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* Ping Richard! - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/1b38c3b536a8c4aa?hl=en
* Taking over Fannie & Freddie was part of the Democrats clean up operation
for their own mess - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/27850e46baa11657?hl=en
* The Fact Is, The Rich Don't Have Enough Money - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/1b1dc40682737d00?hl=en
* "Banks are public utilities" - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/8aebf6fb3374a24c?hl=en
* Famous presidential lies - 19 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/3cb2a4cd7e7b85f8?hl=en

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TOPIC: Ping Richard!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/1b38c3b536a8c4aa?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 18 2014 3:26 pm
From: Gunner Asch


On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:17:04 -0600, Richard <cavelamb@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>Forgive me if I don't get too excited about a cheap boat
>1200 miles away.
>

What..its a Capri 22, its in your price range and is it actually 1200
miles away? Is that how far Florida is from your place in Texas?

In land or water miles?

Or are you now claiming that Capris are "cheap boats" despite asking
me to find you one "within range"?

As Ive stated..they made 1500 of them give or take ..and they arent as
easy to find as zits on the neighbor kids face. LEAST of all if you
live "Deep in the heart of Texas"

So be it. You lost the one in Galvastin because of your temper
tantrums..I wont bother looking for them for you. So far Ive found
you (4) of them and each and every time you turned up your nose
because of some horseshit reason.

Looks like you are all talk and no walk.

Or you are hoping the Used Sailboat Fairy will deliver one to your
curb with a big pink bow on it.

Sorry Rich...nice fantasy..but..not so much "real world"

http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=88791

"Go for it. After 4 or 5 sails, it'll make a nice lawn ornament.

The rating is simply indicative of the lack of speed the Capri 22
shows. the design did not transfer well form the 25-a much faster,
better boat! You will get crushed by Tuna 20s, J-24s and Ranger 26s.
About the only boat you will beat is:

Attached File sailing_chair.jpg 15.19K 9 downloads
or
Attached File Hot_yacht.jpg 20.98K 17 downloads
or
Attached File Shitbox_3.jpg 107.41K 32 downloads

Look for a Capri 25. OH!! There's a Fun 23 (Ranger) in SA
Classifieds...a much better choice, better sailing and it's faster.
Lowball them, the boat market is softer than Chaney's pecker. "



Gunner, who posted a bunch more this morning

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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 18 2014 3:53 pm
From: Richard


On 1/18/2014 5:26 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:17:04 -0600, Richard<cavelamb@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Forgive me if I don't get too excited about a cheap boat
>> 1200 miles away.
>>
>
> What..its a Capri 22, its in your price range and is it actually 1200
> miles away? Is that how far Florida is from your place in Texas?

No, it's in YOUR price range.
Yes, it's that far from Dallas to Sarasota.

>
> In land or water miles?

Statuate
>
> Or are you now claiming that Capris are "cheap boats" despite asking
> me to find you one "within range"?
>
> As Ive stated..they made 1500 of them give or take ..and they arent as
> easy to find as zits on the neighbor kids face. LEAST of all if you
> live "Deep in the heart of Texas"
>
> So be it. You lost the one in Galvastin because of your temper
> tantrums..I wont bother looking for them for you. So far Ive found
> you (4) of them and each and every time you turned up your nose
> because of some horseshit reason.
>
> Looks like you are all talk and no walk.
>
> Or you are hoping the Used Sailboat Fairy will deliver one to your
> curb with a big pink bow on it.
>
> Sorry Rich...nice fantasy..but..not so much "real world"
>
> http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=88791
>
> "Go for it. After 4 or 5 sails, it'll make a nice lawn ornament.
>
> The rating is simply indicative of the lack of speed the Capri 22
> shows. the design did not transfer well form the 25-a much faster,
> better boat! You will get crushed by Tuna 20s, J-24s and Ranger 26s.
> About the only boat you will beat is:
>
> Attached File sailing_chair.jpg 15.19K 9 downloads
> or
> Attached File Hot_yacht.jpg 20.98K 17 downloads
> or
> Attached File Shitbox_3.jpg 107.41K 32 downloads
>
> Look for a Capri 25. OH!! There's a Fun 23 (Ranger) in SA
> Classifieds...a much better choice, better sailing and it's faster.
> Lowball them, the boat market is softer than Chaney's pecker. "
>
>
>
> Gunner, who posted a bunch more this morning
>
> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/freesailboats/conversations/messages
>
>
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> is either stupid or a perpetual societal leech"
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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 18 2014 3:54 pm
From: Richard



