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TOPIC: OT, Getting cash fast?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/e7794248f9ff9545?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 15 2010 6:17 am
From: alan200@iinet.net.oz

On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 12:25:21 -0600, "RogerN" <regor@midwest.net>
wrote:

>
>My wife had an auto accident Friday and now needs something to drive to
>work. In short, I should get my income tax money this Friday, I'm wanting
>to get cash now and pay it off this Friday, it will save me $2000 over being
>forced to buy from a dealer for the auto we are wanting. I've found several
>auto's I like at dealers for the $7K-$8K range, I found some I like better
>from individuals for the $5K range (same model, newer, lower miles, $2k
>less). But either way I go about it, having the cash gives me leverage at
>the dealer or the option to buy from a private seller.

Send her to work in a taxi for a couple of days, would cost much
less than $2k and will give you time to find the right car.

alan

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TOPIC: Pictures of sorted metals
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/da705c6c8f6bed6c?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 15 2010 6:25 am
From: Ignoramus12951

On 2010-02-15, John <amdinc@intergrafix.net> wrote:
> I bought out the stockroom of a tool and die shop eight years ago that
> had over 4 tons of marked tool steels. Most of it was Carpenter
> Steel stamped with their special trade names, Badger, Vega,Speedstar,
> Stentor. Solar,#158 and Hampden. I loaded it Carboloy and pallets and
> the riggers moved it along with a bunch of machinery I bought at the
> auction. My back was aching for a week. Most of it was 158 mold steel
> in rounds up to 9 inches and some blocks up to 12 inch square. The rest
> of it was in smaller rectangles and cutoffs. Metal usually goes cheap
> if it is in large lots. The dealers don't want it because it doesn't
> usually come with certifications and it is too much to handle for the
> average home machinist.
>
> I got the whole supply room for 200 bucks including the racks.

Awesome. What did you do with that steel?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 15 2010 8:06 am
From: Mark Rand

On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:50:32 -0600, Ignoramus16496
<ignoramus16496@NOSPAM.16496.invalid> wrote:

>On 2010-02-15, Gerald Miller <grmiller@rogers.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:46:08 -0500, Wes <clutch@lycos.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Mark Rand <randm@internettie.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 23:44:04 -0600, Ignoramus5865
>>>><ignoramus5865@NOSPAM.5865.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>They are somewhat annotated.
>>>>>
>>>>>http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Metals/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You didn't sort the beer into its own pile :-(
>>>>
>>>
>>>Iggy was putting a well understood scale of reference in the picture. :)
>>>
>>>Wes
>> A lot of my job pictures included a pack of cigarettes - drove my
>> immediate supervisor right up the wall, much to the amusement of his
>> supervisor who used to bum smokes from me.
>
>I think that including beer in pictures kind of brightens the mood of
>most people. Beer is usually associated with fun and other pleasant
>things. Plus a bottle of beer looks great if the picture is taken with
>a powerful flash.
>
>In addition, everyone knows how big is a bottle of beer, not so with
>cigarettes any more.
>
>The more politically correct scale item would be a Coke can, but I do
>not like pop and so I choose beer, cans or bottles.
>
>i

Quite right too! ('T'was a wind-up, by the way :)

Regards
Mark Rand(who has over 1000lb of mild steel sections that were given away from
a University store)
RTFM

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TOPIC: Cheater's Notes
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/575dd2a6a3913041?hl=en
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== 1 of 11 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 15 2010 6:33 am
From: "lab~rat >:-)"

On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:15:57 -0600, Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com>
puked:

>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:14:41 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <chase@cheeze.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:22:44 -0600, Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com>
>>puked:
>>
>>>>Every day it becomes more clear why his school transcripts are
>>>>hidden...
>>>
>>>They are not hidden. You're lying again.
>>
>>Ok, prove that I'm a liar and post them. And his thesis, for extra
>>credit.
>
>What does that have to do with Palin writing cheat notes on her hand?
>
>YOU stated they are hidden. Prove it.
>Or were you lying again?

My proof that they are hidden lies in the fact that they can't be
produced.

