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TOPIC: OT -- off grid power systems
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/284c9711ef5c39e6?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 27 2010 1:31 pm
From: cavelamb

Steve W. wrote:

>>>
>> Weve been off grid for some 39 yrs.
>> used diesels for power generation, on demand systems by Lister, called
>> the startamatic set up.
>> 5 yrs ago found 3 tons of nicad alkaline( sodium hydroxide ) batteries.
>> so then invested in an 3kw "outback" US system of charger/inverter.
>> Been in use for 6 months and has proved very efficient.
>> Next step is to use one of our 6/1 diesels running on straight
>> vegetable oil as a dc generator to eliminate the use of fossil fuel.
>> Will need to make a suitable alternator aka windmill permanent magnet type.
>> as for solar, this could be a possibility but due to the poor UK
>> weatherm sunshine is not reliable enough for us.
>> also the cost of connecting to our uk grid is prohibitive, due to the
>> distance.
>> Google for outback there the best right now for what you want.
>> Ted
>> Dorset
>> uk
>

> I though UK sunshine was measure in inches per hour...!!!
>

That's crazy! They are metric.

Richard Lamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/

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TOPIC: Anniversary of an amazingly enduring design
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/57c9c3facffdfb67?hl=en
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 27 2010 1:33 pm
From: cavelamb

Karl Townsend wrote:
> "Don Foreman" <dforeman@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> wrote in message
> news:127rq55sotskkdbqrodkqs08e4kmdrlu9v@4ax.com...
>> Monday, March 29, is the 99th anniversary of the legendary 1911
>> semiautomatic pistol designed by John Moses Browning.
> ...
>
> There's a one hour biography show on JMB I've seen on the History or
> Military Channel. I would guess there would be a replay on Monday. The man
> was an incredible genious. How he could conceive such complex and reliable
> mechanisims is beyond me.
>
> And, he didn't have AutoCAD or Alibre to do his designs <VBG>
>
> Karl
>
>
>

Neither did NASA when we went to the moon.

Richard Lamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/

== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 27 2010 4:07 pm
From: Wes

"Ed Huntress" <huntres23@optonline.net> wrote:

>And at the other end of the scale, just to show his versatility, he designed
>the falling-block Winchester Hi-Wall single-shot.

Anelegant firearm. I really like shooting my uncles Browning Highwall.

Wes

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 27 2010 4:12 pm
From: Wes

"RAM³" <S31924.nospam@netscape.net> wrote:

>"Don Foreman" <dforeman@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> wrote in message
>news:127rq55sotskkdbqrodkqs08e4kmdrlu9v@4ax.com...
>> Monday, March 29, is the 99th anniversary of the legendary 1911
>> semiautomatic pistol designed by John Moses Browning.
>>
>
><Excellent write-up snipped for brevity only.>
>
>You forgot to mention that the M1911 is, still, the *only* firearm shown to
>pass the tests that resulted in its adoption.
>
>While many have complained about the "looseness" of the fit of its parts,
>the M1911 remains the only handgun that will function in spite of mud, sand,
>etc., under the most extreme conditions.
>
>In "the moment of truth" the M1911 *will* function properly. <GRIN>
>
>BTW, an M1911A1 fits each of my hands perfectly...
>

Of course that configuration isn't a tack driver but then the M1911 was designed for close
in use. Longer distances, use a rife.

Wes

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 27 2010 3:24 pm
From: Yooper

On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 12:07:56 -0500, Ignoramus11443 wrote:
My next project is making a bayonet attachment for my Finnish
> Mosin Nagant.
>

I have four of these, two carbines (M-38 and M44) and two rifles-
91-30's. I haven't acquired a Finn capture yet, still looking. Great
guns, a lot of history behind them. Mine are all Ukraine refurbs.