>
> So be it. You lost the one in Galvastin because of your temper
> tantrums..I wont bother looking for them for you. So far Ive found
> you (4) of them and each and every time you turned up your nose
> because of some horseshit reason.
>

Thank you.





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TOPIC: Taking over Fannie & Freddie was part of the Democrats clean up
operation for their own mess
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/27850e46baa11657?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 18 2014 3:31 pm
From: Gunner Asch


On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 11:52:51 -0800, Michael Bachmann
<michael.bachmann1978@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>The bail out of corporations began under President Bush and President
>Obama continued it. The bail out has helped stabilized the US economy and
>kept the rate of employment stable.
>

Stable? ROFLMAO!!!!!! We are going into another deeping depression
and the stockmarket is about to implode in the next 4 months

Unemployment still is over 22% and its not getting any lower despite
the attempts of the Democrat controlled MSM to say..say it is.

Gunner

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TOPIC: The Fact Is, The Rich Don't Have Enough Money
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/1b1dc40682737d00?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 18 2014 3:34 pm
From: Rudy Canoza


On 1/18/2014 10:56 AM, Filthy McNasty wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:39:14 -0800, Rudy Canoza <LaLaLaLaLaLa@philhendrie.con>
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/18/2014 9:03 AM, Filthy McNasty wrote:
>>> On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 09:19:11 -0800, Rudy Canoza <LaLaLaLaLaLa@philhendrie.con>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/17/2014 9:01 AM, a425couple wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Grayling High School" <tracey12_12_12@yahoo.com> wrote in message...
>>>>>> Re: The Fact Is, The Rich Don't Have Enough Money They never have.
>>>>>> That's why we need to pay the taxes while they pay nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are silly and WRONG. The "rich" pay the majority of income taxes
>>>>> paid, as it is.
>>>>>
>>>>> "The top 5 percent earned 33.78 percent of income and paid 59.07 percent
>>>>> of taxes,
>>>>> and the top 10 percent earned 45.17 percent of income and paid 70.62
>>>>> percent of taxes."
>>>>>
>>>>> http://taxfoundation.org/article/what-do-americans-really-pay-income-taxes
>>>
>> Exactly right.
>
> I suck dog dicks too. Chihuahuas, are my favorite.

Keep that out of here, rectum-sweat. No one cares what kind of dicks
you like to suck.





== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 18 2014 3:40 pm
From: Rudy Canoza


On 1/18/2014 1:18 PM, Baxter wrote:
> Al Czervik <Caddyshack.Al@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:lbejhg$h3h$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 1/18/2014 7:38 AM, Baxter wrote:
>>> "2,304 murdered in Obama's organized communities"
>>> :
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 17:14:33 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
>>>> <lbax_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yet some how that top 5% owns 2/3 of all the stock while the bottom
>>>>> 50% own ~ 0.5%
>>>>>
>>>>> Some how the top 5% owns nearly 80% of the wealth while the bottom
>>>>> 80% owns just 7% (which includes their homes.)
>>>>
>>>> Because, while you were being a jealous li'l petulant prick,
>>>
>>> You rightards can never make up your minds - first you want people to
>>> be jealous of the rich so they will work harder, then you castigate
>>> them for it.
>>>
>>>
>>>> they were
>>>> earning it.
>>>
>>> Show where Paris Hilton earned even a portion of her wealth.
>>
>> You are so pissed off jealous.
>>
> IOW,

In other words, because she didn't hold a gun to anyone's head to
acquire her wealth, it is presumed she earned it ethically.

Show that she didn't. Come on, Bugster - show how she earned it
unethically.

