Tuesday, April 20, 2010

rec.crafts.metalworking - 25 new messages in 14 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Republicans stand with Wall Street - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/785f20c50aa6ebb2?hl=en
* Trailer brakes question - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/dbf0c841fbab99e5?hl=en
* Music choices was Re: JB -> Hammerhead - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/cda39acc38ce8a14?hl=en
* Another gun, another nut...did they kill any of your family today? - 2
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/0842f8601a24df8c?hl=en
* Oildorado coming to Taft October 2010! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/741a7ef3e1c1fd12?hl=en
* Palin vs. Obama - 7 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/adc173012f82af04?hl=en
* With JB You Can Always Count On... - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/ffbec57f79cd8673?hl=en
* water pipe corrosion - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/adce8997d52082fd?hl=en
* The Map is not the Territory, was Re: OT - I think Gunner should run for
office on the - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/98af221afb72e333?hl=en
* Suburban Latinos to march for immigration reform - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/25e3bddd2530c18f?hl=en
* Questions about InecoBasic Pipe Bending Machine - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/1477cd1c91708396?hl=en
* Please do not hate me for this - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/cae788e6847254c3?hl=en
* Cox Communications drops Usenet - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/36f115acdf81c75c?hl=en
* Do TMT's mommies have two Glocks too? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/6ace763e99837177?hl=en

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TOPIC: Republicans stand with Wall Street
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/785f20c50aa6ebb2?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 10:20 pm
From: Larry Jaques


On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:58:32 -0700, the infamous Winston
<Winston@bigbrother.net> scrawled the following:

>On 4/20/2010 3:53 PM, Winston wrote:
>
>> --Winston <-- Sent at 3:53 PM PST
>
>That was (embarrassed cough) 3:53 PM PDT, rather.

OH, sure. We always knew you lived in a different dimension, but time
zone, too?

--
"I think you very well may see a revolution in this country and
it will not be a revolution to overthrow the government," he said.
"It would be a revolution to restore government to its constitutional
basis." --Rob Weaver on VoA, 4/19/10


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 10:42 pm
From: Winston


On 4/20/2010 10:20 PM, Larry Jaques inscribed:

> OH, sure. We always knew you lived in a different dimension, but time
> zone, too?

I figure I can explore all 11 dimensions if I'm in the right 'Zone'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y&feature=related

--Winston

--

Gary was a liar, a thief, a scoundrel and a psychologist.
He was the most redundant man I ever met.

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TOPIC: Trailer brakes question
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/dbf0c841fbab99e5?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 10:23 pm
From: Beryl


Steve B wrote:
> Today, I took a friend's trailer a few miles to pick up some material. It
> is a tandem axle 16' trailer. I looked back, and there was smoke pouring
> out of one wheel. I had just started from a stop, and was doing about 15
> mph. I pulled over, put it in reverse, and then went forward and all was
> good. The tire had jammed up in some way, and the smoke was from the tire
> skidding, and not from the hub.
>
> This trailer has electric brakes, but they are not hooked up. When I got
> home, I had driven about eight miles. That one wheel was very warm, and
> the outer brake drum was nearly hot.
>
> I think what has happened is that some component has come loose inside
> there, and jammed. Backing up unjammed it, but there must still be
> something causing the shoe to come out and engage the drum making it hotter
> than the rest. The rest were cool to the touch.
>
> I am going to block the trailer up tomorrow, and take that wheel off first,
> and look for loose parts, or obvious failure.
>
> Should I just put a spring on there to hold the electric brakes closed? I
> would do this to all four wheels. Plus, check the bearings while I have it
> in the air. This trailer is not used for heavy loads, and my friend would
> probably not want to spend the $$ to have it put back as new, as it was
> manufactured in 1965.
>
> A mechanic friend of mine said to just take off all the shoes and
> everything, and not be bothered in the future. My friend pulls this with a
> 3/4 ton truck, enough to handle the trailer and load.
>
> What would you do?
>
> Steve

It won't matter that it's a 3/4 ton truck if the truck is *empty* and
there's 10,000 lbs poorly distributed on the trailer. Since you are
Utahrds, yeah, do what the mechanic said.

