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Today's topics:

* Do Dems pander to open borders, pro-illegal Hispanics and piss off rest of
American voters? - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/282ef6d12e7e820d?hl=en
* buy.com $65 purch $200 s&h? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/9b8f121d29bfc727?hl=en
* Why I didn't buy TurboTax AGAIN this year - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/92f5d113853839d2?hl=en
* Do you know what would happen if you gave a bunch of bananas to a bunch of
monkeys? - 18 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/05565b0b8312402c?hl=en
* Doctor getting kickbacks? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/faff268312f0b359?hl=en
* Some benefits after returning to U.S.A - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/c03b4cbcbdb81eac?hl=en

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TOPIC: Do Dems pander to open borders, pro-illegal Hispanics and piss off rest
of American voters?
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 10:09 am
From: Cindy Hamilton

On Apr 15, 8:22 am, climber <coledenk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Democracy is such a whore! Fuck whats good for America, just suck-up
> to those minorities.
> Liberals talk about the environment but never discuss the population-
> blasting effects
> of uncontrolled immigration.

What system would you suggest in place of democracy?
A tyranny with you in charge?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 10:38 am
From: Billy

In article
<c9edde6b-557f-4ec7-b1e2-a4fb1b0e4bff@y17g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
climber <coledenkler@gmail.com> wrote:

Back again "agent provocateur". COINTEL is back again. And you have a
job.
The rulers have to have Americans fighting among themselves, so that
they can hold on to power.
> Democracy is such a whore! Fuck whats good for America, just suck-up
> to those minorities.
What minorities ass-hole? Jews? Catholics? Irish? Italian? Asians?
Africans (no, wait a minute, white people brought them over, oh well)?
Indigenous? Garlic eaters? Type A? Or scum like you?
> Liberals talk about the environment but never discuss the population-
> blasting effects
> of uncontrolled immigration.
That's because we (our government creates poor people in other countries
with exploitation (like NAFTA), and then lets those people in to drive
down wages. Like the hungry immigrants, we are getting screwed too.

Maybe we ought to be talking about population control, birth control,
abortions, and family clinics.

I'd be pleased to nominate you for a post natal abortion, scum bag.
>

)
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_(_\ _(_\ \)__
((__climber on a good day__))
government provocateur
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html

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TOPIC: buy.com $65 purch $200 s&h?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/9b8f121d29bfc727?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 10:23 am
From: Zuke

On Thu, 15 Apr 2010, vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:

> I wanted to know if buy.com does this regularly or I mis-used it?
>
> I think it didn't go through. I never pressed "place your order"
>
> I'm still not at peace until I see my credit card statement.
>

What was the weight of the item you purchased and how far does it
have to come. Heavy items can certainly cost $200 to ship.

Buy.com is a pretty big concern. I doubt if they are ripping you
off for shipping.

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TOPIC: Why I didn't buy TurboTax AGAIN this year
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 11:00 am
From: hchickpea@hotmail.com

On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:44:24 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashley101+es@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 04/13/2010 08:32 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>
>> I used to think Intuit was a good company producing a good product. Now
>> they're just one more company that deserves a trip down the drain.
>
>Addendum: Not a single one of the 'Contact Us' links worked. Not email, not
>chat, not list-of-phone-numbers. They weren't even LINKS for Chrissake, just
>empty 'click here' boxes.

Ah yes. That seems to be more common these days. Pageplus cellular
is doing much the same. Companies just don't want to be bothered.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 6:29 pm
From: Steve Daniels

On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:32:45 -0700, against all advice, something
compelled The Real Bev <bashley101+es@gmail.com>, to say:

> I used to think Intuit was a good company producing a good product. Now
> they're just one more company that deserves a trip down the drain.

I used these guys:

https://www.taxactonline.com/

I spent $33 to file on line, but it's my fault for
procrastinating so long. They remembered my form data from last
year, and the site was relatively easy to navigate.

I have one W2, property tax, mortgage and student loan interest,
a bit of charitable giving, and a credit for energy efficient
windows. My taxes were done in about an hour, and I'm just
waiting for my refund to show up in my checking account.

