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TOPIC: Almost Alice
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/5e2f1cc6cf0f2658?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 9 2010 2:52 pm
From: "David R.Birch"

Steve B wrote:
> "Gunner Asch" <gunnerasch@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:d88cp5pa2118jkmh8eaqdrov6j6kpe8ofe@4ax.com...
>> Not bad..not bad at all....
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/user/hollywoodrecords#p/a/u/1/sUsyF8E2qd4
>>
>>
>> Gunner
>
> Ahhh. Shades of Grace Slick, The Airplane, and
> Hashbury....................... If I could only remember .............

1969 Madison, UW Field House, Hot Tuna opened for the Airplane
featuring Papa John Creach.

Feed your head.

David

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 9 2010 3:11 pm
From: RBnDFW

Jon Danniken wrote:
> Gunner Asch wrote:
>> Now for the Real Grace Slick and the original version of White
>> Rabbit..
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WANNqr-vcx0
>
> Now *that's* the real stuff! Rockstar kids can dress up vintage and go for
> the "retro" vibe, but it's just window dressing.
>
> On a related note, I notice very little modern rock music in commercials
> these days. While some may argue that they are just playing to the
> (generational) demographic, I think the overwhelming factor is that they
> just don't make it like they used to. Modern music sounds flat, and just
> doesn't have the soul that the old stuff did.

Or maybe we're just tuning out the new stuff as "noise" and only hearing
what we recognize as Real Music <G>

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 9 2010 4:40 pm
From: cavelamb

She looks like she's maybe 15 - and trying hard not to grin.

earlier last century...

Richard Lamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 9 2010 5:12 pm
From: Wes

Gunner Asch <gunnerasch@gmail.com> wrote:

>Not bad..not bad at all....
>
>http://www.youtube.com/user/hollywoodrecords#p/a/u/1/sUsyF8E2qd4

Sorry bud, she is trying but she just isn't in Grace Slicks league. I had to bail at the
halfway point. Not as a bad as Aerosmiths rendition of "Come Together" though.

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

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TOPIC: Question about tunnel digging...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/1a0f3f28abe4575a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 9 2010 2:59 pm
From: Bob Engelhardt

Ecnerwal wrote:
> You might actually check your library - it's the standard reference in the field.

Oh, you're right ... kind of. Our library itself doesn't have it, but
the consortium of 20 or so towns that it's in, does. Not that I'm that
interested in reading it <G>.

Bob

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TOPIC: Buretting a very small volume.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/18dc2527a8a06e7b?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 9 2010 3:20 pm
From: Tim Wescott

Pete Snell wrote:
> Tim Wescott wrote:
>> I want to CC a few Cox 049 heads, but none of them are going to
>> contain more than a fraction of a CC of volume.
>>
>> Anyone know how to do this when the volume to be measured isn't that
>> much larger than the volume in a drop of light oil? I'm thinking
>> maybe a small syringe, complete with needle, filled with mineral
>> spirits, really really light oil, or rubbing alcohol.
>>
>> But I'm open to suggestions.
>>
>
> I've done this many times with larger engines, but nothing that
> small. I think the suggestion to carefully weigh the head empty and full
> with a good scale is a good one. Alternatively, maybe you could 'cast'
> something into the chamber, cut it off flush, pull out the plug and
> weigh it? Jello? Everybody likes Jello!
>
> As another suggestion, can you fill the combustion chamber with the
> engine assembled and with the piston at TDC? This is the standard way of
> doing it with a smaller engine, and it reduces the number of
> measurements and calculations needed to find the true combustion chamber
> volume, which results in better accuracy when calculating compression
> ratios.

Good suggestions, but --

It's a two-stroke glow engine and the stock heads have a built-in glow
element, rather than a separate glow plug.

So casting with jello is out, because it'll stick in the element,
there's no way to access the top of the cylinder without drilling holes
in a stock head (no way!) etc., etc. That's me. Tim The Naysayer.

At this point I'm most interested in duplicating the volume of the
original head; slight errors in the absolute compression ratio that I
calculate as long as I get the _actual_ compression ratio close enough
for things to work.

