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TOPIC: 6 quarts of oil instead of 5, in my pickup
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/6f3afb5dee7a89fb?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 11:08 am
From: Yooper

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:46:41 -0500, Ignoramus4239 wrote:

> On 2010-03-19, Steve W. <csr684@NOTyahoo.com> wrote:
>> Ignoramus4239 wrote:
>>> On 2010-03-19, Steve W. <csr684@NOTyahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Ignoramus4239 wrote:

>
> Sorry, I meant 6 liter V8.
>

That's odd. I believe we have the same model truck (6.0 Liter)
and mine definitely takes 6 quarts with filter. Just looked in my
owners manual.

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TOPIC: CUNTER ASH-----Strom Thurmond was a liberal......How stupid is CUNTER?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/1e2a07d02c1cd3a5?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 12:15 pm
From: Gnome@cold.com

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:53:29 -0700, Jim Chandler <n427c@gte.net>
wrote:

>On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:13:15 -0700, Gnome@cold.com wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:00:42 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunnerasch@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>> Progressives, liberals, abolitionists (read liberals) were from the
>>>>> north, fought southern conservatives and eventually dictated the
>>>>> reconstruction of the South
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for the time. I wanted to know the extent of your ignorance.
>>>
>>>
>>>Looks like the dumb fuck was calling Lincoln (R) a Liberal Progressive.
>>
>>Gee, exactly what the history books call him
>>
>>SNICKER
>
>
>During the time of Lincoln the Republicans WERE the equivilent of
>today's Democraps.

Yes---IOW progressive/liberal

The ideology of the party(s) changed. There is a reason why a
republican simply could not be elected (very often) in the south after
the Civil war---Cunter just babbles on because party label is probably
easier for him to comprehend

There is a reason why Republicans TODAY can easily be elected in the
South---the switch of IDEOLOGY that began to embrace former southern
conservative demcratic political principles such as: "States rights",
"Jim Crow" Opposition to Desegregation, opposition to voter rights,
womens rights, gay rights, civil rights, childrens rights, workers
rights, equal opportunity, equality (of all kinds)

Cunter has no argument other than his usual vacuous sillyness.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 12:56 pm
From: Strabo

Gnome@cold.com wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:53:29 -0700, Jim Chandler <n427c@gte.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:13:15 -0700, Gnome@cold.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:00:42 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunnerasch@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Progressives, liberals, abolitionists (read liberals) were from the
>>>>>> north, fought southern conservatives and eventually dictated the
>>>>>> reconstruction of the South
>>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the time. I wanted to know the extent of your ignorance.
>>>>
>>>> Looks like the dumb fuck was calling Lincoln (R) a Liberal Progressive.
>>> Gee, exactly what the history books call him
>>>
>>> SNICKER
>>
>> During the time of Lincoln the Republicans WERE the equivilent of
>> today's Democraps.
>
> Yes---IOW progressive/liberal
>
> The ideology of the party(s) changed. There is a reason why a
> republican simply could not be elected (very often) in the south after
> the Civil war---Cunter just babbles on because party label is probably
> easier for him to comprehend
>
> There is a reason why Republicans TODAY can easily be elected in the
> South---the switch of IDEOLOGY that began to embrace former southern
> conservative demcratic political principles such as: "States rights",
> "Jim Crow" Opposition to Desegregation, opposition to voter rights,
> womens rights, gay rights, civil rights, childrens rights, workers
> rights, equal opportunity, equality (of all kinds)
>
> Cunter has no argument other than his usual vacuous sillyness.
>

It is good that you wear the Communist mantle with pride.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 11:59 am
From: Hawke

>> There is a reason why Republicans TODAY can easily be elected in the
>> South---the switch of IDEOLOGY that began to embrace former southern
>> conservative demcratic political principles such as: "States rights",
>> "Jim Crow" Opposition to Desegregation, opposition to voter rights,
>> womens rights, gay rights, civil rights, childrens rights, workers
>> rights, equal opportunity, equality (of all kinds)
>>
>> Cunter has no argument other than his usual vacuous sillyness.
>>
>
> It is good that you wear the Communist mantle with pride.