Here's a hint for you: if Bill Gates were to approach me and say,
"You're a great guy who has worked hard and always done the right thing.
I'm going to give you $500 million, net of gift taxes. Here's your
check", then I earned that money honestly and ethically. No question
about it. And of course, Gates earned his honestly and ethically, too -
not in dispute - so there is no ethical issue of me obtaining "tainted"
money.

Fact: large concentrations of wealth are not unethical /per se/.
That's just a fact. You must accommodate yourself to that fact.






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TOPIC: "Banks are public utilities"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/8aebf6fb3374a24c?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 18 2014 3:36 pm
From: Rudy Canoza


On 1/18/2014 11:45 AM, Jeff M wrote:
> On 1/18/2014 12:44 PM, jim, front boy for a left-wing disinformation collective - that is, a hired liar - lied:
>>
>> Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>
>>> I know more about everything than you.
>>
>> You are my better in every way.
>
> Indeed.

Yes.

Banks are not public utilities. That's settled.





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TOPIC: Famous presidential lies
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/3cb2a4cd7e7b85f8?hl=en
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== 1 of 19 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 18 2014 3:41 pm
From: Rudy Canoza


On 1/18/2014 11:52 AM, Winston_Smith wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 08:56:21 -0800, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> On 1/16/2014 7:11 PM, Winston_Smith wrote:
>>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 11:52:43 -0600, Jeff M wrote:
>>>> On 1/16/2014 11:48 AM, Winston_Smith wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 10:00:15 -0700, "Ray Keller" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> _____(add you own favorite
>>>>>> here)_____________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> "Trust me." - Every politician ever.
>>>
>>> Well, if we are off just presidents
>>>
>>> Hounds love to be picked up by the ears.
>>> Johnson
>>
>> Not a quote.
>>
>>
>>> Dogs love to travel strapped to the roof of cars.
>>> Romney
>>
>> Not a quote.
>
> The subject of the thread is lies, not quotes.

See below.


>> Even if they were quotes, they aren't necessarily lies. Johnson and
>> Romney might well have believed them to be true, so they wouldn't be
>> lying if they stated their beliefs.
>
> Hee, hee, yeah, OK.

Gotcha - again.





== 2 of 19 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 18 2014 3:45 pm
From: Winston_Smith


<LaLaLaLaLaLaboy@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>On 1/18/2014 11:52 AM, Winston_Smith wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 08:56:21 -0800, Rudy Canoza wrote:

>>> Not a quote.
>>
>> The subject of the thread is lies, not quotes.
>
>See below.

Where?
>
>>> Even if they were quotes, they aren't necessarily lies. Johnson and
>>> Romney might well have believed them to be true, so they wouldn't be
>>> lying if they stated their beliefs.
>>
>> Hee, hee, yeah, OK.
>
>Gotcha - again.

Thanks for admiting you are a troll and not interested in serious
discussion.

By the by, HOW did you "get me"? And what's "below"?




== 3 of 19 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 18 2014 3:46 pm
From: Rudy Canoza


On 1/18/2014 11:53 AM, Winston_Smith wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 08:57:08 -0800, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> On 1/17/2014 11:42 PM, Winston_Smith wrote:
>>> On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 21:07:25 -0800, Rudy Canoza
>>> <LaLaLaLaLaLa@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/17/2014 5:38 PM, Winston_Smith wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 07:52:03 -0800, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/16/2014 10:53 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/16/2014 11:10 PM, Winston_Smith wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> FWIW, I too remember Carter saying it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carter didn't say what you quoted him as saying. He might have said
>>>>>> something to that effect, but he didn't say *EITHER* statement that
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> cited as quotes. You made them up. You've already *admitted* to
>>>>>> having
>>>>>> faked the quote about Cuban troops. You're an admitted forger.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> winnie does *NOT* remember Carter saying what you quoted him as
>>>>>> saying,
>>>>>> because Carter never said that. You and winnie are fuckwits.
>>>>>
>>>>> True to your form. Your only tactic is to deny something was said or
>>>>> happened. That puts you in a lovely spot as no one can ask you to
>>>>> prove a negative (your statement). You get away with maligning a
>>>>> poster, come off like an expert, and can't be challenged.
>>>>
>>>> Carter didn't say what that fuckwit claimed he said. It's that simple -
>>>> the "quote" is fake.
>>>
>>> Yet another denial. That's all you do. Deny. Repeat as necessary.
>>
>> He didn't say what the fuckwit quoted him as saying.
>>
>> You clearly don't understand what a quote is, either.
>
> The subject of the thread is lies, not quotes.