--
Tim Wescott
Control system and signal processing consulting
www.wescottdesign.com

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 9 2010 4:04 pm
From: axolotl

On 3/9/2010 6:20 PM, Tim Wescott wrote:

> At this point I'm most interested in duplicating the volume of the
> original head; slight errors in the absolute compression ratio that I
> calculate as long as I get the _actual_ compression ratio close enough
> for things to work.
>

If what you want is compression, why not build a manometer and measure that?

Kevin Gallimore

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 9 2010 4:53 pm
From: Gunner Asch

On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:20:31 -0800, Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.now>
wrote:

>Pete Snell wrote:
>> Tim Wescott wrote:
>>> I want to CC a few Cox 049 heads, but none of them are going to
>>> contain more than a fraction of a CC of volume.
>>>
>>> Anyone know how to do this when the volume to be measured isn't that
>>> much larger than the volume in a drop of light oil? I'm thinking
>>> maybe a small syringe, complete with needle, filled with mineral
>>> spirits, really really light oil, or rubbing alcohol.
>>>
>>> But I'm open to suggestions.
>>>
>>
>> I've done this many times with larger engines, but nothing that
>> small. I think the suggestion to carefully weigh the head empty and full
>> with a good scale is a good one. Alternatively, maybe you could 'cast'
>> something into the chamber, cut it off flush, pull out the plug and
>> weigh it? Jello? Everybody likes Jello!
>>
>> As another suggestion, can you fill the combustion chamber with the
>> engine assembled and with the piston at TDC? This is the standard way of
>> doing it with a smaller engine, and it reduces the number of
>> measurements and calculations needed to find the true combustion chamber
>> volume, which results in better accuracy when calculating compression
>> ratios.
>
>Good suggestions, but --
>
>It's a two-stroke glow engine and the stock heads have a built-in glow
>element, rather than a separate glow plug.
>
>So casting with jello is out, because it'll stick in the element,
>there's no way to access the top of the cylinder without drilling holes
>in a stock head (no way!) etc., etc. That's me. Tim The Naysayer.
>
>At this point I'm most interested in duplicating the volume of the
>original head; slight errors in the absolute compression ratio that I
>calculate as long as I get the _actual_ compression ratio close enough
>for things to work.

You could always cast a slug in the head using cerocast and then melt it
back out. Wont hurt the glow plugs.

Measure the CCs or MMs of the cerocast

Gunner

"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

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TOPIC: Hoo Boy!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/750e62ba6209da1d?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 9 2010 3:31 pm
From: Wes

"Steve B" <deserttraver@fishymail.net> wrote:

>My right hearing aid would cancel out the sound, and I could listen to the
>TV. My left one didn't, and amplified the fire alarm. Just about used my
>Depends when it came on.
>
>Guess they need another $150 tune up.

If only the freqency of my tinitus in my left ear could be fed back 180 out of phase and
at same amplitude.

Wes

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 9 2010 3:36 pm
From: Lewis Hartswick

Winston wrote:
> On 3/9/2010 6:40 AM, Joe wrote:
>> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 22:27:22 -0800, "Steve B"
>> <deserttraver@fishymail.net> wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>> If I had known hearing aids were so good, I'd have gotten some five
>>> years
>>> earlier, too.
>>
>>
>> People were probably telling you all about the benefits of hearing
>> aids for years. Just one problem, though...<g>
>>
>> Joe
>
> What?

HuH? What's that you say???? :-)

>
> :)
>
> --Winston

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 9 2010 3:49 pm
From: Winston

On 3/9/2010 3:31 PM, Wes wrote:
> "Steve B"<deserttraver@fishymail.net> wrote:
>
>> My right hearing aid would cancel out the sound, and I could listen to the
>> TV. My left one didn't, and amplified the fire alarm. Just about used my
>> Depends when it came on.
>>
>> Guess they need another $150 tune up.
>
> If only the freqency of my tinitus in my left ear could be fed back 180 out of phase and
> at same amplitude.