You must be equally as proud being that you're a Communist too.

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TOPIC: What is it? Set 328
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/e57e89c6bd2db660?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 11:42 am
From: "Rob H."

> I noticed you said they found it in a field? Sort of a strange place to
> find that, but they have been around a long time. Maybe a grass fire or
> a house on the land years ago.
>
> --
> Steve W.

Yes, I don't think they'll ever find out how it got there but at least now
they know what it is, thanks to everyone who answered this one.

Four of the six have been identified this week, still not sure about the
second item, the answers for this set can be seen here:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/03/set-328.html#answers

Hope everyone enjoys the first weekend of Spring!

Rob

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TOPIC: What sort of surface plate is this?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/c2e43cb2e443c86d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 11:48 am
From: Gunner Asch

On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:31:32 -0500, john <amdinc@intergrafix.net> wrote:

>stu wrote:
>> <pentagrid@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:cu3np5la85p48d0vchp58tos9do4fun5me@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:55:17 +1100, "stu"<no where just yet>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've just posted a picture in http://www.metalworking.com/Dropbox called
>>>> "stusplate"(is it the done thing to put a direct link here?)
>>>> As you can see from the reflection of newpaper, the surface has a very
>>>> fine
>>>> finish like no surface plate I have ever seen. It comes in a felt lined
>>>> lockable box. Does anyone have any idea what this sort of plate is?
>>>>
>>> Could be an optical flat. Your jpg doesn't show the size.
>>> Inspection grade optical flats are typically 5 or 6" dia and
>>> polished flat to within a fraction of the wavelength of green
>>> light.
>>>
>>> Jim
>> So that would be pretty flat then lol
>> I have two, one is 170mm(7inches) x 35mm(1.5inches) thick. The other is
>> 220mm(9inches) x 35mm(1.5inches)they are labeled "precison plate"
>> I thought about optical flats but I thought they were made from
>> glass?(although I'm not even sure I've ever seen an optical flat)
>>
>>
>
>
>YOu could probably sell that and use the money to get a good granite
>surface place and have change left for a cup of coffee or two. :)
>
>Its way overkill for most anything you would normally want to do unless
>you wanted to make yourself a set of "A" quality precision gauge blocks.
>
>John

Need surface plates? I still have 4 of them available for cheap.

18x24s, Standrich and 2 of them are A plates.

Really cheap.

Gunner, Central and Southern Cal.

"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

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TOPIC: Rush to flee US
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/589453ba81b739ca?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 11:53 am
From: Gunner Asch

On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 09:02:45 -0700, "Bill Noble"
<nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

>
>
>"Larry Jaques" <ljaques@diversify.invalid> wrote in message
>news:pcupp59u5dt79t98jt18qngfqvjtb8scvh@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 03:20:32 -0700 (PDT), the infamous Andrew VK3BFA
>> <VK3BFA@wia.org.au> scrawled the following:
>
>bunch of mindless junk snipped

Only when a Leftist defines it.

Shrug

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 12:54 pm
From: Steve Ackman

In <a11f5b20-47f4-4608-84e6-9acaa7231fe2@k4g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, on
Tue, 16 Mar 2010 05:04:17 -0700 (PDT), Andrew VK3BFA, VK3BFA@wia.org.au
wrote:

> Have you read your constitution
> Do you understand your system of governance.

It's a Constitutional Republic.

> Do you believe in democracy.

Absolutely not, nor did any of the founding fathers.

--
☯☯

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TOPIC: Semi-Metal Related... Water Softeners and Pipes...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/a43fdd4c494dded2?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 11:55 am
From: Steve Ackman

In <IcMon.34082$NH1.11026@newsfe14.iad>, on Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:52:08
-0400, Joe AutoDrill, autodrill@yunx.com wrote:

> Secondly... Is there an in-line filtering system that removes the dissolved
> impurities in the water thus removing the need for a softener in the first
> place?
>
> My motto is "salt is bad!" so... There.

What everyone else said, plus...

