -0600
> Message-ID: <3p8bn5p27s4d8f336lleui5trp7tb097dv@4ax.com>
>
> "I can show you pics
> of my then girlfriend and now wife naked in the barracks."
>
> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:22:33 -0600
> Message-ID: <p1d4n5pedrchnffd7i545c7vgme5m93j98@4ax.com>
>
> "And as I said I had several 3somes with two girls and me so hey..I was all for it."
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> MBWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!!
>
> Come on kiddo, post the pics!!!!
>
> LOLOLOLOLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

--
http://hindutva.org/quran.html

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TOPIC: Congressional estimates show grim deficit picture
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/0e4acab742960cde?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 7 2010 12:33 pm
From: torquemada

On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 12:59:48 -0600
Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Once again the middle class got screwed.

> Oh LOOKIE who's back!
>
> Let's review some of your ueslessnet boasts, ya wannabesex-freak:
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:52:43 -0600
> Message-ID: <3p8bn5p27s4d8f336lleui5trp7tb097dv@4ax.com>
>
> "I can show you pics
> of my then girlfriend and now wife naked in the barracks."
>
> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:22:33 -0600
> Message-ID: <p1d4n5pedrchnffd7i545c7vgme5m93j98@4ax.com>
>
> "And as I said I had several 3somes with two girls and me so hey..I was all for it."
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> MBWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!!
>
> Come on kiddo, post the pics!!!!
>
> LOLOLOLOLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

--
http://hindutva.org/quran.html

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 7 2010 12:34 pm
From: torquemada

On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 13:00:38 -0600
Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Ask John McCain. HE said

--
http://hindutva.org/quran.html

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TOPIC: Liberals Smarter Than Conservatives
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/30a39cd522bcf038?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 7 2010 12:38 pm
From: grey_ghost471-newsgroups@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost)

"RogerN" <regor@midwest.net> wrote in news:H-
WdnS18QrSeeA_WnZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d@earthlink.com:

> For one thing, I'm not all that anti-abortion. It is mostly the Liberals
> that believe in abortion and I have trouble believing liberals shouldn't
> have been aborted.

Hmm, maybe I should grow and change my beliefs, too. I can think that abortion
is OK but only for grown liberals who want to abort preborn humans.

--
God, guns and guts made America great.

And Janet Napolitano nervous.

Which should tell you all you need to know about Democrats. How can one
restore America to greatness if greatness makes you uncomfortable?

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TOPIC: Fire the lazy bastards
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/96ee8cae9e4eac6b?hl=en
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 7 2010 12:41 pm
From: Joseph Gwinn

In article <Js6dna-46rQMlQnWnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
cavelamb <cavelamb@earthlink.net> wrote:

> So...
>
> Our electric company installed "Smart Meters" a couple of month ago.

What do they claim to be smart about the smart meters?

Where are you?

> Our electric bills instantly doubled (really).
> Last month was over $500.

The going in assumption would be that the new meters are wrong, and it would be
the utility's job to rebut this.

> I can't imagine what would happen to anyone with a mill of lathe at home!
>
> Anybody else in this situation?

Machine tools of RCM size do not draw anything like what an electric stove
and/or water heater draws.

Joe Gwinn

== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 7 2010 1:04 pm
From: cavelamb

Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> In article <Js6dna-46rQMlQnWnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
> cavelamb <cavelamb@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> So...
>>
>> Our electric company installed "Smart Meters" a couple of month ago.
>
> What do they claim to be smart about the smart meters?
>
> Where are you?
>
>
>> Our electric bills instantly doubled (really).
>> Last month was over $500.
>
> The going in assumption would be that the new meters are wrong, and it would be
> the utility's job to rebut this.
>
>
>> I can't imagine what would happen to anyone with a mill of lathe at home!
>>
>> Anybody else in this situation?
>
> Machine tools of RCM size do not draw anything like what an electric stove
> and/or water heater draws.
>
>
> Joe Gwinn

There is a class action suit over this mess in Dallas right now.
I'm in a small town north of there.