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TOPIC: Music choices was Re: JB -> Hammerhead
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/cda39acc38ce8a14?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 10:24 pm
From: pyotr filipivich


Gunner Asch <gunnerasch@gmail.com> on Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:08:00 -0700
typed in alt.machines.cnc the following:
>
>Son...most of those who have been/are/were military love music. Music
>can organize the mind, sooth the soul, help one think and so forth.
>Ive been military in more than one life, shrug..and a number of times
>Ive marched to the pipes, and relaxed to the drone strings.
>Head banger music is rather popular with the troops in the Middle East.
>It helps focus and keeps the edge off.
>
>This is one of my favorites..yet it IS martial in nature
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbwBahAh4Ps
>
>
>Pay no attention to the video that comes with it. Simply listen to the
>words.
>
>"how many of them can we make die!"

Ah, such a lovely song. As an Irishman once told me "Our wars are
merry, but our songs are sad."
>
>
>Shrug..music has its own beauty, its own soul and resonates in every
>persons center to some degree or another. And music of course has so
>much variety..that someone can find whatever sooths their soul, or
>raises the hair on the back of ones neck in anticipation.
>
>I actually enjoy most kinds of music, with the sole exception of rap/hip
>hop..which while technically is music...is oriented towards and
>recommends the worst behavior possible.
>
>Im currently listening to Shezerade..a Rimsky-Korsokov symphony as I
>type this.

Benny Goodman, here, "The Flat Foot Floogee" now that's dance
music!

Scooter Jennings band "Hierophant" has an ... interesting
...recent release "Black Ribbons". with Steven King readings between
cuts.
-
pyotr filipivich
We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!

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TOPIC: Another gun, another nut...did they kill any of your family today?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/0842f8601a24df8c?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 10:35 pm
From: Benj


On Apr 20, 8:15 am, "Chief Egalitarian" <Egal@legal_egal.law> wrote:

> > Would you be saying that if a member of your family had been killed
> > today by a nut case using a gun?
>
> > TMT
>
> Would you be saying that if a member of your family had been killed today by
> a nut case using a gun?

Nope. We'd be saying why wasn't he locked up BEFORE he senselessly
shot a bunch of innocent people. After all, why didn't anyone notice
all that crazy "virtual violence" "Too Many Tools" had ejaculated all
over the INTENET before he actually shot someone? LOCK UP THE "TOOL"
NOW!

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 10:38 pm
From: Benj


On Apr 20, 9:55 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> He is a legend...in his own mind.
>
> TMT

That is SO old, and SO lame.
It's almost as Lame as you are INSANE!

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TOPIC: Oildorado coming to Taft October 2010!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/741a7ef3e1c1fd12?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 10:43 pm
From: Beryl


The town celebrates its birthday once every five years. But what a
celebration it is!

Ten candidates have so far filed applications to be Maids of Petroleum,
and hopefully become Oildorado Queen. Event sponsors would like to have
20 Maids of Petroleum.

Eligibility requirements are tight:

* Be between the ages of 16-21

* Be single – never married, divorced, common law married or had children

* Earn a grade point average of 2.0 or higher in school

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TOPIC: Palin vs. Obama
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/adc173012f82af04?hl=en
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 10:46 pm
From: Too_Many_Tools


On Apr 20, 9:35 pm, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net> wrote:
> "ArmyOfDorkness" <DorkAsKni...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:cs-dnYS6GKeH_lPWnZ2dnUVZ_hmdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net> wrote in message
> >news:h6OdnR8m0PdsrVPWnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>
> >> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>news:8bd92a82-6168-4afb-a832-9c03637073a6@j12g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Apr 20, 6:29 am, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om>
> >> wrote:
> >>> As far as I can tell Palin objects to Obama.
> >>> He is not 100% white.
> >>> He is very bright.
> >>> It does not matter to Palin what the facts or subjects are. She
> >>> knows nothing about any of them anyway & is not about
> >>> to start learning anything now.
>
> >>> He is not a crazed winger.
> >>> --
> >>> Cliff
> >> /
> >> /I, like millions of other Americans, hope that Palin runs in 2012
> >> /against Obama.
> >> /
> >> /It would be a Republican bloodbath.
> >> /
> >> /TMT
> >> /
>
> >> I hope they can find something better than Palin to run, but either way,
> >> when Jesus returns, it will be a liberal bloodbath, blood to the horses
> >> bridal!
>
> > Jesus will be against liberals?
>
> No, liberals are against Jesus.
>
> RogerN- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Hey RogerN..does that N in RogerN stand for NUTS?

