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TOPIC: Bubble of Ignorance
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/2990ea519b199327?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 6:27 pm
From: Larry Jaques

On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 12:28:24 -0700, the infamous Gunner Asch
<gunnerasch@gmail.com> scrawled the following:

>On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 06:51:45 -0700, Larry Jaques
><ljaques@diversify.invalid> wrote:
>
>>PDFTFT
>
>Sorry Larry..but Whine isnt a troll. He is a bitter, unseemly,
>halfwitted fat slobbering retarded perverted and self hating typical Far
>Leftwing Fringe Kook.

There's a difference?

--
It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent,
but the one most responsive to change.
-- Charles Darwin

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 7:11 pm
From: Gunner Asch

On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 18:27:53 -0700, Larry Jaques
<ljaques@diversify.invalid> wrote:

>On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 12:28:24 -0700, the infamous Gunner Asch
><gunnerasch@gmail.com> scrawled the following:
>
>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 06:51:45 -0700, Larry Jaques
>><ljaques@diversify.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>PDFTFT
>>
>>Sorry Larry..but Whine isnt a troll. He is a bitter, unseemly,
>>halfwitted fat slobbering retarded perverted and self hating typical Far
>>Leftwing Fringe Kook.
>
>There's a difference?

Yup. Most trolls, while irritating and aggravating..are not normally
retarded.

Gunner

"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

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TOPIC: Need advice
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/ba2dd86fc510afab?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 6:48 pm
From: Gunner Asch

On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 15:53:39 -0500, "Chief Egalitarian"
<Egal@legal_egal.law> wrote:

>I need some advice on what could be a life changing decision.
>
>I've suspected for some time now that my wife might be having an affair. The
>usual signs. Cell phone rings, she leaves the room. She started going out
>'with the girls' a lot recently although when I ask which girls it is always
>"Just some friends from work". I always look out for the co-worker's car
>coming to drop her home but she always walks down the drive although I can
>hear a car going down the street. As if she has got out of the car round the
>corner. Why? I once picked her cell up just to see what time it was and she
>went beserk and screamed that I should never touch her phone again and why
>was I checking up on her.
>
>Anyway, I have never approached the subject with my wife, we've been married
>almost 7 years. I think deep down I just didn't want to know the truth but
>last night she went out again and I decided to check on her. I decided I was
>going to hide behind my car which would give me a view of the whole street
>so I could see which car she gets out of. It was while I crouched behind my
>car that I noticed rust around my rear wheel arch.
>
>Should I take it into a body repair shop or should I buy some stuff from the
>local auto shop and try to repair it myself?

Id try to repair it yourself.

Gunner

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

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TOPIC: Manufacturing is BOOMING in USA
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/c816c7bd5e73ce02?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 6:51 pm
From: Gunner Asch

On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 04:23:29 +0700, John <jdslocomb@invalid.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 12:13:37 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
><huntres23@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"RogerN" <regor@midwest.net> wrote in message
>>news:VdidncURnMB5pyjWnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>>
>>> "John R. Carroll" <nunya@bidness.dev.nul> wrote in message
>>> news:H_udneErx7GYryjWnZ2dnUVZ_v2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>> Ignoramus23298 wrote:
>>>>> On 2010-04-01, RBnDFW <burkheimer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> The Bush policies are finally starting to yield positive results.
>>>>>> Of course, BHO's lackeys won't be giving Bush credit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Recall the timeline of the events. The crisis hit us in the late
>>>>> September of 2008, on the eights year of Bush presidency.
>>>>
>>>> The crisis had been in the works for nearly two years at that point with
>>>> Congress passing the first of several spending measures on January 25th
>>>> (?)
>>>> 2008.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds about right, the crisis hit when the Democrats won big in the
>>> election in 2006 and took a turn for the worse when Obama pulled ahead in
>>> the polls around Sept 2008. No wonder the Bible says the "Fool" has said
>>> there is no God, you Atheists prove the Bible correct time after time and
>>> you don't even know it!
>>>
>>> RogerN
>>
>>Roger, don't be an idiot. The Republicans blocked legislation 104 times in
>>the last Congress -- and that was counted before it was over.
>>
>>There were no big economic policies enacted during that time, and none at
>>all that didn't have Republican support. So please quit playing your banjo
>>and take a look at what really happened.
>
>
>Here now! Banjo players are all carefree, happy fellows, like myself.
>Most of us wouldn't know a politician if we met him; heck, some of us
>don't even know what color one is :-)
>
>RogerN doesn't qualify. Not even "air banjo".
>
>Cheers,
>
>John D.
>(jdslocombatgmail)