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 27 2010 3:45 pm
From: "Ed Huntress"

"Wes" <clutch@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:covrn.260930$vr1.32325@en-nntp-07.dc1.easynews.com...
> "RAM³" <S31924.nospam@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>>"Don Foreman" <dforeman@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> wrote in message
>>news:127rq55sotskkdbqrodkqs08e4kmdrlu9v@4ax.com...
>>> Monday, March 29, is the 99th anniversary of the legendary 1911
>>> semiautomatic pistol designed by John Moses Browning.
>>>
>>
>><Excellent write-up snipped for brevity only.>
>>
>>You forgot to mention that the M1911 is, still, the *only* firearm shown
>>to
>>pass the tests that resulted in its adoption.
>>
>>While many have complained about the "looseness" of the fit of its parts,
>>the M1911 remains the only handgun that will function in spite of mud,
>>sand,
>>etc., under the most extreme conditions.
>>
>>In "the moment of truth" the M1911 *will* function properly. <GRIN>
>>
>>BTW, an M1911A1 fits each of my hands perfectly...
>>
>
> Of course that configuration isn't a tack driver but then the M1911 was
> designed for close
> in use. Longer distances, use a rife.
>
> Wes

An accurized 1911 will shoot 2" groups at 50 yards. Mine would when I
inherited it (it's a 1941 M70 Colt-manufactured military model, never shot
before it was sold through the NRA, which my uncle had accurized around
1965). But it's gotten a little looser over the years.

I considered hunting javelina with it, but my SSM Ruger will shoot groups
about half that size (the gun can, but I can't. <g>).

--
Ed Huntress

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 27 2010 3:45 pm
From: Ignoramus11443

On 2010-03-27, Yooper <thumper93@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 12:07:56 -0500, Ignoramus11443 wrote:
> My next project is making a bayonet attachment for my Finnish
>> Mosin Nagant.
>>
>
> I have four of these, two carbines (M-38 and M44) and two rifles-
> 91-30's. I haven't acquired a Finn capture yet, still looking. Great
> guns, a lot of history behind them. Mine are all Ukraine refurbs.
>

Mine is a Finnish M39. Bayonets are nonexistent. I wanted to make a
bayonet adapter that can be mounted to the rifle.

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 27 2010 3:47 pm
From: "Ed Huntress"

"Ignoramus11443" <ignoramus11443@NOSPAM.11443.invalid> wrote in message
news:44ednRMglqULFzPWnZ2dnUVZ_qoAAAAA@giganews.com...
> On 2010-03-27, Yooper <thumper93@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 12:07:56 -0500, Ignoramus11443 wrote:
>> My next project is making a bayonet attachment for my Finnish
>>> Mosin Nagant.
>>>
>>
>> I have four of these, two carbines (M-38 and M44) and two rifles-
>> 91-30's. I haven't acquired a Finn capture yet, still looking. Great
>> guns, a lot of history behind them. Mine are all Ukraine refurbs.
>>
>
> Mine is a Finnish M39. Bayonets are nonexistent. I wanted to make a
> bayonet adapter that can be mounted to the rifle.

Unless you're planning to hunt teabaggers, Iggy, you'll need to run like
hell to do any practical hunting with that bayonet. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

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TOPIC: If George Bush........
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/ee503716cb3ad0d5?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 27 2010 1:37 pm
From: "Buerste"