Better reread that book called "The Bible"...Jesus is a liberal.

TMT


== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 10:49 pm
From: Too_Many_Tools


On Apr 20, 10:41 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
> Comrade technomaNge wrote:
>
> > Aviroce wrote:
> > > Academically, he was superior to his classmates.  Politically he beat
>
> > --snip buncha funny stuff--
>
> > You, Sir, owe me a new keyboard.  Or provide instructions on
> > cleaning beer from my existing one.
>
>    I clean them by standing them on their end, against a wall.  Then I
> spray a fine mist of household Ammonia to loosen the crud.  A second
> spray of more Ammonia or distilled water a few minutes later makes it
> run off.  Then I let it dry for a few days before plugging it into a
> computer.  I usually clean about a dozen at a time.
>
> --
> Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
> have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

Whoa...that is way too much trouble.

Just tape the keyboard on the hood the next time you run the car
through the car wash.

And don't forget to put the monitor on the hood too...

TMT


== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 10:50 pm
From: Too_Many_Tools


On Apr 20, 10:48 pm, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <20347fa2-bf0c-4bfd-8618-c2e45990a4b7
> @j17g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, dudaras...@gmail.com says...
>
> > Academically, he was superior to his classmates.
>
> How would anyone know that ?

Facebook.

TMT


== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 10:57 pm
From: Too_Many_Tools


On Apr 20, 5:55 pm, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net> wrote:
> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8bd92a82-6168-4afb-a832-9c03637073a6@j12g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 20, 6:29 am, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om>
> wrote:> As far as I can tell Palin objects to Obama.
> > He is not 100% white.
> > He is very bright.
> > It does not matter to Palin what the facts or subjects are. She
> > knows nothing about any of them anyway & is not about
> > to start learning anything now.
>
> > He is not a crazed winger.
> > --
> > Cliff
>
> /
> /I, like millions of other Americans, hope that Palin runs in 2012
> /against Obama.
> /
> /It would be a Republican bloodbath.
> /
> /TMT
> /
>
> I hope they can find something better than Palin to run, but either way,
> when Jesus returns, it will be a liberal bloodbath, blood to the horses
> bridal!
>
> RogerN

No... Jesus has chosen Sarah Palin to insure the Republican Party will
burn in Hell for its sins.

It said so on a bathroom wall in Texas so it must be true.

TMT


== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 10:59 pm
From: Too_Many_Tools


On Apr 20, 9:51 pm, Aviroce <dudaras...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Academically, he was superior to his classmates.  Politically he beat
> the Jewish/Zionist monopoly on power and strategies to achieve power
> and get financial resources for it.  Leadershipwise, he chose the best
> the country produced in the different fields to advise him and pick
> the best route to go through and as such he was able to pull the
> country from the dumps.  I prospered by the destruction the Zionist-
> Republican caused to America.  I bought cheap homes like five and
> seven and fifteen cents on the dollar and under Obama these home at
> this time are selling at least at fifty cents on the dollar.  I keep
> them until I get one between ten and fifteen times what I paid for.
> Now I have one piece of land contracted for sale in South Carolina, a
> dead state.
>
> On Apr 20, 9:51 am, RONSERESURPLUS <ronseresurp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 20, 7:29 am, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om>
> > wrote:
>
> > > As far as I can tell Palin objects to Obama.
> > > He is not 100% white.
> > > He is very bright.
> > > It does not matter to Palin what the facts or subjects are. She
> > > knows nothing about any of them anyway & is not about
> > > to start learning anything now.
>
> > > He is not a crazed winger.
> > > --
> > > Cliff
>
> > Obama is VERY BRIGHT? About what, SOCALISM,, LENIN and STALIN??  Other
> > than being a CHI Town Street thug, what does he know? LOL
>
> > RON- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Don't forget to give Jesus his 10%......no make that 5% because of the
Obama tax cuts.

TMT


== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 11:27 pm
From: Gunner Asch


On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 22:33:55 -0500, Comrade technomaNge
<piracy@microsoft.com> wrote:

>Aviroce wrote:
>> Academically, he was superior to his classmates. Politically he beat
>
>--snip buncha funny stuff--
>
>You, Sir, owe me a new keyboard. Or provide instructions on
>cleaning beer from my existing one.
>
>Funniest stuff I've seen all night.
>

Indeed. The only thing anyone knows about him, were personal
observations of him being a school newspaper publisher.