Oddly enough..Im a banjo player as well. Yet the leftwing fringe kook
extremists here think that Im some sort of rightwing fanatic.

I simply calls em like I see em.

Gunner

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 8:40 pm
From: "Michael A. Terrell"

Gunner Asch wrote:
>
> Oddly enough..Im a banjo player as well. Yet the leftwing fringe kook
> extremists here think that Im some sort of rightwing fanatic.
>
> I simply calls em like I see em.

You should have plenty of free, leftist catgut after the cull... ;-)

--
Lead free solder is Belgium's version of 'Hold my beer and watch this!'

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 9:15 pm
From: "RogerN"

"Gunner Asch" <gunnerasch@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:s3sfr5tb95t3oe2pdcu9nsrdpf7ph0jq4a@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 04:23:29 +0700, John <jdslocomb@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 12:13:37 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
>><huntres23@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"RogerN" <regor@midwest.net> wrote in message
>>>news:VdidncURnMB5pyjWnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>>>
>>>> "John R. Carroll" <nunya@bidness.dev.nul> wrote in message
>>>> news:H_udneErx7GYryjWnZ2dnUVZ_v2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>> Ignoramus23298 wrote:
>>>>>> On 2010-04-01, RBnDFW <burkheimer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> The Bush policies are finally starting to yield positive results.
>>>>>>> Of course, BHO's lackeys won't be giving Bush credit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Recall the timeline of the events. The crisis hit us in the late
>>>>>> September of 2008, on the eights year of Bush presidency.
>>>>>
>>>>> The crisis had been in the works for nearly two years at that point
>>>>> with
>>>>> Congress passing the first of several spending measures on January
>>>>> 25th
>>>>> (?)
>>>>> 2008.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sounds about right, the crisis hit when the Democrats won big in the
>>>> election in 2006 and took a turn for the worse when Obama pulled ahead
>>>> in
>>>> the polls around Sept 2008. No wonder the Bible says the "Fool" has
>>>> said
>>>> there is no God, you Atheists prove the Bible correct time after time
>>>> and
>>>> you don't even know it!
>>>>
>>>> RogerN
>>>
>>>Roger, don't be an idiot. The Republicans blocked legislation 104 times
>>>in
>>>the last Congress -- and that was counted before it was over.
>>>
>>>There were no big economic policies enacted during that time, and none at
>>>all that didn't have Republican support. So please quit playing your
>>>banjo
>>>and take a look at what really happened.
>>
>>
>>Here now! Banjo players are all carefree, happy fellows, like myself.
>>Most of us wouldn't know a politician if we met him; heck, some of us
>>don't even know what color one is :-)
>>
>>RogerN doesn't qualify. Not even "air banjo".
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>John D.
>>(jdslocombatgmail)
>
> Oddly enough..Im a banjo player as well. Yet the leftwing fringe kook
> extremists here think that Im some sort of rightwing fanatic.
>
> I simply calls em like I see em.
>
> Gunner
>

The way it works is you have to go to school long enough to be indoctrinated
with liberalism. When they brainwash you enough to fit the mold of a
liberal then they tell you that you are thinking for yourself. If you have
any opinion that disagrees with modern liberalism as taught in schools, then
you are not thinking for yourself. Liberals think for themselves and give
the indoctrinated cookie cutter answer, and anyone that comes up with their
own answer isn't thinking for themselves.