A softener simply exchanges a less soluble salt for
a more soluble salt. Let's say the salt in your well
is calcium carbonate. The softener, containing either
sodium chloride or potassium chloride, exchanges the
ions so you end up with sodium carbonate or potassium
carbonate in your water instead of calcium carbonate.
The sodium/potassium carbonate is much more soluble, so
doesn't build up hard mineral deposits, and when it
even comes out of solution at all, is easily re-
dissolved and washed away.

If you're worried about sodium when you say "salt"
then using potassium chloride in your softener puts
"anti-salt" in your water. (Fast and loose with the
terminology, but that's more or less the effect.)

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_in_biology

The 2004 guidelines of the Institute of Medicine specify an RDA of
4700mg of potassium for adults[citation needed], based on intake levels
that have been found to lower blood pressure, reduce salt sensitivity, and
minimize the risk of kidney stones. However, most Americans consume only
half that amount per day.[2] Similarly, in the European Union,
particularly in Germany and Italy, insufficient potassium intake is
widespread.[3]

Reverse Osmosis is good for removing minerals from
water, and with heavily softened water is often used
after the softener, but demineralized water is quite
flavorless (ever drunk distilled water?). Extensive
taste tests show that the most preferred coffee is
made with water containing around 150 mg of total
dissolved solids (TDS)... so while it might seem
intuitive that "pure" water is best for cooking
purposes, that's certainly not the case with coffee.

--
☯☯

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 12:29 pm
From: "Joe AutoDrill"

> Reverse Osmosis is good for removing minerals from
> water, and with heavily softened water is often used
> after the softener, but demineralized water is quite
> flavorless (ever drunk distilled water?). Extensive
> taste tests show that the most preferred coffee is
> made with water containing around 150 mg of total
> dissolved solids (TDS)... so while it might seem
> intuitive that "pure" water is best for cooking
> purposes, that's certainly not the case with coffee.

Again, excellent info. Thank you.

Now... Guess what I dislike almost as much as salt?

I drink coffee only when I'm VERY tired, and then it's black and strong so
as to wake me up via caffiene and horrible taste. :)
--

Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022
01.908.542.0244
Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com
Production Tapping: http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/
Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-N-Tap.com
VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill

V8013-R

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TOPIC: Source for 4340 bar stock?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/670786a6a14e58b2?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 11:58 am
From: Gunner Asch

On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 10:22:33 -0500, Louis Ohland <ohland@charter.net>
wrote:

>On 3/14/2010 09:55, Snag wrote:
>> Wes wrote:
>>> Louis Ohland<ohland@charter.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> What are you making?
>>>>> Andrew VK3BFA.
>>>>
>>>> Small rifle action @ 22LR / 5mm / 22WMR / 22 K Hornet
>>>
>>> What type of action?
>>>
>>> Wes
>>
>> Enquiring minds want to know !
>>
>
>It's a bit odd. A cylindrical falling block design from Bill Holmes.
>Roughly 1" wide, 2" tall, 4" long. The falling block, er, shaft, is
>.750" diameter.
>
>I was talking to my neighbor about it, and there may be some EDM and
>heat treating shops in the ares. EDM would make a rectangular falling
>block so much easier.

Post lots of pictures as you progress. Id love to see its building.

Gunner

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

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TOPIC: OT More examples of generosity from President Obama
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/e33e3d4c5b5a6f9e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 12:01 pm
From: Hawke

>> Reverting to the community clinic model would take a helluva lot of
>> the stress off doctors and emergency rooms. Those have practically
>> disappeared in my lifetime. I remember the $5 doctor visits when I
>> was a sick post-teen, for flu/STD checks/her Pill/stitches.
>>
>> Here's what they have nowadays in Vista, CA.
>> http://fwd4.me/IKW complete with marble-stepped 25' wide spiral
>> stairway to the second level.
>
> You ought to get out more Larry.
> http://www.vistacommunityclinic.org/Locations.html
>
> You'd look less the fool.
>
> JC

I'm afraid that getting out wouldn't be of much help to him in that dept.