I'm planning on using them again next year, FWIW.

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TOPIC: Do you know what would happen if you gave a bunch of bananas to a bunch
of monkeys?
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== 1 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 11:34 am
From: "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"

I want to clarify something so there's no misunderstanding that I
support SOCIALISM...

I'm all against RATIONING A BANANA PER MONKEY, so we must live in
abundance and freedom of choice, which is also denied by MONOPOLISTIC
CAPITALISM.

The Banana Revolution is all about FREEDOM!

== 2 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 12:02 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"
<comandante.banana@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:806cc70f-f946-48cd-a7cf-b35d1f093e71@b33g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>I want to clarify something so there's no misunderstanding that I
> support SOCIALISM...
>
> I'm all against RATIONING A BANANA PER MONKEY, so we must live in
> abundance and freedom of choice, which is also denied by MONOPOLISTIC
> CAPITALISM.
>
> The Banana Revolution is all about FREEDOM!

The end result of socialism is that everyone becomes poor and only subsists.
Better to have a few rich bastards around (capitalism) who know how to
stroke the economy.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 3 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 12:28 pm
From: "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"

On Apr 15, 12:02 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:806cc70f-f946-48cd-a7cf-b35d1f093e71@b33g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
> >I want to clarify something so there's no misunderstanding that I
> > support SOCIALISM...
>
> > I'm all against RATIONING A BANANA PER MONKEY, so we must live in
> > abundance and freedom of choice, which is also denied by MONOPOLISTIC
> > CAPITALISM.
>
> > The Banana Revolution is all about FREEDOM!
>
> The end result of socialism is that everyone becomes poor and only subsists.
> Better to have a few rich bastards around (capitalism) who know how to
> stroke the economy.
>

Oh sure, and then you can't ride a fucking bike because it's not
profitable enough.

== 4 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 12:36 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"
<comandante.banana@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d3d77cd2-e03c-4340-8a3b-ac4a8b5fa74d@w42g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 15, 12:02 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana
> Kung-Fu"<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:806cc70f-f946-48cd-a7cf-b35d1f093e71@b33g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
> >I want to clarify something so there's no misunderstanding that I
> > support SOCIALISM...
>
> > I'm all against RATIONING A BANANA PER MONKEY, so we must live in
> > abundance and freedom of choice, which is also denied by MONOPOLISTIC
> > CAPITALISM.
>
> > The Banana Revolution is all about FREEDOM!
>
> The end result of socialism is that everyone becomes poor and only
> subsists.
> Better to have a few rich bastards around (capitalism) who know how to
> stroke the economy.
>

>>> Oh sure, and then you can't ride a fucking bike because it's not
profitable enough.

Capitalists don't give a damn what you or I do, either on or off a bicycle.
Try to get your head screwed on straight if that is possible.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 5 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 12:40 pm
From: "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"

On Apr 15, 12:36 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:d3d77cd2-e03c-4340-8a3b-ac4a8b5fa74d@w42g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 15, 12:02 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana
> > Kung-Fu"<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:806cc70f-f946-48cd-a7cf-b35d1f093e71@b33g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > >I want to clarify something so there's no misunderstanding that I
> > > support SOCIALISM...
>
> > > I'm all against RATIONING A BANANA PER MONKEY, so we must live in
> > > abundance and freedom of choice, which is also denied by MONOPOLISTIC
> > > CAPITALISM.
>
> > > The Banana Revolution is all about FREEDOM!
>
> > The end result of socialism is that everyone becomes poor and only
> > subsists.
> > Better to have a few rich bastards around (capitalism) who know how to
> > stroke the economy.
>
> >>> Oh sure, and then you can't ride a fucking bike because it's not
>
> profitable enough.
>
> Capitalists don't give a damn what you or I do, either on or off a bicycle.
> Try to get your head screwed on straight if that is possible.

They do give a damn. That's a law of capitalism...