RogerN

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TOPIC: A new "constitutional right"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/8e77e80070fe5b42?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 6:54 pm
From: Gunner Asch

On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 15:44:26 -0700, tankfixer <paul.carrier@gmail.com>
wrote:

>In article <hp8b4i$hlv$2@speranza.aioe.org>,
>davesmithers@digitalpath.net says...
>>
>> >> The U.S. has had a draft numerous times in our history. So have many
>> >> other countries. Just because we don't have one now doesn't mean we
>> >> won't have it some time in the future. The point is government has
>> >> always had the ability to control the public in very complete terms. Now
>> >> it's doing it in a benign way that is intended to be beneficial for the
>> >> whole country and some people don't like that. It has the legitimate
>> >> power to do it. If it can put you in prison or in the military when it
>> >> wants to it sure can make you participate in a national health care system.
>> >
>> > The government is explicitly charged with providing a defense.
>> > Kindly point out where it has the specific constitutional duty to
>> > provide health care...
>>
>>
>> It's supposed to promote the general welfare of the people too and
>> health care is one component of that. But it's also supposed to comply
>> with the will of the people. The people want a better health care system
>> put in place. So the government is fulfilling the wishes of the public.
>
>Promote, not provide.
>
>70 some years ago the government complied with the wishes of the people
>and threw people into camps based on their country of origin.
>
>During that same time frame the wishes of the people were to restrict
>when and where persons of color could eat and ride on transit.
>Are you arguing that because the people wanted it that way that it was
>constitutional ?

I believe indeed that is what the Parakeet is saying.

Pity he is such a Usless Eater.

>
>> That makes it constitutional.
>>
>> Hawke
>

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 8:15 pm
From: Zombywoof

On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 14:15:01 -0700, Hawke
<davesmithers@digitalpath.net> wrote:

>
>>> The U.S. has had a draft numerous times in our history. So have many
>>> other countries. Just because we don't have one now doesn't mean we
>>> won't have it some time in the future. The point is government has
>>> always had the ability to control the public in very complete terms. Now
>>> it's doing it in a benign way that is intended to be beneficial for the
>>> whole country and some people don't like that. It has the legitimate
>>> power to do it. If it can put you in prison or in the military when it
>>> wants to it sure can make you participate in a national health care system.
>>
>> The government is explicitly charged with providing a defense.
>> Kindly point out where it has the specific constitutional duty to
>> provide health care...
>
>
>It's supposed to promote the general welfare of the people too and
>health care is one component of that. But it's also supposed to comply
>with the will of the people. The people want a better health care system
>put in place. So the government is fulfilling the wishes of the public.
>That makes it constitutional.
>
The word is Promote, not Provide. I know that confuses a lot of
people since both words start with "Pro".

There is absolutely nothing wrong with U.S. HealthCare. Many consider
its results to be the best in the world & many of the worlds Rich &
Famous come here for treatment.

What the so-called "people" wanted is yet another teat to suckle on.
--

"Gustatus Similis Pullus"

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 8:19 pm
From: Zombywoof

On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 14:22:33 -0700, Hawke
<davesmithers@digitalpath.net> wrote:

>
>>> Or is it just healthcare
>>> you don't want to be told you must participate in?
>>
>> At least in the one above, I get paid and get an education at least
>> partially funded. In the healthcare thingy, I have to pay monies out.
>> If the government wants everyone to have healthcare, then, damnit, do it.
>> Don't require people to have to purchase a product or go to jail.
>
>I agree, but like I told you already, nobody is going to go to jail for
>not buying insurance. That's specifically in the bill. I've seen it
>myself. I don't think it's right to make everyone buy health insurance
>from unscrupulous health insurance companies. I think a taxpayer funded
>basic health care system should be available to all. In addition, if you
>have the money and want to buy a better or more expensive health care
>plan then you should pay for that out of your own pocket. But everybody
>should get basic health care and nobody should have to go bankrupt
>because someone in their family gets a bad illness.
>
True enough no one should go bankrupt because of a bad illness, but
that would include the country as well. Additionally if you do want
that "premium" policy, you shouldn't be taxed on it just because
you've decided to obtain one.
--

