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TOPIC: Ethics Complaint
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/88f5d36cfd86feaa?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 10:37 am
From: "PrecisionmachinisT"

"Chief Egalitarian" <Egal@legal_egal.law> wrote in message
news:4bb75b3c$1@news.x-privat.org...
>
>
> "Cliff" <Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
> news:dvsdr5hjdtrmkd01805a11k9hf3ovfvvdd@4ax.com...
> >
> >
http://www.alternet.org/news/146285/ethics_complaint_leveled_at_right-wing_c
ongressional_members_of_shadowy_christian_group
> > "Ethics Complaint Leveled at Right-Wing Congressional Members of
Shadowy
> > Christian Group"
> >
> > [
> > A group of congressmen and senators living in a posh townhouse on
Capitol
> > Hill
> > owned by the notorious Family may now have to answer to ethics
committees
> > for
> > low rent.
> >
> > A group of congressmen and senators living in a posh townhouse on
Capitol
> > Hill
> > may now have to answer to the ethics committees in their respective
> > chambers,
> > thanks to letters of complaint filed by the watchdog group, Citizens for
> > Responsibility and Ethics in Washington. At issue is the modest rent
paid
> > by the
> > conservative male lawmakers -- who hail from both political parties --
to
> > live
> > in the house owned by The Family, the shadowy, right-wing religious
group
> > that
> > sponsors the National Prayer Breakfast and shores up the work of
dictators
> > throughout the developing world.
> > ....
> > Named in the complaint to the Senate committee (PDF) are Senators Tom
> > Coburn,
> > R-Okla.; John Ensign, R-Nev.; Jim DeMint, R-S.C., and Sam Brownback,
> > R-Kans.
> > CREW's letter to the House committee (PDF) names as recipients of a
> > probable
> > "gift" of a rent subsidy Representatives Bart Stupak, D-Ohio; Zach Wamp,
> > R-Tenn.; Mike Doyle, D-Penn., and Heath Shuler, D-N.C. (Coburn, Ensign
and
> > DeMint are among the group of Family members AlterNet investigated when
> > examining Republican opposition to health-care reform.)
> >
> > CREW alleges that the lawmakers pay below-market rent for their rooms in
> > the
> > restored 19th-century property, receiving lodging and housekeeping for
> > $950
> > month in a neighborhood where a one-room efficiency apartment can go for
> > as much
> > as $1,700. Essentially, the CREW complaints say that the rents are being
> > subsidized by the entity that owns the house, and that subsidy,
according
> > to
> > ethics rules, amounts to the sort of "gift" that is banned under ethics
> > rules,
> > according to CREW Executive Director Melanie Sloan.
> > ....
> > In a related story, ClergyVOICE, a group of Protestant religious leaders
> > called
> > on the Internal Revenue Service to investigate the tax implications of
> > accepting
> > a subsidized rent. Earlier this year, the C Street house had its
> > tax-exempt
> > status revoked: its owners had claimed the house to be a church, and
> > thereby
> > exempt from paying property taxes.
> > .....
> > ]
>
> trim
>

trim

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TOPIC: Actual Metalworking
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/c29b7f23d5c89a85?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 9:40 am
From: Tim Wescott

RogerN wrote:
> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:4BB67E5B.50B25BF9@earthlink.net...
>> Wes wrote:
>>> Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>> _And_ it starts with a ni-starter -- Cox glow heads _demand_ a good dry
>>>> cell battery, and just sneer at you if you try to give them 1.2V from a
>>>> nicad.
>>> http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/cox_head.txt
>>> http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/cox_head-inside.jpg
>>> http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/cox_head-on_plane.jpg
>>> http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/cox_head-plans.jpg
>>> http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/cox_head-top.jpg
>>>
>>> That .3v per cell matters at times.
>>
>> A fresh carbon zinc is closer to 1.55 volts. 1.2 volts would be a
>> little over a 40% reduction in power dissipate in the glow plug.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Lead free solder is Belgium's version of 'Hold my beer and watch this!'
>
> There seems to be a lot of difference in the internal resistance of the
> batteries too. For example, it would be interesting to measure the voltage
> at the glow head using a Sub C Nicad versus a C cell carbon zinc, I doubt
> there would be a 40% difference, the Nicad might even deliver more voltage
> to the glow head. However using a 1.5V lantern battery sized carbon zinc
> cell would get the voltage up there. For glow plugs I use either 1.2V
> rechargeable or my power panel glow driver, I guess the power panel would be
> better for Cox engines but I haven't used them enough in R/C to notice a
> difference.