"In a society dominated by the fact of commercial competition, money
is necessarily the test of prowess, and wastefulness the sole
criterion of power." -Upton Sinclair, book 'The Jungle'

***

But pick on me. I already said I don't like SOCIALISM. And I know you
like to throw shit too! ;)

== 6 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 12:54 pm
From: "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"

On Apr 15, 12:46 pm, Jimbo <ckdbig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 15, 1:35 am, "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"
>
> <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > No, I don't know either, but we can make some educated guesses by
> > looking at their closest cousins --us.
>
> > What will happen is that some monkeys will try to eat more bananas --
> > the lion's share-- while others go hungry. Some call it "human
> > nature," but I bet monkeys act like that too.
>
> > So, say we have 10 bananas for 10 monkeys. Someone will eat 4, another
> > 2, and so on. If they eat 1 banana each, they would be socialist. But
> > if they don't, they would be Republican.
>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> What are the daily banana requirements for each Monkey? Should the
> monkey that planted, nourished, and harvested the bananas not be given
> a bigger share? How about the 6 worker monkeys? Should the monkeys
> that did nothing to earn the bananas be given an equal share? What
> about the 1 monkey that openly scoffed at the bananas until it came
> time to eat them, should he be given an equal share of the bananas?
>
> Who defines "fair"?

No SOCIALISM here. No sweat, no banana! ;)

The trick is that the alpha monkeys shouldn't have access to unlimited
bananas in order to control the mundane monkeys.

== 7 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 12:56 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit" <nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com>
wrote in message
news:7f6f938a-e1c1-4132-b6a2-d9c19a644fba@v14g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 15, 12:36 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>> "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana
>> Kung-Fu"<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:d3d77cd2-e03c-4340-8a3b-ac4a8b5fa74d@w42g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>> On Apr 15, 12:02 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana
>> > Kung-Fu"<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >news:806cc70f-f946-48cd-a7cf-b35d1f093e71@b33g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > >I want to clarify something so there's no misunderstanding that I
>> > > support SOCIALISM...
>>
>> > > I'm all against RATIONING A BANANA PER MONKEY, so we must live in
>> > > abundance and freedom of choice, which is also denied by MONOPOLISTIC
>> > > CAPITALISM.
>>
>> > > The Banana Revolution is all about FREEDOM!
>>
>> > The end result of socialism is that everyone becomes poor and only
>> > subsists.
>> > Better to have a few rich bastards around (capitalism) who know how to
>> > stroke the economy.
>>
>> >>> Oh sure, and then you can't ride a fucking bike because it's not
>>
>> profitable enough.
>>
>> Capitalists don't give a damn what you or I do, either on or off a
>> bicycle.
>> Try to get your head screwed on straight if that is possible.
>
> They do give a damn. That's a law of capitalism...
>
> "In a society dominated by the fact of commercial competition, money
> is necessarily the test of prowess, and wastefulness the sole
> criterion of power." -Upton Sinclair, book 'The Jungle'
>
> But pick on me. I already said I don't like SOCIALISM. And I know you
> like to throw shit too! ;)

You previously wrote:

>> I want to clarify something so there's no misunderstanding that I support
>> SOCIALISM...

Socialism ends up in National Socialism (Hitler), Communism (Stalin) or the
Chinese variety (Maoism). These are your friends, not mine.

Capitalists are abstract thinkers. Trust me on this, they do not give a damn
about you and me. Yes, they are concerned with profit, but that is a million
times better than those god damn fucking socialist bastards who are only
concerned with power and control over people.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 8 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 1:00 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit" <nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com>
wrote in message
news:82db7b1a-ba5e-4318-8f45-b8b549516c63@u31g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 15, 12:46 pm, Jimbo <ckdbig...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 15, 1:35 am, "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"
>>
>> <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > No, I don't know either, but we can make some educated guesses by
>> > looking at their closest cousins --us.
>>
>> > What will happen is that some monkeys will try to eat more bananas --
>> > the lion's share-- while others go hungry. Some call it "human
>> > nature," but I bet monkeys act like that too.
>>
>> > So, say we have 10 bananas for 10 monkeys. Someone will eat 4, another
>> > 2, and so on. If they eat 1 banana each, they would be socialist. But
>> > if they don't, they would be Republican.
>>
>> > ---------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> What are the daily banana requirements for each Monkey? Should the
>> monkey that planted, nourished, and harvested the bananas not be given
>> a bigger share? How about the 6 worker monkeys? Should the monkeys
>> that did nothing to earn the bananas be given an equal share? What
>> about the 1 monkey that openly scoffed at the bananas until it came
>> time to eat them, should he be given an equal share of the bananas?
>>
>> Who defines "fair"?
>
> No SOCIALISM here. No sweat, no banana! ;)
>
> The trick is that the alpha monkeys shouldn't have access to unlimited
> bananas in order to control the mundane monkeys.