Change of subject noted and scorned.

Your pal the fuckwit, steve, gave a *quote* as an instance of a
presidential lie. And all this time, you've been pissing your little
Depends over the issue of whether or not a president said those words,
and who has the burden of proof. I realize now that you are conceding
you lost on that issue, and so that's why you changed the subject. And
you lost *again*, thanks to your having sided with that fuckwit, steve.

You're not very good at this. You know that, don't you? I think you do.





== 4 of 19 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 18 2014 3:52 pm
From: Rudy Canoza


On 1/18/2014 12:05 PM, Winston_Smith wrote:
> Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> On 1/17/2014 11:47 PM, Winston_Smith wrote:
>>> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLaLaLaLa@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sure did.
>>
>> You fuckwit.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> On 1/17/2014 5:41 PM, Winston_Smith wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 16:54:06 -0800, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/17/2014 3:37 PM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/17/2014 3:33 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 1/17/2014 12:56 PM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I nominate this as the most egregious lie, the cruelest, the one
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> has damaged the US the most:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. No president said it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Denial
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2. It's not a lie.
>>>>>
>>>>> Denial
>>>>
>>>> Yes, because no president said it. Feel free to show otherwise. You
>>>> can't, and you know you can't. No one can - no president said it.
>>>
>>> Oh, boy. I was waiting for this. I expected it sooner. You set things
>>> up so YOU don't have to support a thing. If you were asked you would
>>> say you can't prove a negative.
>>
>> But one *can* prove a positive...*IF* it is true.
>>
>>
>>> And that's all you do - deny what you don't like.
>>
>> It has nothing to do with "liking" it or not. I know that no president
>> ever publicly said what the fuckwit, Pedro, is claiming.
>>
>>
>>> You can't ever be called. Nice tactic.
>>
>> You idiot. Your buddy, the fuckwit Pedro, made a positive assertion:
>>
>> A president said, 'Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.'
>>
>> The burden of proof is *entirely* on Pedro, the fuckwit. *I* don't have
>> to show that no president said it; *HE* has to demonstrate that some
>> president *DID* say it.
>>
>> I assert that no president said it. All he has to do to prove me wrong
>> is to show, with unambiguous and documented evidence, that at least one
>> president *DID* say it.
>>
>> He can't...because no president said it.
>>
>>
>>>> Because the "US government" [sic] never said such a thing. Feel free to
>>>> show otherwise <chortle>. You know you can't.
>>>
>>> Chortling over your clever little trap, eh?
>>
>> What trap?
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> Look, *cunt*:
>>>
>>> Ah yes, the classic liberal in a corner
>>
>> I'm not a liberal; at least, I'm not a liberal in the contemporary
>> illiberal sense of the word. I'm not what you stupidly and wrongly
>> conceive to be a liberal.
>
> More in the numb-nuts troll sort of sense.

I'm not in any sense a contemporary liberal.


>
>> I'm not what you stupidly and wrongly conceive to be a liberal.
>
> How can you possibly know what my conception is?

You reveal it.


>> No. Certitude that you two fuckwits can't support your positive
>> assertions.
>
> I made no positive assertion other than

Liar.


>
>>> Yup. Mom really loves the way you act.
>>
>> Has nothing to do with my deceased mother, you fuckwit.
>
> I'm sorry she is dead.

She was in ill health for a long time. It was her time to go.


>> Come on, bitch - prove your assertion. Give Pedro a helping hand.
>
> 1. Why are you so demeaning of women?

Attempt to change the subject noted and dismissed.


> Who's Pedro?

Your fuckwitted pal - the one who claimed that some president said "Lee
Harvey Oswald acted alone"; the one who put that in quotation marks and
thereby is claiming that some president said those exact words. That's
who Pedro is, you bitch.