For the Cox engines I was told to use two D size alkaline cells in
parallel. I do that, with good thick wires, and it works like a charm.
I use 3/16" (I think that's the size) copper tube on the batteries,
which is just the right size for banana plugs, good thick not-too-long
wires, and a Sulivan clip. It works like a charm.

For the conversion heads with glow plugs, I use a little bitty
Ni-starter -- whee!

--
Tim Wescott
Control system and signal processing consulting
www.wescottdesign.com

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TOPIC: OT - Hyperinflation as a goal?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/5baf0df42579e249?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 11:05 am
From: "John R. Carroll"

F. George McDuffee wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 12:07:33 -0800, "John R. Carroll"
> <nunya@bidness.dev.nul> wrote:
> <snip>
>> That would, however, require the American public
>> to grow a pair and stop being afraid of their own shadow. That isn't
>> practical with all of the hype from every possible direction so it
>> will require that our politicians display a little courage, possibly
>> by falling on their own swords for the greater good.
> <snip>
> ============
> Even here there is no [quasi] logic applied. With the serious
> problems of illegal immigration, drugs, and now narco-violence
> spilling over our souther borders, why do we have troops
> stationed everywhere in the world *EXCEPT* along the southern
> border?

That's easy George.
The Latin gangs terrorizing places like Phoenix aren't wearing diapers on
their heads.
4th ID would be patrolling the streets from Mexico City north to the border
today if they did.

I still think my idea to parachute 10,000 naked menopausal Irish women each
with a bottle of single malt into Iraq and Afgahanistan is a winner. They'd
give a drunken Irish ass woopin' to anyone that didn't gouge out their eyes
and that would be the end of that.

--
John R. Carroll

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TOPIC: OT-Democrats host gunfight
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/c159ca960168a4d1?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 10:50 am
From: "Buerste"

"Larry Jaques" <ljaques@diversify.invalid> wrote in message
news:umher5l3rcuu0hin1loqs30fhirgodqlrh@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 20:51:45 -0700, the infamous "azotic"
> <azotic@cox.net> scrawled the following:
>
>>42 shootings in 3 days.
>>
>>24 shootings in 24 hours.
>
> And only 2 dead. Demonrats are lousy shots, too, aren't they?
>
>
>>Democrats shure can run a city.
>>
>>http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/wgntv-shooting-west-englewood-police-apr2,0,4846642.story
>
> What a place to raise a President!
> Gentle breezes, clean voting, safe streets, nice mob.
> Uh, pass.
>
> --
> It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most
> intelligent,
> but the one most responsive to change.
> -- Charles
> Darwin

The best part about Obammyland is the excellent traffic flow through and
around the city.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 11:21 am
From: "Chief Egalitarian"

"Buerste" <buerste@buerste.com> wrote in message
news:hp7v4v$141$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>
> "Larry Jaques" <ljaques@diversify.invalid> wrote in message
> news:umher5l3rcuu0hin1loqs30fhirgodqlrh@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 20:51:45 -0700, the infamous "azotic"
>> <azotic@cox.net> scrawled the following:
>>
>>>42 shootings in 3 days.
>>>
>>>24 shootings in 24 hours.
>>
>> And only 2 dead. Demonrats are lousy shots, too, aren't they?
>>
>>
>>>Democrats shure can run a city.
>>>
>>>http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/wgntv-shooting-west-englewood-police-apr2,0,4846642.story
>>
>> What a place to raise a President!
>> Gentle breezes, clean voting, safe streets, nice mob.
>> Uh, pass.
>>
>> --
>> It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most
>> intelligent,
>> but the one most responsive to change.
>> -- Charles
>> Darwin
>
> The best part about Obammyland is the excellent traffic flow through and
> around the city.
>

You must not have driven there lately.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 2:05 pm
From: Wes

"Buerste" <buerste@buerste.com> wrote:

>The best part about Obammyland is the excellent traffic flow through and
>around the city.

Only if you have enough $ to pay the toll booths every two miles.