Period. End Program

Yet the brainless leftwingers think he is an Einstein.

Which just goes to show exactly how fucking stupid they actually are.

Gunner

>
>technomaNge


"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost


== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 11:29 pm
From: Gunner Asch


On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:00:54 -0700 (PDT), Aviroce <dudaraster@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Apr 20, 7:29 pm, "ArmyOfDorkness" <DorkAsKni...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:h6OdnR8m0PdsrVPWnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >news:8bd92a82-6168-4afb-a832-9c03637073a6@j12g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
>> > On Apr 20, 6:29 am, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om>
>> > wrote:
>> >> As far as I can tell Palin objects to Obama.
>> >> He is not 100% white.
>> >> He is very bright.
>> >> It does not matter to Palin what the facts or subjects are. She
>> >> knows nothing about any of them anyway & is not about
>> >> to start learning anything now.
>>
>> >> He is not a crazed winger.
>> >> --
>> >> Cliff
>> > /
>> > /I, like millions of other Americans, hope that Palin runs in 2012
>> > /against Obama.
>> > /
>> > /It would be a Republican bloodbath.
>> > /
>> > /TMT
>> > /
>>
>> > I hope they can find something better than Palin to run, but either way,
>> > when Jesus returns, it will be a liberal bloodbath, blood to the horses
>> > bridal!
>>
>> Jesus will be against liberals?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>IF JESUS COMES HE WILL ATTACK HIS KILLERS. JESUS IS A PALESTINIANS
>AND HIS KILLERS WERE JEWS.


Oh Crom..we have another antijew crackpot.

I would suggest yall do as Im about to do.

<plink> him


Gunner


"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

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TOPIC: With JB You Can Always Count On...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/ffbec57f79cd8673?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 10:57 pm
From: Gunner Asch


On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 23:00:30 -0400, "Existential Angst"
<UNfitcat@UNoptonline.net> wrote:

>"Gunner Asch" <gunnerasch@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:f0pss5t6ujujt5lt6m9ilm19k36akuhlhk@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 22:13:48 -0400, "Existential Angst"
>> <UNfitcat@UNoptonline.net> wrote:
>>
>>>"Joe788" <larryrozer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:04b2f706-2e6d-466c-be33-258838a50b5b@r1g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Emotion And Commotion
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwNx-SG_vr8&feature=related
>>>
>>>
>>>Nothing against jeff beck per se, but watching rock'n'rollers recruit
>>>claissical musicians/orchestras for their I-IV-V chord extravaganzas
>>>(think
>>>Grand Funk Railroad) is like taking Mona Lisa's, Systine Chapels, and
>>>Picasso's, and using them for table mats in a fast food restaurant.
>>>
>>>In a word, musical hubris...... goodgawd.....
>>>
>>>This applies to the Beatles, as well.
>>>
>>>If you want a musical thrill AND education, listen to Jacques Loussier
>>>doing Vivaldi's Seasons.
>>>Every person with a kid in music class/school/studying an instrument
>>>should
>>>get this CD.
>>>
>>>Loussier's Play Bach series was, of course, legendary, but a bit more
>>>esoteric. The Vivaldi thing is more "understandable", surprisingly true
>>>to
>>>the original.
>>>Vivaldi:
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3H-eybKbi4 starts at 0:30; not crazy
>>>about the bossa nova improv, but OK
>>>
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-wQKNBvfpM Winter -- starts slow, but
>>>hang
>>>in there.... 01:20 will knock you out.... catch the bass.... Note the
>>>stunningly low 1,274 hits.... compare to the Jonas Bros... a true
>>>commentary on our effingly useless bankrupt culture.
>>>
>>>You can find a bunch of his Play Bach series, as well.
>>>
>>>This is all, of course, waaaay of jb's head, but then so are spreadsheets
>>>and manual contouring, and, or course, mastercam.
>>
>>
>> What..you didnt like the music links I posted?
>
>Ackshooly, I did! Some of that celtic stuff is really niced stuff.
>BUTT....
>I sort of bristle at the las vegas-type mega productions they turn all this
>into -- Reminds me of the Yanni mega-productions -- which I think turns
>effing music into a methamphetamine injection, which I don't think was god's
>original intent for music, but then we (the cultural "we") tend to megafy
>everygoddammthing.
>
>At this point, about all's I can handle is one instrument at a time.....
>cain't take the effing drama anymore.
-

Thats why you download the various songs...there are freebies that allow
you to record all those songs so you can store them on your puter..and
simply enjoy them <G>.....and not worry about the bullshit that went on
behind the scenes.