Are you sure about that, Joe.
I thought most of them were 220 to start with and pulled signifiant
power running.

Richard Lamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/

== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 7 2010 1:18 pm
From: "Harold & Susan Vordos"

"cavelamb" <cavelamb@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:p82dnWa1aOZpiQnWnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
snip->
> Are you sure about that, Joe.
> I thought most of them were 220 to start with and pulled signifiant
> power running.

You can safely assume that a horsepower equals only 746 watts. About half
what a small electric heater consumes.

Harold

== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 7 2010 1:37 pm
From: RoyJ

Not really. Under full load, a typical RCM motor will pull 1500 watts
+/- But the only motors that pull that kind of power CONTINUOUSLY are
pumps and compressors. Table saw, drill press, mill, etc etc draw a lot
of power but the high loads are short and the use is intermittent.

In contrast, an electric dryer would pull 5kw for the entire dry cycle
and an A/c unit a similar amount for all the time the compressor is
running.

On 3/7/2010 3:18 PM, Harold & Susan Vordos wrote:
>
> "cavelamb" <cavelamb@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:p82dnWa1aOZpiQnWnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> snip->
>> Are you sure about that, Joe.
>> I thought most of them were 220 to start with and pulled signifiant
>> power running.
>
> You can safely assume that a horsepower equals only 746 watts. About
> half what a small electric heater consumes.
>
> Harold

== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 7 2010 1:38 pm
From: Joseph Gwinn

In article <VKUkn.94$Sp1.25@newsreading01.news.tds.net>,
"Harold & Susan Vordos" <vordos@tds.net> wrote:

> "cavelamb" <cavelamb@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:p82dnWa1aOZpiQnWnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
> > Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> snip->
> > Are you sure about that, Joe.
> > I thought most of them were 220 to start with and pulled signifiant
> > power running.
>
> You can safely assume that a horsepower equals only 746 watts. About half
> what a small electric heater consumes.

While running, and water heaters run more hours a day than a lathe or mill, and
don't draw anything like nameplate rating unless grunting.

Water heaters and stoves are also 220.

Joe Gwinn

== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 7 2010 1:41 pm
From: RoyJ

Make that "typical 1 HP" motor would draw 1500 watts.

On 3/7/2010 3:37 PM, RoyJ wrote:
> Not really. Under full load, a typical RCM motor will pull 1500 watts
> +/- But the only motors that pull that kind of power CONTINUOUSLY are
> pumps and compressors. Table saw, drill press, mill, etc etc draw a lot
> of power but the high loads are short and the use is intermittent.
>
> In contrast, an electric dryer would pull 5kw for the entire dry cycle
> and an A/c unit a similar amount for all the time the compressor is
> running.
>
> On 3/7/2010 3:18 PM, Harold & Susan Vordos wrote:
>>
>> "cavelamb" <cavelamb@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:p82dnWa1aOZpiQnWnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>> snip->
>>> Are you sure about that, Joe.
>>> I thought most of them were 220 to start with and pulled signifiant
>>> power running.
>>
>> You can safely assume that a horsepower equals only 746 watts. About
>> half what a small electric heater consumes.
>>
>> Harold

== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 7 2010 1:49 pm
From: "Steve B"

"cavelamb" <cavelamb@earthlink.net> wrote

> Our electric company installed "Smart Meters" a couple of month ago.
>
> Our electric bills instantly doubled (really).
> Last month was over $500.
> I can't imagine what would happen to anyone with a mill of lathe at home!
>
> Anybody else in this situation?

> Richard Lamb

We took two of those "smart" thermostats off our rentals because everyone
was having the things run 27/7, and the bills dropped by half or more. On,
off, temp setting. $20 per.