Unless of course you can prove that to be wrong...
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

== 2 of 11 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 15 2010 6:34 am
From: "lab~rat >:-)"

On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 03:56:41 -0500, Cliff
<Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> puked:

>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:14:41 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <chase@cheeze.net> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:22:44 -0600, Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com>
>>puked:
>>
>>>>Every day it becomes more clear why his school transcripts are
>>>>hidden...
>>>
>>>They are not hidden. You're lying again.
>>
>>Ok, prove that I'm a liar and post them. And his thesis, for extra
>>credit.
>
> You are a winger so you would try to lie in any case.
>
> Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law School.
>
> PLUS the Nobel Peace Prize.
>
>HTH

It does help. By mentioning the Peace Prize that he received right
before sending 30k off to war, it proves all the more that his
accolades are undeserving. Even HE admitted it.
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

== 3 of 11 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 15 2010 6:38 am
From: "lab~rat >:-)"

On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:12:57 -0600, Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com>
puked:

>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:23:46 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <chase@cheeze.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:16:52 -0600, Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com>
>>puked:
>>
>>>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:18:25 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <chase@cheeze.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:34:43 -0600, Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com>
>>>>puked:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:58:31 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <chase@cheeze.net>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:35:06 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_real@bogus.net>
>>>>>>puked:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"lab~rat >:-)" <chase@cheeze.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 05:58:07 -0500, Cliff puked:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Look how many Palin posts are generated, and she's just some broad on
>>>>>>>>>>FOX News. You people are ridiculous.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> She is funny ....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I agree, but not in comparison to the hilarity she generates from the
>>>>>>>>left.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It's just that 0bama is such an unfunny disaster that our far left
>>>>>>>tries to cover up by making fun of anything they can think of.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>War escalations, depression, spreading unemployment, bank collapses,
>>>>>>>growing trade imbalance, escalating national debt, wouldn't YOU rather
>>>>>>>talk about something else? Anything else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If he lost the presidency and was back to being a rabble rouser, I'd
>>>>>>find him funny. Once he's voted out of office, he'll be another Jesse
>>>>>>Jackson...
>>>>>
>>>>>He wasn't one before why do you lie and say he'll be one then?
>>>>
>>>>He's a common street agitator. Nothing more.\
>>>
>>>More unproven allegations. Why do you lie so much?
>>
>>Do you have any information that shows Obama ever had a job that
>>didn't provide a government paycheck? Just curious.
>
>What does that have to do with the subject? Try to keep it on topic,
>ok?

The subject has changed. Keep up.

>>
>>>>
>>>>>Better than being a bush and doing supermarket openings.
>>>>
>>>>YABBIT BUSH
>>>>
>>>>>And you have 7 more years to whine about him!
>>>>
>>>>Three, thank you...
>>>
>>>The tide is turning.
>>
>>Yeah, that's the point...
>
>You lost again.

--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

== 4 of 11 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 15 2010 6:40 am
From: "lab~rat >:-)"

On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:42:04 -0500, Cliff
<Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> puked:

>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:23:46 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <chase@cheeze.net> wrote:
>
>>Do you have any information that shows Obama ever had a job that
>>didn't provide a government paycheck?
>
> Yes.

Wrong.

> But Palin never did.

Wrong again.
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

== 5 of 11 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 15 2010 6:42 am
From: "lab~rat >:-)"

On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:11:56 -0600, Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com>
puked:

>>Oh, and everything went like clockwork, according to the clowns we
>>have in power now...
>
>No, you're lying again. They admitted they made mistakes.

Not at first they didn't. Not until they were called out on it did
they acquiesce. Like they continue to do.

It's a goddam riot watching how Obama listens to the news and reacts
to every criticism that's made about him. What a douchebag.
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

== 6 of 11 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 15 2010 6:44 am
From: "lab~rat >:-)"

On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:14:25 -0600, Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com>
puked:

>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:28:43 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <chase@cheeze.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:18:09 -0600, Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com>
>>puked:
>>
>>>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:22:53 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <chase@cheeze.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:40:39 -0600, Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com>
>>>>puked:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 06:41:40 -0500, Cliff
>>>>><Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:26:13 -0500, Poetic Justice
>>>>>><Poetic-Justice@Talk-n-Dog.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 2/10/2010 6:02 AM, Cliff wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:30:23 -0500, Poetic Justice
>>>>>>>> <PoeticJustice@talk-n-dog...com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2/9/2010 5:05 PM, Burled Frau wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Cliff" <Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:ngr2n5p32ufo8kafacnakkkdbn7tsjfvug@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 08:54:19 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <chase@cheeze.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:19:00 -0600, Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> puked:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:04:35 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_real@bogus.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cliff <Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Sarah Palin Reads Cheat Notes Off Her Hand:"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ah, yes. Palin again. Just what is your fascination with her?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could it simply be that she is a good foil to take the heat of 0bama's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meltdown?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nah..she's just fucking hilarious!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Agree completely
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/sarahpalin/ig/Sarah-Palin-Pictures/Palin-Hi-Mom-Hand-Note.0zq0.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How stupid.
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Cliff
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What's so stupid about it, TMT has it written on both of his hands.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Obama's so stupid he had to have his name tattooed inside his eye lids...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Palin's a learner.
>>>>>>>> She had that "debate" with O'Biden ....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *MUST MEAN SHE DOESN'T SEE ANY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She needs new glasses too?
>>>>>> Not covered in the US$ 150,000 makeup lessons & hairdo?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Good`old BarJoe O'Biden.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or by her healthcare plan ...
>>>>>
>>>>>What does her slut daughter and grandchild to for health care right
>>>>>now?
>>>>
>>>>Funny, when "daughter" and "Biden" and "slut" are mentioned in the
>>>>same post, I can't help but wonder where the phrase "blowjobs for
>>>>cocaine" is...
>>>
>>>Changing the subject again? Can't handle the truth, can you?
>>
>>The "subject" spiraled into idiocy when you made that ridiculous post.
>
>Really? Which post did I make that took this off topic?

There's difference between "idiocy" and "off topic"...
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

== 7 of 11 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 15 2010 6:44 am
From: Lookout

On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:33:35 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <chase@cheeze.net>
wrote:

>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:15:57 -0600, Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com>
>puked:
>
>>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:14:41 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <chase@cheeze.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:22:44 -0600, Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com>
>>>puked:
>>>
>>>>>Every day it becomes more clear why his school transcripts are
>>>>>hidden...
>>>>
>>>>They are not hidden. You're lying again.
>>>
>>>Ok, prove that I'm a liar and post them. And his thesis, for extra
>>>credit.
>>
>>What does that have to do with Palin writing cheat notes on her hand?
>>
>>YOU stated they are hidden. Prove it.
>>Or were you lying again?
>
>My proof that they are hidden lies in the fact that they can't be
>produced.

Then they don't exist for the sake of this argument

Thanks for playing.

== 8 of 11 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 15 2010 6:45 am
From: Lookout

On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:34:39 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <chase@cheeze.net>
wrote:

>On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 03:56:41 -0500, Cliff
><Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> puked:
>
>>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:14:41 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <chase@cheeze.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:22:44 -0600, Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com>
>>>puked:
>>>
>>>>>Every day it becomes more clear why his school transcripts are
>>>>>hidden...
>>>>
>>>>They are not hidden. You're lying again.
>>>
>>>Ok, prove that I'm a liar and post them. And his thesis, for extra
>>>credit.
>>
>> You are a winger so you would try to lie in any case.
>>
>> Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law School.
>>
>> PLUS the Nobel Peace Prize.
>>
>>HTH
>
>It does help. By mentioning the Peace Prize that he received right
>before sending 30k off to war, it proves all the more that his
>accolades are undeserving. Even HE admitted it.

So you're not criticizing Obama but the Nobel committee?
I really don't think they care what you think,

== 9 of 11 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 15 2010 6:58 am
From: grey_ghost471-newsgroups@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost)

Cliff <Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in
news:4s5an51vj0omc1thkuto1p401fk6g1q0ji@4ax.com:

> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:14:41 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <chase@cheeze.net>
> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:22:44 -0600, Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com>
>>puked:
>>
>>>>Every day it becomes more clear why his school transcripts are
>>>>hidden...
>>>
>>>They are not hidden. You're lying again.
>>
>>Ok, prove that I'm a liar and post them. And his thesis, for extra
>>credit.
>
> You are a winger so you would try to lie in any case.
>
> Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law School.

Well that is what is claimed. Without eh actual records

>
> PLUS the Nobel Peace Prize.

The same prize awarded to famous murdereing pig Araafat? The prize awarded
for being black and not Bush? That one?

>
> HTH

--
God, guns and guts made America great.

And Janet Napolitano nervous.

Which should tell you all you need to know about Democrats. How can one
restore America to greatness if greatness makes you uncomfortable?