Wes

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TOPIC: A new "constitutional right"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/8e77e80070fe5b42?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 10:55 am
From: "Chief Egalitarian"

"tankfixer" <paul.carrier@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.26210bf3a3dce1c41213@news.bytemine.net...
> In article <v30er5l8ovoqiflo2jq9bssq14v272o183@4ax.com>,
> Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...
>>
>> On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 11:59:52 -0700, tankfixer <paul.carrier@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <1gicr5lb7jft4bm62l9ek0apsib5h08bfb@4ax.com>,
>> >Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 11:47:39 -0700, tankfixer <paul.carrier@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >In article <i8uar5phs7c9vv3c1uhe4g46mqvrer277u@4ax.com>,
>> >> >Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 19:07:55 -0700, tankfixer
>> >> >> <paul.carrier@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >In article <0fs5r5dbvbh6vrfiqec6m5gnhajjhgoudm@4ax.com>,
>> >> >> >Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:11:00 -0700, tankfixer
>> >> >> >> <paul.carrier@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >In article <mml0r5p29etm2kvp5jgcifq0n9m4k8r5li@4ax.com>,
>> >> >> >> >Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 19:30:36 -0800, tankfixer
>> >> >> >> >> <paul.carrier@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >In article <a9qvm511bjhp3a8j5ur99kgt312mb5ijjq@4ax.com>,
>> >> >> >> >> >Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> Hence the court had to make new law, right?
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >What new law is that ?
>> >> >> >> >> >Go ahead and take all the pages you need.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/22/us/politics/22scotus.html
>> >> >> >> >> "Overruling two important precedents about the First
>> >> >> >> >> Amendment rights of
>> >> >> >> >> corporations, ..."
>> >> >> >> >> "The decision will be felt most immediately in the coming
>> >> >> >> >> midterm elections
>> >> >> >> >> ..."
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >What new law was that ?
>> >> >> >> >You still havn't explained ...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Wingers are always objecting to courts making "new law".
>> >> >> >> This case is a perfect example of such.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Yet you can't explain what that "new law" might be even given
>> >> >> >numerous
>> >> >> >opportunities..
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I can see you never paid attention in class either.
>> >> >> Any class. About anything.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Eighth grade & out (knowing it all)?
>> >> >> At about age 19?
>> >> >
>> >> >I can't speak to your education, or obvious lack thereof..
>> >> >
>> >> >You still trying to find that new law you claim was made ?
>> >>
>> >> Was it legal before?
>> >> Nope.
>> >
>> >Yup, it was entirely legal prior to your fascist buddies passing yet
>> >another unconstitutional law.
>>
>> What unconstitutional law might that be?
>
> The McCann-Fiengold monstosity, but you knew that.
>
>
>>
>> >The SC ruling merely corrected that mistake.
>>
>> Corporations are not proper persons & never have been.
>
> So if I understand you correctly no corporation should be allowed to
> spend money on indipendant campaign communications ?
> I just want to understand your position.
>
>
>>
>> >>
>> >> >Or are you surrendering and trying to change the subject ?
>> >> >Again...
>> >>
>> >> You lose again.
>> >
>> >Every day the Fascist's you defend remain in power America loses...
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
>> "Fascists seek to organize a nation on corporatist perspectives;
>> values; and
>> systems such as the political system and the economy."
>> "Scholars generally consider fascism to be on the far right of the
>> conventional left-right political spectrum,"
>> "Fascism is strongly opposed to core aspects of the Enlightenment and
>> is an
>> opponent of liberalism, .."
>> "Italian Fascism's economy was based on corporatism and a number of
>> other
>> fascist movements similarly promoted corporatism."
>> "They promoted the interests of successful businesses while banning
>> trade
>> unions and other workers' organizations."
>>
>> You don't even know the meaning of simple words.
>
> I had to use something. since you object to being called leftists,
> socialists or communists...
>
>
>>
>> Ignorant winger.
>
> That you surely are...

trim

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TOPIC: control a pot
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/f3b72e357cb90ca7?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 11:06 am
From: "Karl Townsend"

> Karl there are dc powered, motorized pots made by Alps and others for
> remote volume controls. but you could use a R/C servo motor to turn the
> pot, and a 555 timer IC to generate the PWM control signals. This was
> common on the old C-band feed horns to select the polarity, and trim the
> alignment as you changed channels.