> Who's the "bitch"?

You.


> 2. What "assertion"?

Pedro's - the one you're now defending.





== 5 of 19 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 18 2014 3:54 pm
From: Rudy Canoza


On 1/18/2014 12:05 PM, Jeff M wrote:
> On 1/18/2014 1:53 PM, Winston_Smith wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 08:57:08 -0800, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>> On 1/17/2014 11:42 PM, Winston_Smith wrote:
>>
>>>> Yet another denial. That's all you do. Deny. Repeat as necessary.
>>>
>>> He didn't say what the fuckwit quoted him as saying.
>>>
>>> You clearly don't understand what a quote is, either.
>>
>> The subject of the thread is lies, not quotes.
>>
>> I can't wait to see what wiggle you come up with next.
>
> I'm amusingly goofy, utterly ignorant, thoroughly disgusting, completely
> insane, or, more likely, some combination thereof

You're all of those, jeffy m - all of those in addition to being a
disgraced *disbarred* ex-lawyer with a civil disability that prevents
you from practicing law.





== 6 of 19 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 18 2014 3:57 pm
From: Rudy Canoza


On 1/18/2014 3:45 PM, Bitchston_Smith lied:
> On 1/18/2014 3:41 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> On 1/18/2014 11:52 AM, Bitchston_Smith lied:
>>> On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 08:56:21 -0800, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>> On 1/16/2014 7:11 PM, Bitchston_Smith lied:
>>>>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 11:52:43 -0600, Jeff M wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/16/2014 11:48 AM, Bitchston_Smith lied:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 10:00:15 -0700, "Ray Keller" wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _____(add you own favorite
>>>>>>>> here)_____________________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Trust me." - Every politician ever.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, if we are off just presidents
>>>>>
>>>>> Hounds love to be picked up by the ears.
>>>>> Johnson
>>>>
>>>> Not a quote.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Dogs love to travel strapped to the roof of cars.
>>>>> Romney
>>>>
>>>> Not a quote.
>>>
>>> The subject of the thread is lies, not quotes.
>>
>> See below.
>
> Where?

You already saw "where", and commented.


>>
>>>> Even if they were quotes, they aren't necessarily lies. Johnson and
>>>> Romney might well have believed them to be true, so they wouldn't be
>>>> lying if they stated their beliefs.
>>>
>>> Hee, hee, yeah, OK.
>>
>> Gotcha - again.
>
> Thanks for admiting you are a troll and

No. No such admission.

I got you, bitch. I got my hand - I only need one - around your scrawny
scrofulous neck and throttled you.





== 7 of 19 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 18 2014 4:06 pm
From: Jeff M


On 1/18/2014 5:45 PM, Winston_Smith wrote:
[snip]
>> Gotcha - again.
>
> Thanks for admiting you are a troll and not interested in serious
> discussion.

Actually, Plimpton is *incapable* of serious discussion, due to his
quite obvious mental health and personality disorders.

> By the by, HOW did you "get me"? And what's "below"?

He got you only through the irrational delusions that Plimpton
substitutes for reasoned and intelligent cognition, and there's nothing
"below" Plimpton; he's as low as anyone can get. It's typical of him to
claim some sort of victory for himself after he's received a thorough
online thrashing. It may seem to some he's just trying to find cover
for his humiliation and punctured ego, but I think he's just too addled
by alcoholic dementia to even be aware of just how badly, and how
entertainingly, he keeps losing these little tiffs over his nonsensical
spew.




--
�The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in
moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification
for selfishness.� - John Kenneth Galbraith




== 8 of 19 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 18 2014 4:09 pm
From: Winston_Smith


On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 15:57:47 -0800, Rudy Canoza
<LaLaLaLaLaLa@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>On 1/18/2014 3:45 PM, Bitchston_Smith lied:
>> On 1/18/2014 3:41 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:

>>> See below.
>>
>> Where?
>
>You already saw "where", and commented.

Point it out instead of pretending it's real.