Me, too.

As a youngster, I recall sitting in the parking lot of a local astronomical
observatory and marveling at the complete absence of sound.

I really miss that.

--Winston

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TOPIC: DIY Two-Stroke Engine
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/bcf5d37475198771?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 9 2010 3:56 pm
From: clare@snyder.on.ca

On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 04:36:58 -0800 (PST), Jim Wilkins
<kb1dal@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mar 8, 11:55 pm, Tim Wescott <t...@seemywebsite.now> wrote:
>> ...
>> >www.deltahawk.com
>
>> That link redirects to a poster site.
>> Tim Wescott
>
>http://www.deltahawkengines.com/
>
>Any day now.....
>
>jsw
For the last 10 years.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 9 2010 4:59 pm
From: "Morgans"

"bod43" <Bod43@hotmail.co.uk> wrote

> www.deltahawk.com
>
> Too big for ultralight I would guess but seems like
> a very fine plan for a light aircraft engine.

> Expected to be accepted as a FAA certified
> aero engine this year.

I'll believe it when I see that the first 25 are sold and flying. It has
been ready for production for the past 10 or more years, yet, it always a
year away from being released for production.

Hint: I'll win this bet.
--
Jim in NC

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 9 2010 5:02 pm
From: "Stu Fields"

<clare@snyder.on.ca> wrote in message
news:12odp5ttqk1bjmtjdm5mg13teoq66oe67u@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 04:36:58 -0800 (PST), Jim Wilkins
> <kb1dal@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mar 8, 11:55 pm, Tim Wescott <t...@seemywebsite.now> wrote:
>>> ...
>>> >www.deltahawk.com
>>
>>> That link redirects to a poster site.
>>> Tim Wescott
>>
>>http://www.deltahawkengines.com/
>>
>>Any day now.....
>>
>>jsw
> For the last 10 years.

Surprise, Surprise. There is a two seat experimental Helicopter in
Australia that is undergoing flight tests as I write this. It is using the
Deltahawk two stroke diesel engine. see www.deltahelicopters.com.au
Unfortunately the Deltahawk engines are priced right up there with the long
time proven Lycomings. It will take some time to really see if this engine
will demonstrate all the potential advantages inherent in the diesel
concept.

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TOPIC: Magnets
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/fd312a0cf0275bfb?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 9 2010 4:07 pm
From: Bob Gentry

On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 20:25:44 -0600, "Henry"
<ohenry@razbanyisiatibenefuchi.com> wrote:

>Does anyone have a good source for some really tiny, but powerful magnets,
>preferably all weather type?

Take a look at:

http://www.amazingmagnets.com/

Just a satisfied customer :)

Bob
rgentry at oz dot net

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TOPIC: Do urethane caster wheels deform over time under load
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/e2e5e86cd986b598?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 9 2010 4:12 pm
From: Brian Lawson

On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:47:24 -0600, Ignoramus17831
<ignoramus17831@NOSPAM.17831.invalid> wrote:

>This question is of great interest to me. If, say, I has a 1500 lb
>rated caster with a urethane wheel, would it deform under 800 lb
>load, enough to make it troublesome to move. Thanks
>
>i

Hey Iggy,

My take on it is that is very specific to the compound formula. We
had urethane roller guides on elevators that after a few years would
get little flat spots just when they sat over a weekend in an office
building and didn't move. First thing on Monday morning they would
rumble like crazy but then smooth out after the first 5 or 6 runs.
These problem ones were then replaced by another urethane product that
didn't have that problem. So it's in the exact formula, and I don't
know how you would find that out without some plain old empirical
testing.

Take care.

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 9 2010 4:25 pm
From: "Buerste"

"Ignoramus17831" <ignoramus17831@NOSPAM.17831.invalid> wrote in message
news:crednQrXwstxXAvWnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> This question is of great interest to me. If, say, I has a 1500 lb
> rated caster with a urethane wheel, would it deform under 800 lb
> load, enough to make it troublesome to move. Thanks
>
> i

What color are they? The softer Urethane will deform but the harder ones
will not. In die work, Urethane is color coded to hardness but I'm not sure
if is an adhered to standard and may even vary per mfgr.