Hawke

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TOPIC: OT be careful driving through Illinoisstan
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/9c17389b1e9d1a9c?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 12:09 pm
From: Gunner Asch

On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 01:26:56 -0400, "Buerste" <buerste@buerste.com>
wrote:

>
>"Don Foreman" <dforeman@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> wrote in message
>news:f8drp51dhq64dlkqe2rfmnmoi3vav6f4l6@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:21:08 -0500, Ignoramus27323
>> <ignoramus27323@NOSPAM.27323.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>I want to report my recent sightings, that, in my interpretation,
>>>indicate much increased police activity towards fining motorists.
>>>
>>>1. The recent story with near impounding of my perfectly legal
>>>trailer.
>>>
>>>2. Today I had to drive 15 miles on a highway and back, twice. (took
>>>my son to a sunday school where he learns Lego robotics). I saw at
>>>least 8 state police cars with speed radar guns, and 5 or so ones
>>>in the process of stopping motorists.This is a very unusual number.
>>>
>>>The state of IL is near insolvency, and many municipalities are in a
>>>bad financial condition also, desperate to raise money in any way they
>>>can.
>>>
>>>This is my explanation for this high level of police looking for
>>>someone to fine. From now on, I will be driving at the speed limit
>>>speed until I see some changes.
>>>
>>>i
>>
>> Suffer stoicly while driving lawfully until enforcement abates.
>>
>
>I must be low on Testosterone, I always drive the speed limit, keep a safe
>distance, obey all the laws and drive defensively. But, I see a big
>increase in enforcement. I'm glad there are so many volunteers to pay THAT
>tax so that I don't have to.
>

Same here. Though I did get a "fix it ticket" for a busted windshield
Im going to have to get replaced by April 4

Gunner

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

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TOPIC: DIY Two-Stroke Engine Construction Methods
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/7e49cf5c0ea97580?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 12:23 pm
From: Fred the Red Shirt

On Mar 18, 2:47 pm, Grider Pirate <james.d.wynh...@saic.com> wrote:
> On Mar 16, 4:48 pm, durabol <durabo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the responses.
>
> > -I planned to have one carburetor (and crankcase) for both cylinders.
>
> Shared carb and crankcase locks you into simultaneous firing of the
> two opposing cylinders
>

Not necessarily. What you describe is commonly called a 'boxer'
configuration.

You can also alternate the cylinders. That can simplify a lot, for
instance
the cylinders can be joined to a common, rigid scottish yoke. That
will
also vibrate horribly and probably shake itself apart. But people
have
tried it, google for Bourke engine, which has a small cult-like
following
on line.

Maybe if you configured a Bourke with multiple banks of 2-cylinders
each, rotating each bank around the crank by 360/n degrees, where
n is the number of cylinders, that would smooth out the vibration
issue.
The result would be a sort of 2-stroke radial.

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TOPIC: Crappy tools
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/0f57b1503fb9e64b?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 12:32 pm
From: "Stu Fields"

"Gunner Asch" <gunnerasch@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jed7q5hj5aoki0hetqog00i31mag304t9e@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:48:18 -0500, clare@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>
>>My wife and daughters bought me a 1/2 hammerdrill for my
>>birthday/fathers day last June.
>>
>>I used it a couple times last summer/fall, and then today I wanted to
>>use it to drill a 1 1/2 hole in a spruce 2X8. Put it in low gear (for
>>the first time) and founf out there were teeth missing on a gear
>>somewhere. Just a lot of noise, and no drive.
>>
>>It was a Black and Decker DR650-ca -= 6.5 amp unit that They paid $80
>>for.(on sale).
>>
>>Took it back to Canadian Tire where they bought it, and they don't
>>carry it any more. After a lot of hassle, I paid the difference ($20)
>>to get a Porter Cable PC650 - looked like virtually the same drill
>>except for the location of the reverse switch.
>>
>>I gor ONE HOLE drilled, and noticed something poking out through the
>>side of the drive gear case which LOOKED like it was aluminum, but was
>>in fact aluminized chrappy plastic.
>>
>>Looks like I'll have to cruise the Garage sales this spring and try to
>>find myself a 30 year old half inch drill - - - - - - .
>>The one the B&D replaced was almost 50 years old and had been used
>>professionally by my dad as an electrical contractor for about 35
>>years of that until his retirement. In hindsight, I should have spent
>>whatever it took to have it rewound instead of scrapping it. (It just
>>up and quit one day when I was using it - let the magic smoke out)
>
> Hunt around for a used Hilti, . Ebay is good for this
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-HILTI-TE1-TE-1-ROTARY-CONCRETE-HAMMER-DRILL-CORDED_W0QQitemZ260567770235QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Hammer_Drills?hash=item3cab0ca47b
> http://cgi.ebay.com/HILTI-TE15-ROTARY-HAMMER-DRILL-w-CHUCK-ADAPTER_W0QQitemZ230448611603QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Hammer_Drills?hash=item35a7cec113
>
>
Totally agree with Gunner. After trying several hammer drills for drilling
holes in concrete, the Hilti far outshown all the others that I tried. It
is a trade-off of how many cuss words and time are worth how much money.

