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TOPIC: OT Good news (from "who will be the first")
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/de4246196f575c10?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 7:34 pm
From: Larry Jaques

On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:35:47 -0500, the infamous Don Foreman
<dforeman@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> scrawled the following:

>Roger that! She'll heed the doc's instructions. I'm more worried that
>she'll discover she likes having me do some tasks that have
>traditionally been hers. <G>

Do them poorly and she won't. <g>

>One thing she definitely won't do is complain.

Newp.

--
STOP THE SLAUGHTER! Boycott Baby Oil!

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TOPIC: WEXFORD Shuts down CUNTER (then stomps on him)
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/fc7e030eba7ff125?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 7:37 pm
From: Gunner Asch

On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 15:42:14 -0600, fox@twat.com wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 10:50:17 -0700 (PDT), Wexford <wryan77@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Apr 15, 8:05�am, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 04:29:41 -0700 (PDT), Kevin Cunningham
>>>
>
>
>
>
>>> Actually..you are forgetting Clinton was REALLY nice to Red China, after
>>> all..he gave them billions of dollars worth of TOP SECRET military
>>> hardware. �And he did set the laws up to make it desireable for many
>>> companies to move their manufacturing in China
>>
>>The Clinton administration never gave any hardware or software to
>>China.
>
>Ouch--that musta hurt him----right in the snatch.

Of course its a lie and easily proven.
>
>>> And he refused to sign NAFTA
>>
>>NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement. It has to do with
>>trade among the US , Canada and Mexico. China isn't a signatory.
>

Yes and?

>WHACKO---another shot to poor Cunters Snout !
>
>>It was the Republicans, led by Nixon, who recognized China and opened
>>the Chinese market to trade. Mao loved Nixon so much that, even after
>>Nixon had resigned, Mao kept in touch with him. When Nixon's daughter,
>>Tricia, was married, Mao sent his private plane to Los Angeles, picked
>>them up, and feted them in China for two weeks.
>

And the Red Army didnt give Clinton money either..right?

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/9/29/25139.shtml

1996 Illegal Campaign Donations

Another factor involved in the November 1996 waiver issued by
then-President Clinton is the fact that illegal money entered the U.S.
elections from the Chinese army. The money was donated to the DNC from a
variety of sources including convicted Chinagate figures John Huang,
Charlie "Yah-Lin" Trie and Johnny Chung.

The 1996 Clinton-Gore campaign readily accepted much of the money from
the Chinese army sources without question, and in some cases took these
donations in cash. The allegations of Chinese espionage and illegal
campaign donations were never investigated properly.

The successful effort by China to obtain U.S. microchip technology
included espionage, sabotage and perhaps bribery. The red intelligence
windfall freed the Chinese army to more accurately target American
cities with atomic weapons using advanced U.S technology.

The legacy that President Clinton left for the 21st century is a modern
Chinese army equipped for global nuclear war.

>OOOOooo--Massive blow below the belt to poor Cunter.

Snicker...like watching a pair of severly retarded individuals trying to
dance with each other.

>
>>Walmart is China's greatest asset. It provided a way for Chinese goods
>>to flow effortlessly to all places in the US, and really created the
>>American market for Chinese-made items. The Waltons are all staunch
>>Republicans who, by the way, benefited tremendously from tax-law re-
>>regulation passed by Bush and the Pug Congress.
>>
>>Virtually every American company doing business in China is headed by
>>a Pug contributer.

Got cites?

And you are claiming that Clinton was a Pug?

Laugh laugh laugh!

Gunner

>
>SLAM !!
>
>Out for the count !
>
>
>>==============================================================
>
>
>OMG! Look at where he borrowed his on-line 'nym from!..
>
>http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/k/hans-hellmut-kirst/forward-gunner-asch.htm

"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 8:21 pm
From: Wexford

On Apr 15, 7:11 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 15, 1:37 am, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om>
> wrote:
>
> > http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTOE63D09120100415?type=usDollarRpt
> > "China's economy began 2010 at a cracking pace, logging surprisingly strong
> > 11.9 percent year-on-year growth in the first quarter ..."
>
> > Dang communists!!
> > Communism will never work, eh, gummer?
> > Can you get a job there?
> > --
> > Cliff
>
> Amazing what a little stimulus will do.
>
> I hope they do well....or otherwise our Chinese banker may want us to
> pay them back sooner.
>
> TMT

I don't thin so. Those Treasury bonds may be their only collateral
when the chinese real estate bubble bursts.