Steve

== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 7 2010 1:50 pm
From: "Steve B"

"Joseph Gwinn" <joegwinn@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:joegwinn-406672.16383507032010@news.giganews.com...
> In article <VKUkn.94$Sp1.25@newsreading01.news.tds.net>,
> "Harold & Susan Vordos" <vordos@tds.net> wrote:
>
>> "cavelamb" <cavelamb@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:p82dnWa1aOZpiQnWnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>> > Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>> snip->
>> > Are you sure about that, Joe.
>> > I thought most of them were 220 to start with and pulled signifiant
>> > power running.
>>
>> You can safely assume that a horsepower equals only 746 watts. About
>> half
>> what a small electric heater consumes.
>
> While running, and water heaters run more hours a day than a lathe or
> mill, and
> don't draw anything like nameplate rating unless grunting.
>
> Water heaters and stoves are also 220.
>
> Joe Gwinn

How nice. Even though thread drift has already occurred, it's intelligent
conversation related to machinery.

Steve

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TOPIC: RV-8 airplane
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/39712807565a6d80?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 7 2010 12:47 pm
From: "Robert Swinney"

Sorry Karl,

I know it is a hard thing to do.

Bob Swinney
"Karl Townsend" <karltownsend.NOT@embarqmail.com> wrote in message
news:4b93ce2f$0$77556$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.octanews.com...
Sadly, my father is putting up for sale the project of his life. Its an RV-8
homebuilt airplane. About fifteen years ago, I visited my dad and seen a
pile of AL sheeting and extruded AL support stock for ribs etc. I spent two
days with him fabricating one side of the vertical fin on the tail. I
thought, "there ain't no way". Well, only 6000 logged hours of work later,
it flew. He went on to outfit it with every conceivable electronic
navigation device for full IFR rating.

Here's a couples links. Kinda shows what's involved.
http://www.rv8.ch/
http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/rv-8int.htm

If you're in the market for a meticulously home built aircraft, this is one
hell-of-a deal. Here's the specs:

710- CT ASKING
PRICE---$90,000

SPECIAL AIRWOTTHINESS CERTIFICATE ------------ 09/ 13/ 00
LYCOMING ENGINE- 0-360 A1A 180 HP. ENGINE HAS 500 HOURS AS OF 2/22/10

414 HRS. INSTALLED UNISON SLICK AIRCRAFT MAGS.

OIL AND FILTER HAS BEEN CHANGED EACH 25 HRS. WITH PHILLIPS 20 W-50 OIL AND
12 OZ. AV BLEND

PLANE HAS NEAR NEW MICHELIN TIRES

I CRUISE AT 150 KNTS

HOSES

NEW FLEXIBLE IN 2009

OIL, GASOLINE, INSTRUMENT LINES

OIL COOLER, FUEL PUMP, AND CARBURATOR

RADIOS
GMA 340 AUDIO PANEL

GNS 430 GPS

GTX 327 TRANSPONDER

MX 20 MFD

GI 106 NAV. INDICATOR

ALTITUDE HOLD AUTO PILOT

CARUS 3000 V. STERILIZER

STEC C 1261-17-14 PITCH COMPUTER

STEC 0107-5 PS PITCH SERVO

STEC 0111 TRANSDUCER

GARMIN 3-4-56 GPS ANTENNA

CI-122 COMM. ANTENNA

IMC INSTRUMENTS

3 1/8" ATTITUDE INDICATOR / ELECTRIC

3 1/8" GYRO COMPASS/ ELECTRIC

3 1/8" TURN AND BANK INDICATOR / ELECTRIC

2 �" VERTICAL SPEED INDICATOR

SENSENICH AIRCRAFT PROPELLER

PROPELLER MODEL- 72M859-1-83

PROPELLER SERIAL NUMBER - 32942

Pics can be emailed if you're interested.