Stu

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TOPIC: It Ran!!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/ccd43c7e9a708da7?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 12:33 pm
From: Tim Wescott

Steve W. wrote:
> Tim Wescott wrote:
>> I just spent the last thirty minutes turning a burnt out Cox 049 glow
>> head into a glow plug adapter. Put it on an engine (with a glow plug,
>> of course), and it ran!
>>
>> Well, at least it ran out the prime. I haven't tried it with actual
>> fuel in the tank -- I'll want to do something more than just hold it in
>> my hand for that. I'm 99.44% sure that it won't run as well as before,
>> because it started out as a low-compression head, and the plug will
>> lower the compression further (hence my sudden anal retentiveness about
>> CCing heads).
>>
>> Tomorrow I'll go see if it'll actually fly an airplane. Then maybe I'll
>> think about how to turn some billet aluminum into a head.
>>
>> Which means I'll have to make a special threading tool, so's I can
>> thread right up to the edge of the fins. And a special fin-cutting
>> tool, and a ...
>>
>
> You do know that you can play with the fuel mix to get better power with
> the lower compression? Just add some more Nitro.
> We used to run a 40% Nitro, 30% Castor/Synthetic and 30% methanol blend
> in the race engines. BUT you needed the low compression head AND a
> couple of extra head gaskets to drop it a bit more.
> Made much better torque and would spin a 4 inch prop great.
>
I know -- at this point I'd rather make up a bunch of heads (and round
up all my head gaskets) and experiment with low nitro fuel. This isn't
some whippy-zing racing effort, I'm just playing with engines.

Maybe after I know more I'll play with higher nitro.

--
Tim Wescott
Control system and signal processing consulting
www.wescottdesign.com

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TOPIC: OT: awsome gadget - neat machine
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/0360845d7d44226a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 12:37 pm
From: Gunner Asch

On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:17:54 +0800, "Royston Vasey" <royston@vasey.com>
wrote:

>Someone else posted this link somewhere else. It's half on topic......very
>impressive little machine, pity they dont show close ups of the
>construction:
>
>
>
>Like RC helis? This Hexacopter is amazing:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyYujjP5J-k
>

Oh my god...gotta have one..gotta have one!!

Gunner, who just picked his next hobby!

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

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TOPIC: I got a stalker
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/c4abe78c4ec1cac2?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 12:39 pm
From: Gunner Asch

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wrote:

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>On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 06:21:16 -0500, Pong Lrick wrote:
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>>
>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:75528783-f24f-4fb2-a028-3b2a25f130f9@v20g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Mar 15, 11:07 pm, "The Real Steve B" <ne...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>> Apparently, someone has been using my name and munged e mail addy to make
>>>> some rude vulgar posts in newsgroups. So, I have changed some of my info
>>>> to
>>>> bypass this clown.
>>>>
>>>> If you have me killfiled, do it again if you want. Or read a few of my
>>>> posts. I've toned down since being sick.
>>>>
>>>> If you know how to do it, trace the paths of this stalker, and compare it
>>>> to
>>>> my long history of posts here, and you will see that they are not the
>>>> same.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone can copy your information into their ACCOUNTS tab and imitate
>>>> anyone.
>>>>
>>>> The Real Steve B, in Utah
>>>
>>> Only one? ;<)
>>>
>>> At times it seems like I have the whole insane asylum following me
>>> around Usenet.
>>>
>>> TMT
>>
>> Naw, it was just your two mommies. It seems like a whole lot more because
>> they are both so fat.
>
>Yea, But this stalker scares me. He knows what a liar and dipshit I really
>am.
>
>The real Steve B. will be posting Political bullshit for you all to enjoy
>here in the metalworking group because he is made fun of at political
>groups. Keep your eye open for this dumby and his copy and paste crap.
>"Mighty Casey" comes to mind as the latest bullshit post.
>
> The Real Stevey B. in Utah
>Now I will go wash my face because of the tears that are smearing my
>makeup. The real steve B. The B is for butthole by the way.
>I'm the one that knows all about metalworking too.
>
>HA! Ha! Ha! So there! Made you look!