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TOPIC: Karl, what do you think about this kit
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/03393350cf311ee5?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 7:38 pm
From: "RogerN"

"Ignoramus22048" <ignoramus22048@NOSPAM.22048.invalid> wrote in message
news:z9SdnfUinoG_WFrWnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> On 2010-04-16, Karl Townsend <karltownsend.NOT@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>> I spoke to Jon today and it was a great conversation. It was nice to
>>> talk to him after knowing him for so many years. I will bring the mill
>>> home from my friend's warehouse, in 2 weeks, and I am sure that Jon will
>>> hear from me again!
>>
>> Just a thought for you. I'd WAY rather refit at my place. Bet anyone you
>> find feels the same. Its just handy and faster to use your own shop.
>> Everytime you travel it seems something is missing and you have to wait
>> and
>> come back. Wasted time costs money you didn't need to spend.
>
> I feel the same way. But the mill is taller than my garage door and it
> needs to go in tilted. I will weld a special carriage for it starting
> this weekend.
>
> i

Just think of your mill as a heavy lego mindstorm :-)

You can find out how it works and in the process you can learn to add
functionality to it. It will also be a benefit to you when you need to make
a repair also. If you learn the signal from the encoder to the control, and
the command signal from the control to the servo drives, you will be able to
determine what part of the system is not working correctly.

I'm just trying to encourage you to learn to do the retrofit yourself unless
you are pressed for time, such as need to get it running right away for
making money producing parts. The system consists of a motor, amplifier,
control, and position feedback. None of what you need to know is very
difficult, you can get it working 1 step at a time. Get the encoders
working so that when you crank the table you can read the position in the
control. Turn the gain settings way down in the program, connect the
controls signal and get ready on the E-Stop, if it takes off the wrong way
E-stop it and reverse the signal wires. After you get the feedback in the
right direction, and the control signal in the right direction, then you
adjust the gain settings to get a responsive system without oscillation.
Each step has a little more detail than I went into but that's the overview
of the process, it isn't very difficult but is rewarding to know how it
works. "I think you can, I think you can..."

RogerN

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 9:52 pm
From: "Karl Townsend"

>>No, steppers ABSOLUTELY do not meet my needs.
>
> Do they leave a stepped finish, or what? Why the horror/caps?

My bandit was a decent enough mill with servos. Got tired of the whopping
120K program size limit. When i switched to steppers with PC control, I
screwed up several parts. So, I spent nearly 3K on large steppers and large
stepper drives. Still screwed up parts. Keep in mind it only takes a split
second on one move for the rest of the program to be off. All in all this
change cost me thousands and untold wasted time. A servo can go 100% over
power for a split second when it gets behind. There's no way to tell a
stepper - no feedback.

A person making tiny parts at very slow speeds won't have issues. Not what I
do.
>
>
>>I changed my servo Bandit knee
>>mill over to an Ahha control with steppers and was sorry. That was about
>>1995. I strictly scrounge auctions and eBay. Doing this, a commercial
>>control worth 15K can be done for 2K or even less. After doing Ahha, Mach,
>>Centroid, and (very briefly) EMC; I've settled on only Camsoft for my
>>control software.
>
> What did you get with Camsoft that the others didn't have, Karl?

Camsoft is open source. use almost any vendor's hardware. It also uses a
Galil motion card for real time motion control - top of the line. it is also
completely programable. If you have the ability there is nothing it can't
do. The one downside, its not cheap.

>
> LJ, in learning mode.
>
> --
> STOP THE SLAUGHTER! Boycott Baby Oil!

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TOPIC: Battery drill external battery pack
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/2a3b10825de0128f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 7:39 pm
From: Gunner Asch

On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:12:45 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
>Gunner Asch wrote:
>>
>> Yes, after reading your posts for a number of years..Im quite familiar
>> with aussie bullshit.
>
>
> It does have a lingering stench, doesn't it?

Indeed it does. Fortunately..the wind is usually blowing the other way.

But..I do have very fond memories of many I&Is spent in Oz and all the
marvelous women that fucked me nearly out of my mind for free.