Agreed!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 9 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 2:45 pm
From: "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"

On Apr 15, 5:30 pm, John Locke <johnlocke...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:35:33 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey,
>
> the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >No, I don't know either, but we can make some educated guesses by
> >looking at their closest cousins --us.
>
> >What will happen is that some monkeys will try to eat more bananas --
> >the lion's share-- while others go hungry. Some call it "human
> >nature," but I bet monkeys act like that too.
>
> >So, say we have 10 bananas for 10 monkeys. Someone will eat 4, another
> >2, and so on. If they eat 1 banana each, they would be socialist. But
> >if they don't, they would be Republican.
>
> ..and if one monkey eats them he would be a dictator !
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ""All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian,
> or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to
> terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit."
> -- Thomas Paine

All the lessons to be learned from this experiment may be interpreted
by those who sponsor the study. ;)

A monkey can eat 4 bananas, get 5 monkeys to eat the scraps and still
leave 4 monkeys hungry in the name of "democracy."

== 10 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 2:49 pm
From: "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"

On Apr 15, 3:56 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> wrote in messagenews:7f6f938a-e1c1-4132-b6a2-d9c19a644fba@v14g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Apr 15, 12:36 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> >> "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana
> >> Kung-Fu"<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:d3d77cd2-e03c-4340-8a3b-ac4a8b5fa74d@w42g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Apr 15, 12:02 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>
> >> > "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana
> >> > Kung-Fu"<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >> >news:806cc70f-f946-48cd-a7cf-b35d1f093e71@b33g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > >I want to clarify something so there's no misunderstanding that I
> >> > > support SOCIALISM...
>
> >> > > I'm all against RATIONING A BANANA PER MONKEY, so we must live in
> >> > > abundance and freedom of choice, which is also denied by MONOPOLISTIC
> >> > > CAPITALISM.
>
> >> > > The Banana Revolution is all about FREEDOM!
>
> >> > The end result of socialism is that everyone becomes poor and only
> >> > subsists.
> >> > Better to have a few rich bastards around (capitalism) who know how to
> >> > stroke the economy.
>
> >> >>> Oh sure, and then you can't ride a fucking bike because it's not
>
> >> profitable enough.
>
> >> Capitalists don't give a damn what you or I do, either on or off a
> >> bicycle.
> >> Try to get your head screwed on straight if that is possible.
>
> > They do give a damn. That's a law of capitalism...
>
> > "In a society dominated by the fact of commercial competition, money
> > is necessarily the test of prowess, and wastefulness the sole
> > criterion of power." -Upton Sinclair, book 'The Jungle'
>
> > But pick on me. I already said I don't like SOCIALISM. And I know you
> > like to throw shit too! ;)
> You previously wrote:
> >> I want to clarify something so there's no misunderstanding that I support
> >> SOCIALISM...
>
> Socialism ends up in National Socialism (Hitler), Communism (Stalin) or the
> Chinese variety (Maoism). These are your friends, not mine.
>
> Capitalists are abstract thinkers. Trust me on this, they do not give a damn
> about you and me. Yes, they are concerned with profit, but that is a million
> times better than those god damn fucking socialist bastards who are only
> concerned with power and control over people.

Where do Holland or Denmark fall in those categories? How about
Canada?

I think you are as clueless as a monkey.

== 11 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 3:04 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit" <nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com>
wrote in message
news:f88274da-a513-49f2-acac-49f6569bd78f@q23g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 15, 3:56 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:

> Capitalists are abstract thinkers. Trust me on this, they do not give a
> damn
> about you and me. Yes, they are concerned with profit, but that is a
> million
> times better than those god damn fucking socialist bastards who are only
> concerned with power and control over people.