<G>

Ive got about 17 gigs of music on my main computer drive and about
double that on the backup drive that everyone in the house shares.

I pick and choose, put into a play list and depending on my mood...play
a shitload of hours of whatever Im into at the moment. I have the same
on an old laptop out in the shop..so Im never without music.

<VBG>

Gunner

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 11:30 pm
From: "Existential Angst"


"Larry Jaques" <ljaques@diversify.invalid> wrote in message
news:1k1ts5d2biq7hm50favn24ivp928po9j5a@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 19:34:13 -0700, the infamous Gunner Asch
> <gunnerasch@gmail.com> scrawled the following:
>
>>On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 22:13:48 -0400, "Existential Angst"
>><UNfitcat@UNoptonline.net> wrote:
>>
>>>"Joe788" <larryrozer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:04b2f706-2e6d-466c-be33-258838a50b5b@r1g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Emotion And Commotion
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwNx-SG_vr8&feature=related
>>>
>>>
>>>Nothing against jeff beck per se, but watching rock'n'rollers recruit
>>>claissical musicians/orchestras for their I-IV-V chord extravaganzas
>>>(think
>>>Grand Funk Railroad) is like taking Mona Lisa's, Systine Chapels, and
>>>Picasso's, and using them for table mats in a fast food restaurant.
>>>
>>>In a word, musical hubris...... goodgawd.....
>
> Hey, if you don't understand the beauty of combining the best of two
> musical styles, just say so. We'll 'splain 'em to ya. It's akin to
> playing Mozart, Bach, or Beethoven music at an art gallery. Some
> things just go together.
>
> Those recordings, OTOH, sucked the big one. No tonal range at _all_!
> Listen to those songs on the albums and you'll hear the
> difference...if your stereo is hooked up to your computer like mine
> is. ;) Jeff Beck, "Blow by Blow" song Freeway Jam. HOTNESS!
>
>
>>>You can find a bunch of his Play Bach series, as well.
>
> PDQ Bach? I saw them in Phoenix in '72. Lotsa fun.
>
>
>>What..you didnt like the music links I posted?
>>Gunner
>
> No, he just didn't understand it. I clued him in, or tried. <titter>

What you don't understand is the difference between between true composition
(music) and mega-arranged mega-produced mega-amplified I-IV-V chords.
Take all that bullshit away from bullshit music and you are left with
bullshit.
Good composition can be whistled, and still be extraordinary.

You think that when you take a piss, that 18" shadow of your 3" dick is its
real size.

Oh, and Genius, PDQ Bach has nothing to do with Loussier's Play Bach series.
--
EA


,
>
> --
> "I think you very well may see a revolution in this country and
> it will not be a revolution to overthrow the government," he said.
> "It would be a revolution to restore government to its constitutional
> basis." --Rob Weaver on VoA, 4/19/10

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TOPIC: water pipe corrosion
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/adce8997d52082fd?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 11:15 pm
From: "Buerste"

"Karl Townsend" <karltownsend.NOT@embarqmail.com> wrote in message
news:4bcdffcf$0$65862$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.octanews.com...
>
>> If you can access these parts out of the system, and since it's
>> non-potable water, I'd look at a coating like those made to coat inside
>> a gas tank.
>
> Do you have a name. Need more direction to know what to order.
> I'd to order it yet today.
>
> Karl
>
>
>

How about Pick-Up Truck bed liner goo, like "Rhino"?