I'm terrible at circuit board work and useless at EE design, but I can have
kits done.
How about this one? My control can output 0-10 volt for analog control.
http://www.kitsrus.com/pdf/k102.pdf

And then get a servo motor.

Karl

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 12:51 pm
From: rangerssuck

On Apr 2, 6:58 pm, "Karl Townsend" <karltownsend....@embarqmail.com>
wrote:
> I need to control a pot with my CNC control. One option is to get a pot
> turner like this:http://www.cnc4pc.com/Store/osc/product_info.php?cPath=25&products_id...
>
> This would work but I'm not real keen on having a device to physically turn
> a knob.
>
> I've got a whacky idea that I'd like to run past the EE types in the group.
> I have a large number of unused Opto 22 digital outputshttp://www.opto22.com/site/pr_details.aspx?cid=4&item=G4ODC5
>
> For sake of argument, lets keep the numbers simple. Get four resistors, 100,
> 200, 400, 800 ohm in series in place of the pot. In parallel with each
> resistor put an opto output. Then using base two, any resistance from 0 to
> 1500 ohms is possible. The switch time on these outs is 100 microseconds -
> I'm thinking a pot to control power level on the plasma cutter couldn't
> possibly notice the switch time. I don't know if these devices will work at
> 0 volt between the otpo 22 output connections.
>
> Or is there another easy way to do a pot with a CNC control?
>
> Karl

You've ALMOST got it right. Google R/2R or "Resistor Ladder" to get
what you're looking for.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 1:05 pm
From: whit3rd

On Apr 2, 3:58 pm, "Karl Townsend" <karltownsend....@embarqmail.com>
wrote:
> I need to control a pot with my CNC control. One option is to get a pot
> turner like this:http://www.cnc4pc.com/Store/osc/product_info.php?cPath=25&products_id...

Awfully elaborate. Easier would be to run three wires from the box,
(usually a potentiometer has three terminals) to an interface that
contains multiple pots just like the original, and a bunch of relays
to switch one or the other into the circuit. How many 'states' do you
need to have the digital gizmo control? Fast-medium-slow-off?
If one terminal is ground, wire those all together and put a
double-pole relay on each channel. The digital gizmo just
selects one of the preset pots.

As you will undoubtedly find, 'digital' potentiometers have low
voltage
and current limits, and are best designed in at the factory.

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TOPIC: Go Daddy Seeking To Host Jon Banquer's New Blog?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/1f1c4be9ecd118ec?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 11:14 am
From: Joe788

Bidding for hosting Jon Banquer's new blog is said to be intense.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 11:30 am
From: Joe788

On Apr 3, 11:14 am, Joe788 <larryro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Bidding for hosting Jon Banquer's new blog is said to be intense.

This could be one of the funniest things you've ever posted, Jon.

Your insanity has reached a whole new level. I *do* love watching you
post about yourself in the third person though.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 11:50 am
From: "Existential Angst"

"Joe788" <joemama788@aol.com> wrote in message
news:fc008d51-c58d-440b-8e49-9ecb9ba38c55@r18g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 3, 11:14 am, Joe788 <larryro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Bidding for hosting Jon Banquer's new blog is said to be intense.

This could be one of the funniest things you've ever posted, Jon.

Your insanity has reached a whole new level. I *do* love watching you
post about yourself in the third person though.

===================================================

Like these ignerint-azzed ath-a-letes who refer to themselves in the 3rd
person?
Hilarious....

I know of one pseudo-celeb who refers to himself in the plural!

" Howya doin, Gary??"

" WE'RE doing fine, thank you...."

holy shit..... and there were only TWO of them in the elevator!!!
I"d press ALL the floor buttons, and get off IMMEDIATELY.....

Gotta 'mit, tho, Jon Banquer, The Elusive Thief-in-Residence at Qualcomm,
does have a talent for turning embarrassing negatives into fantasical
positives, eh?

GoDaddy bidding.... fukn hilarious.....

I figgered all this while Bonkers was boning up on spreadsheets or sumpn...
mebbe data entry??

--
EA

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TOPIC: Qualcomm's Competition Lured Jon Banquer Away?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/adbd506bd0bf6da3?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 11:21 am
From: Joe788

Is Jon Banquer is being paid well over 100,000 a year for his
services?