Where do Holland or Denmark fall in those categories? How about
Canada?

> They are social welfare states which fall far short of socialism. They
> depend on capitalists to lay the golden eggs.

I think you are as clueless as a monkey.

> But not as clueless as you.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 12 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 3:45 pm
From: "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"

On Apr 15, 6:04 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> wrote in messagenews:f88274da-a513-49f2-acac-49f6569bd78f@q23g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 15, 3:56 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>
> > Capitalists are abstract thinkers. Trust me on this, they do not give a
> > damn
> > about you and me. Yes, they are concerned with profit, but that is a
> > million
> > times better than those god damn fucking socialist bastards who are only
> > concerned with power and control over people.
>
> Where do Holland or Denmark fall in those categories? How about
> Canada?
>
> > They are social welfare states which fall far short of socialism. They
> > depend on capitalists to lay the golden eggs.
>
> I think you are as clueless as a monkey.

You still haven't answered my question, big monkey.

Is Canada Stalinist, Maoist or what?

== 13 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 4:06 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit" <nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com>
wrote in message
news:85efa486-6bf9-4059-ae3f-c4f9ca14d0c0@z7g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 15, 6:04 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"
> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> wrote in
> messagenews:f88274da-a513-49f2-acac-49f6569bd78f@q23g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 15, 3:56 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>
> > Capitalists are abstract thinkers. Trust me on this, they do not give a
> > damn
> > about you and me. Yes, they are concerned with profit, but that is a
> > million
> > times better than those god damn fucking socialist bastards who are only
> > concerned with power and control over people.
>
> Where do Holland or Denmark fall in those categories? How about
> Canada?
>
> > They are social welfare states which fall far short of socialism. They
> > depend on capitalists to lay the golden eggs.
>
> I think you are as clueless as a monkey.

You still haven't answered my question, big monkey.

Is Canada Stalinist, Maoist or what?

>>> Do you not understand plain English? I have told you that they are all
>>> welfare states, NOT socialism.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 14 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 4:10 pm
From: "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"

On Apr 15, 7:06 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> wrote in messagenews:85efa486-6bf9-4059-ae3f-c4f9ca14d0c0@z7g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 15, 6:04 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"
> > <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote in
> > messagenews:f88274da-a513-49f2-acac-49f6569bd78f@q23g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> > On Apr 15, 3:56 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>
> > > Capitalists are abstract thinkers. Trust me on this, they do not give a
> > > damn
> > > about you and me. Yes, they are concerned with profit, but that is a
> > > million
> > > times better than those god damn fucking socialist bastards who are only
> > > concerned with power and control over people.
>
> > Where do Holland or Denmark fall in those categories? How about
> > Canada?
>
> > > They are social welfare states which fall far short of socialism. They
> > > depend on capitalists to lay the golden eggs.
>
> > I think you are as clueless as a monkey.

So tell me, what is better the WELFARE STATE OR THE WARFARE STATE?

Not that I advocate the welfare state. ;)

== 15 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 4:29 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit" <nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com>
wrote in message
news:66129e46-b291-441a-a48e-0c37027f1b7e@u31g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 15, 7:06 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
[...]
> > > They are social welfare states which fall far short of socialism. They
> > > depend on capitalists to lay the golden eggs.
>
> > I think you are as clueless as a monkey.

So tell me, what is better the WELFARE STATE OR THE WARFARE STATE?

Not that I advocate the welfare state. ;)

>>>> We need to kick Muslim ass. If not, they will soon be kicking our dumb
>>>> ass.

>>>> Regards,

>>>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 16 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 4:37 pm
From: "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"

On Apr 15, 7:29 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>

> Not that I advocate the welfare state. ;)
>
> >>>> We need to kick Muslim ass. If not, they will soon be kicking our dumb
> >>>> ass.
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

(why those funny markings instead of single one)

I thought Capitalism would become more humane after the fall of
communism, but it only became hungrier.