"Gustatus Similis Pullus"

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 8:26 pm
From: grey_ghost471-newsgroups@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost)

Hawke <davesmithers@digitalpath.net> wrote in
news:hp8b4i$hlv$2@speranza.aioe.org:

>
>>> The U.S. has had a draft numerous times in our history. So have many
>>> other countries. Just because we don't have one now doesn't mean we
>>> won't have it some time in the future. The point is government has
>>> always had the ability to control the public in very complete terms.
>>> Now it's doing it in a benign way that is intended to be beneficial for
>>> the whole country and some people don't like that. It has the
>>> legitimate power to do it. If it can put you in prison or in the
>>> military when it wants to it sure can make you participate in a
>>> national health care system.
>>
>> The government is explicitly charged with providing a defense.
>> Kindly point out where it has the specific constitutional duty to
>> provide health care...
>
>
> It's supposed to promote the general welfare of the people too and
> health care is one component of that. But it's also supposed to comply
> with the will of the people. The people want a better health care system
> put in place. So the government is fulfilling the wishes of the public.
> That makes it constitutional.
>
> Hawke
>

My God you are stupid. What if "the public" decided lefties were vermin and
should exterminated? or blacks. Or Jews.

Do you actually think about what you say or just repeat the crap that they
unzip your skull and pour in?

--
God, guns and guts made America great.

And Janet Napolitano nervous.

Which should tell you all you need to know about Democrats. How can one
restore America to greatness if greatness makes you uncomfortable?

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TOPIC: What a load of snake oil (non political) FD-47
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/9673aaaa19a7fb62?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 6:58 pm
From: Gunner Asch

On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 19:53:34 -0500, Wes <clutch@lycos.com> wrote:

>http://www.fueldoctorusa.com/
>
>The commercial I just saw on television is an insult to anyone with a functioning brain.
>
>Wes

Crom....no wonder Best Buy is going tits up.

Gunner

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 6:59 pm
From: "T.Alan Kraus"

On 4/3/2010 5:53 PM, Wes wrote:
> http://www.fueldoctorusa.com/
>
> The commercial I just saw on television is an insult to anyone with a functioning brain.
>
> Wes
Saw that too, thought the same thing. I bet if anything, there is one
large capacitor and a couple resistors to drive the LEDs.

T.Alan

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 8:44 pm
From: Winston

On 4/3/2010 5:53 PM, Wes wrote:
> http://www.fueldoctorusa.com/
>
> The commercial I just saw on television is an insult to anyone with a functioning brain.
>
> Wes

So cynical for one so young.

I rely on 'Arsen M.' of 'Arse Starr Express Limo' for the straight poop.

--Winston

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 9:02 pm
From: Don Foreman

On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 18:58:27 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunnerasch@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 19:53:34 -0500, Wes <clutch@lycos.com> wrote:
>
>>http://www.fueldoctorusa.com/
>>
>>The commercial I just saw on television is an insult to anyone with a functioning brain.
>>
>>Wes
>
>
>Crom....no wonder Best Buy is going tits up.
>
>Gunner

Best Buy looks healthy to me:

http://quicktake.morningstar.com/StockNet/StockReturns.aspx?Symbol=BBY&Country=USA

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TOPIC: WTT-30 taper & 40 Taper Drill tooling
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/a706d4519bfb43a0?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 7:05 pm
From: "DoN. Nichols"

On 2010-04-03, Gunner Asch <gunnerasch@gmail.com> wrote:
> Im needing both a NMTB 30 and an NMTB 40 tool with a drill chuck (5/8'
> prefered) attached. OR NMTB 30/40 tooling with Jacobs stub so I can
> attach my own drill chucks.
>
> Ive been running into some space limitations so need shorter tooling.

For the smaller sizes, at least, I've found the plain end mill
holders are shorter. Even for 5/8", I think that a 5/8" end mill holder
in either 30 Taper or 40 Taper would be shorter than a chuck on an
adaptor.