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TOPIC: Just One Use items
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/609e016466adc86d?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 9 2010 4:27 pm
From: Wes

"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote:

>There are so many "just one" items around. Fire
>extinguisher, tourniquet, attorney on retainer. Makes a good
>subject to discuss. What are some other "just one use" and
>it's paid for itself items?

Well, I've always been satisfied by first use of toilet paper. Never tried to reuse it.

Air Bags if they deploy and you walk away.

Then there is the whole aircraft parachute. Same disclaimer as above.
http://www.brsparachutes.com/brs_aviation_home.aspx

Obviously if you fly aerobatic and use your FAA mandated personal chute once, that
qualifies also.

I doubt the Martin Baker ejection seat gets reused.

There is a saw stop technology that can sense your finger touching a table saw blade and
stop the blade. It works once and then you replace it.

Back when I was injecting either fertility drugs into my now ex wife's buttocks or insulin
into my dogs back, I figured one use on a syringe and needle was worth it.

I'm going to toss spare tire in. I've never used the spare for my Saturn, or my escort. I
did once for my Ranger, shortly after the front tire left my truck at 70 mph never to be
found again by me.

If you go through the trouble of taking self defense courses, obtain a carry permit, deal
with carrying issues and need and have it just once. It was worth it.

Wes

--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 9 2010 4:35 pm
From: Wes

"Robert Swinney" <judybob@tx.rr.com> wrote:

>Naw, Wes. I meant run whilst the bear is attracted to the other guy. Too bad if it happens to be
>your hunting companion.

What are you guys hunting with? I'm starting to think keeping a few 20ga slugs with me
while bird hunting might be a good idea.

Wes

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 9 2010 4:38 pm
From: Wes

"David R.Birch" <dbirch@wi.rr.com> wrote:

>Any tool from Harbor Fright, more than one use is a bonus!

I bought some rolling head pry bars. Each lasted less than one use.

Same for some metal stamps. One hit on 1018 and my O stamp is now in BOLD FONT.

Wes

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 9 2010 4:57 pm
From: Gunner Asch

On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:35:20 -0500, Wes <clutch@lycos.com> wrote:

>"Robert Swinney" <judybob@tx.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>Naw, Wes. I meant run whilst the bear is attracted to the other guy. Too bad if it happens to be
>>your hunting companion.
>
>
>What are you guys hunting with? I'm starting to think keeping a few 20ga slugs with me
>while bird hunting might be a good idea.
>
>Wes

Ayup. And they are rather cheap if you buy em in 5 packs. Works a treat
on bigger game, 2 and four legged, and does a rather decent job on the
passenger compartments of motor vehicles.

I think Walmart sells em for $3.95 for 5 or there about.

Gunner

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

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TOPIC: Faux:: Your Socialist "news"
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 9 2010 4:36 pm
From: "Buerste"