== 10 of 11 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 15 2010 8:33 am
From: "lab~rat >:-)"

On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 08:44:16 -0600, Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com>
puked:

>On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:33:35 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <chase@cheeze.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:15:57 -0600, Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com>
>>puked:
>>
>>>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:14:41 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <chase@cheeze.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:22:44 -0600, Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com>
>>>>puked:
>>>>
>>>>>>Every day it becomes more clear why his school transcripts are
>>>>>>hidden...
>>>>>
>>>>>They are not hidden. You're lying again.
>>>>
>>>>Ok, prove that I'm a liar and post them. And his thesis, for extra
>>>>credit.
>>>
>>>What does that have to do with Palin writing cheat notes on her hand?
>>>
>>>YOU stated they are hidden. Prove it.
>>>Or were you lying again?
>>
>>My proof that they are hidden lies in the fact that they can't be
>>produced.
>
>Then they don't exist for the sake of this argument
>
>
>Thanks for playing.

I'd buy that. In fact, I'd buy that REAL easy.
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

== 11 of 11 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 15 2010 8:34 am
From: "lab~rat >:-)"

On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 08:45:42 -0600, Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com>
puked:

>On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:34:39 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <chase@cheeze.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 03:56:41 -0500, Cliff
>><Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> puked:
>>
>>>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:14:41 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <chase@cheeze.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:22:44 -0600, Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com>
>>>>puked:
>>>>
>>>>>>Every day it becomes more clear why his school transcripts are
>>>>>>hidden...
>>>>>
>>>>>They are not hidden. You're lying again.
>>>>
>>>>Ok, prove that I'm a liar and post them. And his thesis, for extra
>>>>credit.
>>>
>>> You are a winger so you would try to lie in any case.
>>>
>>> Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law School.
>>>
>>> PLUS the Nobel Peace Prize.
>>>
>>>HTH
>>
>>It does help. By mentioning the Peace Prize that he received right
>>before sending 30k off to war, it proves all the more that his
>>accolades are undeserving. Even HE admitted it.
>
>So you're not criticizing Obama but the Nobel committee?

Now that you mention it, I'm also criticizing Occidental, Columbia and
Harvard, as well as the affirmative action process. Thanks for
clarifying.
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

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TOPIC: Epoxy experts.....runny mess.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/fb07d83ca0cbca7c?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 15 2010 6:36 am
From: cavelamb

KG wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:28:26 +0800, "Royston Vasey" <royston@vasey.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to seal a printed circuit board into a PVC part I've turned out
>> on my lathe. The problem I'm having is the that the epoxy goes quite runny
>> as it goes through its curing process and some of it runs through small gaps
>> ( <<0.5mm) where I'd prefer it didn't.
>>
>>
>> I'm using CW177 resin & HY177 hardener in the 5:1 mix recommended.
>>
>> The data sheet is here:
>>
>> http://www.meury.com.au/uploads/170666853166.pdf
>>
>> I tried some rapid set epoxy (~90 seconds) but it turns to crap before I can
>> get it in where it needs to go.
>>
>>
>> It's not really practical to use anything else (like RTV, tape, hot glue or
>> wax etc) to seal the small gaps in the bottom of the assembly.
>>
>> Has anyone played around with this type of problem?
>>
>> thanks.
>>
>
> Talcum powder or baby powder to thicken resin if strength isn't an issue, chopped fibers if it is,
> all are available at any good boat store such as West Marine.
> *****************
> Thank You kgsAT@msbx.net
>
>
> To reply to this email please remove the AT
> after the kgs in the reply to address as shown above.
>
> Never ever under estimate the incompetent.

Fumed silca is the preferred stuff.
West 406

Richard Lamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 15 2010 8:42 am
From: Doug White

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote in
news:Xns9D204C9A8E4D4lloydspmindspringcom@216.168.3.70:

> "Royston Vasey" <royston@vasey.com> fired this volley in
> news:0Mednebj7LBTvOTWnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@westnet.com.au:
>
>> I'm trying to seal a printed circuit board into a PVC part I've
>> turned out on my lathe. The problem I'm having is the that the epoxy
>> goes quite runny as it goes through its curing process and some of it
>> runs through small gaps ( <<0.5mm) where I'd prefer it didn't.
>>
> ...
>> Has anyone played around with this type of problem?
>>
> Yep. If you cannot seal the gaps (don't understand why you can't --
> or is it just too much trouble to do?), then you'll need to add a
> thixotrope to the epoxy. Stirring will thin the material for pouring
> (thixotropic == "shear thinning"). Remaining still will cause it to
> thicken; the time-to-thicken and the degree of thickening are
> determined by the nature of the thixotrope and how much you add.