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

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TOPIC: Porta Band Saw blades. Lenox vs. Milwaukie
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/947f7ff31158a750?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 12:43 pm
From: Gunner Asch

On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:50:03 -0700 (PDT), Pirate
<over40pirate.aol.com@gmail.com> wrote:

>I lucked into a PorterCable Porta Band Saw for $10 at a yard sale :-)
>Locally I can get Milwaukie or Lenox blades for it. They are from
>Lowes and HD, and I don't know the model #'s of the Lenox blades.
>Any experience out there on either blades?
>Also tooth count? I will mostly be cutting 1/8" to 1/4" steel.
>Thanks

YOU SUCK!!!!

Gunner

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

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TOPIC: MAchine shop auction
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/74065dde7770acd4?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 1:04 pm
From: Gunner Asch

On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:24:03 -0700, Jim Chandler <n427c@gte.net> wrote:

>
>
>Anyone interested in a Bridgeport mill, or other metal working tools
>and who lives near Southern California may want to check out the
>auction site at www.highdesertauction.com. I am in no way involved
>with either the auction house or the seller. Just thought someone
>might be interested.

Which reminds me....I picked up a Lagun FT-v mill, (Bridgeport type
mill..which I prefer OVER bridgeports)

Its available in Santa Ana, California.

$1500. Its in pretty good shape <G>

Gunner

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

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TOPIC: my house smells...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/37a58a23cd7639ad?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 1:10 pm
From: Gunner Asch

On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:04:27 +0800, "Royston Vasey" <royston@vasey.com>
wrote:

>
>"Karl Townsend" <karltownsend.NOT@embarqmail.com> wrote in message
>news:4ba0f889$0$65859$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.octanews.com...
>> Talking to "The Kid" this morning, I found out his lady thinks my house
>> smells "like a shop"
>>
>> That's a compliment, isn't it?
>>
>> BTW, set a small record of sorts this morning. Had the CNC mill, CNC
>> lathe, bandsaw, and manual mill all smokin' chips at the same time. I was
>> as busy as a three pecker billy goat feedin' parts.
>>
>> Karl
>>
>>
>
>I remember my old man coming home from work 40+ years ago (when I was a
>young kid) with that "maching shop smell", a neat memory.
>
>
I was standing in line at the bank a few years ago, and this incredibly
hot, sexy and utterly georgous gal was behind me sniffing..and I turned
around and she blushed and smiled. Asked if I worked in a machine
shop? I replied as I puffed out my chest.."yes, I fix those machines".

She smiled up at me and said "I thought so!...you smell just like my
dad!"

Then..."He is 80 now"

(sounds of johnson schriveling into a tiny bud)

Sigh

Gunner

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

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TOPIC: Eklind hexagon keys
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/6fc88807e0e8f5b4?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 1:16 pm
From: Gunner Asch

On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:49:22 +0000, Christopher Tidy
<cdt22NOSPAM@cantabgold.net> wrote:

>Hi folks,
>
>Anyone own a set of Eklind hexagon keys? If so, what do you think of
>their accuracy and durability? I notice they're made in Illinois, pretty
>close to Igor I think.
>
>I want a set of hexagon keys that are long arm and come in a box or
>sturdy holder, not on a keyring (I hate those rings). I've got a set by
>CK, which are fine in terms of quality, but the ring connections broke
>and it was awkward anyway. Eklind offer a set in a plastic holder.
>That's not quite ideal, as I'd prefer a metal box, so if anyone knows of
>a better brand available in Europe, I'd be interested to hear.
>
>Many thanks,
>
>Chris

you mean "allen" wrenches?