Too bad they couldnt get it from their old men..drunk as skunks in a a
pub somewhere.....tsk tsk tsk.

Gunner

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

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TOPIC: Heat/air for small garage/shop
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/21ca08258ce8d2a6?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 7:40 pm
From: Gunner Asch

On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:28:26 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
>Gunner Asch wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 00:15:31 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>> <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Gunner Asch wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Gunner, who lives in the desert and has no AC in his shop. Yet.
>> >
>> >
>> > Don't pull a 'Wylie Coyote' and try cooling it with a block of dry
>> >ice and a big fan. ;-)
>>
>> Crom no! I went to a party last summer where they had put out buckets
>> filled with dry ice..and people were falling down the stairs between
>> the house and the swimming pool all night long because of the fog hiding
>> the stairs.
>
>
> It sounds like they were trying for the group discount on Darwin
>Awards. :(

It was a very COOL effect..but it was semi-formal..and odd sized
invisible concrete steps and high heels didnt seem to mesh very well.

Gunner

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 7:49 pm
From: "Greg O"

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:4BC66CAD.78A12390@earthlink.net...
>
> stryped wrote:
>>
>> This is a system where the air handler, compressor everythign sit
>> outside. I think they are called a "package" system. Basically the
>> whole thing sits outside.
>
>
> They are made for 'Mobile Homes'.
>

They are not specifically for mobile homes. You see them alot in southern
states, on typical framed homes, also they are very simular to commercial
roof top units.
As to the OP. Set it on the ground, and cut a couple holes for supply and
return duct through the wall. as for the $300 price tag, it seems steep to
me. Maybe you can get the seller to make a bit of duct work to get through
the wall for the same price.
Greg

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TOPIC: OT - I think Gunner should run for office on the Teabagger Ticket
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/98af221afb72e333?hl=en
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== 1 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 7:51 pm
From: Too_Many_Tools

Time to shut up Gunner and show us what you can do...

Laugh...laugh...laugh...

TMT

== 2 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 8:07 pm
From: Too_Many_Tools

On Apr 15, 9:56 pm, Klaus Shadenfreude <klausshadenfre...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> [Default] On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:51:20 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
> <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in talk.politics.guns:
>
> >Time to shut up Gunner and show us what you can do...
>
> I'll bet he could find Sunnyside Terrace

LOL..I think Klaus is lonely.

Not getting any at home?

Or is the dog out tonight?

TMT

== 3 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 8:17 pm
From: Nicholas

On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:51:20 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
<too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Time to shut up Gunner and show us what you can do...
>
>Laugh...laugh...laugh...
>
>TMT

As soon as he crosses State Lines for the purpose of creating mayhem,
he will have the Feebs on his ass, like dogs chasing down a fox. IOW,
he'll never be able to go *home* again. They'll be waiting for his
arrival.

== 4 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 8:24 pm
From: Klaus Shadenfreude

[Default] On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:07:48 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
<too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote in talk.politics.guns:

>On Apr 15, 9:56 pm, Klaus Shadenfreude <klausshadenfre...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>> [Default] On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:51:20 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
>> <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in talk.politics.guns:
>>
>> >Time to shut up Gunner and show us what you can do...
>>
>> I'll bet he could find Sunnyside Terrace
>
>LOL..I think Klaus is lonely.

We both know *you're* not visiting anyone... [chuckle]

== 5 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 8:29 pm
From: Klaus Shadenfreude

[Default] On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 22:17:06 -0500, Nicholas
<Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns:

>On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:51:20 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
><too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Time to shut up Gunner and show us what you can do...
>>
>>Laugh...laugh...laugh...
>>
>>TMT
>
>As soon as he crosses State Lines for the purpose of creating mayhem,
>he will have the Feebs on his ass, like dogs chasing down a fox. IOW,
>he'll never be able to go *home* again. They'll be waiting for his
>arrival.

Is that why TMT stayed home instead of carrying out his threats, or is
he just a plain coward?

== 6 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 9:40 pm
From: Gunner Asch

On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 22:17:06 -0500, Nicholas
<Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote:

Mayhem? You do know the definiton of that, do you not?

How about providing it for the other readers so they (and you)
understand the error you just showed your ass on.