Did Jon Banquer gave notice at Qualcomm after working there for 2
years and cash out before Qualcomm's stock tumbled $10 a share?

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 11:28 am
From: Joe788

On Apr 3, 11:21 am, Joe788 <larryro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Is Jon Banquer is being paid well over 100,000 a year for his
> services?
>
> Did Jon Banquer gave notice at Qualcomm after working there for 2
> years and cash out before Qualcomm's stock tumbled $10 a share?

HAHAHAHA!!! We all knew it was only a matter of time before you were
canned, Jon. A little shocking though that you couldn't even hack it
in *faux* shop.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 11:58 am
From: "Existential Angst"

"Joe788" <joemama788@aol.com> wrote in message
news:db662755-a1ee-4d27-8a80-5bea9c1d2c76@l25g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 3, 11:21 am, Joe788 <larryro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Is Jon Banquer is being paid well over 100,000 a year for his
> services?
>
> Did Jon Banquer gave notice at Qualcomm after working there for 2
> years and cash out before Qualcomm's stock tumbled $10 a share?

HAHAHAHA!!! We all knew it was only a matter of time before you were
canned, Jon. A little shocking though that you couldn't even hack it
in *faux* shop.

=======================================================

$100,000/yr for "services"?????????????????
Jon Banquer WAS pretty adept at polishing a knob, but he musta really
gotten even better!!

Mebbe he's parading around in a thong??

Heh, the free ride hopefully really is over for dat pathological useless
character-less muthafucka.
Ahm all for people getting free rides, but goddamm, at least let them be 1%
deserving of sed ride.

--
EA

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 1:01 pm
From: Joe788

On Apr 3, 11:58 am, "Existential Angst" <UNfit...@UNoptonline.net>
wrote:
> "Joe788" <joemama...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:db662755-a1ee-4d27-8a80-5bea9c1d2c76@l25g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 3, 11:21 am, Joe788 <larryro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Is Jon Banquer is being paid well over 100,000 a year for his
> > services?
>
> > Did Jon Banquer gave notice at Qualcomm after working there for 2
> > years and cash out before Qualcomm's stock tumbled $10 a share?
>
> HAHAHAHA!!! We all knew it was only a matter of time before you were
> canned, Jon. A little shocking though that you couldn't even hack it
> in *faux* shop.
>
> =======================================================
>
> $100,000/yr for "services"?????????????????
> Jon Banquer WAS pretty adept at polishing a knob, but he musta really
> gotten even better!!
>
> Mebbe he's parading around in a thong??
>
> Heh, the free ride hopefully really is over for dat pathological useless
> character-less muthafucka.
> Ahm all for people getting free rides, but goddamm, at least let them be 1%
> deserving of sed ride.
>
> --
> EA

I'm surprised Jon hasn't opened up his high end job shop yet with
those high tech Fadals he was packing away.

"Here at Jon Banquer's Fadal Graveyard, we utilize the ultimate in
cracked CADCAM software with full graphical editing of the toolpath,
and full dynamic graphical selection of start and stop points on
chains, as well as full dynamic graphical selection of cutter comp
direction. Our cracked copy of NX with Synchronous Technology,
guarantees we'll drag and drop the features of your solid model until
the finished part is completely unrecognizable. This full dynamic
technology combined with our seamless hybrid modeling kernel, and true
solid cut part rendering, ensure your parts will be cut as efficiently
as possible on our 20 year old, worn out, "paid for" Fadals. Quality
is assured via an elaborate collection of antique, uncalibrated
inspection equipment, stored in a 12 foot high rollaway, complete with
a mirror to look into the top."

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TOPIC: Working class
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/facb62633a2f2005?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 11:49 am
From: Curly Surmudgeon

On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 04:32:53 -0500, Strabo <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote:

> Dan wrote:
>> Strabo wrote:
>>> hal wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 04:16:35 -0700, Gunner Asch
>>>> <gunnerasch@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> And the winner of the Chicken Dinner is.....Obama......... 8% !!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep! Thats right! Only 8% !!! ..... the least by far of the last 19
>>>>> presidents!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Notice you don't provide a cite. No doubt because you got this where
>>>> you get most of your shit... out of your ass..
>>>>
>>>>> And these people are trying to tell our big corporations how to run
>>>>> their business?
>>>>>
>>>>> They know what's best for GM...Chrysler... Wall Street... and you
>>>>> and me?
>>>>>
>>>>> How can the president of a major nation and society...the one with
>>>>> the most successful economic system in world history... stand and
>>>>> talk about
>>>>> business when he's never worked for
>>>>> one? ...... or about jobs when he has never really had one??!
>>>>
>>>> The man went to Harvard. Something you could never have done.
>>>
>>> It's very difficult to get into Harvard, not because of academic
>>> requirements but because acceptance is based on social and political
>>> criteria. So how did Barry Soetoro get in? What was his connection?
>>
>> Grades?
>>
>>
> Mediocre.