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TOPIC: The Map is not the Territory, was Re: OT - I think Gunner should run
for office on the
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 11:34 pm
From: Gunner Asch


On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:59:37 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

>Gunner Asch <gunnerasch@gmail.com> on Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:23:04 -0700
>typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>>
>>Luckily..it didnt hit anythng major, pretty much went between the bones
>>and missed most of the muscles...but it looked rather absurd, like a
>>costume shop prank item. Didn really hurt much either, for..humm..about
>>5 minutes. Then it started. Kept me on my toes for a while. And I had
>>to drive myself to the ER..a trip about 25 miles one way. Each bump in
>>the road.....hurt. That old Chevy 3 speed on the column pickup truck
>>and I managed to get to town..but it was a bit awkward.....
>>
>>I walked in, lifted my hand to the ER staff..and asked..."anyone any
>>good with splinters"??
>
> ROFL.
>
>>
>> (I tend to have something of a morbid sense of humor)...the gal at the
>>check in desk looked up..turned green..started to slide out of her chair
>>and I hollered "Hey!"... at her..and she snapped back to real time.
>
> At least you had sense enough to not try and catch her.

Crom no! I would have stabbed her..I had about 4" sticking out of the
backside..and about 3" sticking out the palm side. When I wrote
that...I had a sharp memory of the incident..and the pain. As I
mentioned..thats one of the reasons I dont hit the little finger keys
all that well..
>
>>?Good
>>gal. Chuckle..she started to ask if Id sign in..and I looked over at
>>her..at my hand..back at her..and asked her if she had an inkwell, as I
>>thought I could do pretty well with the end of the splinter....<G> She
>>cringed, filled it out while the ER was being readied..and I marked a
>>big X with the end of the splinter in blood. She wasnt..amused.
>
> I can see her point - bio hazardous "ink" and all...

Hell..that was in 1970..nothing hazardous in those days..just messy
>
>pyotr
>
>-
>pyotr filipivich
>We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
>It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!


"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 11:35 pm
From: Gunner Asch


On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:59:37 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

>Gunner Asch <gunnerasch@gmail.com> on Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:23:04 -0700
>typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>>
>>A few minutes later..a shot of Demeral..and they could have cut my
>>entire arm off and I would have handed them the saw. Crom but I used to
>>love Demeral..then after my second back surgery..it Coded me..and I cant
>>have it any more...sigh... I enjoy that heart beat far far too much.
>>Course..when its my Time..a couple shots of Demeral might be a good way
>>to check out.
>>
>>Shrug
>
> Le Shrug - absence of pain is a wonderful thing.
>>
>>A few years later..a young North Vietnames kid did pretty much the same
>>thing to my other hand, with the triangular bayonet on the end of a
>>Chicom SKS. That didnt hurt for at least 30 minutes. And he didnt feel
>>a thing a minute after he did it. Ever again.
>>
>>Though to be fair..the bayonet was smaller.
>>
>>Shrug
>>
>>
>>Gunner,whos hands are moderately scarred...shrug again. And he has
>>problems with his little finger because of that splinter..so seldom hits
>>the ' keys and the little finger keys.
>
> I had to get fingerprinted for the job today. That little finger
>got broke a few years back - nothing serious, but it's just enough off
>that fingerprinting becomes "fun". At least I don't have arthritis as
>bad as the one gal. Could see her wince as her wrist was turned to
>get the full print.
> Sigh, the old "I complained because I had no shoes ..." bit.
>
> "It could be worse. I could live in California."

Most of California is pretty nice. Even some of the more urban areas.
Just not all of them.


>-
>pyotr filipivich
>We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
>It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!


"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

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TOPIC: Suburban Latinos to march for immigration reform
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/25e3bddd2530c18f?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 11:22 pm
From: Editor Hunter


In <M7qdnRQfuewM8FPWnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@giganews.com>, on Tue, 20 Apr 2010
20:14:25 -0700, John R. Carroll, nunya@bidness.dev.nul wrote:

> We did cowboys and Indians once.
> I think the pee partiers would like to make it cowboys and Mexican's

Which Mexican, and to what possession of his do you refer?

> for a while or maybe cowboy's and.......

Which cowboy, and to what possession of his do you refer?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 11:25 pm
From: Editor Hunter


In <ko6dnbN6VfSr81PWnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@giganews.com>, on Tue, 20 Apr 2010
20:17:11 -0700, John R. Carroll, nunya@bidness.dev.nul wrote:

>> I think the pee partiers would like to make it cowboys and Mexican's
>> for a while or maybe cowboy's and.......
>
> Kenyan's.

Which Kenyan, and what possession?

> That was it, cowboys and Kenyan's.

Again. Which Kenyan, and what possession?