"John R. Carroll" <nunya@bidness.dev.nul> wrote in message
news:qMOdneAk6YeP1jPWnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@giganews.com...
> Ed Huntress wrote:
>> "John R. Carroll" <nunya@bidness.dev.nul> wrote in message
>> news:PPadnQio4fEJiDPWnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> Ed Huntress wrote:
>>>> "John R. Carroll" <nunya@bidness.dev.nul> wrote in message
>>>> news:B5mdna0Ao5ynjzPWnZ2dnUVZ_qOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>> Buerste wrote:
>>>>>> "Hawke" <davesmithers@digitalpath.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:hoj3hn$6t8$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>> Is there an echo in here? d8-)
>>>
>>> I hope so <G>
>>> I'm also wondering why, if Tom is doing such a splendid job creating
>>> jobs, Ohio is going to be without two Congressional Districts as the
>>> result of the
>>> current census.
>>
>> I think he's giving a lot of them the brush-off.
>
> Well....
> They lost two in 1990, two more in 2000 and now another two in 2010.
> At 630,000 a pop, that's a lot of brushing.
> LOL
> It's also a huge dent in the tax base.
>
>>
>>> I wonder if Tang Face is going to be back to running the
>>> family bar?
>>
>> Huh. Tang. Yeah, that's good. The color on my TV is off a little bit,
>> I guess. His face still looks like Pontiac Firegold from here.
>
> It's a spray on so he can vary the color to suit his mood if he likes. He
> was much less radiant when he took to the well of the House before the
> reconcilliation vote than he'd been on Sunday. Did you notice that? It
> would
> be funny as hell if the service he uses turned him a dark shade of ebony
> by
> mistake one day <G> That really would be "Magic".
> LOL
>
>
>
> --
> John R. Carroll
>
>

I'm just a tiny flyspeck and have absolutely no impact on anything. I see
first hand the worst part of one of the hardest hit cities in the US. I see
the symptoms of the huge underlying problems...jobs and education! We used
to have a model school system, now it's been politicized when they started
election the BOE rather than appointing them. The system quickly corrupted
and disintegrated. There used to be huge numbers of good manufacturing jobs
that attracted people from all over the country. Now those jobs are gone
and the decedents of the factory workers have nothing comparable. And,
there seems to be a disincentive for kids to do well in school and the
schools have lost their incentive to impress these kids. I have a real hard
time getting new employees that can do simple math or read a tape measure.
We hold classes, on the clock, just to teach some necessary skills. We also
cover the families' medical and pay for children's and grandchildren's
school books through college if they hold a "B" average. BUT, that's a fart
in a windstorm. My costs get repaid many-fold as my employees on the whole
go above and beyond.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 27 2010 2:54 pm
From: "Ed Huntress"

Maybe it will leave him spotted. Or maybe it breaks down from skin acids
into something paisley. <g>

--
Ed Huntress

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TOPIC: Somewhat OT: Well Wiring
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/fc2d499a65092f3e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 27 2010 2:38 pm
From: Charles U Farley

Ecnerwal <MyNameForward@ReplaceWithMyVices.Com.invalid> wrote in
news:MyNameForward-18F17A.16205927032010@feeder.eternal-september.org:

> I have shifted to mostly shopping for 300 feet of pump cable and putting
> a junction (and arrestor) at the top of the well, rather than buying a
> reel at 500 feet (should cost less per foot, so far does not) and
> running pump cable out to the wellhead from the power source, since
> "non-pump-wire" costs considerably less, and that part is just sitting
> still in conduit.
>
> It's easy to se where this can get horribly expensive the second time -
> right now time is not of the essence and I have the latitude to shop
> around. Once dependent on the well working, local lumberyard #2's
> extortionate price on pump wire might look better than a week's delay.
> Avoiding a second time as much as possible is certainly part of the plan.
>

That's starting to add up to a bunch of length you're shopping for. The
original post stated 12 ga, have you allowed for voltage drop at that
distance? One job I hooked up we had to go huge (#2) for a few hundred
feet of the underground portion and splice to #10 for the pump wire at the
well head. That kept the pump wire to a reasonable size and voltage drop
under 5%. Total circuit was 600' IIRC.

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TOPIC: OT: A simple fix for health care.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/71a212adc13a7894?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 27 2010 2:42 pm
From: Nobody@nowhere.org

On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 17:58:03 -0500, Wes <clutch@lycos.com> wrote:

>Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.now> wrote:
>
>>Wes wrote:
>>> Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>> And I still have to pay taxes on my health insurance premiums, unless I
>>>> go to work for da man!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> Fixing that would have made a lot of sense. Of course that would be in conflict with the
>>> true goal of single payer (only one choice, the government).
>>
>>While I think that much of the criticism of the democrats is vastly
>>overblown, I can't help but think that it's worse than that: I think the
>>Dems are against the self-employed for no other reason than we tend to
>>not be union. There's simply no advantage -- and some disadvantage --
>>to unions to have me be on an equal footing with a 'full' employee.
>>
>>I don't even think it has to be a conscious thing on the part of the
>>legislators* -- although I'm sure that the union lobbyists have it in mind.
>
>As far as Democrat legislators, it is on their mind. Unions are one of their interest
>groups. Consider the bail out of GM. Stimulus funding to state government and 'shovel
>ready' funding of projects that since they have federal funds are subject to the
>Davis-Bacon 'Prevailing Wage' law. Unions figure large in all of it.
>
>I truly believe Democrats rely on people that look to government and labor unions to
>provide for their wants and needs. Someone that stands on his hind two legs and goes into
>business for himself isn't their type of person. That type of person is likely to turn
>into a Republican of some form or a center right moderate.
>
>What I find perplexing is there are successful businessmen in the Democratic party. Frank
>Lautenberg created ADP the payroll processing company. The senator from Washington or
>Oregon was part of Realnetworks. Then there is Herbert Kohl, Senator from Wisconsin.

The WA Senator you're thinking of is Maria Cantwell, and Realnetworks
originated as Progressive Networks. She was a freshman Represenative
in the WA state House of Represenatives when I first met her. She's
not business friendly, never has been.

Her role with Progressive networks was as an investor on her fathers
recommendation, and with his money. She'd have never amounted to a
hill of beans on her own merits. I do have to say that her daddy did
teach her well though, that woman can lie with the best of them.

http://www.whorunsgov.com/Profiles/Maria_Cantwell

Newb

>I'd have thought them and other members of the Democratic caucus that actually ran a
>business would be sympathetic to giving the self employed a equitable tax treatment. After
>all, they had to start from ground zero once.
>
>>
>>* "has to be" isn't "isn't", by the way -- some of them are probably
>>doing it a-purpose.
>
>You have a sharp mind. :)
>
>Wes

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 27 2010 4:02 pm
From: Wes

Nobody@nowhere.org wrote:

>>What I find perplexing is there are successful businessmen in the Democratic party. Frank
>>Lautenberg created ADP the payroll processing company. The senator from Washington or
>>Oregon was part of Realnetworks. Then there is Herbert Kohl, Senator from Wisconsin.
>
>The WA Senator you're thinking of is Maria Cantwell, and Realnetworks
>originated as Progressive Networks. She was a freshman Represenative
>in the WA state House of Represenatives when I first met her. She's
>not business friendly, never has been.
>
>Her role with Progressive networks was as an investor on her fathers
>recommendation, and with his money. She'd have never amounted to a
>hill of beans on her own merits. I do have to say that her daddy did
>teach her well though, that woman can lie with the best of them.
>
>http://www.whorunsgov.com/Profiles/Maria_Cantwell
>
>Newb

Thanks for that tid bit of info.

Wes

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TOPIC: Type "J" bushing and Aloris AXA-104
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/a213ba880321ed6f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 27 2010 4:00 pm
From: Wes

Louis Ohland <ohland@charter.net> wrote:

> Found that the set screws in my AXA-104 boring bar holder do not
>match the two holes in the type J bushing. A bit of mill work to alter
>the rear hole and extend it to the front. Next time I'll get the long
>slot model.

Why did you go with the 104 over say the split type?

Wes

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TOPIC: Closing aluminium tube ends
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/5d4e22498f315783?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 27 2010 3:03 pm
From: Robin

On 27 Mar, 18:59, whit3rd <whit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 26, 1:29 pm, Robin <creffi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm working on a little project (a spotlight) that is basically a bit
> > of aluminium tubing, 50mm ID, 5mm wall thickness. I was wondering the
> > best way to close the end of the tube
> > c) Cut a chamfered plug and bond it to the tube - not sure what
> > adhesive to use
>
> How about solder? With the right fluxes and aluminum solder you
> get a good tight join. Drawn plug of soft aluminum would be
> suitable, too.