We use Hysol (now part of Loctite) 1C epoxy, which has thixotrope mixed
in (http://www.tedpella.com/technote_html/891-60%20TN.pdf) when we don't
want it to flow. McMaster carries it, part #1813A221. It takes a while
to cure, but it's very strong.

Also, very few epoxies will stick well to PVC unless you clean the
surface with a good solvent to remove the oily monomers. They sell
special primers that worke very well, but the solvents are really nasty.

Doug White

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TOPIC: The last American Chopper (was Gene Haas)
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/66ea8fd2ec7da870?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 15 2010 7:16 am
From: Cross-Slide <3t3d@centurytel.net>

On Feb 15, 7:33 am, Randy <rbraun...@enter.net> wrote:
> I did not see the episode with Gene Haas, but I did catch part of the
> show which is supposed to be their last.. They were going to build a
> Kobalt bike for Lowes. My only thought was...... it's not a true
> Kobalt bike unless it's built in China like all the Kobalt tools.
>
> Thank You,
> Randy
>
> Remove 333 from email address to reply.

How much of that cheap, gaudy, Junk do you think comes from China
already?
Shouldn't be much of a stretch for them.

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TOPIC: 3-in-1 oil rant
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/ae41bd55daf9009b?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 15 2010 7:22 am
From: "Robert Swinney"

I have a metal can of 3- in- 1 that says it is for electric motors. I've had it for years and have
looked numerous times in the the stores for more of it. Apparently it is not sold anymore. I think
it is 20 W.

Bob Swinney
"cavelamb" <cavelamb@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:PJmdnZRen4XkqeXWnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
Don Foreman wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 19:39:23 -0600, cavelamb <cavelamb@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>> bart wrote:
>>> So I've had this "tin" of 3-in-1 oil around for years - for the yearly
>>> 4-drop oiling of the radiant heating pump motors.
>>>
>>> Went to the hardware store for another "tin" of 3-in-1, and it's now
>>> in a PLASTIC bottle! ( same shape, just really cheesy plastic).
>>>
>>> Bought it anyway, 'cause I need the oil.
>>>
>>> I'm going to re-inject it back into the metal tin because I'm
>>> old-school & I like the old metal can.
>>>
>>> I'm going to write (WD-40 products, is it now?) and complain about the
>>> cheesiness of the new plastic cheap-*ss looking bottle.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile,.. is plain old 20 weight non-detergent motor oil the same
>>> thing as the old 3-in-1 ?...and OK to use in electric pump motors?
>>>
>>> Thanks for reading my rant! ;)
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Bart
>> My girlfriend gave me an old tin oil can for Christmas.
>> I think I'll keep her.
>
> You'll only keep her if you deserve her and treat her well, but she's
> telling you she likes ya and willing to journey with you for a while.

Yeah.

I hear that.

Richard Lamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/

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TOPIC: Palin's Unfavorability Ratings At All-Time High
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 15 2010 7:35 am
From: No-bammer

Cliff wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:58:50 -0600, "§nühw¤£f" <snuhwolf@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Cliff <Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> clouded the waters
>>of pure thought with
>>news:h12an5p6hrdjirucemjc2qbmfefbi94bsq@4ax.com:
>>
>>
>>>http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/02/11/sarah-palin%E2%80%99
>>>s-unfavorability-ratings-at-all-time-high/
>>> "Sarah Palin's Unfavorability Ratings At All-Time High"
>>
>>Hell, even her *kids* are dissapointed with her:
>>
>>http://www.pavlovianobeisance.com/palin_embarassed.htm
>
>
> Some probably already suspected she was their mother. OTOH
> they may have been told they were found under cabbages or
> Palin may just not know what happened.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr-4zDjt37M
>
> I suppose with wingers such matters as parentage are often it doubt.
>
> It is sad to see her using the latest to drop as a prop for the rethugs
> though. Did Rush call it a "retard"?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnBgqCAZWaY

Sounds more like you Left Wingers that can't tell fantasy from reality
and think that Tina Fey is Sarah Palin.