Ecllind, Allen, Bondhus are the most common ones here in the US, with my
personal choice going first for Bondhus, then Allen, then Ecklind, but
only because Ive used far more Bondhus than Eclind. They are ALL 3,
excellent "wrenches"

Gunner, who only buys "ball end"..as they will over a number of years,
often convert themselves to standard end...particularly after
application of a snipe.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 1:23 pm
From: Gunner Asch

On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:08:15 -0500, Wes <clutch@lycos.com> wrote:

>Christopher Tidy <cdt22NOSPAM@cantabgold.net> wrote:
>
>>> Pull on the key while turning it as if unwinding the spring that
>>> holds it, and it will come right off. To put it back on the ring,
>>> push on it while turning the same direction.
>>
>>I used to do this, but found that after I'd removed and replaced the
>>keys I use most often a few times, the spring connection to the ring
>>broke. The spring which fits around the key is pretty tight on the CK sets.
>
>The plastic caddies tend to get loose also. Kinda anoying to get to where you are going
>to work carrying the things and find you lost a key on the way. DAMHIKT!
>
>Wes

When your storebought holder finally loosens up..go to any good Tool
store and pick up those coin shaped yellow holders..about 2" in diameter
with a small spring that goes all the way around it. Get em in Metric
and Standard. Bout $3.50 each,

Cant remember the name at the moment, but thats all I use on the job.
Works great, tough, handy and keeps the wrenches in place just fine.

Someone help with the name and a link? Or do I have to go out to the
truck?

Gunner

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

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TOPIC: OT: CNC Paper & Plastic
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/d0fc9c7d29a91da1?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 1:36 pm
From: Jon Elson

Bob La Londe wrote:
> Yeah, the labelers are nice for some applications. I've been using the
> bigger P-Touch and Rhino labelers for years. This is in a professional
> office, and I was going to try for a little nicer application if I can.
> It doesn't hurt that this is one of the nicest easiest to work with
> clients I have done business with in years and I WANT to do a little
> better job for them.
The stuff I use for larger labels is from VPC, it is a photo-exposed
transfer that gets laminated, so the image is on the back side of the
clear cover sheet.
See http://www.vpcinc.com/Products/dynamark.htm
You can get it in a wide range of colors, I use their darker blue.
You need a way to make a sharp, dense master on a clear film. Lots of
people use a laser printer on transparency film. I have a laser
photoplotter I built, so I use that, it is dimensionally accurate to a
couple thousandths of an inch, so I know the artwork wull line up with
buttons, indicators, connectors, etc. on a CNC machined panel. Most
modern laser printers are pretty good at registration, though, much
better than years ago.

Jon

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TOPIC: What steel for pry bars?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/bcce4853edaf59b5?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 1:36 pm
From: Gunner Asch

On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:58:50 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
<bobengelhardt@comcast.net> wrote:

>OK, from what Ed & Tim said, I do want something harder than mild steel,
>so that it won't "yield" as soon as mild steel would.
>
>As to heat treating facilities, well, minimal - maximum heat capability
>is propane forge. Obviously no automatic temp control.
>
>As to what I'm making: it's for taking down tin ceilings. The ceilings
> will be salvaged, so the specifics of the tool are needed to minimize
>damage. The bar needs to be about 16" long, to reach over the back of a
>24" tile. It needs to have a long taper, coming to a thin edge, to work
>under the nails without distorting the tin. One edge needs to be 3/4"
>wide to fit into a nailing space. One end will be straight & the other
>have a 90 degree leg. It will be pulling out 1" long 16 ga nails, so it
>won't have to be very strong - I'm thinking 1/16" thick (from trials
>with a 1/16" thick putty knife).
>
>If it wasn't for the length, I would re-shape the putty knife. Which
>suggests brazing or silver soldering the knife on a longer handle - is
>that doable? How about a 90 bend in it - I assume that would require
>heating to bend, quenching, and tempering?
>
>Thanks,
>Bob

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