I've got some aluminium solder stuff, Lumiweld or similar, but can
never seem to get the same results the demonstrator shows! Didn't come
with flux - you had to melt a pool of solder and then scratch through
to break the oxide - I think it then reacted with the aluminium to
break the rest of the oxide. Not sure how I'd do it with this
application

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TOPIC: Working class
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/facb62633a2f2005?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 27 2010 3:18 pm
From: Hang Dog

dcaster@krl.org wrote:
> On Mar 23, 9:51 am, "Ed Huntress" <huntre...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>> Cherry-pick your polls and hype up your fantasies however you wish, Dan. If
>> you want to know the big picture, look at the averages posted by
>> RealClearPolitics. That's the place for serious poll-watchers.
>>
>> --
>> Ed Huntress
>
> I did not cherry pick. I just googled and that was the first one that
> showed up.

Hey up Doc. Google tracks what sites you visit, and returns sites based
on what you clicked on before. All YOU are likely to get from Google is
fruitball sites.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/07/google_personalizes_logged_out_search/

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TOPIC: What steel for pry bars?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/bcce4853edaf59b5?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 27 2010 4:21 pm
From: Wes

Larry Jaques <ljaques@diversify.invalid> wrote:

>I had a section of green Chrysler torsion bar which i used as a pry
>bar for years. It somehow didn't make the move with me to Oregon.
>
>It would spring just a hair with me on the end and a about a ton of
>weight leveraged at 2". I sorely miss it. It would have made a good
>digging bar in my current work.

Having had a few Chrysler products when they used torsion bars, I have no doubt that chunk
of steel made a fantastic pry bar.

Wes

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 27 2010 4:25 pm
From: Wes

Bob Engelhardt <bobengelhardt@comcast.net> wrote:

>Bob Engelhardt wrote:
>> ... Here's a picture of a
>> sharpened pry bar getting behind the tin. The arrow points to a nail head!
>[no picture link]
>
>Sorry - here it is:
>http://home.comcast.net/~bobengelhardt/TinCeiling.jpg
>
>Bob

Is it really tin or is it pressed steel?

Wes

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TOPIC: Western snow plow with all hydraulics and controller
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/f415f0567c066041?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 27 2010 4:29 pm
From: Wes

Ignoramus30639 <ignoramus30639@NOSPAM.30639.invalid> wrote:

>Would you say it is worth $220? if it works?

How long is your driveway? I ask that because I don't think you live out in the country
so it is likely short. A snowblower you walk behind would be a lot less hassle. I blow
about 200FT and I never run out of room to put the snow in.

Wes

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 27 2010 3:58 pm
From: Jim Wilkins

On Mar 27, 7:29 pm, Wes <clu...@lycos.com> wrote:
> Ignoramus30639 <ignoramus30...@NOSPAM.30639.invalid> wrote:
> >Would you say it is worth $220? if it works?
>
> How long is your driveway? I ask that because I don't think you live out in the country
> so it is likely short. A snowblower you walk behind would be a lot less hassle. I blow
> about 200FT and I never run out of room to put the snow in.
>
> Wes

That's an advantage of a snowblower over a plow. OTOH in my case the
only good place to blow most of it is upwind. My neighbor and I clear
large enough areas to turn around, he uses a 4WD ATV with a plow blade
and I have the bucket loader. Both machines can pile the snow into
this ridge along the border between our yards:
http://picasaweb.google.com/KB1DAL/HomeMadeMachines#5280467615509112306
The ATV is faster, I think mine is more fun.

Notice that the 6 Megapixel image has been reduced to 100 DPI and 640
x 480. Not all of us have broadband.

jsw

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TOPIC: What material for grill grate
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/9468b445cbbb194d?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 27 2010 3:44 pm
From: Ignoramus11443

We have a "stainless steel grill" from Sam's club. While the outside
is stainless, the burners, as well as the lower grate, are not, and
have almost completely rotted.