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TOPIC: Questions about InecoBasic Pipe Bending Machine
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/1477cd1c91708396?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 11:39 pm
From: Gunner Asch


On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 22:28:48 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
>Gunner Asch wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:07:40 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>> <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Is anyone familiar with this machine, or the Yaskawa VS-mini J7 VFD it
>> >uses?
>>
>> The Yaskawa vfd..Im quite familar with. Its virtually bullet proof. One
>> of the best VFDs out there.
>
>
> The machine doesn't respond to the controls. The display shows what
>it's supposed to, but you hit the footswitch and the error light starts
>flashing. The replies from Ineco are in very broken English and all
>say, "If not work after this, replace the circuit board."
>
>
>>
>> I just downloaded the manual for you, and emailed it to your email
>> address.
>
>
> Which manual? I found the Yaskawa VS-mini J7 manual online, but I
>didn't have my computer glasses with me at the site. My friend called
>to tell me that Ineco told them the 208 volts wouldn't run it, so I was
>only supposed to show them how to install a boost transformer. I showed
>them and checked their wiring, but the machine still doesn't work. As I
>was leaving for the day they admitted that they sometimes had to run it
>with the display not working.
>
> The Ineco website was hacked, and the equipment manual was replaced by
>the hacker's ID, in an 18 byte file. :(

Post the exact model number of your drive. I may..may have a spare
display out in the shop.

If you have the display/local control that plugs into the front of
it..you can run the thing manually while testing.

Check your earthlink mailbox.

Gunner

"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

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TOPIC: Please do not hate me for this
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/cae788e6847254c3?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 11:40 pm
From: Gunner Asch


On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 22:30:58 -0500, Ignoramus3512
<ignoramus3512@NOSPAM.3512.invalid> wrote:

>On 2010-04-21, Wes <ClutchAtLycosDotCom@Gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ignoramus3512 <ignoramus3512@NOSPAM.3512.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>> Not a problem. Iggy can deliver it to my shop, where I have a three phase
>>>> delta service, 400 amps.
>>>> What a deal he got!
>>>
>>>Actually 38 amp at 230v.
>>>
>>>i
>>
>>
>> Back of the knapkin, that sounds like about 300-350 amps on the welding side.
>
>Actually 200 amps.
>
>i

Thats what I figured.

Gunner

"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

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TOPIC: Cox Communications drops Usenet
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/36f115acdf81c75c?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 11:41 pm
From: Gunner Asch


On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:29:35 -0700, Erik <spam@this.com> wrote:

>In article <8Uazn.119490$mn6.36622@newsfe07.iad>,
> "azotic" <azotic@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Dear Valued Customer:
>>
>> Effective June 30, 2010, Cox Communications will discontinue Usenet service
>> to our subscribers.
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
>> Tom.
>
>
>Check out DSL Extreme... They include full usenet access with (I think
>all of) their accounts. Been with them about 3 years now and they've
>rocked the whole time.
>
>However... note that I only use DSL Extreme as a 'dumb pipe' to the
>internet, and don't use their e-mail or DNS server... and can't vouch
>for the performance of either. (I IMAP Gmail, and flip flop between Open
>DNS and Google DNS.)
>
>Erik


DSL extreme is only available in some..some large urban areas.

In fact..DSL isnt even availble in most of America

Gunner


"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

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TOPIC: Do TMT's mommies have two Glocks too?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/6ace763e99837177?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 11:44 pm
From: Gunner Asch


On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:12:47 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

>Gunner Asch <gunnerasch@gmail.com> on Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:09:51 -0700
>typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>>
>>>An important reason for requiring training to get a CCW is to inform
>>>applicants of these issues. Not all states require training. I
>>>encourage everyone who buys a first handgun to get this training
>>>whether or not they intend to carry or apply for a permit.
>>
>>
>>I strongly agree with Don. Get training!
>>
>>It covers your ass if the shit hits the fan, and it helps you make the
>>RIGHT decisions. Which isnt always,,,, pulling the trigger.
>
> "Lethal force is not an option. It is all that you have left
>after your options run out." I remember that from the class.

Absolutely correct.

Which is the reason Ive NOT had to pull the trigger the last 6 times I
had to present my weapon. I hope..pray... that continues.

Gunner

>-
>pyotr filipivich
>We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
>It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!


"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost


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