>>>>> Even if they were quotes, they aren't necessarily lies. Johnson and
>>>>> Romney might well have believed them to be true, so they wouldn't be
>>>>> lying if they stated their beliefs.
>>>>
>>>> Hee, hee, yeah, OK.
>>>
>>> Gotcha - again.
>>
>> Thanks for admiting you are a troll and
>
>No. No such admission.
>
>I got you, bitch.

Why do you denigrate women so much? Do you hate your mother? Were you
dumped? Are your gay? Perhaps you had a gender change and the
operation went badly.

And just how did you "get me"? Seems you keep ducking that question.

>I got my hand - I only need one - around your scrawny
>scrofulous neck and throttled you.

If you say so but to the rational folks here, it seems it's only in
your (alleged) mind since you refuse to point out how.




== 9 of 19 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 18 2014 4:11 pm
From: Rudy Canoza


On 1/18/2014 4:06 PM, Jeff M wrote:
> On 1/18/2014 5:45 PM, Winston_Smith wrote:
> [snip]
>>> Gotcha - again.
>>
>> Thanks for admiting you are a troll and not interested in serious
>> discussion.
>
> Actually, Canoza *kills* leftists and other morons in serious discussion, due to his

Perspicacity.





== 10 of 19 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 18 2014 4:12 pm
From: Rudy Canoza


On 1/18/2014 4:09 PM, Bitchston_Smith lied:
> On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 15:57:47 -0800, Rudy Canoza
> <LaLaLaLaLaLa@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>> On 1/18/2014 3:45 PM, Bitchston_Smith lied:
>>> On 1/18/2014 3:41 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>> On 1/18/2014 11:52 AM, Bitchston_Smith lied:
>>>>> On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 08:56:21 -0800, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/16/2014 7:11 PM, Bitchston_Smith lied:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 11:52:43 -0600, Jeff M wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 1/16/2014 11:48 AM, Bitchston_Smith lied:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 10:00:15 -0700, "Ray Keller" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _____(add you own favorite
>>>>>>>>>> here)_____________________________________________
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Trust me." - Every politician ever.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, if we are off just presidents
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hounds love to be picked up by the ears.
>>>>>>> Johnson
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not a quote.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dogs love to travel strapped to the roof of cars.
>>>>>>> Romney
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not a quote.
>>>>>
>>>>> The subject of the thread is lies, not quotes.
>>>>
>>>> See below.
>>>
>>> Where?
>>
>> You already saw "where", and commented.
>
> Point it out

I did.


>>>>>> Even if they were quotes, they aren't necessarily lies. Johnson and
>>>>>> Romney might well have believed them to be true, so they wouldn't be
>>>>>> lying if they stated their beliefs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hee, hee, yeah, OK.
>>>>
>>>> Gotcha - again.
>>>
>>> Thanks for admiting you are a troll and
>>
>> No. No such admission.
>>
>> I got you, bitch.
>
> Why do you denigrate women

Invalid complex question - dismissed.

Why do you beat your wife?


> And just how did you "get me"?

See below.



>> I got my hand - I only need one - around your scrawny
>> scrofulous neck and throttled you.
>
> If you say so but

It's so.





== 11 of 19 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 18 2014 4:13 pm
From: Ramon F Herrera


On 1/17/2014 11:14 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> On 1/17/2014 5:54 PM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
>> On 1/17/2014 6:54 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>> "Case Closed", by Gerald Posner - the definitive examination of the
>>> assassination and all the goofy conspiracy theories. One gunman, acting
>>> alone.
>>>
>>
>> How nice.
>
> It is the definitive statement on it.
>
> One gunman, acting alone.
>

We can easily tell that you are from the Evolution Denial side, and the
anti-education crowd.

The better the school, the more Liberal.

-Ramon






== 12 of 19 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 18 2014 4:15 pm
From: Rudy Canoza


On 1/18/2014 4:13 PM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
> On 1/17/2014 11:14 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> On 1/17/2014 5:54 PM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
>>> On 1/17/2014 6:54 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>> "Case Closed", by Gerald Posner - the definitive examination of the
>>>> assassination and all the goofy conspiracy theories. One gunman,
>>>> acting
>>>> alone.
>>>>
>>>
>>> How nice.
>>
>> It is the definitive statement on it.
>>
>> One gunman, acting alone.
>>
>
> We can easily tell that you are from the Evolution Denial side, and the

Your irrational conspiracy beliefs have been shown to be unfounded.