Karl

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 7 2010 1:22 pm
From: Tim Wescott

Karl Townsend wrote:

> Sadly, my father is putting up for sale the project of his life. Its an RV-8
> homebuilt airplane. About fifteen years ago, I visited my dad and seen a
> pile of AL sheeting and extruded AL support stock for ribs etc. I spent two
> days with him fabricating one side of the vertical fin on the tail. I
> thought, "there ain't no way". Well, only 6000 logged hours of work later,
> it flew. He went on to outfit it with every conceivable electronic
> navigation device for full IFR rating.
>
> Here's a couples links. Kinda shows what's involved.
> http://www.rv8.ch/
> http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/rv-8int.htm

-- snip --

I visited a friend of mine who's the engineering manager for an aircraft
sheet metal company at Aurora airport (now _there's_ metalworking! They
repair aircraft and make parts for the Sikorsky S-64, which Sikorsky no
longer supports. They've been making sheet metal and structural parts
for years; they're just about to get some of the flying surfaces ATC'd
-- so they're doing some Really Serious work there. And it's a _little
place_).

You have to drive right by Van's on the way in, so I stopped by to see
if I could cadge a tour, or at least a peek at the production floor. I
couldn't, but the receptionist did inflict me on one of their sales guys
and him on me. We were obviously from different planets -- he couldn't
imagine anyone wanting to build model airplanes when they could just as
well build full scale, while any time I want to fly full scale I
contemplate how often I crash models and the urge passes.

They do cool stuff there, though.

--
Tim Wescott
Control system and signal processing consulting
www.wescottdesign.com

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TOPIC: free start/ run capacitors
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 7 2010 12:49 pm
From: Ignoramus10008

On 2010-03-07, Larry Jaques <ljaques@diversify.invalid> wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 21:59:44 -0600, the infamous Ignoramus26053
><ignoramus26053@NOSPAM.26053.invalid> scrawled the following:
>
>>On 2010-03-07, GeoLane at PTD dot NET <GeoLane> wrote:
>>> They were still available after 3:30 Saturday afternoon. People had
>>> called but didn't come over to pick them up at least so far. I
>>> inquired whether I could send him money to put a bunch in a flat rate
>>> box and send them to me, but he didn't want to be bothered.
>>
>>Not to generalize, but I find people who watch free pickup ads to be
>>very flaky, stupid, and just incapable of normal human function. As
>>any generalization, there are exceptions, but the proportion of
>>unreliable people exceeds all bounds. It is understandable from the
>>economics standpoint.
>>
>>A case in point.
>>
>>I advertised free pallets in the morning today.
>>
>>One woman called and said that she will pick them up.
>>
>>She came in a minivan with a husband.
>>
>>She looked at the pallets, and said, GET THIS: that she needed boards
>>for her "art paintings" and that these pallets are "too dirty to be
>>painted".
>>
>>WTF??? ??????????????? *&^&*%&*%^!!!
>
> Yeah, there are some real weirdos out there.

You put it very mildly

>
>>I was quite upset by this pallet board art lunacy, and just started
>>cutting up and burning those m-f-ing pallets in the firepit. My kids
>>love playing with fire, under my supervision, so we all had a good
>>time.
>>
>>So I burned three pallets out of five. Then a guy calls me at 6pm and
>>says that he wants the remaining pallets. Said he will stop by "very
>>soon" as he is in a neighboring town.
>>
>>It is 4 hours later and there is no trace of him.
>>
>>It is a very typical experience with "freecycle" and "free section of
>>craigslist" people.
>
> That has been my experience with these folks, too. You'd think that
> if it's free, they'd jump at the chance and come right away.

My theory is this: they do jump on this. And then 5 minutes later they
forget all about it.

We are talking about people who want to pick up others trash and have
no money to begin with. Pretty much most people like that are complete
basket cases.

Did I have completely well adjusted, reilable people pick up stuff
advertised in free sections? Yes. Were those the majority? Not
really. Most were weirdos or flakes of one sort or another.

> Now I put the stuff out on the driveway with the person's name on it
> and go about my business. It's usually gone within 3 days of their
> saying "I'll be right over."

I put out 400 lbs of ferrous scrap on my curb yesterday, it was gone
in 1.5 hours.

> Far too many people just don't have any integrity any more.

You know, it is not like they defrauded me or anything. I would not
use word "integrity" in this context.