"Hawke" <davesmithers@digitalpath.net> wrote in message
news:hn6ffo$qrs$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> On 3/8/2010 7:13 PM, RONSERESURPLUS wrote:
>> On Mar 8, 6:11?pm, Hawke<davesmith...@digitalpath.net> wrote:
>>>>> OTOH They never had any problems about bushco& ?the rethugs LOSING
>>>>> half the US manufacturing jobs Clinton left the US with or creating
>>>>> the problems AND doubling the size of the federal do-nothing
>>>>> (remember Katrina& ?etc?) payrolls (probably hired their laxy-ass
>>>>> brain-dead
>>>>> buddies).
>>>>> --
>>>>> Cliff
>>>
>>>> Cliff
>>>
>>>> RON L here - SERE SURPLUS
>>>
>>>> ? ?Tell me that you think MSNBC and CBS Do a better Job, so you can lok
>>>> as foolish as you are? LOL Fox is not Perfect,m but far better than
>>>> Most other news sources, but then, I bet you like Cnn?? BBC? The Real
>>>> "SOCIALIST SOURCES"!
>>>
>>> Just curious. Did you notice that you mentioned most of the TV media in
>>> your post. You said all of them except Fox are socialist sources. You
>>> are saying that all American TV news sources are socialist except for
>>> Foxnews. See anything wrong with that analysis? Especially when I'm sure
>>> you have at least heard that Foxnews is known as the right wing network.
>>> Is it possible that Fox is the right wing network and the others are the
>>> middle of the road ones? Could it be that to you any network other than
>>> Fox is left wing? You should give that one some thought.
>>>
>>> Hawke- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> Hawke
>>
>> Yes, I have wated the Big 3 news since I was a Kid, and Yes, I see Fox
>> News as one of the better ones, Not perfect mind you, But Far bettere
>> than CNN, MSNBC and CBS, if you can't see that, then yes, you need to
>> look a little harder or move to Cuba where you'd feel at home?/ LOL
>>
>> RON
>
> It wouldn't matter where I lived I could still recognize bias when I see
> it. Foxnews is the most biased network in the U.S., it's virtually a
> wholly owned network outlet for the republican party.
>
> I watched the other networks for years too. Some of them do have a left
> leaning bias. No station is free of a political viewpoint. The hypocrisy
> is for the most biased network to maintain a fiction that it's "fair and
> balanced" when it's anything but that. The other stations, and I watch
> them all, do much better at being objective. None succeed completely but
> none of them are as blatantly supportive of one particular party as Fox
> is, not even MSNBC. Fox promotes republicans and right wing ideology 24/7.
> Whether it's the Christian programming it has, the glorification of war
> and the military, or the far right wing hosts on all evening long, Fox is
> promoting the right wing agenda. None of the other stations are even close
> to doing what Fox does. I know you won't see it that way but that doesn't
> matter. Fox has a worldwide reputation as right wing. It's understood
> everywhere. Everyone but the faithful Fox audience know it's a right wing
> network. That doesn't bother me at all. I watch it occasionally. But
> unlike most of the viewers, I know Fox is all about promoting right wing
> causes. That's okay but pretending not to be is what is offensive. If they
> would just say Fox News, the right wing network, I'd have no problem with
> them. But they have to lie about what they are and that does bother me.
>
> Hawke

But your viewpoint is SOOOO FARRRRR LEFT that you think the networks are
close to neutral. From my point of view, FOX is just barely right of center
and the networks have their heads so far up the liberal butt they can't see
reality.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 9 2010 4:58 pm
From: Gunner Asch

On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:36:21 -0500, "Buerste" <buerste@buerste.com>
wrote:

>
>"Hawke" <davesmithers@digitalpath.net> wrote in message
>news:hn6ffo$qrs$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>> On 3/8/2010 7:13 PM, RONSERESURPLUS wrote:
>>> On Mar 8, 6:11?pm, Hawke<davesmith...@digitalpath.net> wrote:
>>>>>> OTOH They never had any problems about bushco& ?the rethugs LOSING
>>>>>> half the US manufacturing jobs Clinton left the US with or creating
>>>>>> the problems AND doubling the size of the federal do-nothing
>>>>>> (remember Katrina& ?etc?) payrolls (probably hired their laxy-ass
>>>>>> brain-dead
>>>>>> buddies).
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Cliff
>>>>
>>>>> Cliff
>>>>
>>>>> RON L here - SERE SURPLUS
>>>>
>>>>> ? ?Tell me that you think MSNBC and CBS Do a better Job, so you can lok
>>>>> as foolish as you are? LOL Fox is not Perfect,m but far better than
>>>>> Most other news sources, but then, I bet you like Cnn?? BBC? The Real
>>>>> "SOCIALIST SOURCES"!
>>>>
>>>> Just curious. Did you notice that you mentioned most of the TV media in
>>>> your post. You said all of them except Fox are socialist sources. You
>>>> are saying that all American TV news sources are socialist except for
>>>> Foxnews. See anything wrong with that analysis? Especially when I'm sure
>>>> you have at least heard that Foxnews is known as the right wing network.
>>>> Is it possible that Fox is the right wing network and the others are the
>>>> middle of the road ones? Could it be that to you any network other than
>>>> Fox is left wing? You should give that one some thought.
>>>>
>>>> Hawke- Hide quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>
>>> Hawke
>>>
>>> Yes, I have wated the Big 3 news since I was a Kid, and Yes, I see Fox
>>> News as one of the better ones, Not perfect mind you, But Far bettere
>>> than CNN, MSNBC and CBS, if you can't see that, then yes, you need to
>>> look a little harder or move to Cuba where you'd feel at home?/ LOL
>>>
>>> RON
>>
>> It wouldn't matter where I lived I could still recognize bias when I see
>> it. Foxnews is the most biased network in the U.S., it's virtually a
>> wholly owned network outlet for the republican party.
>>
>> I watched the other networks for years too. Some of them do have a left
>> leaning bias. No station is free of a political viewpoint. The hypocrisy
>> is for the most biased network to maintain a fiction that it's "fair and
>> balanced" when it's anything but that. The other stations, and I watch
>> them all, do much better at being objective. None succeed completely but
>> none of them are as blatantly supportive of one particular party as Fox
>> is, not even MSNBC. Fox promotes republicans and right wing ideology 24/7.
>> Whether it's the Christian programming it has, the glorification of war
>> and the military, or the far right wing hosts on all evening long, Fox is
>> promoting the right wing agenda. None of the other stations are even close
>> to doing what Fox does. I know you won't see it that way but that doesn't
>> matter. Fox has a worldwide reputation as right wing. It's understood
>> everywhere. Everyone but the faithful Fox audience know it's a right wing
>> network. That doesn't bother me at all. I watch it occasionally. But
>> unlike most of the viewers, I know Fox is all about promoting right wing
>> causes. That's okay but pretending not to be is what is offensive. If they
>> would just say Fox News, the right wing network, I'd have no problem with
>> them. But they have to lie about what they are and that does bother me.
>>
>> Hawke
>
>But your viewpoint is SOOOO FARRRRR LEFT that you think the networks are
>close to neutral. From my point of view, FOX is just barely right of center
>and the networks have their heads so far up the liberal butt they can't see
>reality.
>
True indeed. Very true.

Gunner

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 9 2010 5:07 pm
From: Wes

"Buerste" <buerste@buerste.com> wrote:

>But your viewpoint is SOOOO FARRRRR LEFT that you think the networks are
>close to neutral. From my point of view, FOX is just barely right of center
>and the networks have their heads so far up the liberal butt they can't see
>reality.

Flip between FOX and MSNBC and one network will convince you are in Bizzaro World. Which
on depends on your political leaning.

http://www.dccomics.com/dcu/comics/?cm=2483

That is my political moment for tonight. I did put the 4 jaw on my lathe and thread the
makings of a 5C collet stop. I'd have finished it but Glen Beck had an interesting show
tonight. ;) There is always tomorrow night. Oh yeah, ground down a 12 mm wrench so it
would fit my 4x6 saw so I can adjust the guide roller eccentrics.

Scored a couple free 5C collet racks. I unwraped my NIB Lyndex collets and put them in
the first rack.

Tried to turn a chunk of stock with some type AR 1/2" brazed carbide bits I bought from
Enco. Someone forgot to grind in side relief. I watched my tool post rotate away from
the work.

I guess it is time to mount a diamond wheel to my HF baldor clone and shim it to run true
as possible. I need to tweek some bits. Maybe tomorrow.

The snow continues to melt. :)

Wes

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TOPIC: Fire the lazy bastards
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Date: Tues, Mar 9 2010 4:47 pm
From: Wes

"Harold & Susan Vordos" <vordos@tds.net> wrote:

>I own one of those more than 2 horse radial arm saws, from Sears. I'd be
>shocked if it developed more than 1 horse.
>
>Shocked, I say! :-)
>

I bet you get closer on a percentage basis to your RA saws true HP than I will to my 6 HP
shop vac.

Wes

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