You call Magna Cum Laude "mediocre"?

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TOPIC: How Many People Does Jon Banquer Totally Own / Control?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/90cb3cbaaaf49737?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 12:12 pm
From: Joe788

There should be a list published on the Internet by now! : )

Jon Banquer Has Full Ownership Of The Following Bitches / Cunts:

Cliff Huprich

The real / fake Joe788

Krissy Hogg

Ed Huntress

James Meyette of Selway Machine Tools

Pete Looghe

Kirk Gordon

Dave Ault

"Fat Matt" Lombard

Franco Folini of Novedge

Tyler Robinson of Out House Solutions

owner of CNC Advertising Zone.

Scott in PA

Jon Banquer Has Partial Ownership Of The Following Bitches / Cunts:

John Carroll

Bottlebitch

Vinny

John Paris of eMastercam

Hardmill of eMastercam

Who is missing?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 12:19 pm
From: Joe788

On Apr 3, 12:12 pm, Joe788 <larryro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> There should be a list published on the Internet by now! : )
>
> Jon Banquer Has Full Ownership Of The Following Bitches / Cunts:
>
> Cliff Huprich
>
> The real / fake Joe788
>
> Krissy Hogg
>
> Ed Huntress
>
> James Meyette of Selway Machine Tools
>
> Pete Looghe
>
> Kirk Gordon
>
> Dave Ault
>
> "Fat Matt" Lombard
>
> Franco Folini of Novedge
>
> Tyler Robinson of Out House Solutions
>
> owner of CNC Advertising Zone.
>
> Scott in PA
>
> Jon Banquer Has Partial Ownership Of The Following Bitches / Cunts:
>
> John Carroll
>
> Bottlebitch
>
> Vinny
>
> John Paris of eMastercam
>
> Hardmill of eMastercam
>
> Who is missing?

Says the lunatic who is posting as me and just got fired from his job.
LOL!

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TOPIC: Bubble of Ignorance
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/2990ea519b199327?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 12:28 pm
From: Gunner Asch

On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 06:51:45 -0700, Larry Jaques
<ljaques@diversify.invalid> wrote:

>PDFTFT

Sorry Larry..but Whine isnt a troll. He is a bitter, unseemly,
halfwitted fat slobbering retarded perverted and self hating typical Far
Leftwing Fringe Kook.

Shrug

Gunner

"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

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TOPIC: Manufacturing is BOOMING in USA
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/c816c7bd5e73ce02?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 12:40 pm
From: "Bill Noble"

"Ignoramus17332" <ignoramus17332@NOSPAM.17332.invalid> wrote in message
news:t-GdnYzNT4kk_CrWnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> On 2010-04-03, David Courtney <advance@powercom.net> wrote:
>> They're saying, "Gee, he pumped trillions of dollars into the most
>> corrupt industries and poorly run companies he could find... and six
>> months
>> later there's a little "blip" on the manufacturing index. Whooo-hooo!"
>
> Keep in mind that "pumping" takes form of asset purchases, buying
> preferred stock and (possibly) equity. These are investments that are,
> in most cases, recoverable.
>
> I

keep in mind that most of the hate postings are by people who are bitter,
isolated and not on the receiving side of any benefit. There used to be a
time when we felt that what was good for the country as a whole was the
right thing to do - you will notice that this attitude is now gone,
particularly from those posting about death panels, baby killing, and using
divisive terms and invective. We had a civil war once - it was not
pleasant. I had hoped we had matured enough to find solutions rather than
make speeches but evidence appears to the contrary. Carl Rove and his
divide and win policy certainly has not helped any. The demise of
newspapers has led to the uniformed believing what they read on internet
blogs or hear screamed by talking heads who are paid for their ability to
arouse, not for their ability to be truthful. Those who denigrate the
current administration via ad-hominem attacks and factless accusations are
part of the problem - and screaming, shouting, and spittle do not lead to a
dialog, solution, unity, or progress. Did anyone ever see Regan, for
example, stoop to this level? or Eisenhower? or even either of the Bushes?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 12:57 pm
From: Gunner Asch