I will hopefully replace the burners, if I can find stainless
replacements. I would like to decide how to replace the lower grate. I
doubt that I can find 1:1 replacement for it. The job of the lower
grate is to hold ceramic plates, not meat. It was made of what looks
like steel that rusted almost completely.

I thought to just buy some thicker steel, or stainless, rod and weld
it together. The question is what is the recommended material.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 27 2010 4:05 pm
From: John

Ignoramus11443 wrote:
> We have a "stainless steel grill" from Sam's club. While the outside
> is stainless, the burners, as well as the lower grate, are not, and
> have almost completely rotted.
>
> I will hopefully replace the burners, if I can find stainless
> replacements. I would like to decide how to replace the lower grate. I
> doubt that I can find 1:1 replacement for it. The job of the lower
> grate is to hold ceramic plates, not meat. It was made of what looks
> like steel that rusted almost completely.
>
> I thought to just buy some thicker steel, or stainless, rod and weld
> it together. The question is what is the recommended material.
>
> i

316L would be top of the line

john

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TOPIC: DIY surge protection...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/fa560b93f2504a9b?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 27 2010 3:56 pm
From: "Michael A. Terrell"

"krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote:
>
> On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 10:15:28 -0600, bud-- <remove.budnews@isp.com> wrote:
>
> >westom wrote:
> >> On Mar 26, 12:32 am, bud-- <remove.budn...@isp.com> wrote:
> >>>> Do you magically make that energy just disappear? Of course not.
> >>> Where the energy goes has often been explained (including this thread)
> >>> but w's religious blinders prevent the words from penetrating.
> >>
> >> According to Bud, that energy magically disappears. Clamping
> >> somehow make energy disappear? He says that often.
> >
> >I don't ever say that, but the village idiot just can't understand. To
> >poor w it is "magic".
>
> Idiot 'w' thinks his boat will sinks the first time a wave hits.

We can only hope that he's right about that. :)

--
Lead free solder is Belgium's version of 'Hold my beer and watch this!'

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TOPIC: PICTURES of my wire brushing and polishing setup
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/2bd20b7802ede923?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 27 2010 3:58 pm
From: Too_Many_Tools

On Mar 27, 2:38 pm, "Buerste" <buer...@buerste.com> wrote:
> "Ignoramus8345" <ignoramus8...@NOSPAM.8345.invalid> wrote in message
>
> news:b-ydnaQRJ6XJFjDWnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> > Some pictures of my cleaning setup.
>
> > http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Cleaning-And-Polishing/
>
> > I can clean and polish most things, like the ones pictured, in one
> > minute or so.
>
> > The pictures show two items, a Morse 2 shank to Morse 3 hole extender,
> > and a Morse 5 shell mill holder.
>
> > i
>
> Make some kind of guard for that brush, Mr. Porcupine! I kept a copy of
> that picture to scare people.

I agree with the recommendations for a guard.

I have a similar setup that I use when I have to..which is seldom.

When I am done with it, I always have at least half a dozen wires
stuck in my clothes and skin.

Wearing safety goggles is a requirement of course.

A suggestion...a few years ago I started doing much of my grinding/
polishing/wirebrushing out on my driveway. This reduced the amount of
cleanup time in my shop needed.

TMT

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TOPIC: fun with your tractor
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/8b925e9e3238029e?hl=en
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Date: Sat, Mar 27 2010 4:06 pm
From: Winston

On 3/27/2010 7:18 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:54:24 -0700, the infamous Winston
> <Winston@bigbrother.net> scrawled the following:
>
>> On 3/26/2010 6:43 PM, rangerssuck wrote:
>>
>>> Aren't you even a little bit embarrassed to be able to identify the
>>> Spice Girls?
>>
>> Larry is *hopeless* naming the guys in the boy bands.
>> I swear, can't do a thing with him.
>
> Ayup. Hey, why haven't you plonked that wanker yet?

I propose we split the group into rec.crafts.metalworking
and rec.plonk.wanker.politics

--Winston

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