Gunner

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

== 7 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 9:45 pm
From: Hawke

On 4/15/2010 7:51 PM, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> Time to shut up Gunner and show us what you can do...
>
> Laugh...laugh...laugh...
>
> TMT

I don't think the teabaggers would consider Gummer to be one of them.
The NY Times conducted a poll on the teabaggers to find out more about
who they are and they found out that the average teabagger is a white
male in his fifties, has a college education, and makes more than 50K a
year. In other words, they're just ordinary republicans but ones that
are running around telling everyone how pissed off they are that Obama
isn't running the country the way they want. Well, boo hoo. I guess I
have to remind them once again. Their side lost the election. They don't
get to have it like they want it when they lose. Somebody needs to break
the news to them that they aren't in the majority any more.

Hawke

== 8 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 9:47 pm
From: Gunner Asch

On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 22:17:06 -0500, Nicholas
<Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote:

Oh..btw...Im curious..whatever would lead you to believe Id be crossing
state lines to "create mayhem", when Ive stated publicly over and over
and over again..that Ill be sitting on my front porch, banjo in hand,
playing happy riffs with each report of a rising body count coming from
the radio?

You that far off of plumb these days?

Blink blink...???

You do know that I live in The Peoples Republik of Kalifornia...right?

We have plenty of leftwingers within this state. Ooodles of them.

Gunner

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

== 9 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 9:51 pm
From: Nicholas

On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 21:40:39 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunnerasch@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 22:17:06 -0500, Nicholas
><Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:51:20 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
>><too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Time to shut up Gunner and show us what you can do...
>>>
>>>Laugh...laugh...laugh...
>>>
>>>TMT
>>
>>As soon as he crosses State Lines for the purpose of creating mayhem,
>>he will have the Feebs on his ass, like dogs chasing down a fox. IOW,
>>he'll never be able to go *home* again. They'll be waiting for his
>>arrival.
>
>Mayhem? You do know the definiton of that, do you not?
>
>How about providing it for the other readers so they (and you)
>understand the error you just showed your ass on.
>
>Gunner

mayhem

Main Entry: may·hem
Pronunciation: \?ma--?hem, ?ma--?m\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English mayme, mahaime, from Anglo-French mahaim
mutilation, mayhem, from maheimer, mahaigner to maim, probably of
Germanic origin; akin to Middle High German meiden gelding, Old Norse
meitha to injure
Date: 15th century

1 a : willful and permanent deprivation of a bodily member resulting
in the impairment of a person's fighting ability b : willful and
permanent crippling, mutilation, or disfigurement of any part of the
body
2 : needless or willful damage or violence

== 10 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 9:52 pm
From: Hawke

>>> Time to shut up Gunner and show us what you can do...
>>>
>>> Laugh...laugh...laugh...
>>>
>>> TMT
>>
>> As soon as he crosses State Lines for the purpose of creating mayhem,
>> he will have the Feebs on his ass, like dogs chasing down a fox. IOW,
>> he'll never be able to go *home* again. They'll be waiting for his
>> arrival.
>
> Is that why TMT stayed home instead of carrying out his threats, or is
> he just a plain coward?

Look you Dodo, don't you get it? Nobody is scared of Gummer. He's a
joke. He's an old man with a heart that has been surgically repaired,
he's made up all kinds of stories about how bad he is but we know they
are just that, stories. So get it through your head. Gummer ain't bad.
He's a lying putz and is lucky to still be breathing. If you are so
stupid to think he's anything but a big mouth you're just as gullible as
a 13 year old girl.

Hawke

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TOPIC: Just a heads up....
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/507d36381a50823d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 9:15 pm
From: "John R. Carroll"

Eregon wrote:
> "John R. Carroll" <nunya@bidness.dev.nul> wrote in news:A-
> ednZG0GvDLXlrWnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@giganews.com:
>
>> http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/32906678/looting_main_street/1
>
> Dumbasses dominate governments at every levels.
>
> It's too bad that those particular dumbasses permitted their
> particular government to get trapped that way but it's not a regional
> issue.
>
> There ARE states that prohibit deficit spending by governmental
> entities. <grin>

I think Alabama is one of them.
I know California is.
Both are in financial trouble, although I'd rather be California.

>
> From the article, it'd seem that the county's dumbasses got a bit too
> ambitious and stayed in office a bit too long...