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TOPIC: OT: Guns Save Lives -- Again!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/55aad5dba11805d9?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 15 2010 7:47 am
From: WangoTango

In article <A6adne3EwejFtevWnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@posted.toastnet>,
fourl@road.net says...
> Rich Grise on Google groups wrote:
> > From: "Dudley Brown" <Dudley.Brown@nationalgunrights.org>
> >
> > I thought you would enjoy this story out of Atlanta, Georgia. If you
> > do, please forward it to your friends.
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 3 dead, 3 hurt in Alabama campus shooting
> <http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-02-12-alabama-university-shooting_N.htm>
> Woman faculty member denied tenure at University of Alabama's Huntsville
> campus, kills three biology professors and injures three other employees
> at the school Friday.
> It's the second shooting in a week on an area campus. Last Friday, a
> 14-year-old student was killed in a middle school hallway in nearby
> Madison, allegedly by a fellow student.
>
> But, gee Rich, if the lady hadn't lost her temper this Friday, she might
> have been able to thwart a crime somewhere next Friday. And that middle
> school kid, he definitely could have thwarted a crime somwehere last
> Thursday if he was in the right place at the right time, but he wasn't,
> so he killed a student on Friday instead.
>

"To ban guns because criminals use them is to tell the innocent and
law-abiding that their rights and liberties depend not on their own
conduct, but on the conduct of the guilty and the lawless, and that the
law will permit them to have only such rights and liberties as the
lawless will allow... For society does not control crime, ever, by
forcing the law-abiding to accommodate themselves to the expected
behavior of criminals. Society controls crime by forcing the criminals
to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of the law-abiding."
---------- Jeff Snyder

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TOPIC: Coating for polished brass
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/45bf22c635bf1547?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 15 2010 7:55 am
From: Mark Rand

On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 22:44:17 -0800, gk <glkd@cox.net> wrote:

>Anyone know what material is used to coat polished brass (to prevent
>tarnishing) such as bathroom fixtures? I appears to be much tougher than
>clear lacquer. Polyurethane, maybe? Any info will be appreciated.
>
>Gary

Chromium plate :-)

Mark Rand
RTFM

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TOPIC: Enco Shipping Code For Feb?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 15 2010 8:24 am
From: Doug White

"azotic" <azotic@cox.net> wrote in news:k03en.52003$zN4.5952@newsfe05.iad:

>
> "Doug White" <gwhite@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
> news:Xns9D1FD8C34DECDgwhitealummitedu@69.16.186.7...
>>I get the Enco free shipping emails at work, where I will not be for
>> several days. I want to get an order in so it will ship on Tuesday.
>>
>> Does anyone have the code handy? I think it's the usual $50 minimum
>> routine, but the stuff I need will qualify.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Doug White
>
>
> WEBFR

That's it! Thanks! Orders on the way...

Doug White

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TOPIC: Epoxy resist?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 15 2010 8:39 am
From: _

I'm modifying a cheap plastic film camera to do 'B' shots (star trails) and
I need to fix a pivot to the case; a small blade passes though a slit to
push against the original shutter so it'll stay open. I would like to
solder a shaft to the blade and epoxy blobs to the ends of the shaft so
they are held but free to turn. Grease? bakers parchment paper?

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TOPIC: Threading on Hardinge DV59?
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 15 2010 8:42 am
From: Jamie

I know this is an oddball thing to ask but...
Has anyone heard of someone making mods to a DV59 so they can turn an
occasional unusual thread?
I'm pondering designing an easily attachable/removable add-on so I can
do it. I know that for doing lots of threading it would make more
sense to get a different lathe, but I might do this anyway just to
have a bizarre project.

Anyone care to dissuade me or point to an existing solution?

Thanks
J

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 15 2010 8:52 am
From: Ned Simmons

On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 08:42:01 -0800 (PST), Jamie
<jamespage01@gmail.com> wrote:

>I know this is an oddball thing to ask but...
>Has anyone heard of someone making mods to a DV59 so they can turn an
>occasional unusual thread?
>I'm pondering designing an easily attachable/removable add-on so I can
>do it. I know that for doing lots of threading it would make more
>sense to get a different lathe, but I might do this anyway just to
>have a bizarre project.
>
>Anyone care to dissuade me or point to an existing solution?
>

The most obvious is a Geometric die head and chasers.

Does your lathe have a tailstock or a turret?

--
Ned Simmons

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