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TOPIC: More pix of this Series II
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/31636df86429c253?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 7 2010 12:50 pm
From: Ignoramus10008

On 2010-03-07, Gunner Asch <gunnerasch@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 13:06:18 -0600, Ignoramus10008
><ignoramus10008@NOSPAM.10008.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On 2010-03-07, Gunner Asch <gunnerasch@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Be aware that given the amount of 'screen burn" showing on the
>>> monitor..you may have to change it before too long.
>>
>>According to the seller, the monitor is already dead.
>>
>>My plan, as of now, is to junk the whole control and relpace it with a
>>PC running EMC software. I already have the PC all set up, which is
>>obviously the easy part.
>>
>>i
>
> Excellent!!

Thanks. Hopefully the mill will be at my house is 2-3 weeks. It is at
my friend's warehouse right now.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 7 2010 1:52 pm
From: Wes

Ignoramus10008 <ignoramus10008@NOSPAM.10008.invalid> wrote:

>Thanks. Hopefully the mill will be at my house is 2-3 weeks. It is at
>my friend's warehouse right now.

Is that a heated warehouse? Reason I ask is about this time of year the snow melts and
cold metal condenses a lot of water out of the air which causes rust.

Wes

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TOPIC: Failin' Palin fails to pay taxes on two houses she owns..........LOL!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/af53d8ce4d7352ca?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 7 2010 12:59 pm
From: "Fred B. Brown"

<.... tHe_PC_JelLlLy BeAn!! .! !!! .> wrote in message
news:3gcnoq.766.19.1@news.alt.net...
> ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Records show that Sarah Palin has not paid any
> property taxes on cabins that have been built on two backcountry plots
> partially owned by the former Alaska governor.
>
> It's unclear how long ago the structures were built, but records show that
> there are no tax assessments for the buildings. Property taxes were only
> paid on the land - and not the structures themselves.
>
> The issue has attracted the attention of local tax officials who conducted
> a scheduled aerial survey of the property on Thursday.
>
> Palin's attorney, Thomas Van Flein, says it is not the responsibility of
> property owners to report structures that go up on their land. But local
> assessor Dave Dunivan says owners are required by state law to report any
> omissions or errors in their tax assessments.
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/04/palin-did-not-pay-taxes-o_n_450344.html

Old news. Posted months ago.
In this state and many others if the building is not anchored to the ground
with a foundation or built on a slab it's not taxable. Around here most
homes
have separate storage buildings simply sitting on cement blocks.

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TOPIC: Alternatives to LPS-2
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/c986024af47a68d0?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 7 2010 1:06 pm
From: nobody@nowhere.org

On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 18:02:54 -0800 (PST), stans4@prolynx.com wrote:

>On Mar 2, 6:17�pm, "Michael Koblic" <mkob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "Ignoramus11220" <ignoramus11...@NOSPAM.11220.invalid> wrote in message
>>
>> news:h8ednTh9gYzscBbWnZ2dnUVZ_ridnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>
>> > LPS-2 is a great rust preventative, because it is light oil, sprays
>> > nicely, and does not dry or harden over time. It also creeps and
>> > penetrates well, so if, say, I spray it on top of a pile of metal
>> > things, it will get to all the pieces in time.
>>
>> > The only minus of it is that it is expensive.
>>
>> > Does anyone know of a cheaper alternative that can be sprayed and does
>> > not dry out.
>>
>> > Thanks
>>
>> You might be interested in a trial I did:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/27683124@N07/sets/72157623384305382/
>>
>> It is nothing original or definitive, I just wanted to know how things
>> behaved in my hands. Also I did not consider prices but these are easy to
>> find out.
>>
>> In a nutshell: Nothing beat LPS3.
>>
>> I was puzzled about the behaviour of WD40.
>>
>> --
>> Michael Koblic,
>> Campbell River, BC
>
>I'm not puzzled about WD40. Despite what folks say, it's good for one
>thing, displacing water, that's what it was designed for. The stuff
>is basically a light petroleum fraction with other crap dissolved that
>will evaporate leaving the other crap coating the surface and it's NOT
>a lubricant or rust-preventative. So if you try using it on a squeaky
>hinge, the squeak comes back, sometimes worse. Performance on rusty
>stuff is no better than using kerosene. LPS 1 is a far better
>penetrant and the coating it leaves IS a lubricant. I use it on
>padlock innards, usually good for several years in fully exposed
>locks. Keeps the disc locks from bending or busting keys.
>
>There's one thing better than LPS 3, but it's not made anymore. LPS
>100 was a white grease that was supposedly good for a whole year under
>sea water. Used to use it on antenna rotator bearings, usually lasted
>longer than the attached antennas.
>
>Stan