== 17 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 5:01 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"
<comandante.banana@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:943b1b12-edb4-4402-8f4e-8d59d7d27e6d@8g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 15, 7:29 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"
> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>

> Not that I advocate the welfare state. ;)
>
> >>>> We need to kick Muslim ass. If not, they will soon be kicking our
> >>>> dumb
> >>>> ass.
>
(why those funny markings instead of single one)

>> I need to differentiate who is saying what. You are posting from Google
>> Groups which has always been a fouled up web site to post from. I am
>> posting from my Windows Mail via News.Knowolgy.Net. You should get a
>> proper newsreader.

I thought Capitalism would become more humane after the fall of
communism, but it only became hungrier.

>> TibetanMonkey, capitalism is not perfect, but it is better than all those
>> other systems out there.

>> Regards,

>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 18 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 6:33 pm
From: "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"

On Apr 15, 8:01 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:943b1b12-edb4-4402-8f4e-8d59d7d27e6d@8g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 15, 7:29 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>
> > "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"
> > <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> > Not that I advocate the welfare state. ;)
>
> > >>>> We need to kick Muslim ass. If not, they will soon be kicking our
> > >>>> dumb
> > >>>> ass.
>
> (why those funny markings instead of single one)
>
> >> I need to differentiate who is saying what. You are posting from Google
> >> Groups which has always been a fouled  up web site to post from. I am
> >> posting from my Windows Mail via News.Knowolgy.Net. You should get a
> >> proper newsreader.
>
> I thought Capitalism would become more humane after the fall of
> communism, but it only became hungrier.
>
> >> TibetanMonkey, capitalism is not perfect, but it is better than all those
> >> other systems out there.
> >> Regards,
> >> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Will it be the last one before we finally "succeed" in depleting all
the resources and species of the planet?

I hope something else is coming soon. Something like Holland or
perhaps better, where YOU HAVE CHOICES like public transportation,
bikes or cars.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 12:02 pm
From: Roy

On 4/14/2010 2:56 PM, peewee wrote:
> I am contemplating surgery. I have a surgeon that uses one of
> the outpatient surgery centers to do his work and he
> typically does thousands of the same operation a year at this
> same place.
>
> I have reason to think he maybe have a financial interest if
> not outright getting kickbacks from this surgery center and
> he is very closed about disclosing costs associated with
> surgery.
>
> Is there a way, short of taking him to court that I can
> determine if he has a financial interest in this center where
> he does his cutting?

It varies by state. Some states require the doctor to tell you if he
holds a financial interest in the surgery center.

Kickbacks are usually illegal. Holding a financial interest in the
facility is not.

You might ask the doctor what his second choice of location for the
surgery is.

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TOPIC: Some benefits after returning to U.S.A
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 1:58 pm
From: �b�b�b�

On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 13:02:11 +0000, Dan C wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 09:34:29 +0100, john north wrote:
>
>> An american friend who is just coming up for retirement after working
>> nearly all his life in Japan, is thinking that he will only be allowed
>> to continue working at his present company in Japan if they pay him
>> less than half of what he is currently earning. That reduced money
>> would be a big struggle for him to survive on.
>>
>> He does not think there will be any alternative for him, than to accept
>> this reduced pay. He would like to return to America, but since he did
>> not contribute to any pension schemes, he thinks this would not be
>> possible since he would have no income to survive on there.
>>
>> Coming from Europe myself I guess I automatically have faith that the
>> state will somehow come through for us in straightened circumstances.
>> But do not have any knowledge of what the situation would be in the
>> U.S.A or in fact how to find out exactly what benefits might be
>> available for a returning american citizen.
>>
>> Bearing in mind he has spent nearly all his working life working
>> outside of the U.S.A., and has made no pension contributions, would be
>> grateful to learn of what his circumstances would likely be, income
>> wise in terms of basic benefits; if he just took the plunge and
>> returned to his homeland. Thanks.
>
> Tell him to fuck off and stay in Japan.
>
> Then you fuck off as well.

whats that a Group fuck yeah?? fucking together right? a fuck that fucks
together, fucks together.

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