And the smaller DA collet chucks also would be shorter than an
arbor plus a Jacobs chuck, though the larger collet chucks would be
longer, of course.

Also -- do you have a 30-40 taper adaptor? I have one which
will allow the 30 taper tooling for the Bridgeport to work with my 40
taper Nichols horizontal -- I just needed to make a new drawbar for
those, since they expected a different drawbar thread.

> Ive got plenty of GOOD drill chucks and a few GOOD R8 drill chucks to
> trade. Jacobs/Albrect/Rohm

You could also try a Jacobs to straight shank in a 40 taper end
mill holder.

Good Luck,
DoN.

--
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--- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero ---

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 7:44 pm
From: "Buerste"

"Gunner Asch" <gunnerasch@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:gf8fr5h4tld561ahtes1c4j488re6h8oo9@4ax.com...
> Im needing both a NMTB 30 and an NMTB 40 tool with a drill chuck (5/8'
> prefered) attached. OR NMTB 30/40 tooling with Jacobs stub so I can
> attach my own drill chucks.
>
> Ive been running into some space limitations so need shorter tooling.
>
> Ive got plenty of GOOD drill chucks and a few GOOD R8 drill chucks to
> trade. Jacobs/Albrect/Rohm
>
> Gunner
>

E-mails to you are bouncing, you're mising some good jokes.

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TOPIC: Terrorists strike again !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/d6fc092ce2bbfea7?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 7:24 pm
From: Mirror of TRVTH

On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 05:49:15 -0400, "atlas bugged"
<atlasbuggedbyspam@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Cliff" <Clhuprichguesswhat@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
> news:5tcbr55pa4657p0muoc82v3qn9ps7fl7ft@4ax.com...
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8600345.stm
> > "Thirteen Israeli air strikes hit Gaza Strip"
>
> Well, I have to agree with you.
>
> The dictators and theocrats who control 99.9% of the mid-east began once
> again attacking (with missiles and bombs) the remaining .1% where the hated
> Jewish population mostly resides.

What the mid-east neads is a great legal mind to come in and
sue the pants off the lot of them. You can do it, Chuck.
The Pallies always fold immediately, and wtf do Jewish
lawyers know. You'll win a default judgment, and nobody
will ever file a counterclaim. You could make enough money
to pay Cannon et al's legal fees & punitive damages.

Any usenet-chaser can clean up auk. Be a hero, and clean up
the whole fucking middle east!

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TOPIC: Am I a fool to buy this mill/drill?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/a1b543030985642c?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 7:31 pm
From: "DoN. Nichols"

On 2010-04-04, Michael Koblic <mkoblic@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "Tom Ivar Helbekkmo" <tih@hamartun.priv.no> wrote in message
> news:m239zcon9y.fsf@athene.hamartun.priv.no...
>
>>> The problem came when I took the vise of the swivel base: The holes
>>> were only 5/16" and I could not use my 3/8" T-nuts. In the end I cut
>>> off some 3/8" bolts and turned a portion down to 5/16" and then cut
>>> the appropriate size threads. Now the bottom goes into the T-nuts and
>>> the top through the holes in the base and I do not take up additional
>>> space through having to use the clamps.
>>
>> That's clever! You can still use the swivel base if you need to, since
>> you haven't modified the vise in any way. How did you hold the bolts
>> when turning them down and threading them, without damaging the existing
>> thread?
>
> I did it in my Taig which has a 3-jaw with aluminium jaws. I tried with two
> hex nuts etc. but in the end I just gripped them and ripped them. The
> advantage - no damage to the threads. The PITA - the alu jaws do not grip
> well enough to allow threading. On anything.