== 13 of 19 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 18 2014 4:16 pm
From: Ramon F Herrera


On 1/17/2014 11:15 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> On 1/17/2014 6:02 PM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
>> On 1/17/2014 6:54 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>> "Case Closed", by Gerald Posner - the definitive examination of the
>>> assassination and all the goofy conspiracy theories. One gunman, acting
>>> alone.
>>
>> If you are going to cite a Lone Nutter author,
>
> Posner's account is the definitive statement. There was one gunman, Lee
> Harvey Oswald, and he acted alone. Case closed.
>

Has that strategy ever worked for you?

You come across as a spoiled brat, who always was told "yes, dear, you
are right! (and pretty)".

What they did to you was very sad.

-Ramon The Educated and Hence Skeptical






== 14 of 19 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 18 2014 4:18 pm
From: Winston_Smith


On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 15:46:16 -0800, Rudy Canoza
<LaLaLaLaLaLa@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>On 1/18/2014 11:53 AM, Winston_Smith wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 08:57:08 -0800, Rudy Canoza wrote:

>>> He didn't say what the fuckwit quoted him as saying.
>>> You clearly don't understand what a quote is, either.
>>
>> The subject of the thread is lies, not quotes.
>
>Change of subject noted and scorned.

Yes. Yours. The subject line says "lies". YOU attempted to change it
to "quotes".

>And all this time, you've been pissing your little
>Depends over the issue of whether or not a president said those words,
>and who has the burden of proof.

No. I merely pointed out that you never contribute anything of
substance to threads. By the simple tactic of only denying.




== 15 of 19 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 18 2014 4:20 pm
From: Winston_Smith


On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 16:12:38 -0800, Rudy Canoza
<LaLaLaLaLaLa@philhendrie.con> wrote:

>I did.

Well then, you will have to clean it up.




== 16 of 19 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 18 2014 4:22 pm
From: Rudy Canoza


On 1/18/2014 4:16 PM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
> On 1/17/2014 11:15 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> On 1/17/2014 6:02 PM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
>>> On 1/17/2014 6:54 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>> "Case Closed", by Gerald Posner - the definitive examination of the
>>>> assassination and all the goofy conspiracy theories. One gunman,
>>>> acting
>>>> alone.
>>>
>>> If you are going to cite a Lone Nutter author,
>>
>> Posner's account is the definitive statement. There was one gunman, Lee
>> Harvey Oswald, and he acted alone. Case closed.
>>
>
> Has that strategy ever worked for you?

Always. Citing the definitive statement always works for me.


> You come across as a spoiled brat, who

You come across as a self-absorbed twat who grossly overestimates his
ability, and who is irrationally prone to belief in nonsensical
conspiracy theories.





== 17 of 19 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 18 2014 4:24 pm
From: Winston_Smith


On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 18:06:19 -0600, Jeff M <NoSpam@NoThanks.org>
wrote:

>On 1/18/2014 5:45 PM, Winston_Smith wrote:
>[snip]
>>> Gotcha - again.
>>
>> Thanks for admiting you are a troll and not interested in serious
>> discussion.
>
>Actually, Plimpton is *incapable* of serious discussion, due to his
>quite obvious mental health and personality disorders.
>
>> By the by, HOW did you "get me"? And what's "below"?
>
>He got you only through the irrational delusions that Plimpton
>substitutes for reasoned and intelligent cognition, and there's nothing
>"below" Plimpton; he's as low as anyone can get. It's typical of him to
>claim some sort of victory for himself after he's received a thorough
>online thrashing. It may seem to some he's just trying to find cover
>for his humiliation and punctured ego, but I think he's just too addled
>by alcoholic dementia to even be aware of just how badly, and how
>entertainingly, he keeps losing these little tiffs over his nonsensical
>spew.