That's half the story.

--
John R. Carroll

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TOPIC: Flashlights, old style, hundreds of them...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/3480d09a73967956?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 8:50 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)

In <4bc288bb$0$31278$607ed4bc@cv.net>, Existential Angst wrote in part:

>I'm surprised nonLED flashlights are being manufactured/sold at all.

I find them to be common, and to be commonly offered for sale at most
retail establishments where one can buy flashlights, even as of early
2010.

Do keep in mind that some flashlight "brands" have an interest in
battery (or "cell") sales, and may have a profit motive to sell
less-energy-efficient ones.

Also, keep in mind that a flashlight delivering a beam as bright as that
achieved with a PR-2 incandescent lamp is still more expensive to
manufacture with LEDs as opposed to a PR-2 incandescent lamp, especially
when considering the cost of voltage-boost circuitry for a bright white
LED flashlight working well and reliably from 1 or 2 1.5V cells.

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

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TOPIC: OT: [OT] That was funny!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/bae1b5ba237c255b?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 9:09 pm
From: Gunner Asch

On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:25:43 -0700, Larry Jaques
<ljaques@diversify.invalid> wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 20:36:26 -0700, the infamous Gunner Asch
><gunnerasch@gmail.com> scrawled the following:
>
>>Anyone remember...
>>
>>The Angle of the dangle
>>In direct proportion to the heat of the meat
>>Causes the size of the rise
>>And the mass of the ass
>>To remain constant
>>
>>
>>Or...
>>
>>The angle of the dangle is proportional to
>>the heat of the meat,
>>the square of the hair, and
>>the cube of the pube.
>
>I heard
>
>The angle of the dangle is inversely proportionate to the mass of the
>ass and directly proportionate to the heat of the meat and the bulk of
>the balls.
>
>
>
>>And what it was used for?
>
>ah dunno.

Calculations for aimed mortor fire.

The stuff is shot UPWARDs...and it falls downwards.

Mortor rounds are launched by placing a number of bags of "explosives"
on their tail fins..the heat of the meat.. and then launched at a
certain angle.....

I believe your version is the proper one.

http://www.ww2gyrene.org/weapons_m2mortar.htm
http://www.winterwar.com/Weapons/artyinfo.htm#Mortar
http://www.physicsforums.com/archive/index.php/t-293783.html

Its been years since I dropped a round down the tube..and not had a
trigger to pull.

Gunner

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

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TOPIC: Anyone got a Crozier Speed lathe manual?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/692ac0d9feb5fa67?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 9:23 pm
From: Gunner Asch

Ive been working on the various bits and pieces Ive got stuck here and
there..and its now time to fix up the old Crozier speed lathe Ive got.

Its the one with the spindle hole straight through the motor, 2 speed

Anyone got a download of the manual for it that I could get?

I thought the motor was bad..but after removing the bits on both
ends..it spins freely...so I need to figure out what the last owner did
wrong.

Thanks!

Gunner

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TOPIC: OT: Ivy "feet" adhesive removal
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/t/acbc8cde17e4af81?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 9:46 pm
From: Bob Gentry

On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 07:48:49 +0700, J. D. <jdslocomb@invalid.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 12:11:48 -0700, Bob Gentry <rgentry@oz.net> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:00:07 -0600, Lewis Hartswick
>><lhartswick@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>>>> Lewis Hartswick wrote:
>>>>> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>>>>>> You should have bought those little lambs when you had the chance!
>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Boy does that go back a ways. :-)
>>>>> How about the Kid too?
>>>>> ...lew...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mairzy doats and dozy doats and liddle lamzy divey
>>>> A kiddley divey too, wouldn't you?
>>>> Mairzy doats and dozy doats and liddle lamzy divey
>>>> A kiddley divey too, wouldn't you?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Don't think the spelling is quite right but don't ask
>>>me to spell it either. :-)
>>> ...lew...
>>
>>
>>
>>Oh, mares eat oats and does eat oats
>>And little lambs eat ivy
>>A kid'l eat ivy too, wouldn't you?
>>
>>Another showing his age <sigh>
>>
>>
>>rgentry at oz dot net
>
>Actually "mares eat oats and does eat oats"
>
>isn't it?
>
>Cheers,
>
>John D. Slocomb
>(jdslocombatgmail)

Could be <g>

I remember the first time thru sung as spelled by RS above.