Hmm ... turn a ring for the OD of the aluminum jaws (or for
steps which you have turned on them to make them look like standard
chuck jaws) and expand the jaws into it to leave a grip diameter just a
little larger than as small as you can. Then drill the jaws (expanded
into the ring) to the tap drill size and start a tap into this on the
lathe with the rear end held in line by the tailstock center. Once the
tap is started, remove the chuck from the lathe and grip it in a vise
and finish tapping the jaws as deep as is reasonable for holding your
threaded stock. Then you can loosen the chuck (after removing the ring)
and easily thread the screw stock into it and clamp down on the thread
having much more grip surface.

Or -- if you don't have soft jaws, take some aluminum of say 1"
OD (assuming your thread size is 1/2" or less), center drill it and
drill to tap size on the lathe while holding it in the 3-jaw chuck and
tap as before. Then remove from the chuck, and put a slitting saw in
your mill and cut a radial slit from the OD to the center hole. Now,
put it back in the lathe chuck, orient the slit directly opposite one of
the jaws, screw in your screw while it is loose, then tighten the chuck
to close the slit and grip the thread.

Enjoy,
DoN.

--
Email: <dnichols@d-and-d.com> | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564
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TOPIC: I brought home another toy today
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/7909885201f00459?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 7:38 pm
From: "Steve B"

"Jim Wilkins" <kb1dal@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e33c8262-ac0b-4bde-9f3b-735c95a1d716@l36g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 1, 12:02 am, "Steve B" <deserttrave...@dishynail.net> wrote:
> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net> wrote in
> messagenews:4BB4086D.82AB400A@earthlink.net...
> ...
>
> I used to like Husky tools. Until I bought a power washer that died after
> three uses, and no returns. So, in my opinion, Husky is shit. Although
> free makes it slightly more palatable.
>
> Steve

[dodging the flying bio-emissions]

I also have a 60 gallon Husky, bought cheap minus the compressor head
after it fell over somewhere. I put a Kellogg-American on it. Out of
curiosity I asked the Home Depot service desk about parts and was told
they couldn't get anything at all for it, in fact the store displays
had been stripped of small parts by angry customers.

jsw

There is a latin phrase that literally means "the facts speak for
themselves" something ipso something loquitor ..........

I would not buy a Husky #2 Phillips replacement bit.

Steve

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TOPIC: OT-Democrats host gunfight
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/c159ca960168a4d1?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 7:35 pm
From: "Steve B"

"Larry Jaques" <ljaques@diversify.invalid> wrote in message
news:umher5l3rcuu0hin1loqs30fhirgodqlrh@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 20:51:45 -0700, the infamous "azotic"
> <azotic@cox.net> scrawled the following:
>
>>42 shootings in 3 days.
>>
>>24 shootings in 24 hours.
>
> And only 2 dead. Demonrats are lousy shots, too, aren't they?
>
>
>>Democrats shure can run a city.
>>
>>http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/wgntv-shooting-west-englewood-police-apr2,0,4846642.story
>
> What a place to raise a President!
> Gentle breezes, clean voting, safe streets, nice mob.
> Uh, pass.
>
> --
> It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most
> intelligent,
> but the one most responsive to change.
> -- Charles
> Darwin

Twenty four shootings in two days, and two dead? I'd say it is definitely a
conspiracy, and Bush is to blame. No prudent person would think otherwise.

Steve

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 7:57 pm
From: "Buerste"

"Steve B" <deserttraveler@dishynail.net> wrote in message
news:sfal87-bf21.ln1@news.infowest.com...
>
> "Larry Jaques" <ljaques@diversify.invalid> wrote in message
> news:umher5l3rcuu0hin1loqs30fhirgodqlrh@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 20:51:45 -0700, the infamous "azotic"
>> <azotic@cox.net> scrawled the following:
>>
>>>42 shootings in 3 days.
>>>
>>>24 shootings in 24 hours.
>>
>> And only 2 dead. Demonrats are lousy shots, too, aren't they?
>>
>>
>>>Democrats shure can run a city.
>>>
>>>http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/wgntv-shooting-west-englewood-police-apr2,0,4846642.story
>>
>> What a place to raise a President!
>> Gentle breezes, clean voting, safe streets, nice mob.
>> Uh, pass.
>>
>> --
>> It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most
>> intelligent,
>> but the one most responsive to change.
>> -- Charles
>> Darwin
>
> Twenty four shootings in two days, and two dead? I'd say it is definitely
> a conspiracy, and Bush is to blame. No prudent person would think
> otherwise.
>
> Steve
>