Agreed. His only value, and it's diminishingly small, is
entertainment. It's fun to see how he denies simple reality and then
tries to wiggle out of his manifold errors. Besides, the batteries in
my laser pointer are dead so I can't tease the cats. He's the next
best thing. I'd try printing out his posts and putting them in the
compost barrel but I'm afraid he will poison the garden.




== 18 of 19 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 18 2014 4:26 pm
From: Rudy Canoza


On 1/18/2014 4:18 PM, Bitchston_Smith lied:
> On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 15:46:16 -0800, Rudy Canoza
> <LaLaLaLaLaLa@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>> On 1/18/2014 11:53 AM, Bitchston_Smith lied:
>>> On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 08:57:08 -0800, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>> On 1/17/2014 11:42 PM, Bitchston_Smith lied:
>>>>> On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 21:07:25 -0800, Rudy Canoza
>>>>> <LaLaLaLaLaLa@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/17/2014 5:38 PM, Bitchston_Smith lied:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 07:52:03 -0800, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 1/16/2014 10:53 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 1/16/2014 11:10 PM, Bitchston_Smith lied:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> FWIW, I too remember Carter saying it.

See, Bitchston? Right here: we were talking about quotes. Now
continue on below.


>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Carter didn't say what you quoted him as saying. He might have said
>>>>>>>> something to that effect, but he didn't say *EITHER* statement that
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> cited as quotes. You made them up. You've already *admitted* to
>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>> faked the quote about Cuban troops. You're an admitted forger.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> winnie does *NOT* remember Carter saying what you quoted him as
>>>>>>>> saying,
>>>>>>>> because Carter never said that. You and winnie are fuckwits.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> True to your form. Your only tactic is to deny something was said or
>>>>>>> happened. That puts you in a lovely spot as no one can ask you to
>>>>>>> prove a negative (your statement). You get away with maligning a
>>>>>>> poster, come off like an expert, and can't be challenged.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carter didn't say what that fuckwit claimed he said. It's that
>>>>>> simple -
>>>>>> the "quote" is fake.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet another denial. That's all you do. Deny. Repeat as necessary.
>>>>
>>>> He didn't say what the fuckwit quoted him as saying.
>>>>
>>>> You clearly don't understand what a quote is, either.
>>>
>>> The subject of the thread is lies, not quotes.
>>
>> Change of subject noted and scorned.


>
> Yes. Yours.

No. Yours. Regardless of what the subject line says, you and I were
talking about quotes. I beat your ass on it, and so you suddenly
changed direction and started yammering about lies. Then I beat your
ass on that one, too.


>
>> And all this time, you've been pissing your little
>> Depends over the issue of whether or not a president said those words,
>> and who has the burden of proof.
>
> No.

Yes.


> I merely pointed out

No. You didn't "point out" anything. You bloviated, you pompous old fuck.





== 19 of 19 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 18 2014 4:27 pm
From: Rudy Canoza


On 1/18/2014 4:20 PM, Bitchston_Smith lied:

> On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 16:12:38 -0800, Rudy Canoza
> <LaLaLaLaLaLa@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>> On 1/18/2014 4:09 PM, Bitchston_Smith lied:
>>> On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 15:57:47 -0800, Rudy Canoza
>>> <LaLaLaLaLaLa@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>> On 1/18/2014 3:45 PM, Bitchston_Smith lied:
>>>>> On 1/18/2014 3:41 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/18/2014 11:52 AM, Bitchston_Smith lied:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 08:56:21 -0800, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 1/16/2014 7:11 PM, Bitchston_Smith lied:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 11:52:43 -0600, Jeff M wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/16/2014 11:48 AM, Bitchston_Smith lied:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 10:00:15 -0700, "Ray Keller" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> _____(add you own favorite
>>>>>>>>>>>> here)_____________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Trust me." - Every politician ever.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, if we are off just presidents
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hounds love to be picked up by the ears.
>>>>>>>>> Johnson
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not a quote.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dogs love to travel strapped to the roof of cars.
>>>>>>>>> Romney
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not a quote.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The subject of the thread is lies, not quotes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See below.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where?
>>>>
>>>> You already saw "where", and commented.
>>>
>>> Point it out
>>
>> I did.
>
> Well then,

Well then, read it, Bitchston.





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