On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 12:40:45 -0700, "Bill Noble" <nobody@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:

>
>
>"Ignoramus17332" <ignoramus17332@NOSPAM.17332.invalid> wrote in message
>news:t-GdnYzNT4kk_CrWnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> On 2010-04-03, David Courtney <advance@powercom.net> wrote:
>>> They're saying, "Gee, he pumped trillions of dollars into the most
>>> corrupt industries and poorly run companies he could find... and six
>>> months
>>> later there's a little "blip" on the manufacturing index. Whooo-hooo!"
>>
>> Keep in mind that "pumping" takes form of asset purchases, buying
>> preferred stock and (possibly) equity. These are investments that are,
>> in most cases, recoverable.
>>
>> I
>
>keep in mind that most of the hate postings are by people who are bitter,
>isolated and not on the receiving side of any benefit. There used to be a
>time when we felt that what was good for the country as a whole was the
>right thing to do - you will notice that this attitude is now gone,
>particularly from those posting about death panels, baby killing, and using
>divisive terms and invective. We had a civil war once - it was not
>pleasant.

And we are going to have another one before long.

> I had hoped we had matured enough to find solutions rather than
>make speeches but evidence appears to the contrary.

Indeed. Check Washington and the Internet. Leftwingers are hardly
"mature". Responding to them at their level causes them to go even
more batshit crazy.

>Carl Rove and his
>divide and win policy certainly has not helped any.

Neither has the Franks/Pelosi/Schumer "Fuck the Right" stance.

>The demise of
>newspapers has led to the uniformed believing what they read on internet
>blogs or hear screamed by talking heads who are paid for their ability to
>arouse, not for their ability to be truthful.

Odd...since the newspapers are/were largely a
Liberal/Progressive/Socialist/Marxist run media..the Internet has given
other viewpoints far far more visability to other viewpoints amd
frankly...truthful information exchange.

>Those who denigrate the
>current administration via ad-hominem attacks and factless accusations are
>part of the problem -

What..you dont like Transparency?

>and screaming, shouting, and spittle do not lead to a
>dialog, solution, unity, or progress. Did anyone ever see Regan, for
>example, stoop to this level? or Eisenhower? or even either of the Bushes?

Nope..but one must respond to Leftwingers in a fashion that they are
most familiar with and one that they comprehend. One that they use for
the most part.

Afterall...one cannot be understood if using proper English, when
addressing inner city thugs, correct?

Gunner

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

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TOPIC: On Topic- Lets get rid of Cliff Options
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 12:50 pm
From: "DoN. Nichols"

On 2010-04-03, axolotl <mungedkevin@shorecomp.com> wrote:
> On 4/2/2010 10:19 AM, Louis Ohland wrote:
>>
>>> b) Downloading a real news client such as Forte, Thunderbird, or
>>> Gravity, and
>>> getting yourself an account at a free news server such as
>>> eternal-september.
>>
>> Sorry to break it to you, but Thunderbird will NOT take care of
>> cross-posting. We've tried.
>
> T3 now has a newsgroup-->contains filter, allowing the exclusion of the
> whacko groups.

Can you use wildcards in it? If so, you can match on something
like "*,*,*,*" to kill off anything with four or more newsgroups in the
list. Almost never do I find something here with that many newsgroups
in the cross-posting list to be anything other than trolling or flame
wars started by trolls -- so good riddance.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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TOPIC: WTT-30 taper & 40 Taper Drill tooling
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/a706d4519bfb43a0?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 1:21 pm
From: Gunner Asch

Im needing both a NMTB 30 and an NMTB 40 tool with a drill chuck (5/8'
prefered) attached. OR NMTB 30/40 tooling with Jacobs stub so I can
attach my own drill chucks.

Ive been running into some space limitations so need shorter tooling.

Ive got plenty of GOOD drill chucks and a few GOOD R8 drill chucks to
trade. Jacobs/Albrect/Rohm

Gunner

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

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