I wonder if the NRA would set-up shooting classes? It sure would be in
everybody's interest that Democrats learn to shoot...it's OK, they are
shooting other Democrats. They need these:
http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/glock-gag.html

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TOPIC: Question: Metal Bending
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/e469d5ae68d2de28?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 7:43 pm
From: "DoN. Nichols"

On 2010-04-04, Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> wrote:
> Searcher7 wrote:
>> I am looking into getting a metal brake for making 90 degree bends
>> lengthwise in 24-3/8" long, 16(or possibly 14) gauge steel.

16 gauge is petty standard for serious brakes. That is what my
24" DiAcro has as its maximum. The Chinese imports (Harbor Freight and
the like) are probably limited to 18 gauge instead. For 14 gauge and
thicker, you are talking about *seriously* heavy equipment. :-) It was a
major task getting my 16 gauge 24" DiAcro up onto a workbench. Two
people siding it up a board ramp which was bowing significantly.

>> I'll also need something that will allow me to turn .005 to .020"
>> thick sheet metal into "U" channels with 1/4" sides.

And what *width* of 'U'?

>> Assuming that I'll need two different brakes for these two projects,
>> I'd appreciate any advice on the approximate size and cost of the
>> hardware I should be looking into.

> Why would you need two brakes? There are all
> sorts of brakes, but the most flexible are called
> finger brakes. Some only allow the side flages to
> stick up so far before the brake beam hits them.
> Others have a lot of clearance.

I don't think that a finger (or pan) brake would be very easy to
produce a U with 1/4" sides -- depending on just how *wide* it is. If
it is say an inch wide -- fine. When I hear 'U', I think of something
not as wide as it is tall (like the letter 'U' on my screen. :-)

If it is as wide as the side height (1/4") then that would not
work well at all -- unless he makes custom fingers for the brake.

> Newer models are in the press brake form, and have
> even more clearance than most finger brakes. But,
> these often can't go past 90 degrees with the
> standard die sets.

Again -- custom die set for the 'U'. Perhaps with a guide
included for the width of the stock prior to bending, so it remains
centered as the punch enters the die.

Enjoy,
DoN.

--
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TOPIC: OT: Looking for used B52 inner tubes
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/abfe3dc276505694?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 8:52 pm
From: spaco

Any of you guys know where I might find large aircraft inner tubes such
as for the B52?
I guess 747 inner tubes would work too.

Pete Stanaitis
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TOPIC: Working class
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/facb62633a2f2005?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 8:52 pm
From: Winston_Smith

hal wrote:

>The man went to Harvard. Something you could never have done.

Alas, I didn't have the mentors and political supporters he did.

__
WS in a.s and m.s
Two parties, not a dimes worth of difference.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 9:08 pm
From: Winston_Smith

hal wrote:
>On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 04:16:35 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote:

>>And the winner of the Chicken Dinner is.....Obama......... 8% !!!
>>
>>Yep! Thats right! Only 8% !!! ..... the least by far of the last 19
>>presidents!!
>
>Notice you don't provide a cite.

Here is 21,600 of them.

<http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=T+Roosevelt+38%25+Taft+40%25+Wilson++52%25+Harding+49%25+Coolidge+48%25+Hoover+42%25+F+Roosevelt+50%25+Truman+50%25+Eisenhower+7%25+Kennedy+30%25+Johnson+47%25+Nixon+53%25+Ford+42%25+Carter+32%25+Reagan+56%25+GH+Bush+51%25+Clinton+39%25+GW+Bush+55%25&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=>

How simple was that? This brings up the question - are 0bamaBots
* stupid
* helpless
* hard core liars

__
WS in a.s and m.s
Two parties, not a dimes worth of difference.

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