Then the middle section

"Now if the words sound queer
and funny to your ear
a little bit jumbled and jivey,
Sing mares eat oats and does eat oats
and little lambs eat ivy.

Than the OH, mareseatoats. . . . . .

But that was a long time ago :-)
rgentry at oz dot net

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TOPIC: What is it? Set 332
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 9:51 pm
From: Mark & Juanita

Rob H. wrote:

> Need some help with the unusual shovel this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

1903 Window awning tool

1904 Gas stove burner

1905 Tie hanger

1906 Looks like a pooper scooper

1907 Chicken houses

1908 Looks like some kind of message holder

There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage

Rob Leatham

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TOPIC: Homophobes, racists or morons
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 15 2010 9:58 pm
From: Hawke

On 4/15/2010 3:53 AM, RogerN wrote:
> "Too_Many_Tools"<too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:132b3420-5103-401c-97ae-e6e0278eca26@u37g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 14, 8:28 pm, "RogerN"<re...@midwest.net> wrote:
>> Cliff, you forgot to post this:
>>
>> Tea Party supporters are wealthier and more well-educated than the general
>> public, and are no more or less afraid of falling into a lower
>> socioeconomic
>> class, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/15/us/politics/15poll.html
>>
>> RogerN
>>
>> "Cliff"<Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
>>
>> news:3158s55dcv722evt7lno3emjjuisrqvj2l@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> http://news.bostonherald.com/news/politics/view/20100413party_foes_pl...
>>> "Party foes plot vs. 'racists, morons'"
>>> [
>>> Tea Party foes, bent on making the conservative group's members appear
>>> to
>>> be
>>> "homophobes, racists or morons," say they'll be crashing Tea Party
>>> demonstrations nationwide this week.
>>
>>> It's unclear if anyone associated with crashtheteaparty.org will crash
>>> tomorrow's rally on Boston Common. Founder Jason Levin couldn't be
>>> reached
>>> yesterday and was reportedly traveling.
>>> ....
>>> ]
>>
>>> http://crashtheteaparty.org/- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
> /
> /LOL...and they have been known to lie too.
> /
> /The Teabaggers I know are poorly educated and of a lower economic
> /status.
> /
> /TMT
> /
>
> I'm sure that you're right and New York Times/CBS News poll is wrong.
>
> I notice you like to post stuff with evil (Liberals) triumphing over good
> (Conservatives) and act like it's really something significant when it's
> just fulfillment, or setting the stage for fulfillment of Bible prophecy.
>
> I found this for you:
> According to biblical prophecy this age will not end with the triumph of
> Christianity and the nations turning to the Lord, but with the world rule of
> one known as the Beast or the Antichrist (Revelation 13.5-7) and a brief
> time of such great tribulation that if God did not cut short these days no
> flesh would be saved (Matthew 24.22) (i.e. no one would survive).
>
> Prophecies concerning this subject are found mainly in the books of Daniel
> and Revelation. In Revelation 13.1 John saw a beast coming out of the sea.
> Daniel 7 also describes four great beasts that come up from the Great Sea,
> which is being stirred up by the wind. Isaiah 57.20 gives us one clue as to
> what is meant by this:
>
> But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose
> waters cast up mire and dirt. There is no peace, says my God to the wicked.
>
> In other words the troubled sea represents humanity in rebellion against
> God, out of whom the antichrist will emerge. The Great Sea also speaks of
> the Mediterranean area which was part of all the four world empires
> described by Daniel. In Daniel 7 the antichrist is described as the little
> horn who arises out of the fourth beast (Rome) and speaks great things
> (blasphemies). Power is given him by 10 kings and he persecutes the saints
> for a time, times and half a time (3ï¿½ years). He is destroyed by the Lord
> and given to the burning flame (hell).
>
> http://www.lightforthelastdays.co.uk/view_page.asp?page_id=193&menu_id=223
>
>
>
> RogerN
>

Can you give us some examples of things that were prophesied in the
Bible that have actually come true? I know you can give us all kinds of
prophesies of things that are supposedly going to happen some day. But
how about giving us some examples where they made prophesies and they
actually came to pass. I think this will stump you as I know of no
prophesy that has actually come true.

Hawke

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