Give that man a ceegar! WD40's most impressive feature is it's
marketing dept.

Newb

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 7 2010 1:48 pm
From: Bob Engelhardt

Ignoramus26053 wrote:
> I found another penetrating lubricant called PB-50 ...
>
> However, this PB-50 does not disperse widely, it shoots a jet of it.
>
> So, there is no good alternative to LPS-2.
...

Geez - this thread has been about LPS-*2*, but I've been thinking
LPS-*3* (although LPS-3 has snuck in).

Anyhow, LPS-2 & PB-50 are primarily lubricants, that rust protect too,
according to their manufacturers.

LPS-3 is primarily a rust preventer. Blaster has a competitive product
(I think) called Corrosion Stop
http://www.pbblaster.com/Corrosion_Stop.html
Has anybody used this? Like PB-50, it is much cheaper than the LPS version.

Bob

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TOPIC: Warning, metal content
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/71d26841c9dc7902?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 7 2010 1:32 pm
From: "Steve B"

Some nice gates, and a caliche buster, big boy style.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/deserttraveler/

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TOPIC: Chavez mocks Clinton as "blond Condoleezza"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/6fb81ee24df98281?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 7 2010 1:54 pm
From: Jon Anderson

Anyone else notice Chavez bears a striking resemblance to Mr. Potatohead?

Jon

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TOPIC: OT - Bumped up RAM
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/ae27057ce4e14dcf?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 7 2010 1:51 pm
From: "Steve B"

I switched from IE7 to 8 recently. Computer was slow. Bumped up RAM to 2
GB, and hooey, what a difference. You might look at yours and consider this
inexpensive easy fix.

Steve

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TOPIC: Dowel pin replacement
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/d13418d67d99a7aa?hl=en
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Date: Sun, Mar 7 2010 1:59 pm
From: Wes

"Buerste" <buerste@wowway.com> wrote:

>For some strange reason, there is a bit of lead-drag on the wire from the
>tempering operation and it bonds to carbide but not to the dowel pins. I
>like the idea of HSS, I'll look into it. No, I don't have a couple of thou,
>my design isn't great. I do have a new mechanism in process that will use
>hardened gears to feed and the preliminary tests are very promising.

Did you ever try HSS? How did it work?

Wes

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TOPIC: Socialist Palin works for Hugo Chavez
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/f61df2ea3be7edbb?hl=en
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Date: Sun, Mar 7 2010 1:59 pm
From: Winston_Smith

Cliff <Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:

>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/akmuckraker/the-palins-socialist-snow_b_488015.html
>....
>But, a closer look shows us that the Palins seem to be padding their pockets
>from a surprising source.
>
>It turns out that Mystik Lubricants is owned by... wait for it ... Citgo. Yes,
>that same Citgo that's owned by Venezuela. Socialist Venezuela. Socialist, Hugo
>Chavez lovin', Venezuela.

Thanks for proving that Palin and the whole NeoCon crowd are in fact
ultra-liberals. I've been saying that for nine years. But somehow,
little Cliffie wants to tell us she is a conservative.

Two parties, not a dimes worth of difference.

<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2008/02/01/GR2008020102389.html?referrer=emaillinkpg>
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